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WastelandCowboy
11/20/17 8:28:14 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-denounces-climate-change-deniers/

BONN, Germany -- Pope Francis denounced those who deny global warming and urged negotiators at climate talks in Germany to avoid falling prey to such "perverse attitudes" and instead accelerate efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions.

Francis issued a message Thursday to the Bonn meeting, which is working to implement the 2015 Paris accord aimed at capping global emissions.

In the message, Francis called climate change "one of the most worrisome phenomena that humanity is facing," and urged negotiators to ignore special interests and political or economic pressures and instead engage in an honest dialogue about the future of the planet.

He denounced that such efforts are often frustrated by those who deny climate change, are indifferent to it, or think it can only be solved by technical solutions.

Also Thursday, the top American representative at the talks told other delegates the United States is still committed to reducing greenhouse gas even though the Trump administration still plans to pull out of the Paris accord.

Britain and Canada, meanwhile, announced a new alliance aimed at encouraging countries to phase out the use of coal to curb climate change. Among others, the Global Alliance to Power Past Coal also includes Finland, France, Italy, Mexico, New Zealand and several U.S. states and Canadian provinces.

In closing remarks to the conference, the U.S. State Department's Judith Garber said "we remain open to the possibility of rejoining (the Paris climate deal) at a later date under terms more favorable to the American people."

Despite U.S. skepticism over the Paris accord, "the United States will continue to be a leader in clean energy and innovation, and we understand the need for transforming energy systems," said Garber, the acting assistant secretary of state for oceans and international environmental and scientific affairs.

"We remain collectively committed to mitigating greenhouse gas emissions through, among other things, increased innovation on sustainable energy and energy efficiency, and working towards low greenhouse gas emissions energy systems," she said.

The talks are expected to end Friday.

While coal-fueled power stations are considered one of the biggest sources of carbon dioxide that's heating up the Earth's atmosphere, countries such as Indonesia, Vietnam and the United States are planning to expand their use of coal in the coming years. Even Germany and Poland, hosts of climate talks this year and next, are holding onto coal for the foreseeable future.

Garber did not mention the use of coal, but said as countries strive to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, each "will need to determine the appropriate energy mix based on its particular circumstances, taking into account the need for energy security, promotion of economic growth and environmental protection."

"In that context, we want to support the cleanest, most efficient power generation, regardless of source," she added.

In a private initiative announced Thursday, Storebrand, a Norwegian investment fund that manages assets worth over $80 billion, said it would pull investments from 10 companies over their involvement in the coal sector.

Chief executive, Jan Erik Saugestad, said the decision is meant as a warning to utility companies to "clean up" their energy sources "or lose customers and investors."

The companies affected include German energy company RWE, Poland's PGE and Eskom Holdings of South Africa.

Storebrand said it hopes the much larger Norwegian Sovereign Wealth fund, which holds $1 trillion generated from the country's sale of oil, will follow its divestment decision.
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Kimbos_Egg
11/20/17 8:28:59 PM
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You'll pay for this, in time.
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:33:54 PM
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The Pope should know better. We don't have the power to overcome God's will and annihilate His creation. The world will be here for as long as the Lord wants it to be here.
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Mead
11/20/17 8:34:07 PM
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He should start excommunicating folks.

That would get some real attention.
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thedeerzord
11/20/17 8:35:16 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
The Pope should know better. We don't have the power to overcome God's will and annihilate His creation. The world will be here for as long as the Lord wants it to be here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:35:22 PM
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Mead posted...
He should start excommunicating folks.

That would get some real attention.

If Catholics who support abortion and gay marriage don't get excommunicated, then nobody is getting excommunicated.
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:35:44 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
The Pope should know better. We don't have the power to overcome God's will and annihilate His creation. The world will be here for as long as the Lord wants it to be here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

I can't help it if you're a heathen with no faith in the Lord.
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Mead
11/20/17 8:40:52 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
He should start excommunicating folks.

That would get some real attention.

If Catholics who support abortion and gay marriage don't get excommunicated, then nobody is getting excommunicated.


You don't seem particularly bright
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:41:32 PM
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Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
He should start excommunicating folks.

That would get some real attention.

If Catholics who support abortion and gay marriage don't get excommunicated, then nobody is getting excommunicated.


You don't seem particularly bright

So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.
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Mead
11/20/17 8:42:25 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:45:07 PM
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Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.

Well, then, you're flat out wrong. Like, objectively wrong. Demonstrably.
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Doctor Foxx
11/20/17 8:46:59 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.

Well, then, you're flat out wrong. Like, objectively wrong. Demonstrably.

Sounds like you might want to be an evangelical Baptist. Don't worry I'm sure they'd take you in
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:48:33 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.

Well, then, you're flat out wrong. Like, objectively wrong. Demonstrably.

Sounds like you might want to be an evangelical Baptist. Don't worry I'm sure they'd take you in

It's not that hard to google what's against Catholic doctrine.
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Doctor Foxx
11/20/17 8:50:05 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.

Well, then, you're flat out wrong. Like, objectively wrong. Demonstrably.

Sounds like you might want to be an evangelical Baptist. Don't worry I'm sure they'd take you in

It's not that hard to google what's against Catholic doctrine.

Tell that to the Pope
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:54:05 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
So, you're saying that abortion and gay marriage aren't against Catholic doctrine? Okay.


I sure am.

Deal with it.

Well, then, you're flat out wrong. Like, objectively wrong. Demonstrably.

Sounds like you might want to be an evangelical Baptist. Don't worry I'm sure they'd take you in

It's not that hard to google what's against Catholic doctrine.

Tell that to the Pope

I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion.
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Mead
11/20/17 8:55:15 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 8:58:10 PM
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Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.
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Zeus
11/20/17 8:59:00 PM
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Given that climate change has taken on the trappings of religion, who better to denounce heretics than a pope? =p
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Kyuubi4269
11/20/17 8:59:17 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.

He is literally depicted as a dirty hippy.
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Doctor Foxx
11/20/17 8:59:21 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.

Really sounds like you'd fit in with the evangelicals that say Jesus wasn't about love at all
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 9:00:45 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.

Really sounds like you'd fit in with the evangelicals that say Jesus wasn't about love at all

Yes, Jesus was about love. The problem is, people like you think that "Love thy neighbor" means "Allow your neighbor to continue blissfully in his sin until he meets his ultimate destruction."
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Mead
11/20/17 9:01:23 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.


Only based on the New Testament
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 9:02:51 PM
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Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.


Only based on the New Testament

So, in the New Testament, Jesus didn't tell people to repent of their sins and try to become better people? He didn't tell them to deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him?
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Mead
11/20/17 9:04:13 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.


Only based on the New Testament

So, in the New Testament, Jesus didn't tell people to repent of their sins and try to become better people? He didn't tell them to deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him?


Can you quote the part where he said being gay and using birth control are sins?
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 9:05:28 PM
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Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.


Only based on the New Testament

So, in the New Testament, Jesus didn't tell people to repent of their sins and try to become better people? He didn't tell them to deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him?


Can you quote the part where he said being gay and using birth control are sins?

Abortion isn't birth control. Abortion is murder.

As for homosexuality, God the Father is clear on that, and God the Son is not against God the Father.
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Mead
11/20/17 9:08:06 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Abortion isn't birth control. Abortion is murder.


Debatable.

Metal_Mario99 posted...
As for homosexuality, God the Father is clear on that, and God the Son is not against God the Father.


Can you quote the part where God preached that being gay was a sin? Even if you can, that is from the Old Testament which is factually an amalgam formed at the Council of Nicea of a lot of different sources including pagan doctrine.
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Metal_Mario99
11/20/17 9:11:42 PM
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I can quote in the New Testament where it says homosexuality is wrong. True, Jesus didn't say it, Paul did, but that's probably not good enough for you, even though Paul was handpicked and divinely inspired by Christ. Just throw out whatever part of the Bible you don't like because you think it's mean or unfair or whatever. I'll just leave this here, because it's particularly apt:

"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear." ~II Timothy 4:3
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Mead
11/20/17 9:13:12 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
I can quote in the New Testament where it says homosexuality is wrong. True, Jesus didn't say it, Paul did, but that's probably not good enough for you, even though Paul was handpicked and divinely inspired by Christ. Just throw out whatever part of the Bible you don't like because you think it's mean or unfair or whatever. I'll just leave this here, because it's particularly apt:

"For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear." ~II Timothy 4:3


Irony.
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Zikten
11/20/17 10:08:41 PM
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I wonder if my dad knows about this... he loves the pope but rejects climate change. or at least that humans cause it.
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d_parker
11/20/17 10:43:23 PM
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But it's still okay to have 10 kids?
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Firewood18
11/20/17 10:52:21 PM
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I believe in climate change. It gets cold and it gets hot.

But if the pope says its serious we should all start building arks.
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Moonjay
11/20/17 10:59:58 PM
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I love this pope.
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OhhhJa
11/20/17 11:09:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
I wonder if my dad knows about this... he loves the pope but rejects climate change. or at least that humans cause it.

Pretty sure this pope has openly believed in man made climate change since forever ago...
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yutterh
11/20/17 11:27:26 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Mead posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...
I think you'll find that the Pope is against gay marriage and abortion


I asked him and he said you should chill and focus on the things Christ actually preached about

So, you're one of these people who thinks that Jesus is some totally chill hippie who doesn't judge and is cool with you doing whatever you want to do as long as it makes you feel good.


Only based on the New Testament

So, in the New Testament, Jesus didn't tell people to repent of their sins and try to become better people? He didn't tell them to deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him?


Yeah he told them to become better people and he also said "he who is without sin cast the first stone" his way of teaching wasn't about being cruel to others and hurting them. So when someone is gay, which may or may not be a sin, not gonna get into it, and others are discriminating against them, they themselves are sinning.

Jesus basically was preaching to love everyone as he loves them. The only people he got pissed off about were those preaching hate in his God's name. Everyone else was just trying to find their way in the world and he knew that.

The bible is more then just a code you have to follow. They are stories your supposed to learn from. Yes they did have a giant rule book at one point but do you know why it was made? Because they had no rules to live as a civilisation, his word wasn't supposed to be forever it was just a way to get them started.

The bible is important but following GOD is more important and learning to really connecting with him is what matters most. GOD and Jesus are more then a book, no matter how holy that book is. People focus too much on the bible and not enough on them.
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ssj4supervegeta
11/20/17 11:40:33 PM
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Metal_Mario99 posted...
The Pope should know better. We don't have the power to overcome God's will and annihilate His creation. The world will be here for as long as the Lord wants it to be here.

to be fair climate change wouldn't destroy the world. just a lot of people. not even all of us. just a lot.
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