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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 3:59:27 AM
#1:


*shows a scene displaying Deadshot is an amazing ace sharpshooter, waiting until literally the last possible moment and then ricocheting a bullet off the wall in an impossible way on top of a building across from the target*

Next scene

*Deadshot is 2 feet away from the 6'4 Batman inside an alley. His 3 foot daughter stands in front of his leg."

"Oh noes! MOVE!"

WUT

I would be comfortable that I could easily make that shot and you're telling me the amazing meta-human crack shot couldn't? Then WTF was with the previous scene?
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Kaname_Madoka
12/17/17 4:00:32 AM
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No shit
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Phantom_Nook
12/17/17 4:01:22 AM
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"I already lost one family, and I'm not losing another!" said the guy who hung out with a few people for a night.
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LightningAce11
12/17/17 4:02:09 AM
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Inb4 unfair suddenly starts defending it.
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kuwab0
12/17/17 4:03:48 AM
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Looked gf
12/17/17 4:10:34 AM
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Went and looked up youtube for that scene. SMH he did it for his daughter, not because he couldn't make the shot you clown

Such a shit movie and you couldn't even comprehend its scenes
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 4:13:18 AM
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Looked gf posted...
. SMH he did it for his daughter,

AFTER she got in his way and he asked her to move.

That's the point, the movie was saying he couldn't make that shot.
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Zack_Attackv1
12/17/17 4:14:08 AM
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Zack_Attackv1
12/17/17 4:14:26 AM
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David Ayer is a worthless hack.
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Questionmarktarius
12/17/17 4:16:20 AM
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What about that one guy who just sorta showed up, long enough to get his neck exploded.

The sequel better damn well find a contrived way to resurrect El Diablo. He was the only guy in the first one who was at all relatable.
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TheCyborgNinja
12/17/17 4:18:41 AM
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QH7f32y
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DrizztLink
12/17/17 4:24:12 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Looked gf posted...
. SMH he did it for his daughter,

AFTER she got in his way and he asked her to move.

That's the point, the movie was saying he couldn't make that shot.

No it wasn't.

He wasn't about to unload on a guy with his fucking daughter standing there.
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 5:40:49 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
"I already lost one family, and I'm not losing another!" said the guy who hung out with a few people for a night.

Lady, you are EVIL!
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SwayM
12/17/17 5:47:09 AM
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"So that's it huh...we're some kind of collection of hack writers"
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Capital_Tenant
12/17/17 5:55:22 AM
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
No shit

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Behaviorism
12/17/17 5:59:32 AM
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I just hated how the team was supposed to be the lowest of the low, yet not single one of them we're evil. For fuck's sake, Amanda was more evil then them.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
12/17/17 6:02:48 AM
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Superman is dead, so I want nothing less than the C-Team to replace him.
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 6:22:04 AM
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Behaviorism posted...
I just hated how the team was supposed to be the lowest of the low, yet not single one of them we're evil. For fuck's sake, Amanda was more evil then them.

In fairness Amanada being more evil was the point.

They also were pretty evil, they were all ruthless killers without a care in the world beyond themselves or the one other person they care about. Captain Boomerang especially.

A couple of things about the movie I did like:

1. Captain Boomerang. He's just like got no reedemable qualities about him, he's not the strongest, fastest or smartest. He's not crazy, he has no moment, he does nothing to push the plot or save the day and he has no arc, just ends up where he started and angry...and yet as a result comes across as the most human and relatable person in the whole movie.

There's just something likable about the guy. Like they really did just bring some scumbag criminal along as opposed to "A supervillain"

2. I like that they killed Slipknot really quickly. That was well done.

3. El Diablo was cool despite a lame backstory that makes no sense

Other than that, pretty much the entire movie was awful.
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cjsdowg
12/17/17 6:27:15 AM
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I hated Waller in this movie. She was always a hard nose woman who would do anything to protect the world. But I don't think I have seen version her her that would kill people do to her fuck up. She will kill to get back at people , kill to help some big plan, but just killing her team like that was crazy. And people like this character.

Also about Deadshot. Batman really fights a man in a ally while he is with his kid. Come on Batman.
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 6:31:03 AM
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cjsdowg posted...

Also about Deadshot. Batman really fights a man in a ally while he is with his kid. Come on Batman.

In the plot they established that they gave Batman a tip that this is were Deadshot was gonna be.

Batman didn't exactly choose that moment by design and if he let Deadshot go then he never would have another chance.

The stupid part about that scene is Deadshot refusing to take the shot because he might hit his daughter, not Batman showing up.

Well that and the fact apparently the government knows where Deadshot is going to be and sends Batman instead of sending like a SWAT team
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Behaviorism
12/17/17 6:33:53 AM
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Also, there was absolutely no reason for Boomerang to return to the team. None.
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008Zulu
12/17/17 6:57:28 AM
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- One of the team was an expert climber. The final boss is on the ground floor.
- The Squad are told that if Flag dies, they die. They then plot to kill Flag, and almost do.
- How did the Joker find out about the bombs in their necks? Waller would not have told the prison guards about that, and none of them were present for the implantation procedures.
- Why is Flash's lightning blue, instead of yellow?
- Why did Batman/Bruce Wayne get more screen time instead of Flash, yet never got Ben Afleck's name in the credits when Not-Grant Gustin did?
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 7:06:48 AM
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Playing Devil's Advocate

008Zulu posted...
- One of the team was an expert climber. The final boss is on the ground floor.


They're not going to know that going in. They wanted to cover the bases.

Close range: Katana and Croc
Underground or underwater: Croc
Long Range: Deadshot
Cheerleader: Harley
Low or high ground scenario: Slipknot
Tactical: Flag and Deadshot.

- The Squad are told that if Flag dies, they die. They then plot to kill Flag, and almost do.


Boomerang didn't believe the bombs were real until Slipknot dies, after that they become reserved to their fates after the Witch goes postal.

- How did the Joker find out about the bombs in their necks? Waller would not have told the prison guards about that, and none of them were present for the implantation procedures.


He helped drag them out of the cells and knows how dangerous they are. Either he eavsdropped or put 2 and 2 together.

We right now have Donald Trump literally having classified documents in the open during functions and random slobs taking photos of them, and you refuse to believe a guard escorting dangerous criminals to a location knows theyre going to be injected at said location?

Hell for all we know, putting the bombs in the throats was his idea that he pitched to Waller afterbeing terrified of Deadshot pointing a gun at him

- Why is Flash's lightning blue, instead of yellow?


He was feeling sick that day

- Why did Batman/Bruce Wayne get more screen time instead of Flash, yet never got Ben Afleck's name in the credits when Not-Grant Gustin did?


They wanted his apperances to be a surprise.

To my (limited) knowledge, Batman's cameo was not advertised for the movie, Flash's was.
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008Zulu
12/17/17 7:14:29 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Boomerang didn't believe the bombs were real until Slipknot dies, after that they become reserved to their fates after the Witch goes postal.


In the movie, after Slip dies, Flag threatens Deadshot. Then they start to plot killing him despite Waller telling them they would die, before they entered the city proper.

UnfairRepresent posted...

He helped drag them out of the cells and knows how dangerous they are. Either he eavesdropped or put 2 and 2 together.


No prison guards were in or around when they were implanted, and Joker interrogated him before the bombs were implanted.
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 7:17:16 AM
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008Zulu posted...


No prison guards were in or around when they were implanted, and Joker interrogated him before the bombs were implanted.

Then it was probably his idea. He probably suggested it to Amanda after Deadshot pulled a gun on him and he was like "He's gonna do the same to once you take the leash off."

008Zulu posted...

In the movie, after Slip dies, Flag threatens Deadshot. Then they start to plot killing him despite Waller telling them they would die, before they entered the city proper.

He dies because Flag presses the button.

in that moment they think if they take out flag successfully, he won't be able to activate the bomb.

Boomerang was never an intellectual powerhouse
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synth_real
12/17/17 9:57:18 AM
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Behaviorism posted...
Also, there was absolutely no reason for Boomerang to return to the team. None.

So you don't think it's appropriate for a guy named Boomerang to return?
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Phantom_Nook
12/17/17 9:58:24 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
What about that one guy who just sorta showed up, long enough to get his neck exploded.

And his power was climbing walls.
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Doom_Art
12/17/17 10:01:19 AM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
And his power was climbing walls.

The man who can climb anything
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emblem boy
12/17/17 10:10:54 AM
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I thought he didn't want to shoot Batman because his daughter liked Batman and he didn't want her to see him fight and kill someone.
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UnfairRepresent
12/17/17 10:33:54 AM
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emblem boy posted...
I thought he didn't want to shoot Batman because his daughter liked Batman and he didn't want her to see him fight and kill someone.

Yes but BEFORE that he didn't take the shot because he thought he might hit his daughter. Telling her to move
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008Zulu
12/18/17 3:57:56 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Then it was probably his idea.


This idea from the same guard who was several hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to a mob run casino?

UnfairRepresent posted...

he won't be able to activate the bomb.


Yeah, and before they enter the city, when Waller is giving them the briefing, she says that she too controls the bombs.

Phantom_Nook posted...
The man who can climb anything


Was written in to a movie where the Big Boss is on the ground floor. That is some stellar writing from the production crew.
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UnfairRepresent
12/19/17 5:50:23 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
QH7f32y

Ugh

Joker was awful in that movie
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Darmik
12/19/17 5:53:46 PM
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Nicholson Joker and Ledger Joker are so damn quotable and fun to watch.

Suicide Squad Joker was just...no. He even had the whole damn Harley Quinn origin story and he still sucked.
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KazumaKiryu
12/19/17 5:54:47 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
What about that one guy who just sorta showed up, long enough to get his neck exploded.


I have a feeling that he was who they added in the reshoots they did. If you pay attention, in the main shots when the team is together, he's not there. Then he'll show up in a separate shot on the side of them. Like they thought they needed to show someone get killed by the neck bomb and added it all afterwards.
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darkphoenix181
12/19/17 5:58:32 PM
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the point was having Batman bleed all over his daughter is not a good thing
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Questionmarktarius
12/19/17 6:03:16 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
What about that one guy who just sorta showed up, long enough to get his neck exploded.


I have a feeling that he was who they added in the reshoots they did. If you pay attention, in the main shots when the team is together, he's not there. Then he'll show up in a separate shot on the side of them. Like they thought they needed to show someone get killed by the neck bomb and added it all afterwards.

...probably, yeah.
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UnfairRepresent
12/19/17 6:08:32 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
the point was having Batman bleed all over his daughter is not a good thing

Oh so she had moved and he shot Batman I'm sure none of that blood would have touched her at all.

It's shit writing
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myztikrice
12/19/17 6:14:52 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
What about that one guy who just sorta showed up, long enough to get his neck exploded.


I have a feeling that he was who they added in the reshoots they did. If you pay attention, in the main shots when the team is together, he's not there. Then he'll show up in a separate shot on the side of them. Like they thought they needed to show someone get killed by the neck bomb and added it all afterwards.

It's an integral part of the story/team that someone gets their head blown off to show Waller is serious, and the actor was talking about his role during principal photography. It wasn't reshoots, just bad writing
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Ushiromiya
12/19/17 6:16:56 PM
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It's really miniscule, but I was kinda annoyed by the flasback subway scene. They provided new information (about the bomb) that could have been given in the first scene.

Why didn't anyone in the DCU go to check out this catastrophic event.

Why was that sword so convenient.
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Darmik
12/19/17 6:17:12 PM
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It's so disappointing they went with a generic Avengers style climax for like 75% of the movie.

This concept could have been used for so much more. Instead we just saw them wondering around an abandoned city fighting faceless black henchmen who shatter.
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UnfairRepresent
12/19/17 6:21:05 PM
#41:


Darmik posted...
It's so disappointing they went with a generic Avengers style climax for like 75% of the movie.

This concept could have been used for so much more. Instead we just saw them wondering around an abandoned city fighting faceless black henchmen who shatter.

Yeah it's funny you mention that because people keep pointing this out and both Marvel and DC keep going "Lol don't care." and just doing incarnations of harmless zombies as fodder over and over.

Got writers who are being paid more than everyone in this topic combined and not a one of them is creative enough to think of more exciting opponents than "Zombie Canonfodder."

Even the Power Ranger Putties will be embarrased.
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12/19/17 6:23:24 PM
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twitterfriends
12/19/17 6:49:55 PM
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That's nitpicking like crazy also you're not giving enough credit to Batman for having bulletproof gear.
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UnfairRepresent
12/20/17 4:40:29 AM
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twitterfriends posted...
That's nitpicking like crazy also you're not giving enough credit to Batman for having bulletproof gear.

That makes it even worse.

It makes Deadshot's hole "OHHH I won't shot him cuz of u honee!" thing meaningless if he had shot him and it hadn't done a fucking thing

And also Deadshot didn't even realize shooting him wouldn't do a thing
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XplodnPnguins92
12/20/17 4:45:01 AM
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facepalmed hard when the random swordswoman joined for no reason.
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TheoryzC
12/20/17 5:05:08 AM
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It made narrative sense cause the story needed him in Belle Reve

And David Ayer is the sole writer of the movie. Said he wrote it in like 6 weeks
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UnfairRepresent
12/20/17 5:06:23 AM
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TheoryzC posted...


And David Ayer is the sole writer of the movie. Said he wrote it in like 6 hours


Fixed.
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