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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:10:40 PM #1: |
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:27:03 PM #3: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. not even close the movement skills required for QWTF completely dwarf modern FPS games by a huge margin, not to mentioning proper aim and positioning are far more important in QWTF given the generous amount of projectile based weapons compared to ADS hitscan that runs rampart in modern FPS ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/27/18 12:30:50 PM #4: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. ![]() --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:34:53 PM #5: |
eston posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. modern games dont have skills like trimping, concaim, sharking, true bunnyhopping, rampslides, chophopping, concjumping, etc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romulox28 02/27/18 12:35:44 PM #7: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
modern games dont have skills like trimping, concaim, sharking, true bunnyhopping, rampslides, chophopping, concjumping, etc lol @ people who call themselves gamers but dont know about trimping and chophopping and dringling --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 02/27/18 12:36:43 PM #9: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
modern games dont have skills like trimping, concaim, sharking, true bunnyhopping, rampslides, chophopping, concjumping, etc eston posted... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/27/18 12:37:38 PM #10: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
modern games dont have skills like trimping, concaim, sharking, true bunnyhopping, rampslides, chophopping, concjumping, etc ![]() --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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QueenCarly 02/27/18 12:37:54 PM #11: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. I don't really agree with that. Modern shooters are so far removed from 90s/early 2000s arena shooters that they really only have the first person view and guns in common. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:40:39 PM #13: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. no, not really games like QWTF and TFC had a fucking huge skill floor and ceiling because of the many different mechanical skills required for them they required more than just good aim and positioning the movement systems in those games have been all but neutered in modern FPS gaming and concaim alone takes more mechanical skill than pretty much the entirety of modern FPS (you effectively have to learn 2 different ways of aiming in TFC with hitscan weapons) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:42:13 PM #14: |
Asherlee10 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted... not really, these games were designed around complex movement skills and created a measurable skill difference in players beyond basic aiming and positioning ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delta_F14 02/27/18 12:44:30 PM #15: |
Gamers just don't enjoy arena style games anymore, most popular FPS games have a low skill floor. The only FPS game I really play anymore is TF2, which has most of the complex movements styles, and Titanfall 2, which has a few.
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:45:42 PM #16: |
Delta_F14 posted...
TF2, which has most of the complex movements styles no it doesnt TF2 got rid of pretty much every mechanical skill from the franchise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 02/27/18 12:47:42 PM #17: |
making a larger divide between skilled and unskilled players is not the same as making the game unbalanced
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Lathissamus 02/27/18 12:50:09 PM #18: |
eston posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...modern games dont have skills like trimping, concaim, sharking, true bunnyhopping, rampslides, chophopping, concjumping, etc I'm dead --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 02/27/18 12:52:09 PM #19: |
"I'm not good at modern FPS games so therefore they require no skill" - TC
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:55:35 PM #21: |
iClockwork posted...
"I'm not good at modern FPS games so therefore they require no skill" - TC nowhere did i say modern games take no skill ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/27/18 12:56:21 PM #22: |
I know about crumpetdashing if that helps.
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:58:01 PM #23: |
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crumpetdashing yeah ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delta_F14 02/27/18 12:58:05 PM #24: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Delta_F14 posted...TF2, which has most of the complex movements styles Huh, I just checked the wiki and your right, TFC has a lot more movement techniques than TF2. Really the only advanced movements that TF2 has is either rocket or sticky jumping. Still more than most modern FPS games though. --- Gives me conniptions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/27/18 12:58:10 PM #25: |
But do you know about gobhobbling, tramwhamming, or cogtumpering?
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Lathissamus 02/27/18 12:58:53 PM #26: |
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 12:59:21 PM #27: |
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TheMarthKoopa 02/27/18 1:05:28 PM #29: |
Can't make any money if you don't appeal to the people that want to be the best player but don't want to actually put in any effort to be good
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 1:10:49 PM #31: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
more realistic and balanced movement ah yes, how can we forget dolphin diving in battlefield, jetpacks and baseball slides in CoD, also snaking in CoD, etc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 1:11:49 PM #32: |
Asherlee10 posted...
You get a bunch of basement-dwelling tryhards who spend 13 hours a day on a game mastering cheap mechanics and the userbase drops to near zero. TFC and QWTF were both bigger than counter strike at one point the_more_you_know.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/27/18 1:18:05 PM #35: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Asherlee10 posted...You get a bunch of basement-dwelling tryhards who spend 13 hours a day on a game mastering cheap mechanics and the userbase drops to near zero. at one point userbase drops to near zero. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 02/27/18 1:21:44 PM #36: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
eston posted...I_Stay_Noided posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. Those all sound like made-up mechanics that came about because of unrealstic game design. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InYourWalls1 02/27/18 1:25:36 PM #37: |
I tried out this game called Fortnite recently -you can build structures in real time which makes for really interesting and creative engagements. Might be up your alley TC
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ThePieReborn 02/27/18 1:25:39 PM #38: |
"Cheap mechanics requiring significant investment to actually perform." Quite the oxymoron if I've ever seen one.
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divot1338 02/27/18 1:27:25 PM #39: |
I_Stay_Noided posted...
eston posted...I_Stay_Noided posted...Asherlee10 posted...I don't get it. That looks like the same style of fighting and fun that a lot of modern day FPS games have today. What does it mean that I understood you before but I dont know wtf you just said? --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 02/27/18 1:29:38 PM #41: |
ThePieReborn posted...
"Cheap mechanics requiring significant investment to actually perform." Quite the oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Cheap in the sense that they are basically just exploits --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 02/27/18 1:31:01 PM #42: |
eston posted...
ThePieReborn posted..."Cheap mechanics requiring significant investment to actually perform." Quite the oxymoron if I've ever seen one. I don't see how that detracts from their legitimacy. Why should people not be rewarded for acquiring a better understanding of how the game works? Should my thousands of hours going through jump maps in TF2 not allow me to lord over the people who have not devoted the same amount of effort? --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gna647 02/27/18 1:31:33 PM #43: |
TC is the same type of gamer that will still be playing melee over any new fighting game after two decades
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 1:31:46 PM #44: |
eston posted...
ThePieReborn posted..."Cheap mechanics requiring significant investment to actually perform." Quite the oxymoron if I've ever seen one. nope, valve specially made patches to tweak those skills rather than outright remove them prior to steam bunnyhopping had an unlimited movement speed increase, once steam was released TFC was patched to have bhop cap at 170% speed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 1:32:19 PM #45: |
gna647 posted...
TC is the same type of gamer that will still be playing melee over any new fighting game after two decades A. im a functioning 28 year old so i dont play smash B. its not a fighting game ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 02/27/18 1:34:01 PM #47: |
Asherlee10 posted...
ThePieReborn posted...eston posted...ThePieReborn posted..."Cheap mechanics requiring significant investment to actually perform." Quite the oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Why does their presence being intended or not have an impact there? And how is it an exploit if it's the logical end result of the physics engine? --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InYourWalls1 02/27/18 1:34:21 PM #48: |
Asherlee10 posted...
The building that is required in Fortnite ruins it for me, personally. That clip in post #37 looks more like a building-fight than a gunfight. Yeah definitely, but that's part of the appeal and what sets it apart from a typical gunfight for me. You're constantly jockeying for position, looking for openings and trying to protect yourself. It makes for some intense engagements --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I_Stay_Noided 02/27/18 1:35:32 PM #49: |
Asherlee10 posted...
Because they are exploits and unintended mechanics incorrect ... Copied to Clipboard!
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halomonkey1_3_5 02/27/18 1:38:08 PM #50: |
why won't anyone make a good FPS these days
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