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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 7:30:20 PM
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I'm hoping C
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Taharqa_
12/02/17 7:31:03 PM
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God please no.
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Calwings
12/02/17 7:34:25 PM
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If the playoff committee has any sort of common sense whatsoever, the answer would be D.
*votes C*
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Cornmuffins
12/02/17 7:36:11 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
God please no.

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DarthAragorn
12/02/17 7:37:04 PM
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I'd rather see UCF
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Paper_Okami
12/02/17 7:52:00 PM
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They don't deserve it, who did they actually beat?
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Taharqa_
12/02/17 7:53:01 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
They don't deserve it, who did they actually beat?


Bama played one good team and lost. That 'good team' just got beat by 3 TDs.
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12/02/17 7:53:31 PM
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__aCEr__
12/02/17 7:54:57 PM
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Everyone has talked shit about the Big 10 all year. Alabama will absolutely get in if Ohio State wins. I think the CFP committee don't even want to put in an undefeated Wisconsin but they'd kinda have to.
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:06:21 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
They don't deserve it, who did they actually beat?


Bama played one good team and lost. That 'good team' just got beat by 3 TDs.

They also beat said team they just lost to by 3 TDs in the regular season sooooo

It's not about just who Alabama beat. It's how they beat them. Aside from MS State they demolished every team they beat. A 2-loss OSU doesn't deserve to get in over a 1-loss Alabama based on eye test alone

You also can't get demolished by Iowa and tell me you deserve a chance.
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Taharqa_
12/02/17 9:16:12 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
They don't deserve it, who did they actually beat?


Bama played one good team and lost. That 'good team' just got beat by 3 TDs.

They also beat said team they just got lost to by 3 TDs in the regular season sooooo

It's not about just who Alabama beat. It's how they beat them. Aside from MS State they demolished every team they beat. A 2-loss OSU doesn't deserve to get in over a 1-loss Alabama based on eye test alone

You also can't get demolished by Iowa and tell me you deserve a chance.


Their schedule is not impressive, LSU is down and MS St. is ok, plus the three cupcake non-conference games. I could assemble a team full of CEmen that could beat Mercer. It's not their fault that FSU cratered but still.

This Bama team isn't as dominant as past teams, they're riding on reputation now.
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mew4ever
12/02/17 9:18:39 PM
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Ohio state fans with the massive flip flop are funny. Last year it was like "you don't need to be in the conference championship game, that shouldn't mean anything". Now its like "you can't just ignore a conference championship". I think they'll miss the playoff this year off of the precedent they set themselves last year.
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 9:19:24 PM
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Ohio State jumped in last year because they had a marquee win. Bama doesnt have a marquee win. They wont get in since TCU lost.
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NightMarishPie
12/02/17 9:20:30 PM
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ohio state beat michigan, penn state, michigan state and potentially Wisconsin. Sure, they lost to Iowa badly, but you gotta give it to ohio state...right?
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DarthAragorn
12/02/17 9:21:59 PM
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Real talk if you can't win your conference you don't deserve one of only four playoff spots. If there were 8, maybe.
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TroutPaste
12/02/17 9:22:05 PM
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NightMarishPie
12/02/17 9:24:23 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Real talk if you can't win your conference you don't deserve one of only four playoff spots. If there were 8, maybe.

cough, ohio state last year
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:24:28 PM
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I want to clarify a position and I should've put this in the poll.

It's going to be really hard to deny OSU if they completely BTFO Wisconsin. If they win by 3 or 4 scores I'm not going to really argue if OSU gets in

NightMarishPie posted...
ohio state beat michigan, penn state, michigan state and potentially Wisconsin. Sure, they lost to Iowa badly, but you gotta give it to ohio state...right?


idk I think shit like that exposes you personally but I'm not on the committee
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DarthAragorn
12/02/17 9:25:06 PM
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NightMarishPie posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Real talk if you can't win your conference you don't deserve one of only four playoff spots. If there were 8, maybe.

cough, ohio state last year

I would have said the same thing last year
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Calwings
12/02/17 9:25:38 PM
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NightMarishPie posted...
ohio state beat michigan, penn state, michigan state and potentially Wisconsin. Sure, they lost to Iowa badly, but you gotta give it to ohio state...right?

In a good and just world, yes. But we all know that this world is far from it.
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:25:52 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Real talk if you can't win your conference you don't deserve one of only four playoff spots. If there were 8, maybe.

If you can't beat Syracuse or Iowa you don't deserve to go but I digress
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:27:59 PM
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I also don't think Miami doesn't deserve to go if they somehow pull the ACC championship out of their ass because they lost to fucking Pitt. I think it's just as important who you lose to as it is when you lose as it's very telling.

But I'm not on the committee so how I feel is moot and I understand that, as well as that not being one of their ever-changing criteria
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mew4ever
12/02/17 9:34:33 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
I also don't think Miami doesn't deserve to go if they somehow pull the ACC championship out of their ass because they lost to fucking Pitt. I think it's just as important who you lose to as it is when you lose as it's very telling.

But I'm not on the committee so how I feel is moot and I understand that, as well as that not being one of their ever-changing criteria


Theres also an incredibly strong recency bias in college football. One could very easily argue Clemson's loss to Syracuse is the worst loss among the playoff contenders. But it was like 2 months ago so here they are at number one.
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 9:42:31 PM
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Bunch of casuals trying to decide who goes into the CFP.

Ohio State went to the CFP cause they beat a top tier opponent in their non conference. Alabama hasnt done that.
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K181
12/02/17 9:46:41 PM
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D, for duh.

.... so C.
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:47:09 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Bunch of casuals trying to decide who goes into the CFP.

Ohio State went to the CFP cause they beat a top tier opponent in their non conference. Alabama hasnt done that.

Not Alabama's fault FSU completely collapsed.

We haven't been in a situation where a conference champ had two losses and hurdled a one-loss team that was dominant all year long. At the end of the day who fucking knows what's going to happen? I still think it depends on how bad OSU beats Wisconsin, and based on eye test alone Alabama is still the better team between OSU and Alabama
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The Admiral
12/02/17 9:49:25 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
I also don't think Miami doesn't deserve to go if they somehow pull the ACC championship out of their ass because they lost to fucking Pitt. I think it's just as important who you lose to as it is when you lose as it's very telling.

But I'm not on the committee so how I feel is moot and I understand that, as well as that not being one of their ever-changing criteria


I don't think Miami has any chance of getting in even if they rally and win this game.
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DezCaughtIt
12/02/17 9:51:14 PM
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The Admiral posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...
I also don't think Miami doesn't deserve to go if they somehow pull the ACC championship out of their ass because they lost to fucking Pitt. I think it's just as important who you lose to as it is when you lose as it's very telling.

But I'm not on the committee so how I feel is moot and I understand that, as well as that not being one of their ever-changing criteria


I don't think Miami has any chance of getting in even if they rally and win this game.


I don't either but pretty much every analyst projected them going IF they won, which it clearly looks like they won't lol
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 9:58:46 PM
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Miami is 100% in if they win this game.

They wont win, but theyd be in.
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sktgamer_13dude
12/02/17 10:50:34 PM
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Well it looks like Clemson/Ohio State in the Sugar and then Georgia/Oklahoma in the Rose.

If I was the committee, Id do, based on the likely 8 teams for the other NY6 bowls:

USC/Wisconsin - Fiesta
UW/UCF - Cotton
Alabama/Penn State - Peach
Miami/Auburn - Orange

Maybe switch Bama/Auburn, but those look like some decent matchups. Orange is required to do ACC vs B1G/SEC/Notre Dame. UCF to Cotton gives them a game to maybe impress the Big12 and get an invite eventually.
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:08:55 AM
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With the way the OSU Wisconsin game went, I'm going Bama as the most likely to get #4
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Delirious_Beard
12/03/17 12:19:07 AM
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god i hope so

watching jt barrett was painful tonight
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Calwings
12/03/17 12:36:37 AM
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God I hope not. The less I have to see of that lying sack of shit Nick Saban, the better.
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TroutPaste
12/03/17 11:40:29 AM
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 11:48:22 AM
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We gonna find out today boys
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:37:26 PM
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Told y'all boys
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TomNook20
12/03/17 12:45:31 PM
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I'd love to see the rational for including alabama.

Not a conference champion, weak ass schedule, not a single impressive win, lost to the only good team they played.

Corrupt ass mofos, they need to disband the committee.
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:47:02 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
I'd love to see the rational for including alabama.

Not a conference champion, weak ass schedule, not a single impressive win, lost to the only good team they played.

Corrupt ass mofos, they need to disband the committee.


When you demolish every single team you play (and, you know, not get BTFO by a shitty Iowa team) and have one less loss, it's pretty easy and the "signature wins" just don't stack up to justify that.
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TomNook20
12/03/17 12:47:47 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...

When you demolish every single team you play (and, you know, not get BTFO by a shitty Iowa team) and have one less loss, it's pretty easy and the "signature wins" just don't stack up to justify that.


Ok, that's a great argument for UCF being in the playoff, now what's your argument for bama?
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:48:07 PM
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This shit isn't about just pure numbers anymore. That's why they went away from the BCS system in the first place
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:49:25 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
DezCaughtIt posted...

When you demolish every single team you play (and, you know, not get BTFO by a shitty Iowa team) and have one less loss, it's pretty easy and the "signature wins" just don't stack up to justify that.


Ok, that's a great argument for UCF being in the playoff, now what's your argument for bama?

TIL some people genuinely think playing in the SEC is the same as playing in the AAC

The Big Ten is overrated and inflated. Put MS State or South Carolina in there and they'd win out
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Medussa
12/03/17 12:49:48 PM
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time to go to 8. five conference champs, three debated picks.

(I know there's no room to actually do this)
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:52:38 PM
#43:


You cannot get BTFO by Iowa and expect to get in
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TomNook20
12/03/17 12:53:20 PM
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14 point win over lsu, 8 point win over ATM, 7 point win over miss st.

56 point win over MERCER!
DOMINATION.

Don't get me wrong, I love seeing OSU get screwed over after they've been the beneficiary multiple years now, but I'd much prefer the committee not being garbage.
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 12:56:19 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
14 point win over lsu, 8 point win over ATM, 7 point win over miss st.

56 point win over MERCER!
DOMINATION.

Don't get me wrong, I love seeing OSU get screwed over after they've been the beneficiary multiple years now, but I'd much prefer the committee not being garbage.


27.5 point differential.

OSU played UNLV. Why is no one complaining about that?

Is it really Alabama's fault FSU turned out to be a total bust? That was a #1 VS #3 matchup to open the season. Are you supposed to have ever-knowing hindsight when you make your schedules? Why would you punish Alabama for that when they genuinely did try to beef their schedule?

It's a different season for FSU if Francois doesn't go down in that game
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TomNook20
12/03/17 1:00:32 PM
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Running up the score on garbage teams is not impressive. Against power 5 teams with winning records, bama has won 1 game by more than 1 score.
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DezCaughtIt
12/03/17 1:03:04 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
Running up the score on garbage teams is not impressive. Against power 5 teams with winning records, bama has won 1 game by more than 1 score.

Okay. I'll see you when Bama wins it all this January. Because they're the best team in the country.
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TomNook20
12/03/17 1:07:20 PM
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12/03/17 1:08:05 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
OSU played UNLV. Why is no one complaining about that?

unlv literally beat fresno State for starters
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DarthAragorn
12/03/17 1:08:18 PM
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DezCaughtIt posted...
TomNook20 posted...
Running up the score on garbage teams is not impressive. Against power 5 teams with winning records, bama has won 1 game by more than 1 score.

Okay. I'll see you when Bama wins it all this January. Because they're the best team in the country.

Lmao no
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