Current Events > Plants vs Zombies dev fired by EA for rejecting pay to win

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http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/11/21/plants-vs-zombies-creator-reportedly-fired-by-ea-for-objecting-to-play-to-win

Maybe he shouldn't have been so closed minded, maybe he wouldn't have gotten fired /sarcasm

It's so funny how these companies keep showing their true face to us and yet so many of you are STILL willing to defend their shitty business practices ,shill for them, and have the glaring audacity to say I'm the one in the wrong for being opposed to their money grubbing schemes and flat out refusing to believe the bullshit spewed from their PR departments that so many of you on CE just love to parrot like gospel
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Who is defending EA and why do you think you're special
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I was gonna say he probably should have spoken up before PvZ2, but apparently this happened years ago. And yeah it sucks, but when the company you work for gets bought by a giant corporation then it plain and simply isn't your game anymore. It would have made no sense to keep him around if his vision is completely different from theirs.
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His wife was the one who made the awesome music too. So glad I didn't get any of the sequels
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Who is defending EA and why do you think you're special

A lot of people on here defend EA actually. It's pretty sickening.

It sucks that he couldn't save the series that he created from being dragged into the depths of hell but his departure from EA was more than likely for the best on his part.

Let's all pray to Arceus for the poor employees of Respawn that were recently sold off to EA. May they escape with their souls.
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To be fair, the micro transactions in PvZ2 are painfully minimal and is mostly reduced to OP plants

You can beat the entire game without spending a cent or grinding

NathanX95 posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Who is defending EA and why do you think you're special

A lot of people on here defend EA actually. It's pretty sickening.

No one is.
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Still waiting for a paid 3DS/PS4/Switch/Vita version of PVZ2.

But EA likes zombies that prefer wallets over brains so never gonna happen
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Tmaster148 posted...

NathanX95 posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Who is defending EA and why do you think you're special

A lot of people on here defend EA actually. It's pretty sickening.

No one is.

Lol wat?!?!? @Tmaster148

You dismissively handwave literally every shitty and shady business practice comitted by publishers by saying "That's just Capitalism"
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ZombiePelican posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

NathanX95 posted...

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Who is defending EA and why do you think you're special

A lot of people on here defend EA actually. It's pretty sickening.

No one is.

Lol wat?!?!? @Tmaster148

You dismissively handwave literally every shitty and shady business practice comitted by publisbers by saying "That's just Capitalism"

I have not dismissed shitty and shady business practices. You just lack reading comprehension. It is capitalism and it's why yelling on CE bitching about loot boxes won't accomplish anything.

In the case of Star War's Battlefront 2 and reddit, people were mass refunding the game and sending messages directly to Disney along with complaining on reddit. They were actually doing things that would get the business to notice unlike you.

As I've said before, I have no interest in holding a discussion with you because you handwave anything that doesn't fit 100% of your view as being a corporate shill.
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https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/11/widespread-rumour-about-ea-firing-plants-vs-zombies-creator-isnt-quite-true/

Two former high-level Popcap employees both told me a different story entirely. Fan was let go, they said, as part of a larger set of layoffs in August 2012 that left 50 Popcap employees out of jobs. During these layoffs, Popcap decided to close its office in San Mateo, California, where Fan had worked with two other people. The decision was made by Popcap's management, the sources said, and it came after months of discussion and debate.

In short, those sources said, Fan's ethos as an indie game developer conflicted with the new corporate structure of EA, which had purchased Popcap in the winter of 2011. He didn't mesh well with the massive corporation. It was true that Fan didn't want to make "freemium" games, the sources said, but he wasn't working on Plants vs. Zombies 2 - he was working on other projects.

Fan lost interest in Plants vs. Zombies when EA began envisioning it as a massive franchise, the sources said, and he spent time on new ideas, such as a game with the brilliant title Full Contact Bingo. When it became clear that Popcap's future would revolve around making free-to-play games with microtransactions, Fan no longer fit in.

A third former Popcap employee, Allen Murray, told a similar story on Twitter:

Wow. Hey @edmundmcmillen, I was the producer of PvZ2 and that story was not even close to the truth. It's a bummer that something false like this came out second hand. I'm happy to chat offline...

Cool. Since this picked up some traction, I should state the facts that I know. I was the lead producer from Jan '12 to launch in July '13, about 18mo. George was never involved during the time I worked on the project. He was working on a different game, which was super fun!

But it never launched. George was unfortunately part of the layoffs in Aug '12, but I know none of the details surrounding his departure. In Oct '12 there was a change in franchise leadership that mandated a shift to f2p mobile.

Despite concerns about the design change, I'm proud of the work me and my team did. George created a great game that we built upon and I was sad to see him go. I'm excited for his new endeavour and wish everyone the best of luck!

In other words, there were no cartoon villains at EA cackling maniacally and firing anyone who refused to make their games pay-to-win. EA might be a multi-billion-dollar publisher whose interests lie primarily in making as much money as possible, but this was a nuanced, complicated situation involving multiple sides and perspectives. As always.

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Tmaster148 posted...

I have not dismissed shitty and shady business practices.

He says while proceeding to handwave any criticism of shady and shitty business business practices committed by publishers

Tmaster148 posted...

It is capitalism and it's why yelling on CE bitching about loot boxes won't accomplish anything.

It helps by keeping shills like you on your toes.

Tmaster148 posted...

In the case of Star War's Battlefront 2 and reddit, people were mass refunding the game and sending messages directly to Disney along with complaining on reddit. They were actually doing things that would get the business to notice unlike you.

That's hilarious how you backpedaled on your whole "whining on the internet won't change anything" speal to "well this is different"

You're so desprate to shill for these companies, it's beyond pathetic

Tmaster148 posted...

As I've said before, I have no interest in holding a discussion with you because you handwave anything that doesn't fit 100% of your view as being a corporate shill.

>Shills for corporations
>Gets butthurt when other call you out for it

Self awarness not a strong point of yours,eh?
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I'm not shilling for corporations, your brain just has the inability to comprehend anything that doesn't match 100% with your thought process.
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