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ledbowman
02/18/18 12:24:39 PM
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Do the mods just not know about these networks where some young men are radicalized into committing murder and violence? 17 dead last week.
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Deadpool_18
02/18/18 12:26:30 PM
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You literally cant have a proactive discussion on this board without a mod flexing an e-boner.
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ModLogic
02/18/18 12:27:13 PM
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mods if you would just explain why you locked a topic, you might have prevented a topic like this one.

feel free to pm me if you need me to run you through how to do your job.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 12:30:25 PM
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The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."
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BLAKUboy
02/18/18 12:37:15 PM
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StormFAQs gonna StormFAQs.
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A_Good_Boy
02/18/18 12:41:38 PM
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Mods are cowards, more news at 11.

It's a shame that they'll go to bat for a political ideology that's shown itself to be dangerous and radicalizes its young followers to commit acts of violence. But then again, this is the same place that counted Addy and Krystal as one of their members and still defends AssTank despite him clutching his pearls and hiking up his dress at the sight of black people.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 12:48:42 PM
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On December 16, 2016, Tanya Gersh answered her phone and heard gunshots. Startled, she hung up. Gersh, a real-estate agent who lives in Whitefish, Montana, assumed it was a prank call. But the phone rang again. More gunshots. Again, she hung up. Another call. This time, she heard a mans voice: This is how we can keep the Holocaust alive, he said. We can bury you without touching you.

When Gersh put down the phone, her hands were shaking. She was one of only about 100 Jews in Whitefish and the surrounding Flathead Valley, and she knew there were white nationalists and sovereign citizens in the area. But Gersh had lived in Whitefish for more than 20 years, since just after college, and had always considered the scenic ski town an idyllic place. She didnt even have a key to her houseshed never felt the need to lock her door. Now that sense of security was about to be shattered.

The calls marked the start of a months-long campaign of harassment orchestrated by Andrew Anglin, the publisher of the worlds biggest neo-Nazi website, The Daily Stormer. He claimed that Gersh was trying to extort a property sale from Sherry Spencer, whose son, Richard Spencer, was another prominent white nationalist and the face of the so-called alt-right movement.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/
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UnfairRepresent
02/18/18 12:51:08 PM
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Try being less agressive and adversial in your posts.

There can be a small difference in content but a huge difference in delivery depending how you word things.

"This guy just crashed into my car!"

"This stupid lib cuck ****** bitch just drunk drove or some shit because he's one of those people and rear-ended my pimpmobile like I rearended your mom last night so now I want to kill her!"

Are the same thing but one is reasonable and the other is a lunatic.
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DarkChozoGhost
02/18/18 12:53:08 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Try being less agressive and adversial in your posts.

There can be a small difference in content but a huge difference in delivery depending how you word things.

"This guy just crashed into my car!"

"This stupid lib cuck ****** bitch just drunk drove or some shit because he's one of those people and rear-ended my pimpmobile like I rearended your mom last night so now I want to kill her!"

Are the same thing but one is reasonable and the other is a lunatic.

Lol at unfair criticizing people for adding worthless fluff
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UnfairRepresent
02/18/18 12:56:34 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Lol at unfair criticizing people for adding worthless fluff

I've never broken the TOU and didn't once get moerated until after I upset a certain person a while back.

Fluff is fine. Content is not. Talk to people for discussion, not to insult and downtalk them or be emotionally aggressive.

When you're talking about "the alt-right" you're on crumbily ground to start with since it's such a vague and topical thing. If you talk like you just want to stir people up then you're going to be considered a troll or offensive.

No one got modded for pointing out how foolish it was for liberals to Punch that Spencer guy.

People did get moderated for screaming that liberals are violent idiots because Spencer got punched for being a Nazi.

You see the difference?
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The-Apostle
02/18/18 1:00:21 PM
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Stop whining about a "fair, next" moderation maybe? >_>

Also, if you're gonna insist on whining about it, the Hellhole board is that way. ---->
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DarkChozoGhost
02/18/18 1:01:51 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...

Lol at unfair criticizing people for adding worthless fluff

I've never broken the TOU and didn't once get moerated until after I upset a certain person a while back.

Fluff is fine. Content is not. Talk to people for discussion, not to insult and downtalk them or be emotionally aggressive.

When you're talking about "the alt-right" you're on crumbily ground to start with since it's such a vague and topical thing. If you talk like you just want to stir people up then you're going to be considered a troll or offensive.

No one got modded for pointing out how foolish it was for liberals to Punch that Spencer guy.

People did get moderated for screaming that liberals are violent idiots because Spencer got punched for being a Nazi.

You see the difference?

I stand by what I said
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muchdran
02/18/18 1:12:15 PM
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The terror of the alt right lol
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ledbowman
02/18/18 1:30:01 PM
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It's unreasonable and dramatic to compare groups that intentionally fill the heads of disaffected, often mentally unwell young men with violent racist radicalism and encourage them to call people's homes to make death threats and then get together and march with torches and flags of literal mass murderers and terrorists and then one of them is so inspired he attempts to commit mass murder right there on the spot and kills one person and wounds more to other terrorist groups?
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ledbowman
02/18/18 1:54:39 PM
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The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely-connected and somewhat ill-defined[1] grouping of white supremacists, neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis, neo-fascists, and other far-right[2][3][4] fringe hate groups.[5][6] Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic and white supremacist,[7][8][9] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[10][11][12][13] nativism and Islamophobia,[14][15][16][17][18] antifeminism, misogyny and homophobia,[10][19][20][21][13] right-wing populism[22][23] and the neoreactionary movement.[7][24] The concept has further been associated with several groups such as American nationalists and neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[14][23][24][25][26]

White supremacist[27] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so, according to the Associated Press, to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism.[28][29][30] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.[31]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
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ledbowman
02/18/18 1:55:30 PM
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No terror there! ^
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ledbowman
02/18/18 1:59:15 PM
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CQN4TM1
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muchdran
02/18/18 2:00:23 PM
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Lol
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:04:53 PM
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muchdran posted...
Lol

What's funny?
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scorpion41
02/18/18 2:06:54 PM
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Man someones being salty today...
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:11:42 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Man someones being salty today...

43 murders, plus likely 17 more last week.
https://www.salon.com/2018/02/09/surge-in-alt-right-violence-at-least-43-murders-in-the-last-four-years/
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scorpion41
02/18/18 2:13:10 PM
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ledbowman posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Man someones being salty today...

43 murders, plus likely 17 more last week.
https://www.salon.com/2018/02/09/surge-in-alt-right-violence-at-least-43-murders-in-the-last-four-years/


Meanwhile in Chicago...
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:15:59 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
ledbowman posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Man someones being salty today...

43 murders, plus likely 17 more last week.
https://www.salon.com/2018/02/09/surge-in-alt-right-violence-at-least-43-murders-in-the-last-four-years/


Meanwhile in Chicago...

Yawn
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 2:16:03 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
ledbowman posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Man someones being salty today...

43 murders, plus likely 17 more last week.
https://www.salon.com/2018/02/09/surge-in-alt-right-violence-at-least-43-murders-in-the-last-four-years/


Meanwhile in Chicago...


Comparing a city to a poltical ideology is stupid and makes no sense, nice deflection.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/18/18 2:21:22 PM
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Unfair makes good points actually tbqh
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:24:51 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Unfair makes good points actually tbqh

ledbowman posted...
It's unreasonable and dramatic to compare groups that intentionally fill the heads of disaffected, often mentally unwell young men with violent racist radicalism and encourage them to call people's homes to make death threats and then get together and march with torches and flags of literal mass murderers and terrorists and then one of them is so inspired he attempts to commit mass murder right there on the spot and kills one person and wounds more to other terrorist groups?

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NINExATExSEVEN
02/18/18 2:29:42 PM
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ledbowman posted...
The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."


So you got your answer, what's the problem?

Just like you can't generalize that all Muslims are terrorists, you also can't generalize that everyone on the right is a terrorist.
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scorpion41
02/18/18 2:30:06 PM
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ledbowman

So nothing on Chicago then? Not surprised.

Paper_Okami

Makes perfect sense since Democrats have indirectly been responsible for more murders than the alt-right terrorists could ever hope to achieve.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:35:14 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
ledbowman posted...
The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."


So you got your answer, what's the problem?

Just like you can't generalize that all Muslims are terrorists, you also can't generalize that everyone on the right is a terrorist.

I didn't. I said the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists.
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/18/18 2:41:51 PM
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ledbowman posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
ledbowman posted...
The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."


So you got your answer, what's the problem?

Just like you can't generalize that all Muslims are terrorists, you also can't generalize that everyone on the right is a terrorist.

I didn't. I said the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists.


Oh. Weird then that you got modded.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 2:53:44 PM
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A shy chess-player, a bullied introvert, a moderate conservative turned far-right troll these are the descriptions being offered of Alexandre Bissonnette since he was accused of perpetrating a deadly shooting at a Quebec City mosque.

Bissonnette looked nervous during his brief court appearance on Monday. He didn't say a word and shuffled in his handcuffs; before being escorted out, he was charged with 11 counts of murder and attempted murder.

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Debroise described Bissonnette as nice but anti-social. In their meetings, he said, Bissonnette often spoke admiringly of U.S. President Donald Trump and the French far-right politician Marine Le Pen.

Trump enjoys the support of the alt-right, a loosely defined political movement that includes white nationalists and white supremacists.

The alt-right is known, too, for its army of online trolls who circulate racist memes and virulent attacks on perceived opponents.

Within activist circles in Quebec City, Bissonnette has been considered an extremist troll in his own right.

In a Facebook post, a refugee support group said Bissonnette is "known to several activists in Quebec City for his pro-Le Pen and anti-feminist positions."

The group said Bissonnette is fond of using the term "feminazi" alt-right slang for those who advocate women's rights.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-alexandre-bissonnette-profile-1.3959581
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Butterfiles
02/18/18 2:54:39 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
ledbowman

So nothing on Chicago then? Not surprised.

Paper_Okami

Makes perfect sense since Democrats have indirectly been responsible for more murders than the alt-right terrorists could ever hope to achieve.

like Seth Rich am I right?
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LordRazziel
02/18/18 2:56:02 PM
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@BLAKUboy posted...
StormFAQs gonna StormFAQs.

Says the StormFAQs poster.
You must be racist!
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02/18/18 2:58:02 PM
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 2:59:53 PM
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Andrew Anglin
Weev
Richard Spencer

Some of the most prominent alt righters and they are also white supremacists
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Funbazooka
02/18/18 3:21:48 PM
#38:


If murder and terrorism are defining characteristics of the alt-right, as some left-wingers insist, that would mean the vast (like 99.9%) majority of the "alt-right" who don't murder are being mislabeled... when the most they ever did was probably vote for Trump.

It's the furthest one could get from a fair assessment.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 3:26:50 PM
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I saw images of my daughters face in gas chambers, with a smiling Trump in a Nazi uniform preparing to press a button and kill her. I saw her face photo-shopped into images of slaves. She was called a n***** and a d****.

When we both publicized some of the racist attacks I in National Review and Nancy in the Washington Post things took a far more ominous turn. Late the next evening while Nancy was, fortunately, offline attending a veterans charity event in D.C. the darker quarters of the alt-right found her Patheos blog. Several different accounts began posting images and GIFs of extreme violence in her comments section.

Click on a post and scroll down and youll see pictures of black men shooting other black men, close-up images of suicides, GIFs of grisly executions the kinds of psyche-scarring things that one cant unsee. Had I not deployed to Iraq and witnessed death up close, the images would have shocked me. I quickly got on the phone with Nancy, told her not to look at her website, and got busy deleting comments and blocking IP addresses, but in the meantime a few friends and neighbors had seen the posts.

The next Sunday, friends from church approached, expressing concern not just for our safety but for theirs as well. We live in a community where most of the streets have similar names, and its common for UPS drivers, FedEx deliveries, and friends to end up at the wrong house. They interpreted the images as threats, and they didnt want anyone to drive into our neighborhood, looking for the Frenches, intent on turning image into reality.

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Erick Erickson experienced his own ordeal more than a month before we did. After Erickson dis-invited Trump from his Red State gathering, angry Trump supporters showed up at his house. A grown man yelled at his children at a store, condemning their father for opposing Trump. Erickson wrote in the New York Times that his son is still fearful that Trump supporters will come back to their home.

In March, writer Bethany Mandel related her own experience. After tweeting about Trumps anti-Semitic followers, she was called slimy Jewess and told that she deserves the oven. It got worse:

Not only was the anti-Semitic deluge scary and graphic, it got personal. Trump fans began to dox me a term for adversaries attempt to ferret out private or identifying information online with malicious intent. My conversion to Judaism was used as a weapon against me, and I received death threats in my private Facebook mailbox, prompting me to file a police report.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/10/donald-trump-alt-right-internet-abuse-never-trump-movement/
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ledbowman
02/18/18 3:28:03 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
If murder and terrorism are defining characteristics of the alt-right

That's not what anyone is saying. Next.
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Funbazooka
02/18/18 3:32:57 PM
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Mischaracterizing the entirety of the alt-right is obviously the intent on display here.
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ledbowman
02/18/18 3:36:56 PM
#42:


Funbazooka posted...
Mischaracterizing the entirety of the alt-right is obviously the intent on display here.

ledbowman posted...
I said the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists.

Then I posted a bunch of examples.
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 3:48:38 PM
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The alt right are literally white supremacists. It's very odd that some posters here go out of their way to defend them.
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DarthAragorn
02/18/18 3:51:32 PM
#44:


ledbowman posted...
The most recent mod said "Again, do not imply that all people who are alt-right are the same as a known terrorist organization."

This seems pretty fair next bro
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Funbazooka
02/18/18 3:52:44 PM
#45:


ledbowman posted...
I said the alt-right is a breeding ground for terrorists.

ledbowman posted...
Funbazooka posted...
If murder and terrorism are defining characteristics of the alt-right

That's not what anyone is saying. Next.


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ledbowman
02/18/18 4:06:10 PM
#46:


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ledbowman
02/18/18 4:07:18 PM
#47:


Is "Yall-Qaeda" still allowed?
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KingCrabCake
02/18/18 4:09:17 PM
#48:


Tc wants the ban hammer bad
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YellowSUV
02/18/18 4:09:18 PM
#49:


ledbowman posted...
Is "Yall-Qaeda" still allowed?


lmao, haven't heard that one
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Paper_Okami
02/18/18 4:11:32 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Tc wants the ban hammer bad


Defending the alt right online won't Tomi Lahren fuck you
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