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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:00:40 PM #301: |
EmDubyaSee posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight New page --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 11/07/17 11:00:41 PM #302: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight Was this filmed right after Reid died? Because he seems pretty depressed. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 11/07/17 11:01:23 PM #303: |
Shame AJ won the title a week after the WON HoF ballets were due. That would have really helped his case.
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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:06:04 PM #304: |
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Shame AJ won the title a week after the WON HoF ballets were due. That would have really helped his case. He's absolutely getting in someday now. He 100% locked it up with his ME time in New Japan --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 11/07/17 11:06:59 PM #305: |
EmDubyaSee posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...Jakyl25 posted...Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight I feel like we can let it go. The real reason Rogers was recognized as the first WWWF Champion works well enough in kayfabe as it does reality --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 11/07/17 11:07:39 PM #306: |
Oh, I'd have voted for him without a second thought if I had a ballot already, but yeah, this probably locks it up for folks that were on the fence. That was pretty much my point.
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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:09:32 PM #307: |
Jakyl25 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...EmDubyaSee posted...Jakyl25 posted...Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight I let it go. I just was listening to them say that and thinking "I wonder who had a worse aneurism, Big Dave or JaKyL...." so I'm glad it didn't mess with you. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 11/07/17 11:12:51 PM #308: |
I dont think Dave cares what they claim about World Titles. Hes not very much of a kayfabe statistician
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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:14:12 PM #309: |
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Oh, I'd have voted for him without a second thought if I had a ballot already, but yeah, this probably locks it up for folks that were on the fence. That was pretty much my point. I don't mean to sound callous here... but I feel if anyone was still on the fence they probably shouldn't get a vote.... He has an argument as best in ring ever. If Am Drag wasn't around he'd be unquestionably the best in ring in this current generation. I understand people being hesitant to put him in just on good ring work and TNA, but once he ME New Japan... what more could you want from someone he had already ticked all the boxes and there really shouldn't have been anymore "maybes" To me he is now a no brainer. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 11/07/17 11:27:14 PM #310: |
There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape.
AJ might be the exception because of his time in Japan. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:37:44 PM #311: |
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There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape. I don't think you should punish the wrestlers because Vince is a fucking idiot who continued pushing Cena too much at the end, and pushed Roman AT ALL (killing the territory) when both Punk and Am Drag got absolutely white fucking hot, and both Seth and Dean got magma hot at various times.... even fucking Dolph was over like a mother fucker somehow. The wrestlers didn't put this in a death spiral. But I would say (except AJ) that there is no one who recently joined this company who should get in right now except Punk or Am Drag (for other stuff as well, like AJ) because no one was able to drag it out of it either. --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 11/07/17 11:47:30 PM #312: |
Daves personal votes
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EmDubyaSee 11/07/17 11:52:22 PM #313: |
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Daves personal votes Jerry, right? Surely he's not putting fucking Double J in the god damn hall of fame. Also, didn't Crocket Jr. kill the company and lead to the destruction of everything else in the country except WCW and WWF? --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 11/07/17 11:53:16 PM #314: |
Eddv posted...
There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape. The argument is that his in-ring excellence should qualify him by itself. Remember, you have to be a great in-ring worker, a big draw, and have some significant positive influence on the industry OR be exceptional in one or two of those three areas. In my opinion, AJ, as one of the all-time greatest workers, should be in based only on that. Also, Dave should be ashamed of himself for not voting for CIMA and Akiyama. --- http://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 11/07/17 11:55:10 PM #315: |
Yes Jerry. Jeff wouldnt be a non-wrestler
Crockett Jr killing anything is WWE revisionist history. He was the only regional promoter to stand up to Vince enough to survive. He just couldnt keep up the arms race so he had to sell to Turner. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 11/08/17 12:14:48 AM #316: |
I think if this current era proved anything its that being a great in ring worker amounts to a hill of beans if the rest of the package isn't moving in the right direction.
The current crop of guys is probably the best set of athletes they have ever had and it just doesn't seem to matter. AJ MIGHT be the exception but were I to have a vote I would not be using it on Bryan or Punk. Styles, maybe who knows, but if i had to vote for him OVER instead of in ADDITION to say Suzuki or Ultimo or LA Park, I wouldn't. Alongside them is a little easier to swallow. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NBIceman 11/08/17 12:19:36 AM #317: |
Eddv posted...
I think if this current era proved anything its that being a great in ring worker amounts to a hill of beans if the rest of the package isn't moving in the right direction. For the purposes of individual wrestling companies, sure, that's probably true. But as far as the WON Hall of Fame is concerned, you can be one of the greatest workers of all time and get in even if you went so far as to actively detract from business. It's not the WON Drawing Hall of Fame. --- http://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif Spurs - Yankees - Eagles - Golden Knights ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 11/08/17 12:34:00 AM #318: |
Jesus Christ they really just jobbed Tyler Bate clean to Enzo Amore.
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StealThisSheen 11/08/17 12:46:30 AM #319: |
TheRock1525 posted...
Jesus Christ they really just jobbed Tyler Bate clean to Enzo Amore. Only one British guy can win at a time, duh --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeroSignal620 11/08/17 2:58:20 AM #320: |
So now with one week of shows remaining...
SvS Styles vs Lesnar Angle/BRAUN/Joe/Balor/Jordan vs Shane/Orton/Roode/Nakamura/????? Fox/Asuka/Banks/Nia/????? vs Becky/Charlotte/Tamina/Carmella/Naomi Bliss vs Natalya Usos vs Sheamus/Cesaro Miz vs Corbin Enzo vs Kalisto Something tells me Sin Cara wins the US title next week and gives us Miz/Cara at SvS. The 5th spot for team SD will probably be determined in a battle royal which might be won by either Rusev or Jinder. Finally, the last match to get added to the card will probably be Shield vs New Day. --- Formerly known as Raven 2 http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal620.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 11/08/17 7:39:08 AM #321: |
It would be awful to waste all of this Corbin Miz heat to make it Miz vs Sin Cara..
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PrivateBiscuit1 11/08/17 7:52:33 AM #322: |
I am 100% okay with Sin Cara beating Baron Corbin, because Corbin is the most milquetoast big guy wrestler. I struggle to find anything interesting about him at all.
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eaedwards6400 11/08/17 8:10:16 AM #323: |
You don't care at all about the feud Corbin and Miz have been building for themselves (because WWE sure as hell isn't going to do it apparently.) It's gotten pretty heated lol
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EmDubyaSee 11/08/17 10:10:20 AM #324: |
Cena is in Team Smackdown.
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 11:00:23 AM #325: |
I guess they dont need a guest ref now that AJ is in the match instead of Jinder
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voltch 11/08/17 11:34:29 AM #326: |
Pshhh meltz on crack.
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Hardcore_Adult 11/08/17 1:48:24 PM #327: |
Looking for a Good Meltzer CAW for either No Mercy or DOR I can use as squash fodder...
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PrivateBiscuit1 11/08/17 2:51:15 PM #328: |
EmDubyaSee posted...
Cena is in Team Smackdown. Wait, what? Shane loses Cena's exclusivity, Cena wrestles on Raw for the last couple months he was around, and then they take him back like that? What the hell? --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 11/08/17 2:58:47 PM #329: |
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...Cena is in Team Smackdown. ...Why wouldn't they? It'd be like Cleveland going "No, Lebron, we DON'T want you back" after he was with the Heat Except it's not even like that because Cena technically didn't leave-leave. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hardcore_Adult 11/08/17 3:03:18 PM #330: |
Duck and cover! He said the 'L' word!
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PrivateBiscuit1 11/08/17 3:05:23 PM #331: |
They wouldn't because they keep talking about how this is Smackdown vs Raw non-stop and about brand loyalty and Kurt Angle needing people he can trust. So what sense does it make bringing in a guy who has no brand affiliation to be on in a match that's specifically about one brand versus another?
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HashtagSEP 11/08/17 3:09:08 PM #332: |
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They wouldn't because they keep talking about how this is Smackdown vs Raw non-stop and about brand loyalty and Kurt Angle needing people he can trust. So what sense does it make bringing in a guy who has no brand affiliation to be on in a match that's specifically about one brand versus another? ...Because he's a free agent and that's literally how free agents work? Cena having no loyalty = Cena's going to wherever pays him to Why would Shane go "No, we don't want him?" Sure, one could argue that makes it possible for Cena to betray if Raw pays him more, but 1. That's not likely with Cena like it would be with somebody like Owens or Lesnar if they were the "free agent," and 2. You'd still take the chance because... C'mon, it's Cena. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nameless2000 11/08/17 3:14:17 PM #333: |
Cena will probably talk about how SD brought out the best of him or something and that's why he chose to wrestle for Shane.
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HashtagSEP 11/08/17 3:18:32 PM #334: |
Pretty much
All the "loyalty" and "people you can trust" things mean is "Don't pick Miz who may walk out on you if things don't go his way," or "Don't pick Owens who may betray you just for funsies." It doesn't mean "Don't take the best available wrestler in the company who happens to be a free agent" --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RaidenZeroX 11/08/17 5:18:37 PM #335: |
http://www.wrestleview.com/wwe-news/93187-kevin-owens-sami-zayn-sent-home-wwe/
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 5:30:11 PM #336: |
Dave says its true that they were sent home, but hes still looking into verifying why
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Whiskey_Nick 11/08/17 6:18:45 PM #337: |
Disciplinary for conduct detrimental to the company.
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ZeroSignal620 11/08/17 6:21:40 PM #338: |
Still calling it that they screw over Team SD in the 5v5 match.
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EmDubyaSee 11/08/17 7:06:58 PM #339: |
ONly way it could more obviously be a work was is if they flipped Shane off on the way out....
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:08:36 PM #340: |
That would be a kinda awful work since it takes away two popular stars from people who paid to see them
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FFDragon 11/08/17 7:10:52 PM #341: |
*Card Subject to Change
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:11:27 PM #342: |
Well sure but I mean ethically
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FFDragon 11/08/17 7:12:09 PM #343: |
of all the things you can call vincent kennedy mcmahon, ethical is definitely not one of them
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:13:06 PM #344: |
Im bi- a lot of things, but lingual isnt one of them.
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EmDubyaSee 11/08/17 7:15:06 PM #345: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Well sure but I mean ethically The Voodoo Kin Mafia was the more ethical of the 2 VKM's.... But sure, why not, ethically it would be wrong and Vince is all about doing the right thing for the fans... --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScareChan 11/08/17 7:19:08 PM #346: |
So is it one of those things where since they are both heels they can just pal around openly now
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:20:49 PM #347: |
It sounds more like they said something on the mic that wasnt scripted for them that irked Vince enough to edit it off SD and send them home
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ScareChan 11/08/17 7:22:36 PM #348: |
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:26:14 PM #349: |
The only thing anyone has said that they thought might be bad in Vinces crazy head is they called themselves men of honor, and as seen a few weeks ago, Vince is a bit high strung about things related to brands that end in of honor.
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Jakyl25 11/08/17 7:29:23 PM #350: |
And I suppose you could say that if they went off script to say that that they probably MEANT it a wink wink nudge nudge way, to be fair.
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