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byrone
02/01/18 5:33:17 AM
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-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.
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frozenshock
02/01/18 5:38:01 AM
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At its core, communism isn't really a philosophy or an ideology that you agree with or disagree with.

It's more like a declaration of war from the poor to the rich.
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DocileOrangeCup
02/01/18 5:38:23 AM
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EverDownward
02/01/18 5:39:23 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
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Goddamn, that is some tasty communism!
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Steve Nick
02/01/18 5:40:37 AM
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frozenshock posted...
At its core, communism isn't really a philosophy or an ideology that you agree with or disagree with.

It's more like a declaration of war from the poor to the rich.


Lol what?

Communism is equally good for everyone.
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byrone
02/01/18 5:41:58 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
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Exactly
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Steve Nick
02/01/18 5:43:03 AM
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What people don't realize is that communism has been used in multiple facets of everybody's life since the beginning of time.

If you've ever been part of a family household, you have probably lived in communism.
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byrone
02/01/18 5:43:30 AM
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AssultTank posted...
He was telling you that was your food for the week for your family.

No he wasn't. You know nothing of true communism.
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EverDownward
02/01/18 5:44:32 AM
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AssultTank posted...
He was telling you that was your food for the week for your family.

Wow, way to jump to conclusions

EDIT: I just now realized your name isn't AssaultTank
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byrone
02/01/18 5:48:33 AM
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AssultTank posted...
Communism is a great theory. But that is all it ever can be as long as people are involved on a large scale.

Once you get much above the small community level, you introduce the need for a central government which frankly is antithetical to communism.

Thanks for proving my point. Maybe do some research into actual communism and not what they're showing you on your TV screen. Or fake news your making up. NEXT
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Steve Nick
02/01/18 5:50:24 AM
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Communism is a perfect system, providing your entire population has the best interests in mind of the nation.
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frozenshock
02/01/18 5:52:01 AM
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Steve Nick posted...
Lol what?

Communism is equally good for everyone.


Marx's writings are literally a threat of war.

It's something that comes straight out of the dawn of the industrial revolution. You had laborers working inhuman hours in sweatshops each and every day who barely made enough money to eat, while the fat cat boss in his sofa with a cigar made a lot of money doing nothing because he owned the sweatshop.

So communism is those people saying "you know what? screw it I'm not gonna work to make you rich anymore, we're going to take the sweatshop from you and own it ourselves!"

Sure there's billions of philosophical musings and theories and complications and vanguard communism and this and that, but it really is what it is. It's a declaration of war.

The problem is...

Okay, imagine the poor are now the new "dictators." That's fine, but who actually has the power? Well, it's same old same old - you have an all powerful dictator. It's just that he's supposed to represent the poor, so "through him" the poor are the ones in power. But he's just a dictator, no different from the others.

This is stuff that literally belongs in another century.

Workers uniting to fight back is a good thing. I mean, without trade unions factories wouldn't even have safety rails and fire exits so that if the place burns down everyone burns with it and no one cares. It was that extreme back in the late 19th century. But trade unions are one thing. Overthrowing the government and putting everything in the hands of "the people" only means that you end up in a banana republic dictatorship with one guy holding all the power.
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Delirious_Beard
02/01/18 5:52:58 AM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
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no more chicken sandwiches
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jumi
02/01/18 5:55:49 AM
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shnangyboos
02/01/18 5:56:18 AM
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Steve Nick posted...
If you've ever been part of a family household, you have probably lived in communism.


This is like that lame ass "if you believe in equality then you're a feminist" nonsense.
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byrone
02/01/18 5:57:16 AM
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shnangyboos posted...
Steve Nick posted...
If you've ever been part of a family household, you have probably lived in communism.


This is like that lame ass "if you believe in equality then you're a feminist" nonsense.

By lame ass nonsense you mean the truth. Gotcha.
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byrone
02/01/18 1:10:47 PM
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Bump
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FLUFFYGERM
02/01/18 1:41:20 PM
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Communism is a religion in which most adherents have a power-trip fantasy where they envision themselves violently dominating anyone who is remotely successful in life. It is inherently contradictory and thus cannot exist. Any attempt at implementing communism necessarily involves force or the threat of violence in order to prevent the best people in society from just reverting back to capitalism/free markets. Anyone still believing that Marxism or communism are tenable in 2018 is beneath even the fanatics who still maintain that the planet is 6,000 years old, because at least the YECs have the benefit of saying "God did it."
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byrone
02/01/18 1:49:59 PM
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Romulox28
02/01/18 2:01:31 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Okay, imagine the poor are now the new "dictators." That's fine, but who actually has the power? Well, it's same old same old - you have an all powerful dictator. It's just that he's supposed to represent the poor, so "through him" the poor are the ones in power. But he's just a dictator, no different from the others.

theoretically in a true communist nation, there wouldnt be a dictator, the power would be divided between all the people in a classless society
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FLUFFYGERM
02/01/18 2:05:40 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
theoretically in a true communist nation, there wouldnt be a dictator, the power would be divided between all the people in a classless society


which is self contradictory and logistically impossible, since in order to maintain that classlessness you'd need a power structure which could reinforce and maintain that classless society
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Paragon21XX
02/01/18 2:05:54 PM
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byrone posted...
more smarter

Apparently not.
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DarkDragon400
02/01/18 2:06:19 PM
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shnangyboos posted...
Steve Nick posted...
If you've ever been part of a family household, you have probably lived in communism.


This is like that lame ass "if you believe in equality then you're a feminist" nonsense.

And babies are atheists.
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Romulox28
02/01/18 2:18:24 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Romulox28 posted...
theoretically in a true communist nation, there wouldnt be a dictator, the power would be divided between all the people in a classless society


which is self contradictory and logistically impossible, since in order to maintain that classlessness you'd need a power structure which could reinforce and maintain that classless society

well nobody would be earning a profit off of the surplus, since there would be no actual profit, so everyone would be living on equal ground
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FLUFFYGERM
02/01/18 2:20:47 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Romulox28 posted...
theoretically in a true communist nation, there wouldnt be a dictator, the power would be divided between all the people in a classless society


which is self contradictory and logistically impossible, since in order to maintain that classlessness you'd need a power structure which could reinforce and maintain that classless society

well nobody would be earning a profit off of the surplus, since there would be no actual profit, so everyone would be living on equal ground


see averagejoel's topic for my explanation of why this type of thinking is incoherent nonsense

the tl;dr is that it is impossible to eliminate profiting off of surplus or off of assets. and it is impossible, without violence or the threat of violence, to maintain a society where everyone is classless and no one steps out of that paradigm to secure a better future for themselves.
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byrone
02/01/18 2:25:56 PM
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who posted
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byrone
02/01/18 2:26:21 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
byrone posted...
more smarter

Apparently not.

Nice strawman
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Kaname_Madoka
02/01/18 2:27:24 PM
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what about anime
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DiegoSanchez206
02/01/18 2:31:02 PM
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byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?
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byrone
02/01/18 2:35:28 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?

More smarter then capitalism. Obviously. Nice strawman.

Also, aren't you the guy who was crying about how your gf left you for a 19 year old?

lmao
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DiegoSanchez206
02/01/18 8:38:16 PM
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byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?

More smarter then capitalism. Obviously. Nice strawman.

Also, aren't you the guy who was crying about how your gf left you for a 19 year old?

lmao


Why are you making up stuff trying to deflect your A+ grammar?
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byrone
02/01/18 8:38:56 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?

More smarter then capitalism. Obviously. Nice strawman.

Also, aren't you the guy who was crying about how your gf left you for a 19 year old?

lmao


Why are you making up stuff trying to deflect your A+ grammar?

Im not making stuff up.

Stop strawmanning
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DiegoSanchez206
02/01/18 10:54:55 PM
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byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?

More smarter then capitalism. Obviously. Nice strawman.

Also, aren't you the guy who was crying about how your gf left you for a 19 year old?

lmao


Why are you making up stuff trying to deflect your A+ grammar?

Im not making stuff up.

Stop strawmanning

1. Yes you are.
2. Do you know what a straw man is
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byrone
02/01/18 10:56:41 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
byrone posted...
-much better than capitalism
-more smarter than all other ones.

More smarter, eh?

More smarter then capitalism. Obviously. Nice strawman.

Also, aren't you the guy who was crying about how your gf left you for a 19 year old?

lmao


Why are you making up stuff trying to deflect your A+ grammar?

Im not making stuff up.

Stop strawmanning

1. Yes you are.
2. Do you know what a straw man is

1. No I'm not.
2. Do you know what grammar is?
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Kaname_Madoka
02/02/18 11:50:12 AM
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youre both pretty

stop fighting
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Link HT
02/02/18 11:51:57 AM
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Imagine grades in classes were given communist style: everyone gets the same grade which is an average of everyone's score.

Do you think the average score would go up or down with the method?
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DiegoSanchez206
02/02/18 6:22:07 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
youre both pretty

stop fighting

Shut up
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Kaname_Madoka
02/02/18 8:07:27 PM
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DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
youre both pretty

stop fighting

Shut up

No.
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