Poll of the Day > This 28 y/o XBOX Gamer Shot his MOM in the Head cause she SNAPPED his HEADSET!!!

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Babbit55
01/15/18 6:38:54 AM
#51:


MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Cause easy access to guns isn't a problem right?


MannerSaurus posted...

How was it "easily available?" It was either:

A.) Purchased legally with a background check at a licensed dealer, and was given a 1-5 day wait period (depending on the state.)
B.) Purchased legally with a concealed weapons permit with a background check at a licensed dealer, and had no wait period.
C.) Was purchased illegally, which means there is no law that would have prevented him from having it.

The guy is a sick piece of shit, but I'm not sure what your angle is here on "easily available gun."


Because buying guns from trade shows requires any of that and is still legal. Also if guns were not so easy to access in the first place, they would be MUCH harder to access illegally. Also the vast majority of people would not go out of there way to own a gun illegally.

Finally, because allowing tools of war into the general populace is a great idea right?!?!?!

And those "Background checks" go so far, and they would never leave the gun in the hands of someone mentally unstable, or given he was at home, even if he personally couldn't buy a gun, there is no way he might have easy access to one owned by a family members.
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MannerSaurus
01/15/18 9:23:09 AM
#52:


Babbit55 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Cause easy access to guns isn't a problem right?


MannerSaurus posted...

How was it "easily available?" It was either:

A.) Purchased legally with a background check at a licensed dealer, and was given a 1-5 day wait period (depending on the state.)
B.) Purchased legally with a concealed weapons permit with a background check at a licensed dealer, and had no wait period.
C.) Was purchased illegally, which means there is no law that would have prevented him from having it.

The guy is a sick piece of shit, but I'm not sure what your angle is here on "easily available gun."


Because buying guns from trade shows requires any of that and is still legal.

Finally, because allowing tools of war into the general populace is a great idea right?!?!


Tools of war? No one owns any modern military assault rifles in this country, and only a select few own older assault rifles (which requires SERIOUS background work for an expensive Class 3 tax stamp, and months to a year of processing.) The AR-15 has never been issued to any military force in the history of the world. It is literally completely impossible to legally own a modern M4 or M16. Unless you mean like military issued pistols like the M9, which is literally just a regular 92x Beretta. Nothing special about it. What tools of war are you referring to? Also, all gun show sales from anything other than a private person DO require a background check. Also, it is a felony to leave a weapon within reach of a criminal or mentally unstable person. Responsible gun owners have their weapons locked up anytime they aren't in full control of them.
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Babbit55
01/15/18 9:29:28 AM
#53:


MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
Cause easy access to guns isn't a problem right?


MannerSaurus posted...

How was it "easily available?" It was either:

A.) Purchased legally with a background check at a licensed dealer, and was given a 1-5 day wait period (depending on the state.)
B.) Purchased legally with a concealed weapons permit with a background check at a licensed dealer, and had no wait period.
C.) Was purchased illegally, which means there is no law that would have prevented him from having it.

The guy is a sick piece of shit, but I'm not sure what your angle is here on "easily available gun."


Because buying guns from trade shows requires any of that and is still legal.

Finally, because allowing tools of war into the general populace is a great idea right?!?!


Tools of war? No one owns any modern military assault rifles in this country, and only a select few own older assault rifles (which requires SERIOUS background work for an expensive Class 3 tax stamp, and months to a year of processing.) The AR-15 has never been issued to any military force in the history of the world. It is literally completely impossible to legally own a modern M4 or M16. Unless you mean like military issued pistols like the M9, which is literally just a regular 92x Beretta. Nothing special about it. What tools of war are you referring to? Also, all gun show sales from anything other than a private person DO require a background check. Also, it is a felony to leave a weapon within reach of a criminal or mentally unstable person. Responsible gun owners have their weapons locked up anytime they aren't in full control of them.


Give me 1 good reason for owning a firearm (That is not either "Personal defence" because they are actually detrimental for that studies have shown) or Hunting (Because none of those guns would be any good for hunting)

If you say "sport" or "Hobby shooting" Why do you need to own it? It could easily be kept under lock and key securely at the shooting club. No need to keep it at home.
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waterdeepchu
01/15/18 9:48:48 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Libertarian.


LOL The "Everyone else is wrong and only I can be right!" party. Go back to watching South Park.
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RoboXgp89
01/15/18 10:06:33 AM
#55:


guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio
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Babbit55
01/15/18 10:09:23 AM
#56:


RoboXgp89 posted...
guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio


You wouldn't hunt a bear or even a dear with a AR-15 though (you also wouldn't use a bump stock for it too!)

You would take a high powered, bolt action rife. You know, the gun designed more for hunting and accuracy instead of putting as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can.
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RoboXgp89
01/15/18 10:13:04 AM
#57:


A bear came on Hunter S Thompson's neighbors property and he shot the ground so the bird shot or whatever he was using ricocheted off the ground and nipped it in the butt. It ran off. They're basically giant dogs when they aren't moody or hungry. One of the shrapnel hit the woman though and the papers went crazy, reporting a deranged man shot a woman.
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MannerSaurus
01/15/18 11:51:14 AM
#58:


Babbit55 posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio


You wouldn't hunt a bear or even a dear with a AR-15 though (you also wouldn't use a bump stock for it too!)

You would take a high powered, bolt action rife. You know, the gun designed more for hunting and accuracy instead of putting as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can.


@RoboXgp89 @Babbit55 I can tell you literally know almost nothing about firearms. You are extremely uneducated and ignorant in this subject, so it bothers me that you have such a strong opinion when you are simply parroting (factually incorrect) talking points from angry soccer mom media.

For starters, the AR-15 platform that was developed by ArmaLite/Colt and turned into a select fire assault rifle for the U.S. Military was not designed to "put as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can." You have no idea how ignorant you sound right now. The M16 rifle was issued (and modernized with the M4 carbine and improved M16's such as the A2 and A3) to replace larger heavier battle rifles issued to troops such as the M14. The M16 was designed to waste less ammunition, especially with the M16A2 improvements (introducing controlled "accurate" bursts, over fully automatic fire) and was designed to be lighter and easier to carry. Weapons designed for "laying down as many bullets as you can" are machine guns (which the M4/M16 is not) such as open bolt belt fed weapons, that an operator may lay suppressive fire to keep the threat pinned down during an engagement. You don't just fire as many rounds as you can from an assault rifle or civilian rifle, that is a huge dangerous waste of ammunition. It is designed for accuracy and putting down targets in close to medium range engagements. The AR-15 civilian rifle/carbine and the military assault rifles based on its platform in semi-automatic mode can literally only fire as fast as any other pistol rifle or shotgun ever made that is semi-automatic (manual bolt control like pump/lever/"bolt"/break obviously don't count here.) The action isn't some magical super fast cycling mechanism, it is essentially the same thing as any personal handgun. Of course the innards are a little different (gas or piston operation, which to my knowledge, the Desert Eagle pistol is the only handgun that has/requires this), but is still the same end result and firing speed.

Oh, and yes owning a gun is for self defense. You parrot, yet again, another false talking point from the media. I hate to say this, but you sound completely brainwashed... but I'm just going to go with uneducated and ignorant and give you the benefit of the doubt. I literally read news articles 20 times a week about someone else being saved from rape or a break in or assault/murder because of a good person with a firearm. If you want, I can start posting them. :)

Anyways, gonna go clean my AR-15 and my 12 gauge security shotgun. When someone kicks down your door with murder in their eyes, make sure you tell them you called 911 and police will be there in 15-25 minutes.
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Babbit55
01/15/18 12:00:49 PM
#59:


MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio


You wouldn't hunt a bear or even a dear with a AR-15 though (you also wouldn't use a bump stock for it too!)

You would take a high powered, bolt action rife. You know, the gun designed more for hunting and accuracy instead of putting as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can.


Snip


I live in England, literally do not have to worry about someone packing heat.

If only scientific studies agreed with you..

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-increases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed/

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/01/good_guy_with_a_gun_myth_guns_increase_the_risk_of_homicide_accidents_suicide.html

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/160/10/929/140858
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MannerSaurus
01/15/18 12:13:41 PM
#60:


Babbit55 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio


You wouldn't hunt a bear or even a dear with a AR-15 though (you also wouldn't use a bump stock for it too!)

You would take a high powered, bolt action rife. You know, the gun designed more for hunting and accuracy instead of putting as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can.


Snip

I live in England, literally do not have to worry about someone packing heat.

If only scientific studies agreed with you..


Alright. I didn't feel like doing this. But here we go.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/11/09/hero-pulls-gun-stop-woman-raped-austin-trail

http://www.icarry.org/article567.html

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/elderly-homeowner-uses-gun-defend-himself-during-home-invasion

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/09/california-homeowner-uses-gun-stop-violent-intruder/

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2016/12/deer-rifle-shooting/

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article183054061.html

https://concealednation.org/2016/05/gas-station-robbery-stopped-by-armed-citizen/

http://concealednation.org/2015/06/woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-robber-at-tx-gas-station/

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/concealed-carrier-prevents-gas-station-robbery-in-florida/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/01/police-concealed-carry-license-holder-kills-armed-gunman.html

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/30/concealed-permit-holder-stops-attempted-mass-shooting-in-south-carolina/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt9GQnBhw6A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv6_cukH5h0


I literally have thousands and thousands more. Just let me know.
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bulbinking
01/15/18 12:39:50 PM
#61:


Nu-male born to 40 year old ex-hippe goes crazy getting addicted to the only bastion left in the western world where you are allowed to be aggressive and kills his family when its taken away/discounted by his caretakers.

Sad, but not surprising in even the slightest.

Edit: okay so the dad is in his 80s, so some weird family dynamic going on there maybe she was a young trophy wife. In situations like this the whole family is usually fucked up in some way mo matter what they present to the media.
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RoboXgp89
01/15/18 12:43:09 PM
#62:


she broke his headset
he shot her wall
she told him she was kicking him out
bang she's dead
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Revelation34
01/15/18 3:00:26 PM
#63:


RoboXgp89 posted...
but to call it mental illness is just stupid, to drug the amount of children they drug is just stupid and neglectful


Vaccines cause autism obviously.

RoboXgp89 posted...
comp sci and IT


Oh the irony. Neither of those are medical degrees.
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RoboXgp89
01/15/18 11:07:41 PM
#64:


tell me I'm lying then
the people who sell these 'mental health' drugs are pieces of shit
there are no such things as mental health problems if there were they would physically kill the person, which is why the word 'health' is there
parkinsons is a mental health problem, alzheimers is a mental health problem, is living in your mothers basement and being a lazy dipshit a mental health problem? to them it is, most of these people with mental health problems have them because of economic reasons or relationship problems. it has nothing to do with their brain.

they always give mental health drugs to old people and then withen months the old people can't even stand up straight, they're talking in slurs and they're dying of heart attacks
my grandfather was tall and lean and worked most of his life and then those amateurs started giving him drugs and he died of a heart attack before my overweight grandmother who couldn't even walk she was so old, she lived longer then he did and died of dehyrdation and the resulting infection from being in a nursing home
my other grandpa now has what they call 'falls' guy is 100 years old and bust his ass constantly and can't remember shit since they started giving him these pills to 'help his memory' why the fuck is he busting his ass so much then?
"mental health," shove it up your ass

http://www.canhr.org/stop-drugging/archives/1193
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samuricex
01/15/18 11:39:26 PM
#65:


28 years old, living in his parents home, screaming at (most likely teenagers) other people online in a video game... SMH.

No, I've never yelled at or had a screaming match against anyone online. If you're getting mad playing video games, maybe it's time to turn it off and go do something else.
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CacciatoPart2
01/16/18 1:27:46 AM
#66:


To be fair, if the only difference between an AR-15 and an M4 is semi/burst, then theyre the same weapon. Literally almost no one uses anything other than semi-auto in real life when you have an M4.
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Revelation34
01/16/18 2:06:30 AM
#67:


RoboXgp89 posted...
tell me I'm lying then
the people who sell these 'mental health' drugs are pieces of shit
there are no such things as mental health problems if there were they would physically kill the person, which is why the word 'health' is there
parkinsons is a mental health problem, alzheimers is a mental health problem, is living in your mothers basement and being a lazy dipshit a mental health problem? to them it is, most of these people with mental health problems have them because of economic reasons or relationship problems. it has nothing to do with their brain.

they always give mental health drugs to old people and then withen months the old people can't even stand up straight, they're talking in slurs and they're dying of heart attacks
my grandfather was tall and lean and worked most of his life and then those amateurs started giving him drugs and he died of a heart attack before my overweight grandmother who couldn't even walk she was so old, she lived longer then he did and died of dehyrdation and the resulting infection from being in a nursing home
my other grandpa now has what they call 'falls' guy is 100 years old and bust his ass constantly and can't remember shit since they started giving him these pills to 'help his memory' why the fuck is he busting his ass so much then?
"mental health," shove it up your ass

http://www.canhr.org/stop-drugging/archives/1193


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anecdotal But I don't believe you anyway.
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RoboXgp89
01/16/18 2:26:05 AM
#68:


quack
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Revelation34
01/16/18 2:28:39 AM
#69:


RoboXgp89 posted...
quack


I can't be a quack since I'm not a doctor. Where did you get your medical degree from?
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CacciatoPart2
01/16/18 2:32:46 AM
#70:


RoboXgp89 posted...
quack

Again, this is why nobody takes you seriously.
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Babbit55
01/16/18 4:11:23 AM
#71:


MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
guns are good for getting rid of bears and mountain lions, people that own animals might want to have them around, keeping the deer population down when they start to over run the streets and cause accidents, certain types of bullets are good for small game

a hand gun is a tool for assassination, I'd agree with that. the numbers don't lie. far less homicides in NY then ohio


You wouldn't hunt a bear or even a dear with a AR-15 though (you also wouldn't use a bump stock for it too!)

You would take a high powered, bolt action rife. You know, the gun designed more for hunting and accuracy instead of putting as many rounds into someone as quickly as you can.


Snip

I live in England, literally do not have to worry about someone packing heat.

If only scientific studies agreed with you..


Alright. I didn't feel like doing this. But here we go.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2017/11/09/hero-pulls-gun-stop-woman-raped-austin-trail

http://www.icarry.org/article567.html

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/elderly-homeowner-uses-gun-defend-himself-during-home-invasion

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2014/09/california-homeowner-uses-gun-stop-violent-intruder/

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2016/12/deer-rifle-shooting/

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article183054061.html

https://concealednation.org/2016/05/gas-station-robbery-stopped-by-armed-citizen/

http://concealednation.org/2015/06/woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-robber-at-tx-gas-station/

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/concealed-carrier-prevents-gas-station-robbery-in-florida/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/01/police-concealed-carry-license-holder-kills-armed-gunman.html

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/30/concealed-permit-holder-stops-attempted-mass-shooting-in-south-carolina/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt9GQnBhw6A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv6_cukH5h0


I literally have thousands and thousands more. Just let me know.


Ah yes, those few good ones. How about all the ones of toddlers killing people with hand guns?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/trump-muslim-terrorists-gun-violence-america-deaths

Or the practically monthly mass shootings? I am sure I don't need to link those.

You guys are so used to gun deaths, it only really gets reported when it is a major one, America has a problem with guns.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2879650/Study-shows-annual-gun-deaths-United-States-catching-killed-car-crashes.html
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 11:00:27 AM
#72:


Babbit55 posted...
America has a problem with guns.


@Babbit55 We are going to have to agree to disagree, because I will never back down on this, and I will never surrender my weapons. Self defense and the ability to protect your loved ones from harm is a God given right, and the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America ensures the government cannot try to limit it. The British government literally tried to enforce gun control over the colonies in 1765. Guess how it turned out? (Obviously, that was only one of many things going on that year, but it WAS a thing.)

My firearm has become a factor in defending me and my late wife's life on at least one occasion, (fortunately I didn't have to fire it, but the guy could have had a knife and I would have if he didn't take my warnings seriously. He backed off, and police handled it from there.) Owning a firearm is ingrained in American culture, and like I said, literally part of the founding of this country. I own weapons to protect my family from criminals, and I own weapons to protect my family from oppressive military action (such as if Korea invaded by foot. Obviously my carbine doesn't mean anything versus a missile or tank, lol.) Do you know a Japanese military leader literally said they couldn't invade America by land because the citizens are armed? I take pride in that. Generally speaking, if someone broke in to my house, I would almost always be grabbing my 12 gauge pump shotgun over my AR-15. But what about the guy who tagged the mass shooter in Texas and made chase? The media literally demonized the weapon the shooter used, but barely any news article mentioned that the hero was using the same platform, because that wouldn't fit their agenda. Or what about the two men that protected an elderly shop keeper during the riots, armed with AR-15 carbines or rifles? That's selfless and brave acts with a more adequate weapon for that scenario. It is very possible, (and I am hopeful) that I will go my whole life without ever having to fire a weapon in self defense. But I will not be caught with my pants down. I know a girl in England who got raped at knife point, and she told me (because she knew I was passionate about firearms) how badly she wished she would have been carrying a gun to stop it. I will not stand by and watch someone break into my house, or try to rob myself or a gas station or a family member, or watch someone try to abduct and rape a girl or child, whether I know them or not. I know that carrying a firearm doesn't magically make you safe, I have no delusions of being a video game or action movie hero. I take self defense and tactical weapon courses regularly (when I can afford them), and am extremely strict about gun training and gun safety. (I spent hours teaching my friend gun safety on a BB gun before I ever let him lay hands on one of my guns at the range. lol) But by carrying a weapon, I have made the conscious decision that I would risk my life to safe an innocents, and do anything I can to prevent the listed horrors above. Before my wife was killed, she knew, and supported, that I wouldn't stand by and hide like a coward if I saw someone being attacked. That I would do anything I could to come home to her safe, but that I would make risks to save somebody that needed saving. I would do that even without a gun, but having a competent firearm and being well trained with it gives me and the victim a slight edge in the situation.

Anyways, that's just who I am and how I feel. God bless, brother.
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Kyuubi4269
01/16/18 11:37:37 AM
#73:


MannerSaurus posted...
We are going to have to agree to disagree, because I will never back down on this, and I will never surrender my weapons.

These things aren't in conflict though. America has a huge issue with guns but it doesn't require legislation, it requires cultural reforms.
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bulbinking
01/16/18 11:39:03 AM
#74:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
We are going to have to agree to disagree, because I will never back down on this, and I will never surrender my weapons.

These things aren't in conflict though. America has a huge issue with guns but it doesn't require legislation, it requires cultural reforms.


Yes! Its the culture! Otherwise the places with most conce trated pockets of firearm ownership would have the more firearm crime per capita.

And thats almost the opposite of the case in the U.S.
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 11:42:04 AM
#75:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
We are going to have to agree to disagree, because I will never back down on this, and I will never surrender my weapons.

These things aren't in conflict though. America has a huge issue with guns but it doesn't require legislation, it requires cultural reforms.


Fair point, actually.
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ArvTheGreat
01/16/18 11:48:22 AM
#76:


Arv didnt need a picture to know what he looks like
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ArvTheGreat
01/16/18 11:49:21 AM
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People use to shoot people for looking at you wrong in the West why is guns a big issue now
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 11:53:48 AM
#78:


ArvTheGreat posted...
People use to shoot people for looking at you wrong in the West why is guns a big issue now


I'll say this, (aside from the "Wild West" being mostly fiction), operating a single-action only revolver at high speeds takes a tremendous amount more skill than a modern semi-automatic pistol. Which is why most people carry semi-automatic pistols, now. lol

Kind of like how Fuel Injection is superior to an engine with a carburetor in all ways (in relation to the car operating, not in things like cost or simplicity), but some old people cling stubbornly to carburetor-based vehicles because "I don't need a laptop to tune my damn car." Maybe, but Fuel Injection is technologically superior to your carburetor in every single way, which is why every fucking car for the last like 3 decades+ have been Electronic Fuel Injection. (For the dinosaur burners, obviously I'm not talking about like... the Tesla.)
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helIy
01/16/18 12:03:48 PM
#79:


RoboXgp89 posted...
A bear came on Hunter S Thompson's neighbors property and he shot the ground so the bird shot or whatever he was using ricocheted off the ground and nipped it in the butt. It ran off. They're basically giant dogs when they aren't moody or hungry. One of the shrapnel hit the woman though and the papers went crazy, reporting a deranged man shot a woman.

so, there isn't any type of shot that's going to ricochet off the ground.

it will go into the ground, it will not bounce off if it.
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 12:09:17 PM
#80:


helIy posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
A bear came on Hunter S Thompson's neighbors property and he shot the ground so the bird shot or whatever he was using ricocheted off the ground and nipped it in the butt. It ran off. They're basically giant dogs when they aren't moody or hungry. One of the shrapnel hit the woman though and the papers went crazy, reporting a deranged man shot a woman.

so, there isn't any type of shot that's going to ricochet off the ground.

it will go into the ground, it will not bounce off if it.


Yep. Also, "Birdshot's" payload is literally a bunch of BBs... (Technically "Varying sized tiny projectiles depending on the shell, with 'BB' being one size, BBB, B, being others, etc." The Term "BB" gun actually originates from using a BB sized little sphere from a shotgun shell, although modern BB gun BBs are actually not "BB" sized, anymore, but somewhere between BB and B.)

But for simplicity's sake, Birdshot fires a bunch of BB gun BBs. lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell#Birdshot
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Revelation34
01/16/18 2:04:12 PM
#81:


Babbit55 posted...
u guys are so used to gun deaths, it only really gets reported when it is a major one,


Citation needed.

MannerSaurus posted...
But I will not be caught with my pants down. I know a girl in England who got raped at knife point,


That's some unfortunate sentence structure.
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 2:07:35 PM
#82:


Revelation34 posted...
Babbit55 posted...
u guys are so used to gun deaths, it only really gets reported when it is a major one,


Citation needed.

MannerSaurus posted...
But I will not be caught with my pants down. I know a girl in England who got raped at knife point,


That's some unfortunate sentence structure.


True. I should have proof read that.
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OmegaTomHank
01/16/18 2:44:43 PM
#83:


If you understand basic human psychology youd understand guns are an awful thing to have around in spades. It allows weak, pitiful people like this neckbeard the ability to be functionally powerful.

This dude got overpowered by an 80 year old man but he circumvents the natural order of things by owning a gun
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OmegaTomHank
01/16/18 2:48:09 PM
#84:


MannerSaurus posted...
Babbit55 posted...
America has a problem with guns.


@Babbit55 We are going to have to agree to disagree, because I will never back down on this, and I will never surrender my weapons. Self defense and the ability to protect your loved ones from harm is a God given right, and the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America ensures the government cannot try to limit it. The British government literally tried to enforce gun control over the colonies in 1765. Guess how it turned out? (Obviously, that was only one of many things going on that year, but it WAS a thing.)

My firearm has become a factor in defending me and my late wife's life on at least one occasion, (fortunately I didn't have to fire it, but the guy could have had a knife and I would have if he didn't take my warnings seriously. He backed off, and police handled it from there.) Owning a firearm is ingrained in American culture, and like I said, literally part of the founding of this country. I own weapons to protect my family from criminals, and I own weapons to protect my family from oppressive military action (such as if Korea invaded by foot. Obviously my carbine doesn't mean anything versus a missile or tank, lol.) Do you know a Japanese military leader literally said they couldn't invade America by land because the citizens are armed? I take pride in that. Generally speaking, if someone broke in to my house, I would almost always be grabbing my 12 gauge pump shotgun over my AR-15. But what about the guy who tagged the mass shooter in Texas and made chase? The media literally demonized the weapon the shooter used, but barely any news article mentioned that the hero was using the same platform, because that wouldn't fit their agenda to put in peoples minds that a hero used one for positive reasons. Or what about the two men that protected an elderly shop keeper during the riots a couple years ago, armed with AR-15 carbines or rifles? Those are selfless and brave acts with a more adequate weapon for the scenario. It is very possible, (and I am hopeful) that I will go my whole life without ever having to fire a weapon in self defense. But I will not be caught with my pants down. I know a girl in England who got raped at knife point, and she told me (because she knew I was passionate about firearms) how badly she wished she would have been carrying a gun to stop it. I will not stand by and watch someone break into my house, or try to rob myself or a gas station or a family member, or watch someone try to abduct and rape a girl or child, whether I know them or not. I know that carrying a firearm doesn't magically make you safe, I have no delusions of being a video game or action movie hero. I take self defense and tactical weapon courses regularly (when I can afford them), and am extremely strict about gun training and gun safety. (I spent hours teaching my friend gun safety on a BB gun before I ever let him lay hands on one of my guns at the range. lol) But by carrying a weapon, I have made the conscious decision that I would risk my life to safe an innocents, and do anything I can to prevent the listed horrors above. Before my wife was killed, she knew, and supported, that I wouldn't stand by and hide like a coward if I saw someone being attacked. That I would do anything I could to come home to her safe, but that I would make risks to save somebody that needed saving. I would do that even without a gun, but having a competent firearm and being well trained with it gives me and the victim a slight edge in the situation.

Anyways, that's just who I am and how I feel. God bless, brother.


Wow youd defend someone with a highly lethal weapon that is known to kill humans in mere moments.

How brave
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Monopoman
01/16/18 2:55:49 PM
#85:


ArvTheGreat posted...
People use to shoot people for looking at you wrong in the West why is guns a big issue now

It helped that if someone shot some guy say 4-5 miles outside of any town odds are no one would even know the guy was dead for a month or two. Murder was still prosecuted when they could figure out that the person in question murdered someone. I also believe back then dueling was considered 100% legal as long as both parties agreed to the duel or some shit.
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OmegaTomHank
01/16/18 2:56:47 PM
#86:


Monopoman posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
People use to shoot people for looking at you wrong in the West why is guns a big issue now

It helped that if someone shot some guy say 4-5 miles outside of any town odds are no one would even know the guy was dead for a month or two. Murder was still prosecuted when they could figure out that the person in question murdered someone. I also believe back then dueling was considered 100% legal as long as both parties agreed to the duel or some shit.


I believe this is actually still legal.

Its just not done very often
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 3:21:58 PM
#87:


OmegaTomHank posted...

Wow youd defend someone with a highly lethal weapon that is known to kill humans in mere moments.

How brave


I'm not going to disarm myself and limit my available resources available to protect another human being because some guy on GameFAQs might think more noble of my actions. Would you rather fight a burning building with a fire extinguisher or a powered water hose?
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RoboXgp89
01/16/18 4:24:02 PM
#88:


duels between men weren't that much different psychologically then say knights defending their honor, which is why it was so popular
most times they missed, when they did hit though if the bullet shrapnel couldn't be removed it'd lead to a horrible infection. the getting shot part in that regard is easy compared to the fever that followed
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OmegaTomHank
01/16/18 7:36:21 PM
#89:


MannerSaurus posted...
OmegaTomHank posted...

Wow youd defend someone with a highly lethal weapon that is known to kill humans in mere moments.

How brave


I'm not going to disarm myself and limit my available resources available to protect another human being because some guy on GameFAQs might think more noble of my actions. Would you rather fight a burning building with a fire extinguisher or a powered water hose?


I dont give a damn what you do.

The world is full of gun toting pussies that cant fight hand to hand, the only thing we can do is hope there is some sort of technology that makes guns useless since cowards will never give them up.
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OmegaTomHank
01/16/18 7:39:55 PM
#90:


RoboXgp89 posted...
duels between men weren't that much different psychologically then say knights defending their honor, which is why it was so popular
most times they missed, when they did hit though if the bullet shrapnel couldn't be removed it'd lead to a horrible infection. the getting shot part in that regard is easy compared to the fever that followed


Guns back then actually required skill to use.

In the year 2017 its never been easier to kill not just someone, but MANY people without breaking a sweat. This is why society is so screwed up right now, because the only way to ensure safety and protection in this insane world is to limit liberties. The natural order of things, which dictates that the lessers and incapable are naturally checked by their own futility means nothing anymore. The only thing that can be done about these people is they are stifled economically.

A dude in a wheelchair can kill Mike Tyson for gods sake.
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Kyuubi4269
01/16/18 7:47:23 PM
#91:


OmegaTomHank posted...
Wow youd defend someone with a highly lethal weapon that is known to kill humans in mere moments.

How brave

Levying threats with a whole handful of nothing is stupid, not brave.

OmegaTomHank posted...
If you understand basic human psychology youd understand guns are an awful thing to have around in spades. It allows weak, pitiful people like this neckbeard the ability to be functionally powerful.

It allows weak, vulnerable people to defend themselves too. It's not any better to guarantee that the physically strong can reliably abuse the weak (or just women in general).

The issue is weak people who need protection denying themselves arms because "shooty bang-bang scary-bad!" when they're the only people who actually need them.
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Kyuubi4269
01/16/18 7:49:16 PM
#92:


OmegaTomHank posted...
the only way to ensure safety and protection in this insane world is to limit liberties.

Fuck right off with that shit, I'm glad you're not in power.
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OhhhJa
01/16/18 7:51:07 PM
#93:


RoboXgp89 posted...
this was literally the first post on google
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-adhd-overdiagnosed-and-overtreated-2017031611304
For one, ADHD is overdiagnosed. Experts estimate that 5% is a realistic upper limit of children with the disorder, but in many areas of the country, as Watson found in Virginia, up to 33% of white boys are diagnosed with ADHD.Mar 18, 2017

So mental illness isn't real because you found a study that claims adhd is overdiagnosed?
That's quite the leap in logic guy.
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Kyuubi4269
01/16/18 7:52:23 PM
#94:


OhhhJa posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
this was literally the first post on google
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-adhd-overdiagnosed-and-overtreated-2017031611304
For one, ADHD is overdiagnosed. Experts estimate that 5% is a realistic upper limit of children with the disorder, but in many areas of the country, as Watson found in Virginia, up to 33% of white boys are diagnosed with ADHD.Mar 18, 2017

So mental illness isn't real because you found a study that claims adhd is overdiagnosed?
That's quite the leap in logic guy.

It's even more amusing since it outright confirms the existence of ADHD, a mental illness.
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MannerSaurus
01/16/18 7:58:56 PM
#95:


OmegaTomHank posted...

I dont give a damn what you do.

The world is full of gun toting pussies that cant fight hand to hand, the only thing we can do is hope there is some sort of technology that makes guns useless since cowards will never give them up.


Are you the guy that made a girl leave the country from creeping on her? Or are you the guy that adamantly defended having sex with a horse? I get the two of you mixed up.

If someone uses a gun to get out of a fist fight, that would be pretty pathetic. But you don't challenge someone that is robbing a gas station "to a fist fight." That's asinine. Besides, how old are you?

I've been banned from enough bars in my town (and over the bridge...) for smacking some little smart ass punk's teeth in to know that one day it's time to grow up. I'm not 23 anymore. I can still hold my own, but I'm not in the awesome conditioning I was in while boxing (at the end of high school into my early 20's. I don't know if work/bills is to blame for that, age, drinking, or what.) After a while, you start getting tired of fighting. (And tired of drinking, for that matter.)

When I'm walking with one of my female friends, I'm not hoping I can "prove my manliness" by getting in to a fist fight in front of her. I'm just ready to use my sidearm if we were to ever be in danger.

You have a lot of growing up to do, son. And a lot of insecurities to work out.
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RoboXgp89
01/16/18 9:50:33 PM
#96:


you can say this guy had whatever mental disorder you want and that he shouldn't have owned a gun

i'm saying that he probably wouldn't have started shooting the walls and shit if he had a long barreled gun that he had to lift his hand off the controller to aim
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CacciatoPart2
01/16/18 10:24:34 PM
#97:


I wish I knew where your logic came from, because its fucking bizarre.
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Revelation34
01/17/18 2:57:17 AM
#98:


MannerSaurus posted...
Are you the guy that made a girl leave the country from creeping on her? Or are you the guy that adamantly defended having sex with a horse?


No he's the one that made the horse not flinch.
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toaduniversity9
01/17/18 3:25:52 AM
#99:


Jesus fucking Christ. Why did he get so upset, he could just buy a new headset for $20-30 for a third party or $45 for first party.
This reminds me of gym class in school, you have sports fanatics on a team, and then there are those non-athletic kids on the same team. If there team lost people would be so pissed just because they lost a game of soccer, kickball etc. Then afterwards there would be fights because people can't control their anger. Competition is good however games are meant for fun not violence.
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01/17/18 4:45:05 AM
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hockney
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