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DarkDragon400 01/03/18 11:51:38 PM #52:	Mizznox posted... Godnorgosh posted... What is the actual security risk here? Like, what could happen to a processor without a patch? Going off of this... Alucard188 posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/7nthay/a_quick_summary_of_the_current_intel_cpu_bug/ If successfully exploited, it could allow any program running on your computer (including a webpage with JavaScript) to access memory used by the operating system, giving it total control over your computer. That's not actually true as far as I can tell. The impact of the bug seems to be that it can be used to determine memory layout of the kernel. This doesn't actually allow an attacker to take control of your computer, but it makes it significantly easier to exploit other kernel vulnerabilities which can be used to gain complete access to your machine. --- http://i.imgur.com/Zkq2JUS.png http://i.imgur.com/AS9KUto.jpg <cite>DarkDragon400 posted [p:893387261] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mizznox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>What is the actual security risk here? Like, what could happen to a processor without a patch?</quote> Going off of this... <cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/7nthay/a_quick_summary_of_the_current_intel_cpu_bug/ </quote> If successfully exploited, it could allow any program running on your computer (including a webpage with JavaScript) to access memory used by the operating system, giving it total control over your computer.</quote> That's not actually true as far as I can tell. The impact of the bug seems to be that it can be used to determine memory layout of the kernel. This doesn't actually allow an attacker to take control of your computer, but it makes it significantly easier to exploit other kernel vulnerabilities which can be used to gain complete access to your machine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 01/04/18 4:12:27 AM #53:	Sami1000 posted... I read it doesn't affect gaming, just The bug will impact big-name cloud computing environments including Amazon EC2, Microsoft Azure, and Google Compute Engine, said a software developer Still, its very bad sign when CEO apparently sold lots of his stocks Wait he sold stocks just before this hit? Lmao shit like that is so shady --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:893395648] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>I read it doesn't affect gaming, just <quote>The bug will impact big-name cloud computing environments including Amazon EC2, Microsoft Azure, and Google Compute Engine, said a software developer</quote> Still, its very bad sign when CEO apparently sold lots of his stocks</quote> Wait he sold stocks just before this hit? Lmao shit like that is so shady</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/04/18 4:24:28 AM #54:	IBM: laughs --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893395894] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>IBM: laughs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 01/04/18 4:45:20 AM #55:	Starks posted... There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:893396277] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>Starks posted...</cite> <quote>There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution</quote> Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 01/04/18 4:48:48 AM #56:	implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:893396344] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 01/04/18 4:48:52 AM #57:	Allanon23 posted... I've never been happier to have an AMD processor. --- http://i.imgur.com/x7j6mQ8.jpg <cite>Chicken posted [p:893396348] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>Allanon23 posted...</cite> <quote>I've never been happier to have an AMD processor.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 01/04/18 4:58:33 AM #58:	P4wn4g3 posted... Starks posted... There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly. They specified in the link you quoted. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:893396528] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Starks posted...</cite> <quote>There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution</quote> Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly.</quote> They specified in the link you quoted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 01/04/18 4:59:47 AM #59:	ChromaticAngel posted... P4wn4g3 posted... Starks posted... There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly. They specified in the link you quoted. Negligible expected isn't a number. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:893396543] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>P4wn4g3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Starks posted...</cite> <quote>There are 3 variants of this vulnerability. AMD is vulnerable to one of them. https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution</quote> Ah, well then. I guess they aren't wanting to specify how much of an impact this will make exactly.</quote> They specified in the link you quoted.</quote> Negligible expected isn't a number.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letron_James 01/04/18 5:01:33 AM #60:	Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:893396581] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 01/04/18 5:20:40 AM #61:	Raises the AMD flag --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:893396938] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>Raises the AMD flag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trayvon 01/04/18 5:50:57 AM #62:	How does this fix work? is it a temporary solution that will have a slowdown of up to 30% or will there eventually be a more efficient and stable fix later down the track --- https://i.imgtc.com/OxPM6Sj.jpg <cite>Trayvon posted [p:893397489] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>How does this fix work? is it a temporary solution that will have a slowdown of up to 30% or will there eventually be a more efficient and stable fix later down the track</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fantastein 01/04/18 5:55:17 AM #63:	Ugh. I just bought an i5 7600k yesterday. :( --- Son of a submariner! <cite>Fantastein posted [p:893397584] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>Ugh. I just bought an i5 7600k yesterday. :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 01/04/18 8:07:23 AM #64:	Letron_James posted... Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase That's my chip, is it not effected? @Letron_James --- Oda break tracker 2017- 9 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:893400567] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>Letron_James posted...</cite> <quote>Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase</quote> That's my chip, is it not effected? @Letron_James</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 01/04/18 8:15:02 AM #65:	What part of "every Intel chip" is hard to understand? --- This space for rent <cite>Starks posted [p:893400786] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>What part of "every Intel chip" is hard to understand?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letron_James 01/04/18 11:32:51 AM #66:	voldothegr8 posted... Letron_James posted... Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase That's my chip, is it not effected? @Letron_James Actually yeah it is :/ Fuck you intel --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:893408425] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Letron_James posted...</cite> <quote>Jokes on you My i5 6600k is looking more like a value purchase</quote> That's my chip, is it not effected? @Letron_James</quote> Actually yeah it is :/ Fuck you intel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sylverlolol 01/04/18 11:41:16 AM #67:	ModLogic posted... implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with PC gaming accounted for ~1% less sales last year compared to the next highest console. Its mainstream, bruh, get over it lmao --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. <cite>sylverlolol posted [p:893408874] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with</quote> PC gaming accounted for ~1% less sales last year compared to the next highest console. Its mainstream, bruh, get over it lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkDragon400 01/04/18 1:29:43 PM #68:	http://www.tomshardware.com/news/meltdown-spectre-exploits-intel-amd-arm-nvidia,36219.html --- http://i.imgur.com/Zkq2JUS.png http://i.imgur.com/AS9KUto.jpg <cite>DarkDragon400 posted [p:893414433] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>http://www.tomshardware.com/news/meltdown-spectre-exploits-intel-amd-arm-nvidia,36219.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkDragon400 01/04/18 1:41:46 PM #69:	https://twitter.com/misc0110/status/948706387491786752 --- http://i.imgur.com/Zkq2JUS.png http://i.imgur.com/AS9KUto.jpg <cite>DarkDragon400 posted [p:893415063] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/misc0110/status/948706387491786752</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 01/04/18 2:27:15 PM #70:	sylverlolol posted... ModLogic posted... implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with PC gaming accounted for ~1% less sales last year compared to the next highest console. Its mainstream, bruh, get over it lmao lol pc "gaming" eveb mobile gaming is more legit --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:893417496] in PC gaming ... [t:76164918]...</cite> <quote><cite>sylverlolol posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>implying pc gaming is a thing to begin with</quote> PC gaming accounted for ~1% less sales last year compared to the next highest console. Its mainstream, bruh, get over it lmao</quote> lol pc "gaming" eveb mobile gaming is more legit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > PC gaming = done. Intel design flaw, fix will decrease performance up to 30%