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KazumaKiryu
12/16/17 10:44:58 PM
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html

WASHINGTON In the $600 billion annual Defense Department budgets, the $22 million spent on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was almost impossible to find.

Which was how the Pentagon wanted it.

For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagons C Ring, deep within the buildings maze.

The Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the program, which it says it shut down in 2012. But its backers say that, while the Pentagon ended funding for the effort at that time, the program remains in existence. For the past five years, they say, officials with the program have continued to investigate episodes brought to them by service members, while also carrying out their other Defense Department duties.

The shadowy program parts of it remain classified began in 2007, and initially it was largely funded at the request of Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat who was the Senate majority leader at the time and who has long had an interest in space phenomena. Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reids, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.
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KazumaKiryu
12/16/17 10:49:13 PM
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Make no mistake, this is monumental, world-changing news. Why is the government releasing these secrets now? It's all thanks to the founder of blink-182, Tom Delonge. His company, To The Stars, is working directly with the government to disclose this information. He also has a team of scientists and engineers who are working on harnessing this alien technology and creating a spacecraft far beyond anything we have designed before. Learn more here:

dpo.tothestarsacademy.com
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KazumaKiryu
12/17/17 2:00:12 AM
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So is this board fucking opposed to disclosure or what? This is incredible news. Even Drudge Report is showing it and a picture of a flying saucer. Our government is releasing their secrets. Yet nobody even fucking cares, y'all just wanna whine about Star Wars.
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Skye Reynolds
12/17/17 2:00:48 AM
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A plot to fund a Men in Black sequel without Will Smith?
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BignutzisBack
12/17/17 2:02:20 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Make no mistake, this is monumental, world-changing news. Why is the government releasing these secrets now? It's all thanks to the founder of blink-182, Tom Delonge. His company, To The Stars, is working directly with the government to disclose this information. He also has a team of scientists and engineers who are working on harnessing this alien technology and creating a spacecraft far beyond anything we have designed before. Learn more here:

dpo.tothestarsacademy.com


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008Zulu
12/17/17 2:03:14 AM
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Is it that big of a shock that the government would be conducting investigations in to UFO sightings? Or that they only spent 22 million on it?
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a42ozslushie
12/17/17 2:05:05 AM
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tc believes in lizard people from outer space lol
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NeoShadowhen
12/17/17 2:11:36 AM
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Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reids,
Okey dokey.

I mean, investigating flying things that they can't identify. Well, yeah. But nobody mentioned aliens. Because that's ridiculous.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/17/17 2:13:33 AM
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That's cool and all, but how does it get me laid?
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Ammonitida
12/17/17 10:12:30 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
That's cool and all, but how does it get me laid?


Aliens might find you exotic and hot, even if you would be seen as ugly by humans here on Earth.
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Xenozoa425
12/17/17 10:18:38 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
So is this board fucking opposed to disclosure or what? This is incredible news. Even Drudge Report is showing it and a picture of a flying saucer. Our government is releasing their secrets. Yet nobody even fucking cares, y'all just wanna whine about Star Wars.

That's just how people are.

Fiction > Non-fiction.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
12/17/17 10:21:32 AM
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I always assumed Trump would be the one to let the cat out of the bag about UFOs and the governments knowledge of extraterrestrials. He's got 7 more years to reveal all.
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Ammonitida
12/17/17 10:22:44 AM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
I always assumed Trump would be the one to let the cat out of the bag about UFOs and the governments knowledge of extraterrestrials. He's got 7 more years to reveal all.


MJ12 would never entrust him with any of that classified information.
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Funkydog
12/17/17 10:28:35 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Really? We're here. Statistically speaking it would be ridiculous to not believe in alien beings.

Other life existing doesn't necessarily mean they are so advanced they have space flight.

Plus, you would think with almost everyone ever having a camera capable of crystal clear photo's, someone would have got a decent picture of them by now and not have us relegated to blurry barely identifiable pictures by some crazy person.
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Unsugarized_Foo
12/17/17 10:39:55 AM
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Its incredibly narcissistic to think we're even worth looking at up close
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P4wn4g3
12/17/17 11:12:07 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Its incredibly narcissistic to think we're even worth looking at up close

Whatever. God personally told us not to masturbate.
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Funkydog
12/17/17 11:20:30 AM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I did overlook the UFO component. However, I don't think space flight isn't a possibility given that we've developed it. This is especially true if their world developed long before ours.

Would still think we'd have some evidence with the popularity of the mobile phone though. The fact we have less than before we had them seems to point to the fact they don't exist (ufo's) and haven't visited us.
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Southernfatman
12/17/17 11:28:12 AM
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Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reids, Robert Bigelow, who is currently working with NASA to produce expandable craft for humans to use in space.


No mystery here. Just ordinary corruption.
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MacadamianNut3
12/17/17 11:29:26 AM
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brb gonna grab my tin foil hat

The existence of that program really isn't surprising. UFOs have been a thing since forever, why wouldn't a government make a program to investigate them. Some shitty quality video released by the military barely showing something they can't identify just like pretty much every other alien UFO claim in the last 60 years isn't gonna make the general public flip their shit about alien overlords
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FigureOfSpeech
12/17/17 11:33:40 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
So is this board fucking opposed to disclosure or what? This is incredible news. Even Drudge Report is showing it and a picture of a flying saucer. Our government is releasing their secrets. Yet nobody even fucking cares, y'all just wanna whine about Star Wars.


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salandrews
12/17/17 12:08:46 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Its incredibly narcissistic to think we're even worth looking at up close


The edge. Its so strong.
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AmonAmarth
12/17/17 12:14:52 PM
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this isnt big news to me.

ufos exist. aliens or not is another matter.

btw the 22 million is most probably only a tiny amount of what they really spend on
secret projects.
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mustachedmystic
12/17/17 12:24:42 PM
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The Pentagon already knows what these so called UFO's are. they aren't alien
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AmonAmarth
12/17/17 12:38:03 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
The Pentagon already knows what these so called UFO's are


when it comes to ufos 99% are either fake, or prototypes of experimental technology.
I will leave 1% open in case its aliens :)

one of the russian leaders previously spoke of ufos/visitings when he didnt know he was being recorded. (mededev sp).
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Vyrulisse
12/17/17 12:45:41 PM
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Disclosure is ongoing and happening, it has been for years now. Just because they aren't doing some press conference with the President sharing everything at once doesn't mean it isn't happening. We are being prepared and brought along slowly as a species to accept the fact that we are not alone.
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AmonAmarth
12/17/17 12:46:55 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Disclosure is ongoing and happening, it has been for years now. Just because they aren't doing some press conference with the President sharing everything at once doesn't mean it isn't happening. We are being prepared and brought along slowly as a species to accept the fact that we are not alone.


are you refering to conditioning us to accept them,
through slow exposure of events?
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mustachedmystic
12/17/17 12:52:27 PM
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AmonAmarth posted...
when it comes to ufos 99% are either fake, or prototypes of experimental technology.
I will leave 1% open in case its aliens :)


Any alien civilization technologically sophisticated enough to get here would be able to observe us without risking being spotted by our (relativity) primitive asses
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Vyrulisse
12/17/17 12:52:29 PM
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AmonAmarth posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Disclosure is ongoing and happening, it has been for years now. Just because they aren't doing some press conference with the President sharing everything at once doesn't mean it isn't happening. We are being prepared and brought along slowly as a species to accept the fact that we are not alone.


are you refering to conditioning us to accept them,
through slow exposure of events?

Just in the general sense. Not too long ago if you mentioned the possibility of alien life you were a kook or a charlatan, people were afraid to even talk about it for fear of being a laughingstock especially Scientists. Now it's discussed openly and without real fear. It's almost accepted that we are not alone in the Universe and pretty silly to suggest we are.

If you listen to knowledgeable people talk about the issue it feels like when, not if anymore. So basically yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
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Funkydog
12/17/17 1:46:33 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I'm not a black and white guy, so while I am going a bit off topic, I still believe it's possible that they exist and haven't visited us, don't, or perhaps they are at the same level of evolution as we are. I basically am trying to support the theory of ETs more than I am of UFOs (which obviously also clearly exist - the question is whether or not some of them are flying saucers).

Oh yeah, I at least definitely think life does exist in some form elsewhere. As for what that form is, who knows? It could be more advanced, or could be far less advanced or just at a similar stage (which I think is much more likely)

All these "strange things" - UFOs, ghosts etc, would surely have vastly more evidence for them in the age of the mobile phone but we are still stuck with incredibly shitty evidence for it all for some reason. Sure, strange things might exist, but it doesn't mean they are something as bizarre as some might want and is just something people might not recognise (experimental technology) or their brain playing tricks on them/trick of the light etc.
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P4wn4g3
12/17/17 2:41:44 PM
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Humans assume that the observable universe is limited to what they can observe, or have discovered is observable, but that leaves a rather large amount of unknowns. We, or aliens, wouldn't need to be able to observe one another for them to exist.
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Vyrulisse
12/19/17 1:29:46 AM
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DocDelicious
12/19/17 1:44:54 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/someone-explain-to-me-the-alien-alloys-before-i-fucking-1821387673

Lmao, good read.
also scary af
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12/19/17 1:48:18 AM
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DoctorVader
12/19/17 2:02:28 AM
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Because we're the only nation on Earth and unidentified flying objects automatically means they're alien.
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DezCaughtIt
12/19/17 2:02:53 AM
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Now I know why Tom Delonge was trying to contact the Clinton camp during the election
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SGT_Conti
12/19/17 2:11:31 AM
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billman1000
12/19/17 11:53:55 AM
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DoctorVader posted...
Because we're the only nation on Earth and unidentified flying objects automatically means they're alien.

Lol
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Deadpool_18
12/19/17 12:14:32 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
Most of the money went to an aerospace research company run by a billionaire entrepreneur and longtime friend of Mr. Reids,
Okey dokey.

I mean, investigating flying things that they can't identify. Well, yeah. But nobody mentioned aliens. Because that's ridiculous.


There is literally nothing ridiculous about believing there are other forms of intelligent life in the vast expanses of the universe.

The ridiculous people are those that believe we are utterly alone in the void.
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MacadamianNut3
12/19/17 12:17:24 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
The ridiculous people are those that believe we are utterly alone in the void

And what makes them ridiculous, waiting decades for a single alien UFO claim to be credible?

Update: still waiting
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Thatguy13
12/19/17 6:48:28 PM
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What about the material that they cant identify?

https://kotaku.com/ten-video-game-alloys-that-may-or-may-not-be-what-the-u-1821430168

This weekend, the New York Times reported on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which apparently found unidentifiable alien alloys. While we have no clue what the hell those alloys are, here are some video game alloys that might as well be real now.

The information the New York Times outlines a strange alloy that caused people to have physical reactions and that required examinations for any effects on the mind. Seriously, listen to this:

Under [Bigelow Aerospace director and project cooperator] Mr. Bigelows direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena. Researchers also studied people who said they had experienced physical effects from encounters with the objects and examined them for any physiological changes.

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FigureOfSpeech
12/19/17 7:39:01 PM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
The ridiculous people are those that believe we are utterly alone in the void

And what makes them ridiculous, waiting decades for a single alien UFO claim to be credible?

Update: still waiting


You will be waiting for a while >_>
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MacadamianNut3
12/19/17 11:03:19 PM
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Thatguy13 posted...
What about the material that they cant identify?

I re-read the NYT article, the link you gave, and even a link within that link with some weirdo author spazzing out about alloys with a video (which I also watched) of the dude saying "we don't know what it is"

Literally the most concrete thing in all of those was: people (vague) saying they had experienced physical effects (vague) and that researchers were looking into it (zero links to any reports about that study)

So we're still on this super fucking vague crap with nothing solid. If the government can't release the info for some reason, well okay. I'm not gonna suddenly believe them without any actual evidence because they claim it's secret.
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Ammonitida
12/20/17 10:12:33 AM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
Thatguy13 posted...
What about the material that they cant identify?

I re-read the NYT article, the link you gave, and even a link within that link with some weirdo author spazzing out about alloys with a video (which I also watched) of the dude saying "we don't know what it is"

Literally the most concrete thing in all of those was: people (vague) saying they had experienced physical effects (vague) and that researchers were looking into it (zero links to any reports about that study)

So we're still on this super fucking vague crap with nothing solid. If the government can't release the info for some reason, well okay. I'm not gonna suddenly believe them without any actual evidence because they claim it's secret.


The Times reporter appeared on other media outlets claiming that these alloys were still unidentified (a skeptic way of saying, "not of this world"). And then you have the Airforce video which speaks for itself. When you can rule out all natural phenomena, we must accept that it's alien. That video is clearly showing an alien spacecraft. Probably a probe monitoring us.
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The Admiral
12/20/17 10:15:09 AM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
So is this board fucking opposed to disclosure or what? This is incredible news. Even Drudge Report is showing it and a picture of a flying saucer. Our government is releasing their secrets. Yet nobody even fucking cares, y'all just wanna whine about Star Wars.


Probably because everyone here knows "unidentified object" doesn't mean "alien spaceship." Those objects were things like Russian weather balloons and Chinese drones.
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Funkydog
12/20/17 10:15:58 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
The Times reporter appeared on other media outlets claiming that these alloys were still unidentified (a skeptic way of saying, "not of this world"). And then you have the Airforce video which speaks for itself. When you can rule out all natural phenomena, we must accept that it's alien. That video is clearly showing an alien spacecraft. Probably a probe monitoring us.

Well if a reporter claimed it, then I'm sold. And a video shows something that could just be government technology not released or just something the general public isn't aware of?

https://imgur.com/r/funny/HkPOzEH
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Ammonitida
12/20/17 10:23:45 AM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
The ridiculous people are those that believe we are utterly alone in the void

And what makes them ridiculous, waiting decades for a single alien UFO claim to be credible?

Update: still waiting


Dude, we had the US military state that a flying dick was recovered in the late 40s. And then you have the original MJ12 documents that skeptics originally claimed had wrong classifications UNTIL they uncovered recently declassified documents that had the exact same classifications. These were obscure classifications used during the late 40s -- a fact that wasn't know until the late 80s after the MJ-12 documents were made public. Coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHew2Yd_CZM
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Ammonitida
12/20/17 2:27:28 PM
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The man who ran the program out of the DOD says the bus-sized alien craft exhibited technology that was "beyond next generation". Basically, alien technology.

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