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Doctor Foxx
02/02/18 7:30:08 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/02/582828461/fact-check-read-the-gop-memo-released-by-house-intelligence-committee

Heres NPRs annotated memo

Interesting bit at the end from the NPR White House Correspondent

Sources close to the president told NPR that he had been telling friends in recent days that he believed the memo would undermine special counsel Robert Muellers investigation into Russian election interference and possible connections to the Trump campaign. Trump allies have long claimed that if not for the Steele dossier, commissioned by political research firm Fusion GPS by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clintons campaign there would be no Russia investigation. But what this line in the memo reveals is that the investigation was initially triggered not by the Steele dossier but by information about the activities of Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos. in October 2017 to lying to the FBI; he is cooperating with the Mueller investigation.


Bold emphasis mine. So not only did this leak secret information that the Russians did not know (dates Carter was under surveillance), not only is it omitting relevant information about the nature of the investigation, it's all done specifically with the goal to undermine confidence in the FBI and the investigation... By the person under investigation. Holy corrpt fucksticks
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Nomadic View
02/02/18 8:00:39 PM
#405:


shockthemonkey posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Keep grilling those nothingburgers when the cows come home to roost

What do you actually expect to happen?


I think the memo exposes some of the corruption, but I think youre right. Nothing substantial will come of it.

Sean Hannity will cling to it claiming this is the biggest scandal since Watergate.

Don Lemon will claim that its all lies, and its also racist for some reason.

In two weeks someone will say something that hurt someones feelings and the world will forget about it.
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ElatedVenusaur
02/02/18 8:10:07 PM
#406:


Doctor Foxx posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/02/582828461/fact-check-read-the-gop-memo-released-by-house-intelligence-committee

Heres NPRs annotated memo

Interesting bit at the end from the NPR White House Correspondent

Sources close to the president told NPR that he had been telling friends in recent days that he believed the memo would undermine special counsel Robert Muellers investigation into Russian election interference and possible connections to the Trump campaign. Trump allies have long claimed that if not for the Steele dossier, commissioned by political research firm Fusion GPS by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clintons campaign there would be no Russia investigation. But what this line in the memo reveals is that the investigation was initially triggered not by the Steele dossier but by information about the activities of Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos. in October 2017 to lying to the FBI; he is cooperating with the Mueller investigation.


Bold emphasis mine. So not only did this leak secret information that the Russians did not know (dates Carter was under surveillance), not only is it omitting relevant information about the nature of the investigation, it's all done specifically with the goal to undermine confidence in the FBI and the investigation... By the person under investigation. Holy corrpt fucksticks

And it actually explicitly disproves the notion that the Steele dossier is what triggered the initial FBI investigation. These people are very, very dumb.
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Doctor Foxx
02/02/18 8:12:51 PM
#407:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/02/582828461/fact-check-read-the-gop-memo-released-by-house-intelligence-committee

Heres NPRs annotated memo

Interesting bit at the end from the NPR White House Correspondent

Sources close to the president told NPR that he had been telling friends in recent days that he believed the memo would undermine special counsel Robert Muellers investigation into Russian election interference and possible connections to the Trump campaign. Trump allies have long claimed that if not for the Steele dossier, commissioned by political research firm Fusion GPS by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clintons campaign there would be no Russia investigation. But what this line in the memo reveals is that the investigation was initially triggered not by the Steele dossier but by information about the activities of Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos. in October 2017 to lying to the FBI; he is cooperating with the Mueller investigation.


Bold emphasis mine. So not only did this leak secret information that the Russians did not know (dates Carter was under surveillance), not only is it omitting relevant information about the nature of the investigation, it's all done specifically with the goal to undermine confidence in the FBI and the investigation... By the person under investigation. Holy corrpt fucksticks

And it actually explicitly disproves the notion that the Steele dossier is what triggered the initial FBI investigation. These people are very, very dumb.

Isn't what Trump says his hopes are for the memo itself an admission of obstruction of justice? I mean he's not on the record saying it here. But if he were recorded saying he wanted to release this information and hoped releasing the memo would undermine the FBI and the ongoing investigation.
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twitterfriends
02/02/18 8:16:33 PM
#408:


Republicans are trying so hard to distract from #TrumpRussia, so sad
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BruceWayneJr
02/02/18 8:26:15 PM
#409:


Thank you for providing so much entertainment, trump chumps!
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The Great Muta 22
02/02/18 8:32:18 PM
#410:


Imagine blowing up your relationship and trust with the DoJ and the FBI over this guy:

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southcoast09
02/02/18 9:24:58 PM
#411:


This is going to open the door for some people to go to prison, who DESPERATELY need to be there. Goodbye, anti trump FBI. You committed treason and your freedoms are gone.

This is one of the biggest wins for the trump campaign because it proves that the accusations were FAKE and created by the dnc/FBI.
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Antifar
02/02/18 9:26:33 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
This is going to open the door for some people to go to prison, who DESPERATELY need to be there. Goodbye, anti trump FBI. You committed treason and your freedoms are gone.

Who is going to prison here?
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davyheinz
02/02/18 9:29:29 PM
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Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again
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Bishop9800
02/02/18 9:46:35 PM
#415:


davyheinz posted...
Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again


must be southcoast
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ZMythos
02/02/18 10:11:55 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
This is going to open the door for some people to go to prison, who DESPERATELY need to be there

You mean Trump, right?
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tommybel89
02/02/18 11:29:50 PM
#418:


Iwin2013 posted...
Am I the only one who sees that the DNC/Clintons paying people off rumor has been proven by this memo?

You're right. But sissies that pay attention to Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow have been primed to think that the memo is baseless.

Bottomline: one party weaponized the Bureau against the other party to win an election and lied about who funded the research.
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southcoast09
02/03/18 12:12:32 AM
#419:


davyheinz posted...
Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again

Bishop9800 posted...
davyheinz posted...
Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again


must be southcoast

I dont drink. Im fact, the only things I do drink are water and black tea.
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Bio1590
02/03/18 12:50:17 AM
#420:


southcoast09 posted...
davyheinz posted...
Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again

Bishop9800 posted...
davyheinz posted...
Somebody is drunk and on gamefaqs again


must be southcoast

I dont drink. Im fact, the only things I do drink are water and black tea.

That's not what your master Hoth said
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southcoast09
02/03/18 12:52:37 AM
#421:


Youre wrong
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Dampproof
02/03/18 12:52:41 AM
#422:


So Trump:refuses to implement sanctions against Russia despite being ordered to do so by Congress nearly unanimously months ago

We got meetings with Russian Intelligence. One of those people isn't even allowed into the country.

Now we get a nothing burger memo that was hyped in an attempt to declare war on the FBI. Because they're investigating Russian interference.

Can the GOP just rename themselves the new USSR now?
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Bio1590
02/03/18 12:59:33 AM
#423:


southcoast09 posted...
Youre wrong

Yeah I'm sure we all imagined that time he claimed you drank copious amounts of alcohol at your "meet-ups".
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southcoast09
02/03/18 1:21:02 AM
#424:


I used to drink, but I quit almost a 17 months.
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008Zulu
02/03/18 1:21:46 AM
#425:


Russian bots heavily hyped a memo that has turned out to be... nothing. Those bots are off to the Siberian Gulag.
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tommybel89
02/03/18 12:48:33 PM
#426:


Dampproof posted...
So Trump:refuses to implement sanctions against Russia despite being ordered to do so by Congress nearly unanimously months ago

We got meetings with Russian Intelligence. One of those people isn't even allowed into the country.

Now we get a nothing burger memo that was hyped in an attempt to declare war on the FBI. Because they're investigating Russian interference.

Can the GOP just rename themselves the new USSR now?

USSR? Aren't the Dems the ones that weaponized their own media and intelligence groups to swing / fix an election? Is that treason or sedition? I'm fuzzy on the details. That sounds very USSR-like to me.
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KazumaKiryu
02/03/18 3:37:13 PM
#427:


Looks like everyone's done downplaying this and spouting the CNN talking points...

Here are some things the media do not want you to know about the Nunes memo:

1.The so-called Russian Dossier, the creation of Fusion GPS and former British spy Christopher Steele, is a political document namely, opposition research, created for the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clintons 2016 presidential campaign.

2. Using what it knew was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign, in October of 2016, the FBI and DOJ obtained a FISA warrant from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to install a wiretap to spy on Hillary Clintons opponent the Trump campaign, specifically Carter Page. This spying would last for a year.

3. It should be noted that the FISA court was set up to stop foreign terrorists. The fact that the FBI and DOJ would use this court to not only wiretap an American but to wiretap a presidential campaign belies belief. Why Obamas FBI and DOJ used this court as opposed to a normal court is obvious. As you will see below, a normal court probably would have denied the wiretap.

4. Worse still, in the summer of 2016, Obamas DOJ had already opened a counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. The fact that nothing from that months-old partisan investigation was used to obtain the Page wiretap is revealing.

5. According to the Nunes memo, an essential part of the FISA wiretap application was the Steele dossier, which again is a partisan political document created for the Clinton campaign.

6. So essential was this partisan dossier, Andrew McCabe, the disgraced former-Deputy Director of the FBI, admitted in December that no surveillance warrant would have been sought without the dossier.

7. Not only did the FBI knowingly use a document from a partisan campaign to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on the competing campaign, the FBI knew the dossier was mostly salacious and unverified. We know this because disgraced former-FBI Director James Comey told us so in June of 2017.

8. According to the Nunes memo, Steele told [former FBI official Bruce] Ohr, he was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.'

9. Ohr, who was part of the FBIs anti-Trump Russian investigation, was not only friendly with Steele, Ohrs own wife worked with Steele at Fusion GPS doing opposition research (the dossier) against Trump for the Clinton campaign.

10. Despite a) knowing the dossier was opposition research paid for by the Clinton campaign b) knowing the dossier was salacious and unverified c) knowing Steele was desperate to destroy Trump d) the breathtaking conflict of interest in having an investigators own wife working on the dossier, the FBI still went to the FISA court to obtain permission to spy on Hillary Clintons opponent.
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Kim Kusanagi
02/03/18 6:04:39 PM
#428:


That is one hell of a deflection bro
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RaptorLC
02/03/18 6:29:02 PM
#429:


Amazing. Every word of TC's latest post was wrong.
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KazumaKiryu
02/03/18 6:30:55 PM
#430:


RaptorLC posted...
Amazing. Every word of TC's latest post was wrong.


Really? It's documented fact actually and I'd love for you to prove me wrong. Don't just come on here claiming that.
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RaptorLC
02/03/18 6:56:00 PM
#431:


KazumaKiryu posted...
documented fact


Hahahaha. Thanks for the laugh.

Still, Poe's Law. You're not doing it right. We're not supposed to be able to tell if you're being serious or just trolling. In this case, you're very obviously not serious.
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KazumaKiryu
02/03/18 7:04:38 PM
#433:


RaptorLC posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
documented fact


Hahahaha. Thanks for the laugh.

Still, Poe's Law. You're not doing it right. We're not supposed to be able to tell if you're being serious or just trolling. In this case, you're very obviously not serious.


This is your way of fighting this and it won't work. Downplay it all you want, the criminals who have been tainting our government are going to get what's coming to them.
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Bio1590
02/03/18 7:06:50 PM
#434:


KazumaKiryu posted...
RaptorLC posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
documented fact


Hahahaha. Thanks for the laugh.

Still, Poe's Law. You're not doing it right. We're not supposed to be able to tell if you're being serious or just trolling. In this case, you're very obviously not serious.


This is your way of fighting this and it won't work. Downplay it all you want, the criminals who have been tainting our government are going to get what's coming to them.

Yes, we know Trump and his buddies are going to jail.
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glitteringfairy
02/04/18 12:28:22 AM
#437:


I believe in you TC. Don't let em win
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008Zulu
02/04/18 12:30:00 AM
#438:


shockthemonkey posted...
I love TC complaining about criminals while dismissing an investigation that has already uncovered criminal activity. Womp.

What's funnier, is that though the Conservatives are calling for Hillary to be jailed, is that the Republican-led investigations in to her revealed no wrongdoing.
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Doom_Art
02/04/18 1:22:34 AM
#440:


You guys see Gowdy change his tune on this?

Clearly the DNC is threatening his family or something
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KazumaKiryu
02/04/18 1:38:34 AM
#441:


Doom_Art posted...
You guys see Gowdy change his tune on this?

Clearly the DNC is threatening his family or something


Gowdy went from saying this thing is worse than Watergate to retiring from politics and wanting to distance himself as much as possible. There's clearly foul play.

008Zulu posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
I love TC complaining about criminals while dismissing an investigation that has already uncovered criminal activity. Womp.

What's funnier, is that though the Conservatives are calling for Hillary to be jailed, is that the Republican-led investigations in to her revealed no wrongdoing.


What is this even talking about? The investigation into her revealed complete wrongdoing and corrupt agents in the FBI altered the wording to allow her to get off. We know for an absolute fact that they intended to exonerate her before the investigation was even started, because they wanted her to be president and didn't want to get on her bad side. That is already proven, guy. She's going to fucking jail.
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008Zulu
02/04/18 1:47:15 AM
#442:


KazumaKiryu posted...
What is this even talking about? The investigation into her revealed complete wrongdoing and corrupt agents in the FBI altered the wording to allow her to get off. We know for an absolute fact that they intended to exonerate her before the investigation was even started, because they wanted her to be president and didn't want to get on her bad side. That is already proven, guy. She's going to fucking jail.

I like how you provided proof, really backs up your story.
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KazumaKiryu
02/04/18 1:52:30 AM
#443:


008Zulu posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
What is this even talking about? The investigation into her revealed complete wrongdoing and corrupt agents in the FBI altered the wording to allow her to get off. We know for an absolute fact that they intended to exonerate her before the investigation was even started, because they wanted her to be president and didn't want to get on her bad side. That is already proven, guy. She's going to fucking jail.

I like how you provided proof, really backs up your story.


If you've paid attention to the news for the past 2 weeks and saw what Strzok and Page said, you'd already know it. The shit is out there and has been. Where is your proof of anything you've said? I'll post sources as soon as you do.
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Vertania
02/04/18 4:39:02 AM
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008Zulu
02/04/18 5:19:42 AM
#445:


Vertania posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/strzok-fbi-comey-clinton-letter/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/16/comey-drafted-clinton-email-exoneration-letter-before-completing-interviews-fbi-confirms.html
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/358982-early-comey-memo-accused-clinton-of-gross-negligence-on-emails

Yeah, all that is nice, but it doesn't say Hillary Clinton specifically ordered the FBI to try and wreck Trump. Given Trump's publicly broadcast 2016 campaign speeches regarding the Russians, it seems as if that is plenty of justification for the FBI to start investigating him. Considering Clinton never said anything like that, why should they dedicate resources to investigating her in this regard? As for the so-called charge of mishandling emails, how many in Trump's campaign/administration have mishandled emails? When Sessions was asked on the subject, he only answered with some variation of "I do not recall."
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Vertania
02/04/18 5:26:02 AM
#446:


008Zulu posted...
Yeah, all that is nice, but it doesn't say Hillary Clinton specifically ordered the FBI to try and wreck Trump.

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pinky0926
02/04/18 5:37:12 AM
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This topic is very enjoyable.
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Zeeak4444
02/04/18 5:38:59 AM
#448:


UrCa1988 posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76264103/895247660

Never forget lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo


Lmao.
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UrCa1988
02/04/18 3:01:55 PM
#450:


Bullet_Wing posted...
@Zeeak4444 posted...
UrCa1988 posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76264103/895247660

Never forget lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo


Lmao.

Message is no longer available. What was it? More KazumaKiryu tantrum?

psshwTK

Interesting that he no longer stands by this statement. Has he finally come to terms that there's absolutely nothing to this memo?
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KazumaKiryu
02/04/18 3:31:03 PM
#451:


I stand by it. This is the clam before the storm.
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CableZL
02/04/18 3:32:05 PM
#452:


KazumaKiryu posted...
I stand by it. This is the clam before the storm.


Clams are pretty meaningless before, during, and after storms, so it makes sense
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Bio1590
02/04/18 6:26:16 PM
#453:


Don't you miss the good old days where posters like TC would've actually gotten modded/banned for trolling?

Still wish they'd step up on their main though. I bet you it's southcoast lmfao.
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