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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:00:40 PM
#301:


EmDubyaSee posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight


How do you feel about them saying this is the first time the WWE Championship ever was won in not North America when in kafabe.... it was originally won the very first time in tournant in Brazil?


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Eddv
11/07/17 11:00:41 PM
#302:


Jakyl25 posted...
Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight


Was this filmed right after Reid died?

Because he seems pretty depressed.
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NBIceman
11/07/17 11:01:23 PM
#303:


Shame AJ won the title a week after the WON HoF ballets were due. That would have really helped his case.
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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:06:04 PM
#304:


NBIceman posted...
Shame AJ won the title a week after the WON HoF ballets were due. That would have really helped his case.


He's absolutely getting in someday now. He 100% locked it up with his ME time in New Japan
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Jakyl25
11/07/17 11:06:59 PM
#305:


EmDubyaSee posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight


How do you feel about them saying this is the first time the WWE Championship ever was won in not North America when in kafabe.... it was originally won the very first time in tournant in Brazil?


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I feel like we can let it go. The real reason Rogers was recognized as the first WWWF Champion works well enough in kayfabe as it does reality
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NBIceman
11/07/17 11:07:39 PM
#306:


Oh, I'd have voted for him without a second thought if I had a ballot already, but yeah, this probably locks it up for folks that were on the fence. That was pretty much my point.
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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:09:32 PM
#307:


Jakyl25 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Speaking of Flair, his 30 For 30 documentary aired tonight


How do you feel about them saying this is the first time the WWE Championship ever was won in not North America when in kafabe.... it was originally won the very first time in tournant in Brazil?


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I feel like we can let it go. The real reason Rogers was recognized as the first WWWF Champion works well enough in kayfabe as it does reality


I let it go. I just was listening to them say that and thinking "I wonder who had a worse aneurism, Big Dave or JaKyL...." so I'm glad it didn't mess with you.
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Jakyl25
11/07/17 11:12:51 PM
#308:


I dont think Dave cares what they claim about World Titles. Hes not very much of a kayfabe statistician
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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:14:12 PM
#309:


NBIceman posted...
Oh, I'd have voted for him without a second thought if I had a ballot already, but yeah, this probably locks it up for folks that were on the fence. That was pretty much my point.


I don't mean to sound callous here... but I feel if anyone was still on the fence they probably shouldn't get a vote....

He has an argument as best in ring ever. If Am Drag wasn't around he'd be unquestionably the best in ring in this current generation. I understand people being hesitant to put him in just on good ring work and TNA, but once he ME New Japan... what more could you want from someone he had already ticked all the boxes and there really shouldn't have been anymore "maybes" To me he is now a no brainer.
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Eddv
11/07/17 11:27:14 PM
#310:


There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape.

AJ might be the exception because of his time in Japan.
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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:37:44 PM
#311:


Eddv posted...
There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape.

AJ might be the exception because of his time in Japan.


I don't think you should punish the wrestlers because Vince is a fucking idiot who continued pushing Cena too much at the end, and pushed Roman AT ALL (killing the territory) when both Punk and Am Drag got absolutely white fucking hot, and both Seth and Dean got magma hot at various times.... even fucking Dolph was over like a mother fucker somehow.

The wrestlers didn't put this in a death spiral.

But I would say (except AJ) that there is no one who recently joined this company who should get in right now except Punk or Am Drag (for other stuff as well, like AJ) because no one was able to drag it out of it either.
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Jakyl25
11/07/17 11:47:30 PM
#312:


Daves personal votes


"In the non-wrestler category Ive got five votes, so Im going with Brown, Crockett Sr., Crockett Jr, Gary Hart and Jarrett. Its not meant as a slight to anyone else.

For wrestlers, my first round of picks are Pedro Morales, Bearcat Wright, Edge, A.J. Styles, The Sharpe Brothers, Minoru Suzuki, Kiyoshi Tamura, Ultimo Guerrero, Karloff Lagarde, L.A. Park and Los Misioneros, which makes 11. The final cut is hard, but I guess its Tamura for this year."

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EmDubyaSee
11/07/17 11:52:22 PM
#313:


Jakyl25 posted...
Daves personal votes


"In the non-wrestler category Ive got five votes, so Im going with Brown, Crockett Sr., Crockett Jr, Gary Hart and Jarrett. Its not meant as a slight to anyone else.

For wrestlers, my first round of picks are Pedro Morales, Bearcat Wright, Edge, A.J. Styles, The Sharpe Brothers, Minoru Suzuki, Kiyoshi Tamura, Ultimo Guerrero, Karloff Lagarde, L.A. Park and Los Misioneros, which makes 11. The final cut is hard, but I guess its Tamura for this year."


Jerry, right?

Surely he's not putting fucking Double J in the god damn hall of fame.

Also, didn't Crocket Jr. kill the company and lead to the destruction of everything else in the country except WCW and WWF?
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NBIceman
11/07/17 11:53:16 PM
#314:


Eddv posted...
There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape.

AJ might be the exception because of his time in Japan.

The argument is that his in-ring excellence should qualify him by itself.

Remember, you have to be a great in-ring worker, a big draw, and have some significant positive influence on the industry OR be exceptional in one or two of those three areas. In my opinion, AJ, as one of the all-time greatest workers, should be in based only on that.

Also, Dave should be ashamed of himself for not voting for CIMA and Akiyama.
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Jakyl25
11/07/17 11:55:10 PM
#315:


Yes Jerry. Jeff wouldnt be a non-wrestler

Crockett Jr killing anything is WWE revisionist history. He was the only regional promoter to stand up to Vince enough to survive. He just couldnt keep up the arms race so he had to sell to Turner.
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Eddv
11/08/17 12:14:48 AM
#316:


I think if this current era proved anything its that being a great in ring worker amounts to a hill of beans if the rest of the package isn't moving in the right direction.

The current crop of guys is probably the best set of athletes they have ever had and it just doesn't seem to matter.

AJ MIGHT be the exception but were I to have a vote I would not be using it on Bryan or Punk.

Styles, maybe who knows, but if i had to vote for him OVER instead of in ADDITION to say Suzuki or Ultimo or LA Park, I wouldn't. Alongside them is a little easier to swallow.
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NBIceman
11/08/17 12:19:36 AM
#317:


Eddv posted...
I think if this current era proved anything its that being a great in ring worker amounts to a hill of beans if the rest of the package isn't moving in the right direction.

The current crop of guys is probably the best set of athletes they have ever had and it just doesn't seem to matter.


AJ MIGHT be the exception but were I to have a vote I would not be using it on Bryan or Punk.

Styles, maybe who knows, but if i had to vote for him OVER instead of in ADDITION to say Suzuki or Ultimo or LA Park, I wouldn't. Alongside them is a little easier to swallow.

For the purposes of individual wrestling companies, sure, that's probably true.

But as far as the WON Hall of Fame is concerned, you can be one of the greatest workers of all time and get in even if you went so far as to actively detract from business. It's not the WON Drawing Hall of Fame.
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TheRock1525
11/08/17 12:34:00 AM
#318:


Jesus Christ they really just jobbed Tyler Bate clean to Enzo Amore.
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StealThisSheen
11/08/17 12:46:30 AM
#319:


TheRock1525 posted...
Jesus Christ they really just jobbed Tyler Bate clean to Enzo Amore.


Only one British guy can win at a time, duh
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ZeroSignal620
11/08/17 2:58:20 AM
#320:


So now with one week of shows remaining...

SvS
Styles vs Lesnar
Angle/BRAUN/Joe/Balor/Jordan vs Shane/Orton/Roode/Nakamura/?????
Fox/Asuka/Banks/Nia/????? vs Becky/Charlotte/Tamina/Carmella/Naomi
Bliss vs Natalya
Usos vs Sheamus/Cesaro
Miz vs Corbin
Enzo vs Kalisto

Something tells me Sin Cara wins the US title next week and gives us Miz/Cara at SvS. The 5th spot for team SD will probably be determined in a battle royal which might be won by either Rusev or Jinder. Finally, the last match to get added to the card will probably be Shield vs New Day.
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eaedwards6400
11/08/17 7:39:08 AM
#321:


It would be awful to waste all of this Corbin Miz heat to make it Miz vs Sin Cara..
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/08/17 7:52:33 AM
#322:


I am 100% okay with Sin Cara beating Baron Corbin, because Corbin is the most milquetoast big guy wrestler. I struggle to find anything interesting about him at all.

And I think Sin Cara just needs to ditch the mask. If he became Hunico, I don't think anyone would mind. Do they even sell Sin Cara masks anymore?
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eaedwards6400
11/08/17 8:10:16 AM
#323:


You don't care at all about the feud Corbin and Miz have been building for themselves (because WWE sure as hell isn't going to do it apparently.) It's gotten pretty heated lol
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EmDubyaSee
11/08/17 10:10:20 AM
#324:


Cena is in Team Smackdown.

So who the hell is the ref gonna be then?
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 11:00:23 AM
#325:


I guess they dont need a guest ref now that AJ is in the match instead of Jinder
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voltch
11/08/17 11:34:29 AM
#326:


Pshhh meltz on crack.

Tamura and volk han over suzuki
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Hardcore_Adult
11/08/17 1:48:24 PM
#327:


Looking for a Good Meltzer CAW for either No Mercy or DOR I can use as squash fodder...
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/08/17 2:51:15 PM
#328:


EmDubyaSee posted...
Cena is in Team Smackdown.

So who the hell is the ref gonna be then?

Wait, what?

Shane loses Cena's exclusivity, Cena wrestles on Raw for the last couple months he was around, and then they take him back like that? What the hell?
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HashtagSEP
11/08/17 2:58:47 PM
#329:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Cena is in Team Smackdown.

So who the hell is the ref gonna be then?

Wait, what?

Shane loses Cena's exclusivity, Cena wrestles on Raw for the last couple months he was around, and then they take him back like that? What the hell?


...Why wouldn't they?

It'd be like Cleveland going "No, Lebron, we DON'T want you back" after he was with the Heat

Except it's not even like that because Cena technically didn't leave-leave.
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Hardcore_Adult
11/08/17 3:03:18 PM
#330:


Duck and cover! He said the 'L' word!
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/08/17 3:05:23 PM
#331:


They wouldn't because they keep talking about how this is Smackdown vs Raw non-stop and about brand loyalty and Kurt Angle needing people he can trust. So what sense does it make bringing in a guy who has no brand affiliation to be on in a match that's specifically about one brand versus another?
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HashtagSEP
11/08/17 3:09:08 PM
#332:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
They wouldn't because they keep talking about how this is Smackdown vs Raw non-stop and about brand loyalty and Kurt Angle needing people he can trust. So what sense does it make bringing in a guy who has no brand affiliation to be on in a match that's specifically about one brand versus another?


...Because he's a free agent and that's literally how free agents work?

Cena having no loyalty = Cena's going to wherever pays him to

Why would Shane go "No, we don't want him?"

Sure, one could argue that makes it possible for Cena to betray if Raw pays him more, but 1. That's not likely with Cena like it would be with somebody like Owens or Lesnar if they were the "free agent," and 2. You'd still take the chance because... C'mon, it's Cena.
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Nameless2000
11/08/17 3:14:17 PM
#333:


Cena will probably talk about how SD brought out the best of him or something and that's why he chose to wrestle for Shane.
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HashtagSEP
11/08/17 3:18:32 PM
#334:


Pretty much

All the "loyalty" and "people you can trust" things mean is "Don't pick Miz who may walk out on you if things don't go his way," or "Don't pick Owens who may betray you just for funsies."

It doesn't mean "Don't take the best available wrestler in the company who happens to be a free agent"
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RaidenZeroX
11/08/17 5:18:37 PM
#335:


http://www.wrestleview.com/wwe-news/93187-kevin-owens-sami-zayn-sent-home-wwe/

Well that's disappointing if it's true.
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 5:30:11 PM
#336:


Dave says its true that they were sent home, but hes still looking into verifying why

Behave, guys!
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Whiskey_Nick
11/08/17 6:18:45 PM
#337:


Disciplinary for conduct detrimental to the company.

Apparently they went into business for themselves.

Sounds like a storyline
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ZeroSignal620
11/08/17 6:21:40 PM
#338:


Still calling it that they screw over Team SD in the 5v5 match.
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EmDubyaSee
11/08/17 7:06:58 PM
#339:


ONly way it could more obviously be a work was is if they flipped Shane off on the way out....
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:08:36 PM
#340:


That would be a kinda awful work since it takes away two popular stars from people who paid to see them
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FFDragon
11/08/17 7:10:52 PM
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:11:27 PM
#342:


Well sure but I mean ethically
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FFDragon
11/08/17 7:12:09 PM
#343:


of all the things you can call vincent kennedy mcmahon, ethical is definitely not one of them
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:13:06 PM
#344:


Im bi- a lot of things, but lingual isnt one of them.
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EmDubyaSee
11/08/17 7:15:06 PM
#345:


Jakyl25 posted...
Well sure but I mean ethically


The Voodoo Kin Mafia was the more ethical of the 2 VKM's....

But sure, why not, ethically it would be wrong and Vince is all about doing the right thing for the fans...
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ScareChan
11/08/17 7:19:08 PM
#346:


So is it one of those things where since they are both heels they can just pal around openly now
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:20:49 PM
#347:


It sounds more like they said something on the mic that wasnt scripted for them that irked Vince enough to edit it off SD and send them home
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ScareChan
11/08/17 7:22:36 PM
#348:


How have there not been any comments from those live then?
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:26:14 PM
#349:


The only thing anyone has said that they thought might be bad in Vinces crazy head is they called themselves men of honor, and as seen a few weeks ago, Vince is a bit high strung about things related to brands that end in of honor.
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Jakyl25
11/08/17 7:29:23 PM
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And I suppose you could say that if they went off script to say that that they probably MEANT it a wink wink nudge nudge way, to be fair.
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