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Frolex 02/12/18 7:23:39 AM #1: |
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/06/sharing-fake-news-us-rightwing-study-trump-university-of-oxford
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scar the 1 02/12/18 7:25:40 AM #2: |
Many sides
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CyricZ 02/12/18 7:26:42 AM #3: |
Well... that's just a leftist study and itself fake news, it is it is.
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COVxy 02/12/18 7:30:50 AM #4: |
There was a topic on this yesterday:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76307900 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 02/12/18 7:38:59 AM #5: |
That's a wrong definition of fake news.
It assumes fake news is news that is fake. Real fake news is news where the Republican party/voters are portrayed negatively ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/12/18 7:41:28 AM #6: |
Fake news sharing in US is a rightwing thing, says a leftwing news site.
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ilovuuu 02/12/18 7:42:51 AM #7: |
Nomadic View posted...
Fake news sharing in US is a rightwing thing, says a leftwing news site. as opposed to another news site you like to post... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 02/12/18 7:44:18 AM #8: |
Leftists smugly think Rightists are dumb
Any other breaking news --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ilovuuu 02/12/18 7:46:15 AM #9: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Leftists smugly think Rightists are dumb are you ok? who hurt your feelings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thelema 02/12/18 7:46:43 AM #10: |
Well, most conspiracy theorists TEND to be right-wingers. Anybody who says otherwise is just fooling themselves. The lack of honesty is incredible here.
Left-wing media can be biased, sure, but tell me the name of a left-wing equivalent of Infowars (that is as popular). --- Look into my eyes, you will see who I am. My name is Lucifer, please take my hand ~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 02/12/18 7:50:28 AM #11: |
Thelema posted...
Well, most conspiracy theorists TEND to be right-wingers. Anybody who says otherwise is just fooling themselves. The lack of honesty is incredible here. DailyKos --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/12/18 7:51:31 AM #12: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Leftists smugly think Rightists are dumb Not really, study is literally just an analysis of a data aggregation of social media. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NINExATExSEVEN 02/12/18 7:59:19 AM #13: |
What exactly do they consider fake news? Is it news that's made up, or news that's true, but is delivered to the public a political angle?
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CruorComa 02/12/18 8:01:01 AM #14: |
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Blue_Dream87 02/12/18 8:03:13 AM #15: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Thelema posted...Well, most conspiracy theorists TEND to be right-wingers. Anybody who says otherwise is just fooling themselves. The lack of honesty is incredible here. Daily what --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ilovuuu 02/12/18 8:04:12 AM #16: |
dailykos isn't anywhere near as bad as infowars
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0AbsoluteZero0 02/12/18 8:04:24 AM #17: |
Any sane person already knew this, but its nice that they ran the study to confirm it.
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ilovuuu 02/12/18 8:05:39 AM #18: |
coffeebeanz
pls. I'm scared for your patients. retire now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 02/12/18 8:07:47 AM #19: |
Well, according to Trump, "fake news" means any news that says anything negative about him at all.
So, based on that definition, it would be the liberals who share fake news. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Epic-Vegan_420 02/12/18 8:29:48 AM #20: |
Funny because fake news in China is left wing
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luigi13579 02/12/18 8:38:42 AM #21: |
Yeah, this has been doing the rounds over the past few days.
Having read the study, it's maybe not as convincing or clear about its methods as I'd like. It's an interesting piece of research, but I'm not sure what it is beyond that. To be totally honest, I'm as anti-Trump as they come, and my default assumption is that Trump supporters share a shit-ton of "fake news" and conspiracy theories. I don't think for one minute they're unique in that, but it's definitely the sense I get and I do think they're particularly bad for it. I just wish the foundations of the study were a bit stronger. On to the study, the "junk news" sites in the list are mostly right-wing (which isn't necessarily a sign of bias if those sites genuinely are less reputable), because they breached at least 3 of 5 metrics they came up with. However, as far as I'm aware, they don't show exactly what metrics each site breached, and how they determined those breaches (I could be mistaken). Also, what sites did they eliminate from the list on the basis that they didn't meet these criteria (i.e. what was the full list of sites before filtering)? It's also helpful to be clear about exactly what the study states: On Twitter, the Trump Support Group shares 95% of the junk news sites on the watch list, and accounted for 55% of junk news traffic in the sample. So the 95% figure that has been banded about is the percentage of the sampled sites that they shared content from, not the actual raw amount as some have stated (which is 55%). Also, is something necessarily junk news just because it comes from a "junk news" site? Note the difference between "fake news" and "junk news". I think their term is a bit more inclusive (i.e. news that isn't necessarily outright false, but put across in a misleading way, with few sources, anonymous authors, overly emotional and partisan headlines, etc.). The sample is also fairly limited: From this reduced dataset of 10,691 [Facebook] pages, we collected all posts from the 90 days between October 20, 2017 and January 19, 2018 This reduced the dataset to 13,477 Twitter users. They had a dataset a few times larger and filtered it down. The time period was the ~3 months before the SOTU. Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Thoughts? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/12/18 8:49:57 AM #22: |
We've gone over this before when studies have been posted about fake news, but there is not a single accepted definition of what that term even means. And since it's a pop-culture term, the colloquial definition definitely matters.
In terms of completely fabricated news -- like conspiracy-type things or total fiction -- I would agree that those are mostly right-leaning. In terms of deliberately slanted and misleading coverage to give a biased view -- which is also how many people use the term 'fake news' -- those are more left-leaning. We have data to show this based on the historically negative coverage of Trump that goes well beyond even the lowest point of his disapproval ratings. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Epic-Vegan_420 02/12/18 8:50:58 AM #23: |
In some of these studies, memes are considered "news" which is just bizarre to me.
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COVxy 02/12/18 8:51:45 AM #24: |
The Admiral posted...
We have data to show this based on the historically negative coverage of Trump that goes well beyond even the lowest point of his disapproval ratings. I mean, there was also a lot of negative coverage about 9/11 too. Why can't the darned news media be fair and balanced?! --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/12/18 8:52:23 AM #25: |
COVxy posted...
The Admiral posted...We have data to show this based on the historically negative coverage of Trump that goes well beyond even the lowest point of his disapproval ratings. If you're comparing Trump to 9/11, just raise the white flag now and stop cluttering this topic. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/12/18 8:53:10 AM #26: |
The Admiral posted...
If you're comparing Trump to 9/11, just raise the white flag now and stop cluttering this topic. Misunderstanding a point doesn't make you look clever. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 02/12/18 8:54:04 AM #27: |
That doesnt evidence Your claim at all
Unless we accept some sort of weird mindset that coverage of a story should be made artificially neutral to create a stupid concept of fairness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ilovuuu 02/12/18 8:57:34 AM #28: |
i mean.
it's no suprise. right wingers are so gullible it hurts. remember when Ted Cruz denied having anything to do with the shutdown? like. Republican voters are just so gullible the politicians know they can lie about these things ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/12/18 10:07:37 AM #29: |
CruorComa posted...
Also, imagine being this guy and actually making a living by doing what he does. "conflicting information" lol --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 02/12/18 10:08:42 AM #30: |
The irony meter has just exploded.
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LadyLuckSmiles 02/12/18 10:28:30 AM #31: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Any sane person already knew this, but its nice that they ran the study to confirm it. --- Playing Now: WWE 2016 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_OujiDoza_ 02/12/18 10:31:59 AM #32: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
Leftists smugly think Rightists are dumb Smugly? not smug to post facts. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime |Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frozenshock 02/12/18 11:04:05 AM #33: |
The Admiral posted...
We've gone over this before when studies have been posted about fake news, but there is not a single accepted definition of what that term even means. And since it's a pop-culture term, the colloquial definition definitely matters. Negative coverage of trump is not in a vacuum. It's not being biased to criticize someone who acts like Trump acts sometimes. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 02/12/18 11:05:06 AM #34: |
I thought fake news was just real news that republicans don't want to accept
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scar the 1 02/12/18 11:52:39 AM #35: |
The Admiral posted...
but there is not a single accepted definition of what that term even means You know, I'm sure that if you look real close you'll find that this study defines it. If you have a problem with that definition, feel free to elaborate! --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 02/12/18 11:59:21 AM #36: |
scar the 1 posted...
The Admiral posted...but there is not a single accepted definition of what that term even means I already did. This is a left-leaning study that defines it in a way that supports their desired conclusion. Not everyone who uses the term "fake news" defines it the way this study does. And since it's a pop-culture term, they have no authority to say what the term means more than anyone else. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralZhao 02/12/18 12:02:10 PM #37: |
"It's a left-leaning study because it provides a conclusion I disagree with"
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CableZL 02/12/18 12:05:34 PM #38: |
The Admiral posted...
We have data to show this based on the historically negative coverage of Trump that goes well beyond even the lowest point of his disapproval ratings. Trump brings most of his negative coverage on himself via his behavior. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Saquon--Barkley 02/12/18 12:07:20 PM #39: |
0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
Any sane person already knew this, but its nice that they ran the study to confirm it. --- WE ARE! PENN STATE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/12/18 12:21:34 PM #40: |
The Admiral posted...
scar the 1 posted...The Admiral posted...but there is not a single accepted definition of what that term even means I'm sorry, I can't find where you discuss this study's definition. Could you direct me to a specific post? Maybe I skimmed something. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/12/18 12:24:55 PM #41: |
NibeIungsnarf posted...
That's a wrong definition of fake news. I got vertigo by reading this post --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ulyanyx 02/12/18 12:27:55 PM #42: |
"we declare this side fake news and look all the people you don't like who voted for trump shared this news VOTE DEMOCRAT"
if trump is playing 4d chess soon people should really wake up and realize the media only cares about who you're voting for on either side. no matter what you do in life you're a cog in a political machine and all that matters is your vote, or using someone as an inspiring story to get more people to vote. --- Sober from Alcohol since August 4th 2017 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 02/12/18 12:37:55 PM #43: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...That's a wrong definition of fake news. Fake news ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruorComa 02/12/18 4:12:36 PM #44: |
COVxy posted...
CruorComa posted... Multi-award winning journalism? Er.. . Yeah, imagine that. --- If you have a problem with potheads, throw your computer out the window. Why should you be able leech off the creativity of those you condemn? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/12/18 4:21:34 PM #45: |
CruorComa posted...
Multi-award winning journalism? Er.. . Yeah, imagine that Award winning, such that he cannot understand how two different things can happen at two different times. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/12/18 4:22:49 PM #46: |
Water is also wet.
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