Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1278

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What about Dark Detective Pikachu
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Big Bob posted...

Here's a strong newcomer for the character battles: Detective Pikachu.

Ehh.... Probably not honestly
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What about Pikachu but with Danny DeVito's head pasted on him

Or Danny DeVito's naked body
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I wonder how many people didn't vote the last option because they learned what friggatriskaidekaphobic meant from a previous PotD.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

I wonder how many people didn't vote the last option because they learned what friggatriskaidekaphobic meant from a previous PotD.

I wonder how many people forget they learned it from a previous POTD every time this poll pops up.
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how big is my kratos boost gonna be
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Depends on how big an effect the Dad Boost has on a character.

Have any other characters become family men (or women) between contests?
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Maybe not characters, but voters have!
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HaRRicH posted...

Maybe not characters, but voters have!

It has been a while since the last one...
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Amaterasu and Raiden.
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how would Spyro do in a modern contest with remake hype

does his prominence in skylanders over the years help him or hurt him? he was even in a netflix series. do kids even come to this site anymore
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ZenOfThunder posted...

how would Spyro do in a modern contest with remake hype

does his prominence in skylanders over the years help him or hurt him? he was even in a netflix series. do kids even come to this site anymore

Spyro's lone contest win was against Clementine and Reyn (who?) in a 3-way.

Winning against a character who's the fourth wheel of Walking Dead fame and a guy from a video game that was sold in the USA only as a GameStop exclusive, does not make you look good at all.

Not the mention, the 2002 Spyro/Morrigan match got doubled by 2010 Red/Ocelot in my very own tournament.

Wasn't Clementine from some Walking Dead game that wasn't even sold in retail?

It was DLC I think because first world problems.

And man, screw DLC because I bought quite a few Virtual Console games and it wouldn't let me transfer them to the Wii U. I'm done.

Skylanders, netflix, and kids are all totally irrelevant. Remake hype might be enough to solidify him as non-fodder and finally let him take down Morrigan, I guess? I wouldn't expect much more than that.
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Spyro would still lose to Morrigan, she still has TJF on her side.
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I think Spyro may be a low midcarder, since his games are now old enough to get him some nostalgia points (see: Crash).
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it's not like Crash did anything that impressive last time either

I say that as someone who picked him
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I figure Crash and Spyro had already hit their nostalgia peak in 2013, so I don't think they'd do any better these days. (Pokemon peaked in 2009 or so)

Hmm... how well would Spyro do against Crash before SFF, I wonder? Crash gets approximately 30% on Sephiroth through Kirby... and Spyro got 29% on Sephiroth? Ehhh, that's way too close. lol x-stats, huh?

Crash vs. Morrigan - who would you take? Actually... Crash should win that one. I had forgotten how close Spyro got to Morrigan...
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Crash beats Spyro head-to-head. His trilogy got more love at the time, and I'm guessing Crash's remastered trilogy came first due to higher demand.
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that Crash would probably break 60% on Spyro 1-v-1 as of right now.
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Crash would PS1 Mascot SFF Spyro into the ground
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Somehow, I think we're looking too much into this SFF thing.

Crash and Spyro share a fanbase, but that doesn't necessarily mean Crash would win in a blowout.
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he would though
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i think crash would blow the fuck out of spyro

...that exists somewhere already, i'm sure of it

also remember these



the very definition of a crossover fanbase
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Well, Spyro recently beat Crash on Deathbattle, so he's got that going for him.
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Big Bob posted...

Well, Spyro recently beat Crash on Deathbattle, so he's got that going for him.

I mean Spyro would probably win in a fight because Crash is kinda bad at fighting but yeah
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Isn't that the only thing that matters?

I think Squall would win in a fight against every other video game character personally
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if this were Who Would Win in a Fight, King of All Cosmos would always win

speaking of which how is Katamari's contest strength nowadays

nonexistent? oh ok
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Hey, Leon, I've been wondering...

What is your experience with Pokmon? Have you played any game from the series? 'Cause you could end up liking it if you haven't, imo.
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I've beaten Blue and that was more than enough.
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i'll be honest

i do not think the pokemon series has evolved much since gold/silver (no pun intended)

it's the same formula with some distractions and twists

i've played every mainline game since RBY (except B&W2) and some of them felt like an obligation, i dont think i even finished B&W1

pokemon switch better change the game up
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Playing Pokemon for the single player is like playing Smash for subspace emissary. PvP is what the game is about, especially after 3rd/4th generation.
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Not interested
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Yeah me either >_>
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i don't play multiplayer games at all, the only one i ever played extensively was Left 4 Dead

although I do play couch multiplayer funtime games, like I just played A Way Out with my girlfriend and it was cool

I also play Mario Party and Mario Kart because I am a human being and all human beings consume that form of media

but I do not like competitive multiplayer gaming, or even casually competitive (other than party games) which kind of begs the question: why do I keep coming back to Pokemon? Is it nostalgia? probably

to bring this back to contests: are there ANY non-story based, primarily multiplayer games that have characters that do well/would not be fodder in a contest setting? like better than... Soap and Captain Price?
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Surely Overwatch would have one or two characters that'd at least be over the fodder line even discounting rallies. Of course, how much over the fodder line is a matter of debate.

e: I'm also slightly curious how some of the Splatoon characters would do, though I doubt any would be above the fodder line.
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I thought of Splatoon as well. The inklings would probably do well since SMASH 5 HYPE.
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spooky96 posted...

Playing Pokemon for the single player is like playing Smash for subspace emissary. PvP is what the game is about, especially after 3rd/4th generation.

Which is a shame because for it's time the single player content of Gen I was actually really fine. It was a game boy rpg adventure and it did it well.

But they're all still designed like game boy era RPGs.
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alright imma do this thing to keep this topic bumped and maybe stir up some contest discussion

i'm going to go through every character in order of appearance and try to analyze if they would be stronger or weaker in a 2018 CB than their most recent CB performance

i do not claim to be an expert, this is a weird hobby for me and I was never a stat junky, I used to fire wildly and that got me 30th place in a contest once but I don't know which one. pretty proud of that big 30, that's probably where i peaked.

i also called knuckles > magus so clearly i contain some kind of untapped genius

ok here we go:

Mario
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Last Major Game Appearance: Super Mario Odyssey (2017)

It's Mario, since 2013 he's appeared on average in one million games per year. I think the question isn't "did Mario get stronger," it's "can Mario get any stronger than he already is?"

but then you remember that Mario lost to Vivi, but does that speak more for Ganondorf's popularity?

I think yes, Mario got stronger, but he still isn't like... Cloud strong. Could Mario beat Cloud now? I want to say that Odyssey helped out and that MAYBE he could pull off a 1-v-1 victory, but as soon as that FFVII remake gets some real footage Mario would be back to number #3

Servbot
Latest Contest Appearance: CBI (2002)
Last Major Game Appearance: Project X Zone (2013)

Servbot still gets play from Capcom, he's always making cameos, especially in Dead Rising games. Does that translate to combat strength?

Absolutely not, I used to play DR games in college and my friends would sometimes watch me in between classes, and almost ALL of these kids (video game majors, mind you) would just say "what's with the LEGO head?"

so yeah servbot is probably weaker than he was a decade and a half ago

Spyro
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Skylanders Imaginators (2016)

i think nothing speaks more to spyro's quality and relevance more than him going from being voiced by Elijah Wood to Justin Long

Take a look at Spyro's cutscenes in the latest Skylanders game:

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well i guess those games are popular with babies, and there's a netflix series that spyro is in (I think), but do you think anyone (including dumb babies) would wanna vote for that?

this would have been pretty cut-and-dry, but now Spyro is getting the remake treatment and everyone is going to be coming out of the woodwork claiming how they used to be hardcore Spyro fans, so yeah he's probably going to be stronger than the time he struggled to do well against freaking Clementine and Reyn, but he's still probably not going to overcome Morrigan after losing to her twice

Morrigan
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite (2017)

Morrigan is a weird one, I am a HUGE Morrigan fan (#1 waifu of all time), I love Darkstalkers, but I can't say I know many people who can say the same. It's a second-string Capcom franchise that's basically dead. Capcom brought back some of the games for a compilation back when the big fighting game boom was happening but it didn't sell well. Keep in mind that Capcom released like 5 other fighting games that year. They blamed it on the weak franchise, I blame it on Crapcom

Morrigan is weirdly iconic, she somehow managed to get 33% on Mario, and she's the founder of TJF (although Tina Armstrong is the champion of it). She'll probably always stay around that strength even tho she doesn't have games of her own anymore. Capcom loves reminding people she exists, and I know B8 loves her. We should nom Felicia to see how well other Darkstalkers reps would do.
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Terry Bogard
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIII (2004)
Latest Major Game Appearance: King of Fighters XIV (2016)

Terry is a Board 8 favorite who got quadrupled by Sonic in 2004. I don't think many people know him and it's not like "AAAH YOU OKAY? BUSTAH WOLF" took off as a major meme at any point. I just don't think KOF characters have a shot at doing well in these contests, GameFAQs isn't big on fighting games outside of SF and MK. Maybe Mai would have a shot?

Yeah I dunno if Terry is the same strength because he has nowhere lower to go or if he'd be weaker, but he def ain't stronger.

Aya Brea
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: The 3rd Birthday (2010)

Do people talk about PE anymore? I feel like that fanbase is super dead. When 3 came out for the PSP nobody seemed to really give a shit, not even PE fans. Too much of a gap between 2 and 3.

I forgot she even came back in CBIX, she got dunked on by Scorpion. I don't think we'll ever be seeing her again and if we do it'll have been so long since 3 and so so so long since 2 that she'd be pretty bottom-of-the-barrel fodder

Donkey Kong
Latest Contest Appearance: CBIX (2013)
Latest Major Game Appearance: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (2014/2018 port)

Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong, he always does OK in contests, remember how he choked to the undisputed King of Chokes, Master Chief? Yeah he's a video game icon but he's Donkey Kong.

People really like Tropical Freeze, but that doesn't change the fact that he's Donkey Kong

Like, he could have a Mario Odyssey or BotW level game, but that doesn't change the fact that Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong. I can't imagine anyone all of a sudden getting this huge boner for DK as a character that gives him a major power boost. Maybe he got a little stronger? Probably not much. Who would vote for DK when there are other characters that exist? DK is still (and always will be) Donkey Kong and he's still (and always will be) a distant to other characters like Zelda and Charizard who absolutely tore him up in CBIX.

maybe he will do better cuz memes, give him an EXPAND DONG picture and see if he does better

Bub
Latest Contest Appearance: CBI (2002)
Latest Major Game Appearance: uh

is there such a thing as nostalgia for Bubble Bobble?

I think the only character Bub could beat is maybe Tanner
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I think Mario would be stronger now than he was in 2013. The ebbs and flows of his strength can probably be directly tied to whether Nintendo is in or out of favor with the site at the time. In 2013, it wasn't since it was floundering during the Wii U era. Now that the Switch is out, Nintendo is back in.

I really wish Aya Brea were stronger. I love her, but the original Parasite Eve is the only one that was any good.
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Didn't Bub & Bob get rallied in one of the Gamespot contests?
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Sort of. It turned out to be vote stuffing, not a rally.
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