Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 163: Generous 2A Fault

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http://ktar.com/story/1973244/milo-yiannopoulos-will-no-longer-hold-phoenix-area-event-this-week/

Milo speaking event canceled due to death threats that the police deny ever receiving
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/03/politics/trump-maralago-remarks/index.html?ofs=fbia

Trump finally saying out loud the wannabe-fascist shit everyone always said he would.

Tl;dr Its a good thing President Xi will be President for life. Maybe we should try that one day.

Surprising comments by surprising people. Love you all despite your politics though.

'"He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great," Trump said. "And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day."
The remarks, delivered inside the ballroom at his Mar-a-Lago estate during a lunch and fundraiser, were upbeat, lengthy, and peppered with jokes and laughter.

Click bait. Take a joke out of context to headline with. Then even acknowledge it was a joke inside the article to cover bases while the ones who hate Trump irrationally will just run with it as "news".
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Welcome back. It looked like you got banned from some other site for a lame reason (as in shouldn't have been banned).

Even as a joke though, there's a non-zero chance Donald's base will be more behind that idea now. I'll want to see polling on that.
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HaRRicH posted...

Welcome back. It looked like you got banned from some other site for a lame reason (as in shouldn't have been banned).

Even as a joke though, there's a non-zero chance Donald's base will be more behind that idea now. I'll want to see polling on that.

What are you talking about?

And, no. No one wants a dictator of America in significant numbers when asked the question properly.
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I thought you took a break awhile for another forum that put a banhammer on you soon afterward...don't remember its name.
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HaRRicH posted...

I thought you took a break awhile for another forum that put a banhammer on you soon afterward...don't remember its name.

I have eaten 2 warnings and 2 2 week bans at ResetERA if that is what you are referring to. I have never not come here. I just do not post here as much anymore. I post moreso on NeoGAF and ResetERA and other forums than Board 8 on GameFAQs.

Yeah, my bans and warning on ResetERA were garbage, but I mean, I kind of knew the moderating would probably be that way based on how the forum came to be. Is what it is.
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Who's Alex Jones?

Most generic name I've ever heard.

Corrik posted...

And, no. No one wants a dictator of America in significant numbers when asked the question properly.

I guarantee if you did a national poll asking "Would you approve if Donald Trump was declared President for Life?" you would see at least 20% of respondents saying yes.
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Not_an_Owl posted...

Corrik posted...

And, no. No one wants a dictator of America in significant numbers when asked the question properly.

I guarantee if you did a national poll asking "Would you approve if Donald Trump was declared President for Life?" you would see at least 20% of respondents saying yes.

Because the question is basically just saying if you want what Trump brings to the office. Though I think it'd be closer to low tens.

The question needs to say, would you support removing term limits and letting a President control the government for as long as he was continually voted in?

I mean, some might go for that actually when I write it. How many democrats would say yes with dreams of bringing back Obama for instance? Or whoever on the Republican side?

That is to point out that Xi or whatever's change still requires re-election to my knowledge. He can just be voted in repeatedly.

That said, Trump ran on instituting term limits for politicians. While he is never going to do anything in regards to that, this suggestion is completely at odds with his platform he ran on.
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Not_an_Owl posted...

Corrik posted...

And, no. No one wants a dictator of America in significant numbers when asked the question properly.

I guarantee if you did a national poll asking "Would you approve if Donald Trump was declared President for Life?" you would see at least 20% of respondents saying yes.

I also don't think that's wholly unique to Trump. I'm sure Obama would have gotten similar.
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Reminder that it used to actually be that way
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Corrik posted...

That said, Trump ran on instituting term limits for politicians. While he is never going to do anything in regards to that, this suggestion is completely at odds with his platform he ran on.

Yeah it would be super weird for Trump to go back on something he said during the campaign.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-on-chinas-xi-consolidating-power-maybe-well-give-that-a-shot-some-day.27168/

This is an example of what these type of headlines can do with people who do not care for anything but using them to further their own hate.

The fact this was clearly a joke poking fun at Xi and China for something that would never happen in America (now) doesn't matter to such an extreme echo chamber.

This is why I say that you guys are Far Left a lot. You are about 1 thousand left voices echoing the same comments from getting to what you see in that link.

Oh well.
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Man, things were looking a lot better in this topic series for a while there.

Oh well.
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why is corrik back here
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https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-0.38&soc=-0.05

Not sure how I got that. I do not think I have substantially changed views. I normally am slightly right and slightly authoritarian.

This has me dead center middle. Only thing I can think has changed is that I believe a bit more in rehabilitation than punishment of criminals.

https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential/3393686700

If you add in dropped out candidates, Bernie is second.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=53.7&d=42.0&g=46.2&s=63.1

Centrist

https://tinyurl.com/yd4zfqcv

Fatherland - Family - Order

Pragmatism
Monarchy

LapisLazuli posted...

Man, things were looking a lot better in this topic series for a while there.

Oh well.

Yeah, I get it. Someone who can correctly point out a joke and breaks up your echoing of incorrect statements makes things worse for you.

However, someone needs to ground you to reality at some point in these topics if Lopen isn't gonna be here to do it.
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Corrik no amount of posturing will make those remarks a "joke" that is not in poor taste.

And this is hardly his first stance that would be leaning towards authoritarian.
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Corrik posted...

If you add in dropped out candidates, Bernie is second.

I mean yeah tied with Hillary and like 30% behind Trump
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik no amount of posturing will make those remarks a "joke" that is not in poor taste.

And this is hardly his first stance that would be leaning towards authoritarian.

It is poor taste if you wish to view it from that viewpoint sure. If you are viewing it from a standpoint of I think he is fascist or whatever, sure. If you are viewing it as a clean slate it is debatable. If viewing it as Trump is our president and would do what is best for us then it is purely tongue in cheek humor that is funny.

It depends where you are coming from.

If someone goes awol from work for 7 days and comes back with a slap on the wrist due to being buddies with the plant manager, and I say "Going awol for 7 days sure worked out for him. He got a nice vacation out of it. Maybe I should try that. Haha". It is humor that also criticizes.

You are coming in at it from an angle which makes it distasteful. He is speaking to a Republican fundraiser. And the joke was met with laughter because it hit the chord with the intended audience.
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Corrik, you thinking you have any effect in changing the views of anyone in this topic series in any direction other than further away from you is the only funny thing you've said to date.
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Corrik posted...

If viewing it as Trump is our president and would do what is best for us

Why would anyone view it as this?
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Kenri posted...

Corrik posted...

If you add in dropped out candidates, Bernie is second.

I mean yeah tied with Hillary and like 30% behind Trump

To be fair, Bernie was higher when I took it. Something has changed since initially taken. I wonder if he changed a stance and they changed their formula around it.

I have no idea how Obama is higher than Romney in 2012.
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Shaduln posted...

Corrik posted...

If viewing it as Trump is our president and would do what is best for us

Why would anyone view it as this?

Because not everyone is a democrat.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik, you thinking you have any effect in changing the views of anyone in this topic series in any direction other than further away from you is the only funny thing you've said to date.

Nobody on the internet is going to change their views no matter how much you argue.

However, I can ground your propaganda when possible. You have tried to assert Trump is going to try to do something he campaigned against directly while also ignoring the fact he was making a joke to contextualize the comment.
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Trump has consistently gone against almost everything he campaigned on.
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It's pretty poor timing for a joke like that too, with republican areas declining to hold special elections they feel they might lose.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Trump has consistently gone against almost everything he campaigned on.

Consistently?

Tax Cuts campaigned on. Happened.
Immigration Temp ban. Happened.
Wall funding. Attempting.
Conservative Supreme Court nominee. Happened.
Give more power to generals to do what is necessary versus ISIS. Happened.
Remove Obamacare. Attempted.
Remove regulations. Happened.
Support coal jobs. Happened.
Infrastructure. Attempting.
More deportation of illegals. Happening.

If anything, he has done it even on things he should have backed off on.
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it's more like when you're the leader of a nation you can't just have fun and joke around about being shitty. shit matters, yo

this isn't supposed to be an easy job
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JeffreyRaze posted...

It's pretty poor timing for a joke like that too, with republican areas declining to hold special elections they feel they might lose.

And the ridiculous thing about that is if they think they're going to lose, then that means they acknowledge they expect a majority of their voters want them gone, and thus they're adamantly refusing to serve their people.
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mnkboy907 posted...

JeffreyRaze posted...

It's pretty poor timing for a joke like that too, with republican areas declining to hold special elections they feel they might lose.

And the ridiculous thing about that is if they think they're going to lose, then that means they acknowledge they expect a majority of their voters want them gone, and thus they're adamantly refusing to serve their people.

Republicans are solely interested in maintaining their own power. This isn't new.
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Corrik posted...

Support coal jobs. Happened.

glad we can check this one off and never go back to it again
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Corrik posted...

Support coal jobs. Happened.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/11/13/trump-coal-industry-election

"Whoops"
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Corrik posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik no amount of posturing will make those remarks a "joke" that is not in poor taste.

And this is hardly his first stance that would be leaning towards authoritarian.

It is poor taste if you wish to view it from that viewpoint sure. If you are viewing it from a standpoint of I think he is fascist or whatever, sure. If you are viewing it as a clean slate it is debatable. If viewing it as Trump is our president and would do what is best for us then it is purely tongue in cheek humor that is funny.

What exactly has Trump ever said that has caused you to give him the most intense benefit of the doubt?

It depends where you are coming from.

If someone goes awol from work for 7 days and comes back with a slap on the wrist due to being buddies with the plant manager, and I say "Going awol for 7 days sure worked out for him. He got a nice vacation out of it. Maybe I should try that. Haha". It is humor that also criticizes.

You are coming in at it from an angle which makes it distasteful. He is speaking to a Republican fundraiser. And the joke was met with laughter because it hit the chord with the intended audience.

He says multiple times "I think it is great, I think President Xi is great" and this is bookended by his usual complaints and tangents--none of which are jokes--but yeah, this one thing he in the middle of his speech is 100% dry sarcasm.

In order for you to believe it's sarcasm, you also have to believe President Trump is talking shit about the President of China in front of a bunch of people like that.

Come on, Corrik.
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Also lmfao can you IMAGINE the shock and horror from Fox News, Corrik, and the Republicans if Obama had made that exact same comment?

lmao, it'd have literally started a new Civil War.

I'll concede it could have been a joke in exchange for the confirmation that Trump gives zero respect to the office of the Presidency, and doesn't take it seriously or care at all. Do we have a deal?

That's the kind of shit a sitting President just shouldn't say, ESPECIALLY a President who's divided the country so badly.
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I am completely willing to believe that Trump trash-talked the President of China in front of a bunch of people. Trump is a loudmouthed buffoon, and despite being in charge of America's diplomats, it's clear that he has no concern whatsoever for America's diplomatic relations.

I do think that "president for life" is a joke, though. (For the record, I don't think that pledging to respect the outcome of the election only if he won was a joke, and I don't think either comment is at all becoming of a nominee, let alone elected official.)
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Corrik posted...

Support coal jobs. Happened.

As somebody actually from coal country

lmao
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MalcolmMasher posted...

(For the record, I don't think that pledging to respect the outcome of the election only if he won was a joke

This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes it difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Oh heh, people think the "president for life" thing was a joke?

Trump doesn't do the kind of humor that it would have to be to be the kind of joke people think it is; in other words, he doesn't do:

"It would be great for me to be president for life, right? Haha, I am just kidding, I wouldn't really want to do that but I am pointing out how ridiculous it is for Xi Jinping to do this and I understand that some people view me in a similar light."

That is WAY out of Trump's range. He doesn't do this kind of humor that relies on self-awareness, self-deprecation, and a general sense of irony. The kind of joke he is doing:

"It would be great for me to be president for life, right? Okay, I know you can't, but, right?"

In this case he's sort of joking but he's also 100% virtue signalling. We know from heaps of evidence that Trump looks up to authoritarian strongmen and models himself after them, and it's a pretty good bet that "president for life" sounds pretty nice in Trump's mind. It's something he would like and he is making that known. So yes, in a sense he is joking, but in a sense he is very much not.

Corrik posted...

Immigration Temp ban. Happened.

Does anyone know what the status on this ban is BTW?
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-animal-farm-ban-censorship-george-orwell-xi-jinping-power-letter-n-a8235071.html

Wuh....
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Wi**i*g
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Paratroopa1 posted...

"It would be great for me to be president for life, right? Okay, I know you can't, but, right?"

In this case he's sort of joking but he's also 100% virtue signalling. We know from heaps of evidence that Trump looks up to authoritarian strongmen and models himself after them, and it's a pretty good bet that "president for life" sounds pretty nice in Trump's mind. It's something he would like and he is making that known. So yes, in a sense he is joking, but in a sense he is very much not.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if he's joking or not because the intent is the same either way.
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Personally I dont really care about term limits.

Its kind of sad that we need them.
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Banning a letter is literally something out of Metal Gear.
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Kojima for President.
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Kenri posted...

Corrik posted...

That said, Trump ran on instituting term limits for politicians. While he is never going to do anything in regards to that, this suggestion is completely at odds with his platform he ran on.

Yeah it would be super weird for Trump to go back on something he said during the campaign.

Qft
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xi jipig
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I feel like people aren't upset enough about Xi Jinping, he is a top tier scumbag

It's awful but it's in China and we have domestic problems to deal with.
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