Board 8 > who here doesn't like groundhog day

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i know you're there
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idk i find it difficult to fathom disliking something that is just so wholeheartedly devoted to the message of self improvement

the movie or the holiday?
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the movie
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discord came to a pretty unanimous agreement that groundhog day is a good movie, with multiple people claiming it as one of the best ever with no resistance.

i'm not used to this so i thought i'd let someone here ruin it
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inb4nanis
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Emeraldegg posted...

inb4nanis

good shout
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you know what I didn't take the nanis factor into consideration
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hear the collective groan of everybody realizing it's definitely going to be nanis
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Groundhog Day is definitely a top tier movie.
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More like who here doesn't like Bill Murray
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i dont know if i would say one of the best movies ever but it is very good
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@Nanis23 confirm
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perhaps Eddv actually too, maybe
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Its one of the all time classics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOwhG_y0HQg
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One of my favorites so don't look at me
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@Eddv
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never seen it so I can't really say I "like" it
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pretty sure you do though

Groundhogs day is like probably Bill Murray's best movie. It's close though he has a lot of classics.
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Good movie. Not quite top tier since the middle runs a bit long, but very watchable and worth your time.

Probably Murray's second best, after Life Aquatic
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It's good but I honestly prefer the Stargate SG-1 version
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This topic should go up every day until actual Groundhog Day. Maybe new stuff will be said!
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KingBartz posted...

i dont know if i would say one of the best movies ever but it is very good

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SaveEstelle posted...

It's good but I honestly prefer the Stargate SG-1 version

We were discussing this as well and decided this is probably the best version.
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I prefer Endless Eight imhotbqh
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It's one of the best new musicals of recent years.

Who is that? Who is that? Emerging from his burrow
Who can see today what we won't see until tomorrow?
Shaman of the shadows
Springer of the spring
Come on
Is it a squirrel? Is it a beaver?
Kinda both, but not quite either!
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Steiner posted...

@Eddv

I think its good but the fact that its been done to death as episodes of television in serial shows makes it not as worth going back to as others
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Shaduln posted...

SaveEstelle posted...

It's good but I honestly prefer the Stargate SG-1 version

We were discussing this as well and decided this is probably the best version.

What about Doctor Who's Heaven Sent?
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Great movie and one of Murrays best.
My favorite one is still What About Bob? which few Murray fans I know have seen.

i watched this movie for the first time last night

found myself surprised by how good it was. bill murray makes such a great transition from likable asshole into genuine good person.
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Shaduln posted...

SaveEstelle posted...

It's good but I honestly prefer the Stargate SG-1 version

We were discussing this as well and decided this is probably the best version.

even better!!
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Love the movie. One of my favorites
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Steiner posted...

@Nanis23 confirm

Sorry to disappoint, but I didn't watch it
Not fully, at least
I watched for like half an hour when it was on TV and I liked the concept and actually wanted to watch all of it but never got around to doing it (not surprising, there are a lot of classics I didn't watch like the Godfather and only 2 months ago I saw the original Star Wars)
The concept is cool, kinda like Life is Strange and Source Code
I always wish I could go back in time, learn from my mistakes, do something else, say something else, etc

So sorry, but you can make the same topic about Fight Club if you want!!
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time loop media is one of my guilty pleasures, and groundhog day was probably one of the first I ever saw (and still holds up imo)

Predestination
Timecrimes
Primer
Triangle
ARQ

all some other good ones that get slept on from time to time

and while not a loop one in the conventional sense, Coherence shares a lot of the same building blocks and is one of my favorite movies of the past few years
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Pretty amazing movie
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Nanis23 posted...

So sorry, but you can make the same topic about Fight Club if you want!!

hahahahahaha nanis thinks he's the only person in 2018 to not like fight club
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excellent movie
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Someone did the math and he was in that loop for like 10000 years.
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FFDragon posted...

Predestination
Timecrimes
Primer
Triangle
ARQ
Coherence

I have seen and love all of these movies except ARQ. Which i have not seen but will undoubtedly love of its in the same category as the rest. I don't even consider them guilty pleasures but legitimately interesting and good movies.

Time paradox as a concept can be ruined so easily but these movies have the care and vision to pull it off.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Someone did the math and he was in that loop for like 10000 years.

"In relationship to the spiritual interpretations of the films, many have tried to estimate how long Phil supposedly remains trapped in the loop, in real time, with a wide variance in estimated values. During filming, Ramis, who was a Buddhist, observed that according to Buddhist doctrine, it takes 10,000 years for a soul to evolve to its next level. Therefore, he said, in a spiritual sense, the entire arc of Groundhog Day spans 10,000 years. Deezen noted that the second draft of the screenplay called for Phil to be cursed to live the time loop for 10,000 years. In the DVD commentary, Ramis estimated a real-time duration of 10 years. Later, Ramis told a reporter, "I think the 10-year estimate is too short. It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years."

In 2005, Rubin said, "Ultimately it became this weird political issue because if you asked the studio, 'How long was the repetition?', they'd say, 'Two weeks'. But the point of the movie to me was that you had to feel you were enduring something that was going on for a long time ... For me it had to beI don't know. A hundred years. A lifetime." In 2014, the website WhatCulture combined various time duration assumptions and estimated that Phil spent a total of 12,395 daysjust under 34 yearsreliving Groundhog Day"

That's what I got from wikipedia at least
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I know its not what you're lookin for but I really enjoyed that movie
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I havent seen it in probably 10 years, but I remember liking it.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Someone did the math and he was in that loop for like 10000 years.

"In relationship to the spiritual interpretations of the films, many have tried to estimate how long Phil supposedly remains trapped in the loop, in real time, with a wide variance in estimated values. During filming, Ramis, who was a Buddhist, observed that according to Buddhist doctrine, it takes 10,000 years for a soul to evolve to its next level. Therefore, he said, in a spiritual sense, the entire arc of Groundhog Day spans 10,000 years. Deezen noted that the second draft of the screenplay called for Phil to be cursed to live the time loop for 10,000 years. In the DVD commentary, Ramis estimated a real-time duration of 10 years. Later, Ramis told a reporter, "I think the 10-year estimate is too short. It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years."

In 2005, Rubin said, "Ultimately it became this weird political issue because if you asked the studio, 'How long was the repetition?', they'd say, 'Two weeks'. But the point of the movie to me was that you had to feel you were enduring something that was going on for a long time ... For me it had to beI don't know. A hundred years. A lifetime." In 2014, the website WhatCulture combined various time duration assumptions and estimated that Phil spent a total of 12,395 daysjust under 34 yearsreliving Groundhog Day"

That's what I got from wikipedia at least

Oh it was days? I knew it was 10,000. I guess I had the years part wrong.
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34 years actually seems like a pretty reasonable estimate to me. 10000 years is definitely too much I'm sure he would've gone completely insane by that point. Also you'd expect him to have way the hell more skills after 10000 years. But he becomes a master of the piano, ice sculptor, etc etc so two weeks is obviously way too low (hell I think the movie directly shows you way more than 2 weeks worth of reps). Probably 10 years is also too low.
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I would guess the movie only shows us 9 months of reps.
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I figured he probably spent a few decades in the loop but 10k? wut
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I wouldn't say I liked it or found it as hilarious as others seem to but it was a good movie. I love time loop concepts but I've seen so many that it's probably a "Seinfeld is unfunny" moment. Or maybe it was just overhyped to me. I dunno, I just feel pretty neutral on it.

Also they did too good a job on making Bill Murray into an unlikable asshole. It had the consequence of making me not actually care about him.
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