Poll of the Day > Teacher arrested for questioning the system

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Google wbir, death threat, school board and handcuffed
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I seen it. I don't know what that cop was thinking.
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sounds like other board members there have been questioning what that superintendent does for a while now, too
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Here's some links. Pick your poison.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/09/teacher-removed-from-school-board-meeting-in-handcuffs/
https://globalnews.ca/news/3953842/louisiana-teacher-arrested-after-questioning-pay-raises-at-school-board-meeting/
http://www.katc.com/story/37220702/teacher-who-was-removed-from-vermilion-school-board-meeting-in-handcuffs-booked-into-jail
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/teacher-arrested-louisiana.html
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America the beautiful

"well in other countries you dont go to jail for asking questions..... er wait."

"well you dont get arrested for following consent laws of a patient.... oh... yeah"

"well you dont get shot in the street from goverment thugs.... hmm"

"uhh... well. you dont go to jail for collecting rain water on your own property... shit"

"well there arent gangs of people with torches who wish death upon large groups of the population... son OF A BITCH!!!"

"wel they cant just seize your property and then use or sell it... even without a court date?... you HAVE GOT to be shitting me."
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She should have gone to the local paper. Going to the school board does nothing.

Watch some of the other board meeting videos. That Fontana guy is a colossal piece of shit excuse of a human being. Almost everyone on that board needs to be fired except the black dude and the two women.
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faramir77 posted...

Watch some of the other board meeting videos. That Fontana guy is a colossal piece of shit excuse of a human being. Almost everyone on that board needs to be fired except the black dude and the two women.

Based on how much attention the story is getting, someone probably will be fired.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/10/577010534/outcry-after-louisiana-teacher-arrested-during-school-board-meeting

A Louisiana teacher questioned whether the superintendent should receive a raise. Then, she was ushered out of a school board meeting and handcuffed.

The dramatic arrest on Monday which was caught on video has drawn outrage in the U.S. and beyond. The Vermilion Parish School Board offices were locked down on Tuesday after receiving threats, board president Anthony Fontana told The Daily Advertiser in Lafayette, La.

The Vermilion Parish teacher, Deyshia Hargrave, will not face charges.

"I have reviewed the video, and I am not going to approve any charges against the teacher," Ike Funderburk, the city attorney in Abbeville, the parish seat, told KATC. "I have talked with the attorney for the school board. They do not wish to pursue any charges against the teacher."

Since it was posted to YouTube on Monday, the video has been viewed more than 1.7 million times.

During a public comment period at the board meeting, Hargrave stood up and voiced opposition to superintendent Jerome Puyau receiving a raise.

"I have a serious issue with a superintendent or any person in a position of leadership getting any type of raise," she said calmly. "It's absurd that we're even considering giving someone a raise when these teachers are working this hard and not getting a dime."

The board then voted to approve the raise for Puyau, reportedly moving his salary from around $110,000 to more than $140,000.

At that point, Hargrave addressed the room again. "How are you even going to take a raise?" she asked. "It's basically taking our money."

At that point, a security officer, later identified as a deputy city marshal paid by the school board, approached Hargrave and asked her to leave the meeting. "You're going to leave or I'm going to remove you. Take your things and go," he said.

She asked whether it was against policy to stand as she spoke and pointed out that the board was directly addressing her. She then complied with the officer's request and walked out of the room.

Seconds later, the video shows the security officer forcibly putting Hargrave in handcuffs as other teachers voice outrage.

"What are you doing, can you explain?" Hargrave asks.

"Stop resisting," the officer replies.

"I am not, you just pushed me to the floor," the teacher says.

Outside, the officer says he gave her "many directives to leave" and ushers her into the back of a police vehicle.

Hargrave was booked into jail overnight, according to KATC, even though the superintendent said that "shortly after the meeting that he had called to inform police that the system didn't want any charges pressed."

The city appears to be distancing itself from the officer. Funderburk, the city's attorney, emphasized in his statement that the officer "is not acting in any official capacity on behalf of the city of Abbeville." He also stressed that "the city of Abbeville has absolutely nothing to do with the events of the other night."

The ACLU of Louisiana said Hargrave's expulsion from the meeting and arrest "are unacceptable and raise serious constitutional concerns." It adds: "The Constitution prohibits the government from punishing or retaliating against people for expressing their views, and the fact that a schoolteacher was arrested at a public meeting of the school board is especially troubling."

Fontana defended the officer's behavior in a statement to KATC.

"If a teacher has the authority to send a student, who is acting up and she can't control, out of the classroom to the principal's office, under our policy we have the same rules," Fontana said. He added that the officer "did exactly what he was hired to do. He followed the procedures completely. She's the one who made the choices that got her arrested."

Two board members have complained that the board does not treat women fairly, according to The Associated Press.

"No reason for anyone to be treated this way. So far in three years, only women have been removed from board room meetings," board member Sara Duplechain told the wire service.

You think you can question me? I'll take your opposition...
and THROW IT ON THE GROUND!
Do not question my system
This is MY money not yours, man
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Protip: Police can charge you with resisting arrest even if you are a vegetable because your force of gravity was higher than their effort.

Pro-protip: If a police officer is violating the law, you are legally allowed to arrest THEM

Pro-pro-protip: Don't though, 'cuz 'murica
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Hargrave was called upon a second time for a statement, but ruled out of order by Fontana, explaining that the board was not taking questions.

At that point, she should've dropped it and taken her case online or somewhere other than the schoolboard.

Also, she seems to be using her own personal experience to justify why she should be receiving a raise, but wages are universal across the district. At least, they are in most cases. If the board doesn't think enough schools are improving on a large enough basis, then it's fair to deny them raises. I find it hard to believe that she hasn't received any sort of yearly raise. The standard is typically a percent or two.

As for the arrest itself, we have no idea what happened in the hallway or before the video started recording. The board could have ruled her out of order for being disruptive or simply not allowing the meeting to progress.

I still have questions about the superintendent(it sounds hella fishy) and the arrest, but there really isn't enough here to immediately take sides with the "victim".

@green_dragon
@PK_Spam
You guys are teachers, right? Can you verify that second paragraph?
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

Hargrave was called upon a second time for a statement, but ruled out of order by Fontana, explaining that the board was not taking questions.

At that point, she should've dropped it and taken her case online or somewhere other than the schoolboard.

Also, she seems to be using her own personal experience to justify why she should be receiving a raise, but wages are universal across the district. At least, they are in most cases. If the board doesn't think enough schools are improving on a large enough basis, then it's fair to deny them raises. I find it hard to believe that she hasn't received any sort of yearly raise. The standard is typically a percent or two.

As for the arrest itself, we have no idea what happened in the hallway or before the video started recording. The board could have ruled her out of order for being disruptive or simply not allowing the meeting to progress.

I still have questions about the superintendent(it sounds hella fishy) and the arrest, but there really isn't enough here to immediately take sides with the "victim".

green_dragon
PK_Spam
You guys are teachers, right? Can you verify that second paragraph?

Whoa, hold right the fuck up!

I havent talked about wanting to be a teacher here in YEEEEAAAARRRRSSS. And that was on the old account I closed. And I know for certain that I havent talked about it since 2015, because I made the decision to change my major right at that moment.

How the hell did you know to connect me to being a teacher?

ANYWAY, in my experience, pay is determined by the school, and most schools just tend to take on the same pay rate per district because of a bunch of reasons thatd take too long to talk about. (most) charter schools tend to pay better, but again that depends.
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BTW: The superintendents raise is more than I make in a year
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Yeah, I worked in a school for a period of time.

Like, half of the young teachers bang each other over break, and the admins basically try to make teachers lives a living hell all the time. At least, thats the notion I got from my mentor teacher during my time working.
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PK_Spam posted...

Krow_Incarnate posted...

Hargrave was called upon a second time for a statement, but ruled out of order by Fontana, explaining that the board was not taking questions.

At that point, she should've dropped it and taken her case online or somewhere other than the schoolboard.

Also, she seems to be using her own personal experience to justify why she should be receiving a raise, but wages are universal across the district. At least, they are in most cases. If the board doesn't think enough schools are improving on a large enough basis, then it's fair to deny them raises. I find it hard to believe that she hasn't received any sort of yearly raise. The standard is typically a percent or two.

As for the arrest itself, we have no idea what happened in the hallway or before the video started recording. The board could have ruled her out of order for being disruptive or simply not allowing the meeting to progress.

I still have questions about the superintendent(it sounds hella fishy) and the arrest, but there really isn't enough here to immediately take sides with the "victim".

green_dragon
PK_Spam
You guys are teachers, right? Can you verify that second paragraph?

Whoa, hold right the fuck up!

I havent talked about wanting to be a teacher here in YEEEEAAAARRRRSSS. And that was on the old account I closed. And I know for certain that I havent talked about it since 2015, because I made the decision to change my major right at that moment.

How the hell did you know to connect me to being a teacher?

ANYWAY, in my experience, pay is determined by the school, and most schools just tend to take on the same pay rate per district because of a bunch of reasons thatd take too long to talk about. (most) charter schools tend to pay better, but again that depends.

Okay, got it. Thanks. My Mom's a teacher and has taught in Ohio and Florida, and she's told me in the past it goes by the district. But it's entirely possible that the schools she's worked at just adopted the pay rate like you said.

As for me knowing, I can't really remember. I think you made a topic about it being your last day somewhere. And yeah, it was definitely on your Shark account. I was actually worried you weren't who I thought you were when I tagged you lol
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PK_Spam posted...

and the admins basically try to make teachers lives a living hell all the time.

I can verify this. My Mom has taught at seven different schools(off the top of my head), and she's really only ever had administrative support when she worked at Oakridge of all places. The administration in her new school is the worst she's ever had, rivaling that of Brookehaven.
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@green_dragon is an actual teacher and probably knows way more about the current status of public schools than I do, with my dated knowledge from 2014-15
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