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LIsJustice 10/30/17 5:43:43 PM #1: |
https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/30/16571230/last-of-us-part-2-trailer-violence-women
lol polygon what'd you expect? --- Bethesda is the best western publisher this gen by far. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/30/17 5:48:26 PM #3: |
so women are magical creatures that can never be attacked in a war?
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Darmik 10/30/17 5:50:01 PM #4: |
A trailer is a pitch to its audience of what to expect from the full game. In the past, Naughty Dogs trailers have captured a particular mood or suggested a compelling relationship. But here, the promise is almost exclusively gore. There's an argument to be made that the trailer raises an enticing question Why are these women being attacked? but that mystery is both too familiar and too broad. Tbh I actually agree with this. Trying to make it about violence against women dilutes that point though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 10/30/17 5:50:43 PM #5: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
if the victims in the trailer were men this article would not exist, even though it would be contentwise the exact same thing Pretty much. The entire thing is "NO VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN!" My favorite part is when she acknowledges a woman is the one doing the violence then hand waives it trying to make a comment about ND having no female writers or some shit. Truly awful "journalism" --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lonestar2000 10/30/17 5:51:44 PM #6: |
Who gives a fuck what that shitrag thinks?
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darkprince45 10/30/17 5:52:12 PM #7: |
God so dumb
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Esrac 10/30/17 5:52:12 PM #8: |
Did I read that right? Did she actually write that the violence in the trailer for the first TLoU was okay because it wasn't committed against women or marginalized people?
I don't know why she bothers to bring up the UN statistic, as if that should reinforce the idea that depictions of violence against women in media should be off limits or more restrained compared to violence against white men? Whatever, man. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 10/30/17 5:53:40 PM #9: |
>Post apocalyptic world
>barely any humans remain "OMG THEY'RE HURTING WOMEN AND MINORITIES" Yes because thats the biggest issue in that world, minorities and women. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 5:54:50 PM #10: |
yeah fuck women, right guys? I, for one, love seeing senseless violence against them. Seeing four minutes of it in super hd was so fun and Im stoked to play the game for it. I love that I know nothing about whats going on except that females are getting tortured on my screen. Thats incredibly appealing to me too and polygon should be ashamed for daring to say anything else.
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Freddie_Mercury 10/30/17 5:55:25 PM #11: |
CE whines about Polygon whining about TLOU2's violence
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chill02 10/30/17 5:57:10 PM #12: |
is this satire
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ArtVandelay 10/30/17 5:57:19 PM #13: |
except we do know what's going on. the torturers are convinced the infected are demons, and are likely also convinced the victims have something to do with it.
it was cryptic as fuck and I'm highly intrigued to find out more. I'd say it was a successful trailer. I'm also not a precious little snowflake SJW, so of course I wasn't offended. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperGamer5 10/30/17 5:57:29 PM #14: |
Cookie Bag posted...
>Post apocalyptic world And if they weren't women and minorities, the article would be complaining that the game was full of white males. I wish I hadn't given a click to that article. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 10/30/17 5:57:43 PM #15: |
Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider?
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ArtVandelay 10/30/17 5:59:12 PM #16: |
specialkid8 posted...
Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider? no. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 5:59:33 PM #17: |
specialkid8 posted...
Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider? ...and people had a problem with that too. this is a pretty blanket thing. No one is going after naughty dog trying to take down their game on some personal vendetta. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperGamer5 10/30/17 5:59:52 PM #18: |
CookieMarvin posted...
specialkid8 posted...Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider? please shut the fuck up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:00:05 PM #19: |
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Zikten 10/30/17 6:00:59 PM #20: |
cookiemarvin is some kind of SJW who thinks women aren't allowed to be attacked in fiction. even when they win and beat the bad guys, its still somehow wrong to show on the screen. I don't get it
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UnfairRepresent 10/30/17 6:01:54 PM #21: |
specialkid8 posted...
Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider? That never happened. It was blown crazy out of proportion. The guy wasn't trying to rape Lara, he was trying to murder her. However it does say something funny about society that "Oh he was just murdering her, not raping her." means it is okay. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/30/17 6:02:53 PM #22: |
Polygon criticizing violence in video game trailers isn't anything new
https://www.polygon.com/2014/7/15/5899161/violent-video-games-assassins-creed --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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50Blessings 10/30/17 6:03:05 PM #23: |
Reminder that the EIC of Polygon thought he deleted his own Breath of the Wild save and was so mad that Nintendo didn't make it idiot proof that he said it was no longer a contender for GOTY.
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:05:24 PM #24: |
50Blessings posted...
Reminder that the EIC of Polygon thought he deleted his own Breath of the Wild save and was so mad that Nintendo didn't make it idiot proof that he said it was no longer a contender for GOTY. now that was stupid though, it was his friend that deleted it iirc --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/30/17 6:09:05 PM #25: |
50Blessings posted...
Reminder that the EIC of Polygon thought he deleted his own Breath of the Wild save and was so mad that Nintendo didn't make it idiot proof that he said it was no longer a contender for GOTY. To be fair he has a point. Most games have auto-saves and are aware of gamebreaking bugs. Skyrim has like 5 different auto-saves at once and that was last gen. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 10/30/17 6:09:12 PM #26: |
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ArtVandelay 10/30/17 6:09:50 PM #27: |
Vyrulisse posted...
Never forget: this one is the best lol --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/30/17 6:10:05 PM #28: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
50Blessings posted...Reminder that the EIC of Polygon thought he deleted his own Breath of the Wild save and was so mad that Nintendo didn't make it idiot proof that he said it was no longer a contender for GOTY. Breath of the Wild has 10 different auto-saves IIRC The problem was his friend started a Master Mode game which starts a whole new set of saves. Which gave him the impression his saves were deleted. They weren't. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 10/30/17 6:14:13 PM #30: |
Cookie Bag posted...
>Post apocalyptic world It's like Resident Evil V all over again. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArtVandelay 10/30/17 6:19:46 PM #31: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
i do remember when Carl was literally almost raped in The Walking Dead though, and no SJW snowflakes even batted an eyelash Rick going HAM and fucking those guys up is probably my fav moment in the show. it was so brutal. --- Vandelay Industries Importing & Exporting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fire810 10/30/17 6:20:24 PM #32: |
The gruesome imagery Naughty Dog manages to cram into a five-minute trailer for The Last of Us Part 2 is physically uncomfortable to sit through.
good, it was supposed to be "I don't like it therefor it shouldn't exist" --- "This weapon, I am." - Paul Atreides ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:21:58 PM #33: |
creativerealms posted...
Cookie Bag posted...>Post apocalyptic world I do want to make sure that everyone knows that those video game worlds are figments of our imaginations, and are not real. The real problems that we face in our real world, however, bleed into our media and reflect our actual positions. In their world, sure, targeted violence against minorities and women might not be their biggest worry, but that world isnt real and this video game trailer showed something that is a problematic for actual people. So it might seem crazy that people are upset about women being brutalized in a post-apocalyptic video game, but thats because its not real and someone made it up just to try and sell you a product. Its totally meaningless and unnecessary. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/30/17 6:24:00 PM #35: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
specialkid8 posted...Remember when Lara Croft was Literally Raped in Tomb Raider? I think the thing that raises an interesting sort of point here is that we're not going to get a random trailer of that with nothing else for TWD. A trailer like this seems pretty unique to video games. They can advertise their games however they like. But I do think a random 4 minute cutscene that seems to only really highlight the visuals and/or violence is an odd decision. I'm not really sure what there's supposed to be in this trailer that's meant to make me want to play the game. It's not even violence occurring during gameplay. It's just a cutscene. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 10/30/17 6:29:15 PM #36: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
if the victims in the trailer were men this article would not exist, even though it would be contentwise the exact same thing Yep --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:31:00 PM #37: |
E32005 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...if the victims in the trailer were men this article would not exist, even though it would be contentwise the exact same thing are you guys actually stumbling upon the problem here or do you think this is a valid criticism of the complaints --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 10/30/17 6:35:11 PM #38: |
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EternalDivide 10/30/17 6:40:17 PM #41: |
Polygon and Kotaku both should be blackballed by all developers and publishers.
Sadly that wont happen. But it should. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 10/30/17 6:41:48 PM #42: |
Like I've said Polygon has done an article when it's about violence against men.
https://www.polygon.com/2014/7/15/5899161/violent-video-games-assassins-creed This conversation often comes up during E3. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:41:59 PM #43: |
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:44:45 PM #45: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
CookieMarvin posted...youre really trying hard to miss the point here arent you m8y Violence against women is not worth discussing? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 10/30/17 6:52:10 PM #47: |
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Lonestar2000 10/30/17 6:52:17 PM #48: |
CookieMarvin posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...CookieMarvin posted...youre really trying hard to miss the point here arent you m8y Not when it comes to fictional media. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachTrump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 10/30/17 6:53:29 PM #49: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
CookieMarvin posted...Violence against women is not worth discussing? hey, just wanna reiterate, that context does not exist. Those problems arent real problems. The depiction is a real problem in our real world. I am not speaking on this through the lens of someone in the last of us. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 10/30/17 7:01:50 PM #50: |
Men and women literally die all the time in TLoU, why is it a problem when the trailer shows women in it?
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