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UnfairRepresent
12/31/17 6:03:45 PM
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Ivanka Trump was accused of cultural appropriation during a visit to India after she reportedly wore clothes with Indian patterns that were made by Western designers.

The first daughter was pictured wearing a British-designed dress with oriental-style flowers, as well as two dresses made by American fashion designer Tory Burch. All of the dresses included embroidered patterns that were similar to Indian embroidery.

Following the trip, she was criticized by members of the Indian media -- including Vogue India senior editor Bandana Tewari.

"If Ivankas clothes are to be an acknowledgement of an ancient and rich culture like ours, especially as she arrives as a dignitary, then the sartorial tribute should be authentic in its intention," Tewari told The New York Times, Independent reported.

"We would rather see her wear a hand-woven sari made in our country or a handmade gown made in her own country. But to hybridize the two, in an era of unfiltered diversity, is a superfluous nod to half-acceptance."

New York Times fashion critic Vanessa Friedman also criticized the first daughter's fashion choices during her trip.

"The selections had echoes of orientalism and ornamentation -- just as Ms. Trumps choice of a kimono-inspired dress, complete with obi belt, by the Colombian designer Johanna Ortiz, did in Japan earlier this month," Friedman wrote. "And just as Melania Trumps Gucci gown with faux Chinese embroidery did during the Trumps state visit to China. Instead of wearing work by a designer that spoke to the nuances of the country (a tactic adopted often by Michelle Obama, for example), Ms. Trump opted, at least initially, for the most obvious: clothes by outsiders who dipped into their fantasy of India as opposed to its reality."

Ivanka Trump's visit to India also prompted confusion from locals, who noticed that during her visit to the city of Hyderabad, billboards with her face quickly went up and homeless people were removed from the streets.

"Ivanka may not be a household name here in India but her visit would certainly promote the India-U.S.A. business relationship in the informal way," local Damaynti Basu told NBC News. "This trip certainly helps her own promotion and also our city."

Many readers, despite the allegations of cultural appropriation, dismissed the criticism and defended the first daughter.

"No such thing as cultural appropriation. The expression was invented by social warriors looking for new ways of taking offense," one Independent reader commented. "Throughout history Western culture has taken elements from other cultures and cooperated them into its own. In fact most cultures, including the Indian culture, do the same."


Full Article: https://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/ivanka-trump-accused-cultural-appropriation

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DeanAuryn
12/31/17 6:06:13 PM
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Only in Trump's America.
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Offworlder1
12/31/17 6:06:54 PM
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There is nothing offensive about her choice of clothes, liberals will get pissy over literally everything, pathetic snowflakes.
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Mr_Biscuit
12/31/17 6:07:52 PM
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Im a liberal and cultural appropriation is some bullshit

Like okay if you dress up like a caricature to go to an Indiana game or Coachella, thats kinda shitty, but just wearing other cultures fashion is, like... were a melting pot, dudes
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Kazi1212
12/31/17 6:07:58 PM
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Godforbid people engage with and celebrate cultures not their own
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UnfairRepresent
12/31/17 6:08:34 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Godforbid people engage with and celebrate cultures not their own

Then how come she didn't wear Indian made clothes?
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LightningAce11
12/31/17 6:09:40 PM
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She looks nice. People shouldn't be pissed.

But then again, they wanted her to be dressed up in an authentic sari. Not a mix of Japanese and Indian.
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RexOrestes
12/31/17 6:10:27 PM
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Liherals at it again
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wackyteen
12/31/17 6:12:36 PM
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This is why Trump won
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Zikten
12/31/17 6:12:56 PM
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other countries that are less diverse culturally appropriate all the time. look at japan. they have all the same ethnic restaurants we do, but all the cooks there are Japanese. People complain at americans, but nobody ever complains about Japanese cooks making italian cooking
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wackyteen
12/31/17 6:13:35 PM
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Zikten posted...
other countries that are less diverse culturally appropriate all the time. look at japan. they have all the same ethnic restaurants we do, but all the cooks there are Japanese. People complain at americans, but nobody ever complains about Japanese cooks making italian cooking

Because it's not a big fucking deal

It's food
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Stupid Pirate Guy
12/31/17 6:13:45 PM
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The idea that cultural appropriation is a bad thing is some of the stupidest shit ever.
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Kazi1212
12/31/17 6:13:47 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Godforbid people engage with and celebrate cultures not their own

Then how come she didn't wear Indian made clothes?


I didnt realize appreciating other cultures meant you have to use products made by their people. I guess no white guy should ever get into the business of making Indian garments even if hes genuinely fascinated by them cuz people shouldnt buy Indian garments from said white guy
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Vicious_Dios
12/31/17 6:16:39 PM
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Libz are trying their hardest to break last year's record over dumb ass shit to be offended about. LMAO
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creativerealms
12/31/17 6:17:33 PM
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It's kind of dumb. America is a culture based on cultural appropriation. You would think liberals would know that better then anyone else. Our culture is made of the bits and pieces of other cultures, the stuff that was kept when they first came to America. Our culture is added to and changes as more people come to America. It's part of the reason I'm against the conservatives anti immigration platform.
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UnfairRepresent
12/31/17 6:17:35 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Libz are trying their hardest to break last year's record over dumb ass shit to be offended about. LMAO

I think Trump using a handrail to get off a plane can't be topped.
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Zikten
12/31/17 6:18:33 PM
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creativerealms posted...
It's kind of dumb. America is a culture based on cultural appropriation. You would think liberals would know that better then anyone else. Our culture is made of the bits and pieces of other cultures, the stuff that was kept when they first came to America. Our culture is added to and changes as more people come to America. It's part of the reason I'm against the conservatives anti immigration platform.

liberals believe in "seperate but equal" they want each culture to stay apart from the rest
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daftpunk_mk5
12/31/17 6:19:10 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Godforbid people engage with and celebrate cultures not their own

Then how come she didn't wear Indian made clothes?


Maybe she doesn't support child labor?

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Antifar
12/31/17 6:20:46 PM
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I can't imagine caring about what Ivanka Trump wears
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creativerealms
12/31/17 6:25:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
creativerealms posted...
It's kind of dumb. America is a culture based on cultural appropriation. You would think liberals would know that better then anyone else. Our culture is made of the bits and pieces of other cultures, the stuff that was kept when they first came to America. Our culture is added to and changes as more people come to America. It's part of the reason I'm against the conservatives anti immigration platform.

liberals believe in "seperate but equal" they want each culture to stay apart from the rest

Don't you dare tell me what I think.

I don't believe that's right. it's the right who constantly talking about separating groups for their own good. They hate race mixing.

Of course I don't know how the right thinks any more then you know how the left thinks.
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darkjedilink
12/31/17 6:37:17 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Zikten posted...
creativerealms posted...
It's kind of dumb. America is a culture based on cultural appropriation. You would think liberals would know that better then anyone else. Our culture is made of the bits and pieces of other cultures, the stuff that was kept when they first came to America. Our culture is added to and changes as more people come to America. It's part of the reason I'm against the conservatives anti immigration platform.

liberals believe in "seperate but equal" they want each culture to stay apart from the rest

Don't you dare tell me what I think.

I don't believe that's right. it's the right who constantly talking about separating groups for their own good. They hate race mixing.

Of course I don't know how the right thinks any more then you know how the left thinks.

BLM is literally demanding race-based segregation....
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Damn_Underscore
12/31/17 6:50:00 PM
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If you think "cultural appropriation" is a bad thing you are literally a racist
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TheCyborgNinja
12/31/17 6:52:25 PM
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Oh for fuck's sake.... Unless you're intentionally making a racist caricature of something by using its own stuff, like I.Y. Yunioshi, it doesn't count. Why not yell at anyone outside the west wearing blue jeans?! It's the same damn thing... SJWs are so fucking dumb. Can't the UN pass a resolution against them and finally have some worth?!
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ThanksUglyGod
12/31/17 6:58:44 PM
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This is old news, thanks for bringing it up again
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UnfairRepresent
12/31/17 7:22:09 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Oh for fuck's sake.... Unless you're intentionally making a racist caricature of something by using its own stuff, like I.Y. Yunioshi, it doesn't count. Why not yell at anyone outside the west wearing blue jeans?! It's the same damn thing... SJWs are so fucking dumb. Can't the UN pass a resolution against them and finally have some worth?!

So it's fine unless it offends you?
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kislev
12/31/17 7:24:43 PM
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wackyteen posted...
This is why Trump won

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HiddenRoar
12/31/17 7:40:33 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Zikten posted...
creativerealms posted...
It's kind of dumb. America is a culture based on cultural appropriation. You would think liberals would know that better then anyone else. Our culture is made of the bits and pieces of other cultures, the stuff that was kept when they first came to America. Our culture is added to and changes as more people come to America. It's part of the reason I'm against the conservatives anti immigration platform.

liberals believe in "seperate but equal" they want each culture to stay apart from the rest

Don't you dare tell me what I think.

I don't believe that's right. it's the right who constantly talking about separating groups for their own good. They hate race mixing.

Of course I don't know how the right thinks any more then you know how the left thinks.


Hmm, which group is making a scene out of this incident? Conservatives or Liberals, hmm?

Not to mention Oberlin college students making a scene about cultural appropriation of food, or this bit fresh from the Washington Compost:

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The show was supposed to bring black and white students together. It almost tore them apart.

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Illuminoius
12/31/17 7:43:40 PM
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"cultural appropriation" is, excluding things like religious symbols, the dumbest thing to complain about
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SpreadManning
12/31/17 7:43:45 PM
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Lib beards are insane
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008Zulu
12/31/17 7:52:22 PM
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She can either wear a Sari made by Indian child labor, or one made by child labor of another country. I don't think the country of origin is the issue people need to focus on.
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UnfairRepresent
12/31/17 7:58:58 PM
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Illuminoius posted...
"cultural appropriation" is, excluding things like religious symbols, the dumbest thing to complain about


So it's fine unless it offends you?
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Illuminoius
12/31/17 8:04:31 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So it's fine unless it offends you?

have you ever made an argument where you respond to people's actual posts
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UnfairRepresent
01/01/18 2:10:19 PM
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Illuminoius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
So it's fine unless it offends you?

have you ever made an argument where you respond to people's actual posts

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Samurontai
01/01/18 2:11:47 PM
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wackyteen posted...
This is why Trump won


No, he won because a good portion of Americans are naive and stupid
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UnfairRepresent
01/01/18 2:14:08 PM
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Samurontai posted...
wackyteen posted...
This is why Trump won


No, he won because a good portion of Americans are naive and stupid

AKA, "Disagree with me."
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Samurontai
01/01/18 2:15:09 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Samurontai posted...
wackyteen posted...
This is why Trump won


No, he won because a good portion of Americans are naive and stupid

AKA, "Disagree with me."


No, not at all
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Unsugarized_Foo
01/01/18 2:15:33 PM
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Guys, this matters.

Imagine if an Indian came to the US sporting Western themes by an Indian designer. We would lose our shit.
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FigureOfSpeech
01/01/18 2:16:22 PM
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I'm a liberal and I'm only furious at Ivanka trump for me not being inside her right now.
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Caution999
01/01/18 2:20:10 PM
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The CTRL left at it again -_-
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