Board 8 > Freedom, Liberty, Ron Paul - Thanksgiving (brought to you by Trump) [dwmf]

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foolm0r0n
12/07/17 3:57:14 PM
#251:


SantaRPidgey posted...
Guiding a children through shyness is not taking away their personal freedoms any more than teaching them math

Tons of kids have intimacy issues because parents/family got uncomfortably touchy with them as kids like you're describing.

There's a clear difference between teaching a child basic skinship and intimacy skills, and destructively harassing them. It has to be well explained and intentional and the kid's comfort needs to be considered, just like any consensual relationship or act. Not just grabbing them at a thanksgiving and kissing them.

It's like saying pedophiles are good because they teach kids important sex skills...
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Kenri
12/07/17 3:57:46 PM
#252:


SmartMuffin posted...
should children be free to decide whether they get vaccinated or not?

We already let parents decide for whatever stupid reason so probably

But that's slightly different in that your decision can directly harm others
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foolm0r0n
12/07/17 3:58:42 PM
#253:


SantaRPidgey posted...
Basically the equivalent of if a pigeon shit on you. I would feel sympathy, but I'm not going to go out looking for your pigeon or start pigeon reeducation campaigns

And if someone else invented an anti-pigeon-shit device, you would go out of your way to bash it and say that pigeon shit is just how society is supposed to work and the crazy Pigeon Shit Warriors needs to stop ruining everything
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Mr Lasastryke
12/07/17 4:00:59 PM
#254:


SantaRPidgey posted...
As the kissie though, we should take responsibility for our kissers, educate them in a calm and patient manner, and show forgiveness for missteps.


yeah, as i said in post #223 i can't get on board with this because it reduces women who get kissed against their will to test objects.

i'm not saying if a woman got kissed by a guy against her will she should immediately drag him to the police or something, but i think it's totally fine if she just says "hey dude don't do that leave me alone" instead of "i forgive you for doing that, now let me explain to you how you can improve your kissing tactics." why should we have 100% empathy for the kisser and 0% for the kissie?
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SmartMuffin
12/07/17 4:01:35 PM
#255:


We already let parents decide for whatever stupid reason


I didn't ask about parents deciding, I asked about kids deciding.

The current non-SJW model of "does your child have to hug grandma or not" is "the parents get to decide", just like with vaccines.

If you want to make an argument of "kids own themselves and forcing them to hug grandma is rape" then I don't see how you can justify holding a kid down and stabbing them with a needle against their will, either.
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SmartMuffin
12/07/17 4:02:56 PM
#256:


And if someone else invented an anti-pigeon-shit device


But feminism hasn't actually done this. It hasn't invented a way to magically decipher if women want to be kissed or not. It just says "NEVER KISS WOMEN UNLESS THEY EXPLICITLY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO BE KISSED" which is a thing that most women simply do not want to do.

Which, as I say, not only makes men worse off, but will make a whole lot of women worse off too.
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Kenri
12/07/17 4:03:46 PM
#257:


SmartMuffin posted...
I didn't ask about parents deciding, I asked about kids deciding.

And I answered. What more do you want from me?

SmartMuffin posted...
If you want to make an argument of "kids own themselves and forcing them to hug grandma is rape" then I don't see how you can justify holding a kid down and stabbing them with a needle against their will, either.

Man, luckily I didn't make that first argument at all, I guess.

(I also already answered how you can justify the latter part??)
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SantaRPidgey
12/07/17 4:06:45 PM
#258:


foolm0r0n posted...
SantaRPidgey posted...
Basically the equivalent of if a pigeon shit on you. I would feel sympathy, but I'm not going to go out looking for your pigeon or start pigeon reeducation campaigns

And if someone else invented an anti-pigeon-shit device, you would go out of your way to bash it and say that pigeon shit is just how society is supposed to work and the crazy Pigeon Shit Warriors needs to stop ruining everything


Yeah I would actively make fun of someone walking around a city with an umbrella for that purpose, and even more so if they used the words "Anti-pigeon shit device" when describing it
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THEDavyJones
12/07/17 4:14:28 PM
#259:


Why wouldn't someone want an anti-pigeon shit device?

It guarantees you never get shit on by a pigeon again.
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SmartMuffin
12/07/17 4:18:11 PM
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Panthera
12/07/17 4:37:48 PM
#261:


THEDavyJones posted...
Why wouldn't someone want an anti-pigeon shit device?

It guarantees you never get shit on by a pigeon again.


I'd prefer one that defends against seagull shit too. Maybe even blue jay shit. Gotta be efficient here.
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foolm0r0n
12/07/17 4:42:22 PM
#262:


SmartMuffin posted...
But feminism hasn't actually done this. It hasn't invented a way to magically decipher if women want to be kissed or not. It just says "NEVER KISS WOMEN UNLESS THEY EXPLICITLY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO BE KISSED" which is a thing that most women simply do not want to do.

Which, as I say, not only makes men worse off, but will make a whole lot of women worse off too.

I'm saying to talk to women (and kids) like human beings and you're arguing against that
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foolm0r0n
12/07/17 4:46:02 PM
#263:


SantaRPidgey posted...
Yeah I would actively make fun of someone walking around a city with an umbrella for that purpose, and even more so if they used the words "Anti-pigeon shit device" when describing it

Fine then continue to laugh at people going about their own business in a totally normal way. Just don't release a bunch of constipated pigeons into the sky in the process.
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SmartMuffin
12/07/17 6:16:30 PM
#264:


http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/07/los-angeles-reserves-the-right-to-decide

this is not what "legalization" looks like
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foolm0r0n
12/07/17 10:38:57 PM
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foolm0r0n
12/08/17 4:21:16 PM
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SmartMuffin
12/08/17 7:15:33 PM
#267:


Sent a selfie to the GFWOB

She told me I should smile more

Did I just get harassed?
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Mr Lasastryke
12/08/17 7:18:14 PM
#268:


sorry dude timjab made a joke like that on like the first day #metoo was a thing
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foolm0r0n
12/08/17 7:44:40 PM
#269:


She literally negged you
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SmartMuffin
12/08/17 7:49:05 PM
#270:


foolm0r0n posted...
She literally negged you


Well I'm not fucking her tonight so it didn't work.
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SmartMuffin
12/09/17 12:54:08 AM
#271:


lol foolmo retweeting leftist anti-capitalist propaganda
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Kenri
12/09/17 2:59:04 AM
#272:


are you upset he's not retweeting rightist anti-capitalist propaganda like you or what?
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foolm0r0n
12/09/17 5:32:49 PM
#273:


SmartMuffin posted...
lol foolmo retweeting leftist anti-capitalist propaganda

Which
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SmartMuffin
12/10/17 1:37:47 PM
#274:


cartoonists whining about their shitty health insurance and being all "someone needs to solve this"
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HotDogButts
12/10/17 2:05:31 PM
#275:


way worse than cartoonists whining about their shitty cognitive dissonance
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foolm0r0n
12/10/17 2:13:20 PM
#276:


SmartMuffin posted...
cartoonists whining about their shitty health insurance and being all "someone needs to solve this"

The whole point of the comic is how Obamacare sucks for small businesses

You're implying Obamacare is free market and I'M the leftist?
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SmartMuffin
12/10/17 2:59:28 PM
#277:


The whole point of the comic is how Obamacare sucks for small businesses

He's implicitly calling for greater government involvement. "Someone needs to fix this!" = "Help me big government!" Libertarians figure their own shit out.
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HotDogButts
12/10/17 3:06:20 PM
#278:


So libertarians don't think someone needs to fix our healthcare industry? Case closed, were good here.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/10/17 3:26:47 PM
#279:


SmartMuffin posted...
"Someone needs to fix this!" = "Help me big government!" Libertarians figure their own shit out.


isn't this topic basically you telling us that "someone needs to fix" big government?
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foolm0r0n
12/10/17 4:17:38 PM
#280:


Nothing in that post is right or makes any sense nor does muffin even believe it, unless he's finally ready to admit he's dropped any pretense of being a libertarian
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SmartMuffin
12/11/17 5:19:25 PM
#281:


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/11/health/diet-coke-trump-health-effects/index.html

CNN basically running "Trump so fat" stories.

That first Trump tweet is pretty amazing tho.
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SmartMuffin
12/11/17 11:37:45 PM
#282:


https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/940246750098542592

words to live by
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SmartMuffin
12/11/17 11:45:17 PM
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 3:44:06 AM
#284:


wtf it's an interview not a marriage
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/17 7:10:04 AM
#285:


"group sends 12 year girl to interview an insane racist sexual assaulter. SO AMAZING AND BALLSY."
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SmartMuffin
12/12/17 9:02:41 AM
#286:


It's just a giant middle finger to the mainstream media, who once again is going to learn that you can't simply vilify someone into losing an election if people support their ideas.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/17 9:07:03 AM
#287:


yeah, fuck the mainstream media for pointing out how big of an asshole roy moore is. it's way better to send 12 year old girls to him!
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THEDavyJones
12/12/17 9:42:34 AM
#288:


SmartMuffin posted...
It's just a giant middle finger to the mainstream media, who once again is going to learn that you can't simply vilify someone into losing an election if people support their ideas.


I would like to point out that Roy Moore is likely to win a state by less than 10 percentage points (possibly less than 5) that Trump carried by 28%.

The media did a pretty damn good job of properly vilifying Moore into a rounding error away from losing to Doug Jones. In a state where he has a built in 50% evangelical vote.
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SmartMuffin
12/12/17 9:56:17 AM
#289:


Given that it's winner takes all, all that time and effort amounts to exactly nothing.
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THEDavyJones
12/12/17 10:02:13 AM
#290:


SmartMuffin posted...
Given that it's winner takes all, all that time and effort amounts to exactly nothing.


Or it shows a growing trend of Republicans struggling in the upcoming midterms. They were expected to lose by 3% in Virginia. They lost by 9%. They were supposed to keep their majority in congress. They lost it. They've lost some 33 state level elections, including some in districts that went majorly for Trump. They're only going to hang on to Alabama because it's probably the most red state in the country, and there's a loon out there pushing for more of these type of Republican candidates across the country in primaries against establishment Republicans.

Considering how poorly Trump is polling and how much Republican candidates are struggling with him as party leader, I'd say the MSM is doing a pretty good job of derailing anything Trump is trying to accomplish.
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 12:02:20 PM
#291:


SmartMuffin posted...
It's just a giant middle finger to the mainstream media, who once again is going to learn that you can't simply vilify someone into losing an election if people support their ideas.

... The "idea" in this case is Roy Moore being attracted to underage girls
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SmartMuffin
12/12/17 12:03:14 PM
#292:


Nah, it's that he's not a progressive.

Progressivism is literally less popular than child rape.
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 12:07:55 PM
#293:


Right. Is it invalid to criticize that because of the results of an election?

It's one thing to base your morality on the law. But to base it on elections and majority vote, that's several orders of magnitude more absurd. I guess if you love the status quo, it's your only option. "Go with the flow" and so on.
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THEDavyJones
12/12/17 12:08:22 PM
#294:


SmartMuffin posted...
Nah, it's that he's not a progressive.

Progressivism is literally less popular than child rape.


This is a pretty dumb thing to say. I didn't realize Alabama was an accurate reflection of the entire fucking country.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/17 12:22:46 PM
#296:


oh wait i read that wrong
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SmartMuffin
12/12/17 1:13:36 PM
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SmartMuffin
12/12/17 3:42:57 PM
#298:


Official predix: Franken is going to take it back and not resign.
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Kenri
12/12/17 4:48:58 PM
#299:


SmartMuffin posted...
Progressivism is literally less popular than child rape.

This a pretty big indictment of America if true.
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 9:59:25 PM
#300:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3zvvKpN6k


what a cute anecdote, we need politicians to be more relatable like this
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redrocket_pub
12/13/17 12:07:39 AM
#301:


Another victory for the globalist mainstream media.
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