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UnfairRepresent 02/16/18 7:55:25 AM #151: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
How are we violating the second amendment? A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If we introduce gun-control such as for example Banning AR-15s. Then we are infringing on the right to bear arms. Zeeak4444 posted...
Ah but can it tho? What if gun ownership is decreasing violent crimes? Something that's got some evidence to support it. What if we increase gun laws and we still have mass shootings but now more innocent people are dying too? It could hurt. and that's what conservatives fear. Zeeak4444 posted...
I don't get it. Didn't that just said you can own guns even if you're part of any military or milita group? Which just enforces that banning guns is infringing rights --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 02/16/18 8:00:14 AM #152: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...How are we violating the second amendment? "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues." A very key part of the ruling. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/16/18 8:01:16 AM #153: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Zeeak4444 posted...How are we violating the second amendment? This and the whole "well-regulated" qualifier in the amendment. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/16/18 8:03:50 AM #154: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...Zeeak4444 posted...How are we violating the second amendment? I don't see how that ruling dictates that banning AR-15s is not infringing on rights to bear arms. It seems more like it's talking about people owning unreasable gear, like RM-70 Multiple Rocket Launchers or concealed carrying AR-15s. It even uses concealed carry as it's example. I think "Any weapon whatsoever" is the key wording there. They're talking about extreme weapons. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 02/16/18 8:04:32 AM #155: |
To clarify as well, the support has been on upholding the tradition of prohibiting the carrying of unusually or dangerous weapons, which an AR can and should fall under.
Edit: @UnfairRepresent that's the whole point though. An AR can easily be classified as a extreme weapon. It's not unconstitutional to suggest something like that unless our Supreme Court suddenly means nothing. We've made decisions on the second amendment. We made a huge ruling on it in the 60's. One that completely contradicted the opinions previously held. Why is it suddenly unconstitutional to open the discussions again? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToonLinkWithGun 02/16/18 8:49:31 AM #156: |
byrone posted...
ToonLinkWithGun posted...You now who else used children to ban guns? Based on the stupidity of this response you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/16/18 9:03:43 AM #157: |
ToonLinkWithGun posted...
byrone posted...ToonLinkWithGun posted...You now who else used children to ban guns? I think it's a fair point. Responding to "Gun Controll helped stop mass shootings in every nation on Earth" with "Oh yeah? Well then that means it helped EVIL nations with EVIL rulers!" Is a stupid point. The Nazis promoted Animal Cruelty Laws, Drove Cars, Drank Milk, Went to school. You need more than "Well they did it therefore it's bad" Zeeak4444 posted...
I don't see how. Why is an AR especially dangerous? You think if this kid had a couple of Glocks instead of an AR he couldn't have killed 17 kids? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WaffIeElite 02/16/18 10:35:18 AM #158: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Sweeping gun bans and going against the nation's constitution would easily be more dictatorial than anything Trump has done so far. By a lot. Why are you a psychotic lunatic? --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 02/16/18 2:53:32 PM #159: |
@Kineth posted...
This and the whole "well-regulated" qualifier in the amendment. ;) @Zeeak4444 posted... To clarify as well, the support has been on upholding the tradition of prohibiting the carrying of unusually or dangerous weapons, which an AR can and should fall under. Be honest You have no fucking clue what an AR-15 even is, do you? @UnfairRepresent posted... The Nazis promoted Animal Cruelty Laws, Drove Cars, Drank Milk, Went to school. You need more than "Well they did it therefore it's bad" It wasn't just the Nazis. Literally every tyrant in the past 100 years has imposed strict gun bans. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 02/16/18 5:46:07 PM #160: |
I own three guns myself and my good friend owns a gun shop.
For some reason you're presuming that I only think ARs are a problem. That's another mistake on your part, I simply gave one example to support my argument on the second amendment. Try again Mal. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 02/16/18 10:31:11 PM #161: |
@Zeeak4444 posted...
For some reason you're presuming that I only think ARs are a problem. That's another mistake on your part, I simply gave one example to support my argument on the second amendment. So you want all semi-automatic rifles banned then? Because that's all an AR is. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/16/18 10:50:17 PM #162: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Why didn't we pack up this topic right here? It's not worth anyone's time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 02/16/18 10:51:39 PM #163: |
Lol what did Mal get suspended over
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Sephiroth1288 02/16/18 11:27:09 PM #164: |
Doom_Art posted...
Lol what did Mal get suspended over For pointing out that the FBI failed to do their job in this case and that grief doesn't make your opinions on a subject more valid than anyone else's. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/16/18 11:28:45 PM #165: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doom_Art posted...Lol what did Mal get suspended over Are you talking about where you pointed out how infrequent school shootings are and blamed FBI inaction on the Trump investigation? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 02/16/18 11:43:31 PM #166: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...Doom_Art posted...Lol what did Mal get suspended over No, those (factually accurate) posts are all still up. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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southcoast09 02/16/18 11:54:04 PM #167: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
I own three guns myself and my good friend owns a gun shop. Thats how it starts: -we can keep guns, but no more high capacity magazines!! -now we have to ban anything that military or law enforcement use -no more silencers, scopes, etc, but you still have your right!! -semi automatics must go! Then, before you know it, its illegal to own it at your house. We are finally in a position to solidify our right. Obama had the helm for eight years and ran his mouth about guns the entire time. He didnt do anything except generate fear that caused people to buy guns at a record rate. If his administration didnt put a stop to things, I highly doubt that the Trump Administration. --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 02/16/18 11:58:50 PM #168: |
Once again.........
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Sayoria 02/17/18 12:02:57 AM #169: |
Introducing the dictator checklist.
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Sephiroth1288 02/17/18 12:11:21 AM #170: |
Sayoria posted...
Introducing the dictator checklist. It's actually pretty telling that Maher's list is entirely comprised of meaningless aesthetic parallels rather than similarities based on actual concrete policies. Further he's just being dishonest; dictators don't criticize the media, they imprison the media. In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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r4X0r 02/17/18 12:12:41 AM #171: |
Kineth posted...
Pepys Monster posted...Liberals want to live in a police state. Makes about as much sense as the rest of the crap they endorse. Liberals: "The police are a bunch of raping murderous thugs out to KILL!" Also liberals: "You don't need a gun, you can just call the police." --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 02/17/18 12:13:36 AM #172: |
r4X0r posted...
Kineth posted...Pepys Monster posted...Liberals want to live in a police state. Liberals: "Pay for my healthcare!" Also liberals: "Keep your laws off my body!" --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeeak4444 02/17/18 12:44:31 AM #173: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
@Zeeak4444 posted...For some reason you're presuming that I only think ARs are a problem. That's another mistake on your part, I simply gave one example to support my argument on the second amendment. southcoast09 posted... Zeeak4444 posted...I own three guns myself and my good friend owns a gun shop. You all need to get off the slippery slope fallacies. I've supported legislation on background checks that weren't passed because fearmongering. I'll continue to support good legislation on gun control. Everything else about this topic is laughable. You all are shook. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 02/17/18 1:01:38 AM #174: |
Mal/Sep - who exactly are "progressives"? I've seen you use the term in this topic and others, but also refer to "liberals" and "Democrats".
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Skye Reynolds 02/17/18 1:05:54 AM #175: |
Kineth posted...
Ah, so liberals are anti-police and for a police state. Yes, that makes complete sense. I don't agree with the generalization of liberals, but I feel the contradiction more or less sums up the world of politics. Politics is hating all forms of water while stressing how much the world needs ice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/17/18 2:05:01 AM #176: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is. But you were just saying how Obama advocated breaking the 2nd Amendment. Why are you now all of a sudden talking about policy again? --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 02/17/18 6:24:26 AM #177: |
scar the 1 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is. How can you break an amendment/change? You can change it again yes but not break it. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snowman9267 02/17/18 6:26:52 AM #178: |
Lots of moronic chimps in this thread.
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creativerealms 02/17/18 6:41:05 AM #179: |
We dont want guns banned. Let that straw man die. No one believes it. Its just a lie you tell yourself to make you feel better about hating the left.
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spikethedevil 02/17/18 6:43:21 AM #180: |
The USA is the country that bans kinder eggs to protect kids but still has a massive gun fetish and yet they wonder why us other developed countries think they're backwards as fuck.
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creativerealms 02/17/18 6:45:27 AM #181: |
Kineth posted...
Pepys Monster posted...Liberals want to live in a police state. Staw men never make sense. Mal_Fet posted... Kineth posted...Pepys Monster posted...Liberals want to live in a police state. You never met a progressive in your life and only make them up in your head. --- No sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/17/18 8:55:34 AM #182: |
spikethedevil posted...
scar the 1 posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...In terms of policy, Obama was way more of a dictator than Trump is. Sorry, maybe "violate" is a better word to use huh --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth1288 02/17/18 10:35:53 AM #183: |
Zeeak4444 posted...
You all need to get off the slippery slope fallacies. Zeeak4444 posted... To clarify as well, the support has been on upholding the tradition of prohibiting the carrying of unusually or dangerous weapons, which an AR can and should fall under. What makes an AR an unusually dangerous weapon, @Zeeak4444 creativerealms posted... You never met a progressive in your life and only make them up in your head. I was paraphrasing an Eisenhower quote...........do you think Eusenhower never met any progressives? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 02/17/18 11:20:19 AM #185: |
Wait so Mal was suspended because he used the FBI's mishandling of the shooter to knock the Trump-Russia investigation?
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Sephiroth1288 02/17/18 3:27:13 PM #186: |
Doom_Art posted...
Wait so Mal was suspended because he used the FBI's mishandling of the shooter to knock the Trump-Russia investigation? Apparently. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 02/17/18 9:28:01 PM #187: |
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doom_Art posted...Wait so Mal was suspended because he used the FBI's mishandling of the shooter to knock the Trump-Russia investigation? Guess you shouldn't troll then. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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