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Hinakuluiau
01/25/18 8:18:28 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/us/politics/trump-mueller-special-counsel-russia.html

President Trump ordered the firing last June of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel overseeing the Russia investigation, according to four people told of the matter, but ultimately backed down after the White House counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the directive.

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littlebro07
01/25/18 8:19:31 PM
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Phantom_Nook
01/25/18 8:19:40 PM
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The West Wing confrontation marks the first time Mr. Trump is known to have tried to fire the special counsel. Mr. Mueller learned about the episode in recent months as his investigators interviewed current and former senior White House officials in his inquiry into whether the president obstructed justice.


That'd be a good reason why Mueller wants to interview Trump.
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008Zulu
01/25/18 8:20:46 PM
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Why doesn't Trump just man-up, and do the deed himself? Oh right, his bone spurs give him mild foot pain.
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thronedfire2
01/25/18 8:20:48 PM
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Welp
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lilORANG
01/25/18 8:23:00 PM
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if this is true, does that constitute obstruction? What's the statute?

is attempted obstruction a thing?
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
01/25/18 8:23:39 PM
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The amazing thing here is that Mueller probably knows all this already.
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Siaperaz
01/25/18 8:24:06 PM
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Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.
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DirkDiggles
01/25/18 8:24:32 PM
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If it was Hillary, Mueller would of committed suicide with his hands tied behind his back, two in the back in the head, and thrown in the bay.
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KarmaMuffin
01/25/18 8:24:55 PM
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Siaperaz posted...
Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.

Why is this always the response? Lol. It's like you don't understand that just cause Fox and Breitbart make up shit doesn't mean that the NYT does.
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Paper_Okami
01/25/18 8:25:35 PM
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Siaperaz posted...
Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.


anonymous sources have ALWAYS been a part of journalism.
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Tmaster148
01/25/18 8:25:56 PM
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KarmaMuffin posted...
Siaperaz posted...
Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.

Why is this always the response? Lol. It's like you don't understand that just cause Fox and Breitbart make up shit doesn't mean that the NYT doesn't.


They only say that when it comes to anything negative against Trump. But if an anonymous source comes out against a democrat they'll foam at the mouths.
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Juhanor
01/25/18 8:26:04 PM
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Shaking my damn head...
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prince_leo
01/25/18 8:26:24 PM
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this verifies that claim WH insiders had at that time that there were quite a few people threatening to quit
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Unquestionable
01/25/18 8:28:16 PM
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More failure from the Orange Menace. Not really a surprise at this point, or to anyone who watched him hemorrhage money for a decade.
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The Great Muta 22
01/25/18 8:30:27 PM
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Another piece of the obstruction puzzle that's falling into place. There's a reason why this rumored story has existed since last June, it was always true. He's tried to shut this down and he simply couldn't
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Doom_Art
01/25/18 8:46:23 PM
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He's aware he doesn't have the power to fire Mueller, right?
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Antifar
01/25/18 8:47:48 PM
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CNN: Trump tried to fire Mueller
MSNBC: Trump tried to fire Mueller
Fox News: Heres a photo of Obama and Farrakhan from 2005 https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/956704273596854272/photo/1
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 8:49:38 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Why doesn't Trump just man-up, and do the deed himself?

He doesn't have the authority to remove Mueller himself. Only the AG can, or in this case the acting AG. It's why there's been all this talk of removing Sessions, to replace him with an AG that would fire Mueller.
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UnholyMudcrab
01/25/18 8:50:21 PM
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He's spending an awful lot of time trying to silence someone leading an investigation that he claims isn't going to turn anything up.
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bevan306
01/25/18 8:51:38 PM
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Hinakuluiau
01/25/18 9:03:11 PM
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This is why the GOP has been going nuts this past week with the FBI/Deep State/Secret Society/Illuminati conspiracies.
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AlternativeFAQS
01/25/18 9:04:55 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
This is why the GOP has been going nuts this past week with the FBI/Deep State/Secret Society/Illuminati conspiracies.

This week?
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:07:57 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
This is why the GOP has been going nuts this past week with the FBI/Deep State/Secret Society/Illuminati conspiracies.

No, this would only explain if they went crazy last June. I can't remember if they did or not, because these little tantrums from them never amount to anything.
The current tantrum is because of the increasingly likely event of Mueller interviewing Trump under oath, where he will most definitely perjure himself and admit to obstruction.
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Tmaster148
01/25/18 9:09:01 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Hinakuluiau posted...
This is why the GOP has been going nuts this past week with the FBI/Deep State/Secret Society/Illuminati conspiracies.

No, this would only explain if they went crazy last June. I can't remember if they did or not, because these little tantrums from them never amount to anything.
The current tantrum is because of the increasingly likely event of Mueller interviewing Trump under oath, where he will most definitely perjure himself and admit to obstruction.


He basically already admitted that already with his recent statement of how attacking the investigation is called obstruction.
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:10:13 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
He basically already admitted that already with his recent statement of how attacking the investigation is called obstruction.

I'm aware, but him admitting to it under oath and in front of Mueller is a far bigger deal.
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UnholyMudcrab
01/25/18 9:11:57 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
He basically already admitted that already with his recent statement of how attacking the investigation is called obstruction.

I'm aware, but him admitting to it under oath and in front of Mueller is a far bigger deal.

Which is why his lawyers are now scrambling to keep him from doing so
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:14:03 PM
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Plus, he admitted to obstruction back in May of last year. If you'll remember, he sat down for an interview with Lester Holt where he outright admitted firing Comey was because of the Russia investigation.
He also admitted this with the Russians he invited into the Oval Office for a private meeting right after firing Comey.

As someone else said in another topic, he's already admitted to everything and the media just didn't know how to handle that.
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Phantom_Nook
01/25/18 9:17:18 PM
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Antifar posted...
CNN: Trump tried to fire Mueller
MSNBC: Trump tried to fire Mueller
Fox News: Heres a photo of Obama and Farrakhan from 2005 https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/956704273596854272/photo/1

Who?
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Heineken14
01/25/18 9:18:16 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
This is my surprised face


Like this?

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Heineken14
01/25/18 9:19:54 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
Siaperaz posted...
Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.

Why is this always the response? Lol. It's like you don't understand that just cause Fox and Breitbart make up shit doesn't mean that the NYT doesn't.


They only say that when it comes to anything negative against Trump. But if an anonymous source comes out against a democrat they'll foam at the mouths.


Hell, they buy into Donnie's obvious bullshit anonymous sources all the time.

"People have been saying" and "Many people are talking." lol
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Doom_Art
01/25/18 9:21:47 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Who?

Yeah, exactly.
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hockeybub89
01/25/18 9:23:41 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
He's spending an awful lot of time trying to silence someone leading an investigation that he claims isn't going to turn anything up.

Makes you think
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:25:01 PM
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Some noteworthy takeaways.

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/956708585039384577
https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/956711728078876673
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/956705776403349510 (This one doesn't even begin to paint the full picture, but there's no way to do that in a single tweet)
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P4wn4g3
01/25/18 9:32:00 PM
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Lolz
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:32:14 PM
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So is it me or are the usual suspects rather quiet tonight?
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prince_leo
01/25/18 9:35:01 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
So is it me or are the usual suspects rather quiet tonight?

Fox is quiet too - https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/956710298223865856/photo/1
once someone figures out how to spin it then they'll come out in force
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Tmaster148
01/25/18 9:35:04 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
So is it me or are the usual suspects rather quiet tonight?


I've seen quite a few topics about the FBI phone thing where it's just a circle jerk of Trump defenders trying to invalidate the investigation.

They seem to be sticking to echo chambers.
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P4wn4g3
01/25/18 9:36:48 PM
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The cultists are running out of defenses for him. Each new defense defeats an old one. In the end the only defense that works is faith.
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:37:49 PM
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prince_leo posted...
Fox is quiet too - https://twitter.com/laurenduca/status/956710298223865856/photo/1

To be fair, they posted an article.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/trump-ordered-mueller-fired-then-backed-off-ny-times-reports.html

It very quickly brushes the story aside and goes into how Trump's finances are a no-no for some reason, but they posted it.
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littlebro07
01/25/18 9:38:27 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
KarmaMuffin posted...
Siaperaz posted...
Yawn, anonymous source. The state of "journalism" these days.

Why is this always the response? Lol. It's like you don't understand that just cause Fox and Breitbart make up shit doesn't mean that the NYT doesn't.


They only say that when it comes to anything negative against Trump. But if an anonymous source comes out against a democrat they'll foam at the mouths.


Hell, they buy into Donnie's obvious bullshit anonymous sources all the time.

"People have been saying" and "Many people are talking." lol


Hey man, don't discredit Many People.
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:52:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/956719925757906945
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BruceWayneJr
01/25/18 9:53:54 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
The cultists are running out of defenses for him. Each new defense defeats an old one. In the end the only defense that works is faith.


But that's all that us Good Christians need!

Fuck the facts, fuck the experts, and go with the gut god gave ya!
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ShinyMuffin
01/25/18 9:54:18 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/956719925757906945

Not like he's wrong though. Always funny how anonymous sources get taken seriously when they're against the GOP.
What's stopping these sources from lying? How did the NYT verify it? I don't even like Trump and it's ridiculous how these kinds of stories have the same issues: lack of sources
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BLAKUboy
01/25/18 9:54:47 PM
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Interestingly, since certain individuals are focusing on the sources, here's a theory on a possible source.
https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/956715231660699648
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Funkydog
01/25/18 10:02:50 PM
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ShinyMuffin posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/956719925757906945

Not like he's wrong though. Always funny how anonymous sources get taken seriously when they're against the GOP.
What's stopping these sources from lying? How did the NYT verify it? I don't even like Trump and it's ridiculous how these kinds of stories have the same issues: lack of sources

I mean... do you not know how anonymous sources work and how much they make up journalism of this sort?

People wouldn't leak stuff if they were outed.
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Agnostic420
01/25/18 10:05:51 PM
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My God cant everyone just ban together and oust Trump ffs.
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Heineken14
01/25/18 10:06:57 PM
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Funkydog posted...
ShinyMuffin posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/956719925757906945

Not like he's wrong though. Always funny how anonymous sources get taken seriously when they're against the GOP.
What's stopping these sources from lying? How did the NYT verify it? I don't even like Trump and it's ridiculous how these kinds of stories have the same issues: lack of sources

I mean... do you not know how anonymous sources work and how much they make up journalism of this sort?

People wouldn't leak stuff if they were outed.


I'm assuming most of these people think someone can just call up CNN (because Fake News!) with one of those voice changer things and yell "Donnie wanted to fire Mueller!" and hang up and they start scrambling to get the juicy scoop out.
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hockeybub89
01/25/18 10:08:08 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
I'm assuming most of these people think someone can just call up CNN (because Fake News!) with one of those voice changer things and yell "Donnie wanted to fire Mueller!" and hang up and they start scrambling to get the juicy TWO SCOOPS out.

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littlebro07
01/25/18 10:08:08 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
He's spending an awful lot of time trying to silence someone leading an investigation that he claims isn't going to turn anything up.


Yeah, it's always been odd just how often Trump has called the investigation a witch hunt and claimed nothing happened.

Why not just sit back, do some work, golf every week, then let the investigation blow over?
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