Current Events > I know SJW representation and all that gets mocked, but (Star Wars, no spoilers)

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Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:02:21 PM #1:	There are pictures going around right now of an Asian girl dressed up as the Asian character from Last Jedi at the premiere, hugging the actress, and its really pretty sweet. That and all the little girls dressed up as Rey... I know it can go too far sometimes, but representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892274961] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>There are pictures going around right now of an Asian girl dressed up as the Asian character from Last Jedi at the premiere, hugging the actress, and its really pretty sweet. That and all the little girls dressed up as Rey... I know it can go too far sometimes, but representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:09:37 PM #2:	wat --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892275353] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:12:20 PM #3:	KazumaKiryu posted... wat Which part of this confused you? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892275503] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>wat</quote> Which part of this confused you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 12/15/17 2:14:04 PM #4:	Mr_Biscuit posted... KazumaKiryu posted... wat Which part of this confused you? All of it. I don't know what you're talking about. --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:892275608] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>wat</quote> Which part of this confused you?</quote> All of it. I don't know what you're talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:18:56 PM #5:	Mr_Biscuit posted... KazumaKiryu posted... wat Which part of this confused you? Mr_Biscuit posted... That and all the little girls dressed up as Rey... I know it can go too far sometimes, but representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized. I don't get what this actually means at all. Representation? --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892275853] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>wat</quote> Which part of this confused you?</quote> <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>That and all the little girls dressed up as Rey... I know it can go too far sometimes, but representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized.</quote> I don't get what this actually means at all. Representation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:20:03 PM #6:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... KazumaKiryu posted... wat Which part of this confused you? All of it. I don't know what you're talking about. Ill bulletpoint it for you -people complain about SJWs forcing representation -yet, these pictures of young fans dressing up as characters of their race/gender and feeling included are touching -therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892275914] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>wat</quote> Which part of this confused you?</quote> All of it. I don't know what you're talking about.</quote> Ill bulletpoint it for you -people complain about SJWs forcing representation -yet, these pictures of young fans dressing up as characters of their race/gender and feeling included are touching -therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 12/15/17 2:20:28 PM #7:	There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand? --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? 15 Transwomen of color have been murdered since 1/1/2017 <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:892275939] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:21:30 PM #8:	hollow_shrine posted... There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand? Thank you. >_> I was starting to feel like I was crazy or speaking another language or something... --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892276003] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand?</quote> Thank you. >_> I was starting to feel like I was crazy or speaking another language or something...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:23:22 PM #9:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Ill bulletpoint it for you -people complain about SJWs forcing representation -yet, these pictures of young fans dressing up as characters of their race/gender and feeling included are touching -therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing So what you're saying is that a woman being in a blockbuster movie is a new thing? This is mindblowing. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892276110] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>Ill bulletpoint it for you -people complain about SJWs forcing representation -yet, these pictures of young fans dressing up as characters of their race/gender and feeling included are touching -therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing</quote> So what you're saying is that a woman being in a blockbuster movie is a new thing? This is mindblowing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 2:27:13 PM #10:	Mr_Biscuit posted... hollow_shrine posted... There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand? Thank you. >_> I was starting to feel like I was crazy or speaking another language or something... It's not that, it's that they disagree. This whole idea of "You can ONLY identify with people just like yourself!" is a pretty divisive idealogy that SJWs like. What's wrong with little Asian girls liking Luke Skywalker? Or Native American girls liking Lando? NO! the SJW says, that's wrong. I kinda disagree, I think it's damaging. I mean when I was growing up one of my childhood heroes was He-Man and the thought of "Well he's white and you're not!" never even crossed my mind. Hell the Biker Mice From Mars were MICE and people still got attached to them, no one had to be a mouse to identify with them. Tomb Raider's fanbase is like 78% male, they identify just fine with Lara Croft (3 different incarnations of her) without having a crisis over gentials. That's the oppoistion people have to SJW's TC that you handwave, what you're actually enjoying is soft segregation and what you're actually opposing is real equality and inclusiveness. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892276326] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote>There are children who see themselves and identify with characters in the media they consume instead of merely watching it. Seeing their joy brings us joy in turn. What else is there to understand?</quote> Thank you. >_> I was starting to feel like I was crazy or speaking another language or something...</quote> It's not that, it's that they disagree. This whole idea of "You can ONLY identify with people just like yourself!" is a pretty divisive idealogy that SJWs like. What's wrong with little Asian girls liking Luke Skywalker? Or Native American girls liking Lando? NO! the SJW says, that's wrong. I kinda disagree, I think it's damaging. I mean when I was growing up one of my childhood heroes was He-Man and the thought of "Well he's white and you're not!" never even crossed my mind. Hell the Biker Mice From Mars were MICE and people still got attached to them, no one had to be a mouse to identify with them. Tomb Raider's fanbase is like 78% male, they identify just fine with Lara Croft (3 different incarnations of her) without having a crisis over gentials. That's the oppoistion people have to SJW's TC that you handwave, what you're actually enjoying is soft segregation and what you're actually opposing is real equality and inclusiveness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 12/15/17 2:31:32 PM #11:	Don't bite, TC. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:892276582] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>Don't bite, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 12/15/17 2:33:54 PM #12:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Don't bite, TC. This. Also, that's the whole point, TC. People (especially here) like to bitch about diversity in films for some god-forsaken bitter reason. Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:892276720] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Don't bite, TC.</quote> This. Also, that's the whole point, TC. People (especially here) like to bitch about diversity in films for some god-forsaken bitter reason. Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:36:46 PM #13:	_Near_ posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... Don't bite, TC. This. Also, that's the whole point, TC. People (especially here) like to bitch about diversity in films for some god-forsaken bitter reason. Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation. Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amidala? I don't get it. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892276852] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Don't bite, TC.</quote> This. Also, that's the whole point, TC. People (especially here) like to bitch about diversity in films for some god-forsaken bitter reason. Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation.</quote> Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amidala? I don't get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 2:37:14 PM #14:	_Near_ posted... Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710701/White-people-march-Black-Lives-Matter-protest- leader-calls-racial-segregation-demonstration-outside-DNC-Philadelphia.html Sure can. Diversity is fine and a good idea. However the idea of "You people need someone just like you people to represent you people or else you can't get attached" is bad and harmful. That's not diversity, that's the opposite of diversity, that's demanding people only respond to their 'group'. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892276874] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yet, you can definitely see its positive effects on the younger generation.</quote> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710701/White-people-march-Black-Lives-Matter-protest- leader-calls-racial-segregation-demonstration-outside-DNC-Philadelphia.html Sure can. Diversity is fine and a good idea. However the idea of "You people need someone just like you people to represent you people or else you can't get attached" is bad and harmful. That's not diversity, that's the opposite of diversity, that's demanding people only respond to their 'group'.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/15/17 2:39:02 PM #15:	KazumaKiryu posted... Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:892276956] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. </quote> They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 12/15/17 2:39:43 PM #16:	Mr_Biscuit posted... -therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing The problem is more when SJWs treat the characters in someone's work like some sort of public good that must be fairly distributed among races/genders. It's not simply that they like seeing female protagonists, it's that they think it's wrong or unfair if someone chooses not to include (enough) female characters that are to their liking in a particular work. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:892276998] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>-therefore, different genders and races being represented in blockbusters is overall a good thing</quote> The problem is more when SJWs treat the characters in someone's work like some sort of public good that must be fairly distributed among races/genders. It's not simply that they like seeing female protagonists, it's that they think it's wrong or unfair if someone chooses not to include (enough) female characters that are to their liking in a particular work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:40:02 PM #17:	The Great Muta 22 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass I'm not being a jackass at all. I'm trying to understand what TC is talking about. He's acting like there being a girl in the movie is this new "diverse" thing. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892277018] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. </quote> They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass</quote> I'm not being a jackass at all. I'm trying to understand what TC is talking about. He's acting like there being a girl in the movie is this new "diverse" thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:40:59 PM #18:	So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892277063] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 2:41:52 PM #19:	Mr_Biscuit posted... So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh "I have no counter-arguement." Uhuh. Figured so. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892277103] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh</quote> "I have no counter-arguement." Uhuh. Figured so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 12/15/17 2:42:01 PM #20:	KazumaKiryu posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass I'm not being a jackass at all. I'm trying to understand what TC is talking about. He's acting like there being a girl in the movie is this new "diverse" thing. hes not the one talking about it. All of the stupid neckbeards complaining about diversity are the ones hes responding to. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:892277109] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amadala? I don't get it. </quote> They did. Little girls loved Leia and identified with her. You know this and are just being a jackass</quote> I'm not being a jackass at all. I'm trying to understand what TC is talking about. He's acting like there being a girl in the movie is this new "diverse" thing.</quote> hes not the one talking about it. All of the stupid neckbeards complaining about diversity are the ones hes responding to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 12/15/17 2:43:34 PM #21:	I made a topic recently about how nice it was to be able to relate to a character Sleeping Dogs, being Asian-Canadian myself, so I can see where you're coming from with this. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:892277191] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>I made a topic recently about how nice it was to be able to relate to a character Sleeping Dogs, being Asian-Canadian myself, so I can see where you're coming from with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 2:45:40 PM #22:	Mr_Biscuit posted... So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars? --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892277302] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh</quote> lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 2:46:39 PM #23:	KazumaKiryu posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars? No one is "objecting" he's just deflecting so he can insult people. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892277360] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh</quote> lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars?</quote> No one is "objecting" he's just deflecting so he can insult people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 12/15/17 2:51:06 PM #24:	KazumaKiryu posted... Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amidala? I don't get it. Leia yes, but those movies are old as hell and the younger generation doesn't identify with them as much. Amidala wasn't much of a heroine. Besides, Rey wields a lightsaber so that puts her in a separate class. --- https://i.imgur.com/WyFIJkF.gif This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate can prosper. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:892277571] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote> Did Star Wars movies not have women before? Who are Leia and Amidala? I don't get it.</quote> Leia yes, but those movies are old as hell and the younger generation doesn't identify with them as much. Amidala wasn't much of a heroine. Besides, Rey wields a lightsaber so that puts her in a separate class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 2:56:22 PM #25:	KazumaKiryu posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars? Alright, apologies if I lumped you in. My point here is that while there are females in Star Wars, iconic action hero females have NOT been present. Asian characters have NOT really been present. People drum this up as shoehorning in diversity, but little kids in particular notice when someone looks like them. Hopefully grown-ass adults arent as preoccupied, but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads (though tbh Finn has some funny black sidekick cliche to him), etc. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892277837] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>So far weve only got an anime username and UnfairRepresent somehow finding this objectionable, so I feel no urge to bite tbh</quote> lmao Yakuza is not anime and I'm not even objecting. I just don't get what you're talking about. Are there people who complain about women being in Star Wars?</quote> Alright, apologies if I lumped you in. My point here is that while there are females in Star Wars, iconic action hero females have NOT been present. Asian characters have NOT really been present. People drum this up as shoehorning in diversity, but little kids in particular notice when someone looks like them. Hopefully grown-ass adults arent as preoccupied, but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads (though tbh Finn has some funny black sidekick cliche to him), etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 3:01:55 PM #26:	Mr_Biscuit posted... but little kids in particular notice when someone looks like them. If you say so. Mr_Biscuit posted... Hopefully grown-ass adults arent as preoccupied, but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads (though tbh Finn has some funny black sidekick cliche to him), etc. This is where people disagree with you. "Kids only notice a character if they share color and gentials" is an SJW belief and one that has no evidence for it. People don't oppose diversity, they oppose your insulting insistence that "You people need you people to keep you people in line" Thats the point you continue to ignore and will just insult anyone who brings it up --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892278100] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>but little kids in particular notice when someone looks like them.</quote> If you say so. <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> Hopefully grown-ass adults arent as preoccupied, but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads (though tbh Finn has some funny black sidekick cliche to him), etc.</quote> This is where people disagree with you. "Kids only notice a character if they share color and gentials" is an SJW belief and one that has no evidence for it. People don't oppose diversity, they oppose your insulting insistence that "You people need you people to keep you people in line" Thats the point you continue to ignore and will just insult anyone who brings it up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 3:47:20 PM #27:	^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though, and not even a counter to what I said, so. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892280817] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though, and not even a counter to what I said, so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BigSLM1993 12/15/17 3:55:36 PM #28:	The SJW representation complaints bug me sometimes. Like I remember those claims when the first trailer for Ep 7 came out and we saw the Protag was a woman and Finn was Black. We had no details on their story or characters yet people cried pandering. Like I'd understand if Finn had a scene where he's harassed in a hoodie, took a knee to protest the empire, or he had a shoe horned "hands up don't shoot scene" but his race had literally no impact on his character, so does it matter if he's Black or not? Because if it's still pandering that he's Black, then what race SHOULD he have been then for things to not be pandering? White? End of the day, to make a movie you have to pander to some sort of audience for tickets to be bought. What race should they have made Finn or what gender should Rey be for it to no longer be "Pandering"? (Note: I wouldn't say Rey being Mary Sue isn't necesarily a feminist thing.That's more of a writing problem. It's not like she said something like how much better woman are at the force than men. Is having a Gary Stu inherently misogynist or is it also bad writing?) <cite>BigSLM1993 posted [p:892281298] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>The SJW representation complaints bug me sometimes. Like I remember those claims when the first trailer for Ep 7 came out and we saw the Protag was a woman and Finn was Black. We had no details on their story or characters yet people cried pandering. Like I'd understand if Finn had a scene where he's harassed in a hoodie, took a knee to protest the empire, or he had a shoe horned "hands up don't shoot scene" but his race had literally no impact on his character, so does it matter if he's Black or not? Because if it's still pandering that he's Black, then what race SHOULD he have been then for things to not be pandering? White? End of the day, to make a movie you have to pander to some sort of audience for tickets to be bought. What race should they have made Finn or what gender should Rey be for it to no longer be "Pandering"? (Note: I wouldn't say Rey being Mary Sue isn't necesarily a feminist thing.That's more of a writing problem. It's not like she said something like how much better woman are at the force than men. Is having a Gary Stu inherently misogynist or is it also bad writing?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 3:59:52 PM #29:	Mr_Biscuit posted... ^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though, How is it wrong at all? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892281558] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though,</quote> How is it wrong at all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 4:07:36 PM #30:	UnfairRepresent posted... Mr_Biscuit posted... ^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though, How is it wrong at all? Lol If you read my OP and thought I said children only NOTICE characters that look like them or YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE POLICED BY YOU PEOPLE or whatever bullshit, theres nothing here to discuss Its almost as if my statement was sunglasses Unfairly Represented --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892282030] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>^Your point is unequivocally wrong, though,</quote> How is it wrong at all?</quote> Lol If you read my OP and thought I said children only NOTICE characters that look like them or YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE POLICED BY YOU PEOPLE or whatever bullshit, theres nothing here to discuss Its almost as if my statement was sunglasses Unfairly Represented</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 4:12:22 PM #31:	Mr_Biscuit posted... children only NOTICE characters that look like them You're literally happy and demanding that we all be happy that people only look up to "you people" as in people like themselves, and at the same time displaying anger towards people who say it doesn't matter who or what you are. And your defense of that is nothing but strawmans, insults and deflections. And then you pretend to wonder why people oppose SJWs. There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando. You demanding that there is, has to be considered a negative. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892282280] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> children only NOTICE characters that look like them </quote> You're literally happy and demanding that we all be happy that people only look up to "you people" as in people like themselves, and at the same time displaying anger towards people who say it doesn't matter who or what you are. And your defense of that is nothing but strawmans, insults and deflections. And then you pretend to wonder why people oppose SJWs. There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando. You demanding that there is, has to be considered a negative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 4:13:20 PM #32:	Lol Next --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892282330] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>Lol Next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 4:25:51 PM #33:	Case in point --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892282986] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>Case in point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 4:52:48 PM #34:	UnfairRepresent posted... Case in point You have no point. The genesis of this entire topic was it is heartwarming and nice to see these kids idolizing characters they identify with and you stormed in here yelling about my demands and how Im forcing you people to... I dont even know, whatever angsty BS you brought in here. Say something worth a discussion next time --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892284475] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Case in point</quote> You have no point. The genesis of this entire topic was it is heartwarming and nice to see these kids idolizing characters they identify with and you stormed in here yelling about my demands and how Im forcing you people to... I dont even know, whatever angsty BS you brought in here. Say something worth a discussion next time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/15/17 4:54:21 PM #35:	UnfairRepresent posted... There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando. Bad example since Lando is a person of color and thus qualifies as "diverse." A little girl liking Luke is what would not be acceptable. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:892284573] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando.</quote> Bad example since Lando is a person of color and thus qualifies as "diverse." A little girl liking Luke is what would not be acceptable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 4:57:36 PM #36:	Mr_Biscuit posted... it is heartwarming and nice to see these kids can idolize characters they identify with Yes and that's the thing. You're saying it's heartwarming that you people only identify with you people. You literally said that. And when someone asks "What's wrong with an Asian girl identifying with Lando? Why is that a bad thing?" You just insult them and run away. While it's cool to see a kid having fun, unlike you I'm not riveted because you people is having with you people rather than anyone having fun generally with anyone. I reject your and the SJW soft segregation notion that you can only indentify with peope who share your color or gentials and that this is something to be praised. And that's the point you will never ever ever address because you know it's right. It would be equally heartwarming if she was a big M Bison fan and was really excited to meet the latest dude to play M Bison. You however will claim otherwise. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892284727] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>it is heartwarming and nice to see these kids can idolize characters they identify with</quote> Yes and that's the thing. You're saying it's heartwarming that you people only identify with you people. You literally said that. And when someone asks "What's wrong with an Asian girl identifying with Lando? Why is that a bad thing?" You just insult them and run away. While it's cool to see a kid having fun, unlike you I'm not riveted because you people is having with you people rather than anyone having fun generally with anyone. I reject your and the SJW soft segregation notion that you can only indentify with peope who share your color or gentials and that this is something to be praised. And that's the point you will never ever ever address because you know it's right. It would be equally heartwarming if she was a big M Bison fan and was really excited to meet the latest dude to play M Bison. You however will claim otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 4:58:44 PM #37:	KazumaKiryu posted... UnfairRepresent posted... There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando. Bad example since Lando is a person of color and thus qualifies as "diverse." A little girl liking Luke is what would not be acceptable. It doesn't matter who it is, is my point. At least it doesn't matter to people who aren't prejudice.. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892284792] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing different to a girl liking Rey as opposed to a little girl liking Lando.</quote> Bad example since Lando is a person of color and thus qualifies as "diverse." A little girl liking Luke is what would not be acceptable.</quote> It doesn't matter who it is, is my point. At least it doesn't matter to people who aren't prejudice..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 5:01:40 PM #39:	shockthemonkey posted... but the reality is they don't People keep saying this then can't back it up when simply asked "How?" they just fall back on insults. I never had difficulty with this notion growing up, and I see no reason why you have to unless someone tells you to. You think black kids don't like Pater Pan growing up? Get real. I think this video sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqpq9tP14PA --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892284936] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> but the reality is they don't</quote> People keep saying this then can't back it up when simply asked "How?" they just fall back on insults. I never had difficulty with this notion growing up, and I see no reason why you have to unless someone tells you to. You think black kids don't like Pater Pan growing up? Get real. I think this video sums it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqpq9tP14PA</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 5:02:21 PM #40:	Jeeeeeeesus Christ. You must be a real blast at parties. Nowhere, ever, did I say it wasn't okay for kids to identify with or idolize other characters. I said it is heartwarming that there are options, that some kids are clearly reveling in having more options. Are you done making this some big "evil liberals" thing? Would you like me to apologize? --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892284969] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>Jeeeeeeesus Christ. You must be a real blast at parties. Nowhere, ever, did I say it wasn't okay for kids to identify with or idolize other characters. I said it is heartwarming that there are options, that some kids are clearly reveling in having more options. Are you done making this some big "evil liberals" thing? Would you like me to apologize?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 5:04:39 PM #41:	Mr_Biscuit posted... Nowhere, ever, did I say it wasn't okay for kids to identify with or idolize other characters. Mr_Biscuit posted... representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized. Mr_Biscuit posted... You have no point. Mr_Biscuit posted... but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads Yes you have, over and over again. Mr_Biscuit posted... Are you done making this some big "evil liberals" thing I never said anything about liberals Mr_Biscuit posted... that some kids are clearly reveling in having more options. More options just means more characters dude. Thats the part you don't get. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892285087] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> Nowhere, ever, did I say it wasn't okay for kids to identify with or idolize other characters. </quote> <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> representation DOES matter to these young fans. Its internalized.</quote> <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> You have no point. </quote> <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> but the reality is little kids especially notice when a girl can be a Jedi, when an Asian girl saves the day, when a black guy is one of the leads </quote> Yes you have, over and over again. <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote> Are you done making this some big "evil liberals" thing</quote> I never said anything about liberals <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>that some kids are clearly reveling in having more options.</quote> More options just means more characters dude. Thats the part you don't get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 5:04:58 PM #42:	And now I've gone and bitten on UnfairRepresent posts. Smh. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892285101] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>And now I've gone and bitten on UnfairRepresent posts. Smh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 12/15/17 5:05:21 PM #44:	Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:892285127] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 5:05:58 PM #45:	So you saw that I said "representation matters" and interpreted that as "a little girl idolizing Luke Skywalker is unacceptable" That's on you, buddy. --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892285164] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>So you saw that I said "representation matters" and interpreted that as "a little girl idolizing Luke Skywalker is unacceptable" That's on you, buddy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 12/15/17 5:06:06 PM #46:	Mr_Biscuit posted... And now I've gone and bitten on UnfairRepresent posts. Smh. He's probably rubbing his nipples and moaning right now and you need to live with being the reason why. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:892285169] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>And now I've gone and bitten on UnfairRepresent posts. Smh.</quote> He's probably rubbing his nipples and moaning right now and you need to live with being the reason why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 12/15/17 5:06:26 PM #47:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite I know. I'm mad at myself. He's pretty good at this gimmick. :( --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:892285190] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite</quote> I know. I'm mad at myself. He's pretty good at this gimmick. :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/15/17 5:08:02 PM #49:	shockthemonkey posted... Thats fine, keep arguing against kids being happy and feeling included. Nobody is doing that. Mr_Biscuit posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite I know. I'm mad at myself. He's pretty good at this gimmick. :( UnfairRepresent posted... Yes and that's the thing. You're saying it's heartwarming that you people only identify with you people. You literally said that. And when someone asks "What's wrong with an Asian girl identifying with Lando? Why is that a bad thing?" You just insult them and run away. While it's cool to see a kid having fun, unlike you I'm not riveted because you people is having with you people rather than anyone having fun generally with anyone. I reject your and the SJW soft segregation notion that you can only indentify with peope who share your color or gentials and that this is something to be praised. And that's the point you will never ever ever address because you know it's right. Called it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:892285276] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> Thats fine, keep arguing against kids being happy and feeling included.</quote> Nobody is doing that. <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote>Dammit, TC, I told you not to bite</quote> I know. I'm mad at myself. He's pretty good at this gimmick. :(</quote> <cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Yes and that's the thing. You're saying it's heartwarming that you people only identify with you people. You literally said that. And when someone asks "What's wrong with an Asian girl identifying with Lando? Why is that a bad thing?" You just insult them and run away. While it's cool to see a kid having fun, unlike you I'm not riveted because you people is having with you people rather than anyone having fun generally with anyone. I reject your and the SJW soft segregation notion that you can only indentify with peope who share your color or gentials and that this is something to be praised. And that's the point you will never ever ever address because you know it's right.</quote> Called it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 12/15/17 5:09:58 PM #50:	What's wrong with kids seeing people of their own race and gender and possibly feeling a stronger connection to that character? They see similarities on the surface and for some that's enough to enjoy it. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:892285388] in I know SJW... [t:76102404]...</cite> <quote>What's wrong with kids seeing people of their own race and gender and possibly feeling a stronger connection to that character? They see similarities on the surface and for some that's enough to enjoy it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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