Current Events > Why do Americans feel so entitled to enter a restaurant 10 minutes before...

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...closing?

Why is it so important that you have a sit down restaurant experience right before a restaurant is going to close?
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Shut the fuck up
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How would you even have time to eat 10 minutes before closing? It takes around 10 minutes for the food to even arrive
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There should be a last call kinda thing for restaurants.
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MakoReizei posted...

How would you even have time to eat 10 minutes before closing? It takes around 10 minutes for the food to even arrive

Dunno why but millions of people do it.
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Flockaveli posted...

There should be a last call kinda thing for restaurants.

There is. They close the kitchen 20-30 minutes before the restaurant closes, and they let people know that.
But people are so entitled they don't give a shit and expect to be served anyways.
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Closing at 10pm means they close the kitchen 10-15 minutes before closing, but they still do refills and offer take out bags for any customers eating . It does not mean they have to offer a table to every customer that wants to enter right before closing.
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Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job
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Anisoptera posted...

Closing at 10pm means they close the kitchen 10-15 minutes before closing, but they still do refills and offer take out bags for any customers eating . It does not mean they have to offer a table to every customer that wants to enter right before closing.

Wrong, the kitchen closes when the restaurant closes.
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Open means open.
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Lock the doors if you aren't accepting any more diners. If your doors are open you are open for business.

I used to manage a small liquor chain years ago. Can't sell past 10 pm by law. At five to the hour I locked the doors and opened them only to let people out. It's not complicated.
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Restaurants dont do that extra hour and a half of cleanup after the doors close?
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Flockaveli posted...

Restaurants dont do that extra hour and a half of cleanup after the doors close?

They do, but all entitled workers care about is getting out early and get pissed when last minute customers deny that.
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In my country nobody would think of coming to a restauraunt even 8 hours before it closes. Entitled Americans.

Flockaveli posted...

Restaurants dont do that extra hour and a half of cleanup after the doors close?

They can't have employees staying longer because a party of 10 demands a table 5 minutes before playing. They are on a set a schedule. If they already worked 8 hours that day they aren't allowed to do overtime if it's a franchise restaurant.
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I personally never do this because I know it sucks when you're already preclosing and someone comes in and you have to use something you've already cleaned and put away. So I try to avoid it when I can just as a courtesy to the employees.

However, I don't have a problem with the people that do come in right before closing. I've never seen a restaurant tell people the kitchen closes 20-30 minutes before the doors, as another user suggested. The kitchen closes when the doors lock.

That last 30 minutes isn't just for refills.. that's what the time after the doors lock is for and the servers usually give you a heads up at that point that you need to get your last orders in.

Lol I love entitled restaurant workers. You deserve to leave early, you deserve tips, what don't you deserve?
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EastKingStar posted...

Lol I love entitled restaurant workers. You deserve to leave early, you deserve tips, what don't you deserve?

This is my trade off. I won't come in 10 minutes before closing but I won't tip.
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Anisoptera posted...

Flockaveli posted...

Restaurants dont do that extra hour and a half of cleanup after the doors close?

They can't have employees staying longer because a party of 10 demands a table 5 minutes before playing. They are on a set a schedule. If they already worked 8 hours that day they aren't allowed to do overtime if it's a franchise restaurant.

Franchise restaurants aren't subject to different FLSA laws. This sounds like a scheduling problem the manager has. If they need to avoid overtime and know this is an issue for their location then they need to schedule accordingly. For instance, even though I can schedule my part-time workers up to 30 hours a week to keep them at part-time, we had a policy not to schedule them over 25 hours just to give us some wiggle room. Same concept here, just with 40 hours.

EastKingStar posted...

Lol I love entitled restaurant workers. You deserve to leave early, you deserve tips, what don't you deserve?

You do realize they are there for like 2 more hours after it closes cleaning up and stocking right? Having to entertain a party minutes before closing can extend that by hours.

What is it with people becoming unconscionable assholes when it comes to food service? Is it like the only time in your lives you have power over other human beings and you abuse that power as much as you can?
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Dont want to work till end of shift.

Wants $15/hr
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meestermj posted...

Flockaveli posted...

There should be a last call kinda thing for restaurants.

There is. They close the kitchen 20-30 minutes before the restaurant closes, and they let people know that.
But people are so entitled they don't give a shit and expect to be served anyways.

Then kick them out
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voldothegr8 posted...

Anisoptera posted...

Closing at 10pm means they close the kitchen 10-15 minutes before closing, but they still do refills and offer take out bags for any customers eating . It does not mean they have to offer a table to every customer that wants to enter right before closing.

Wrong, the kitchen closes when the restaurant closes.

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Drpooplol posted...

Shut the fuck up

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J E S U S posted...

Dont want to work till end of shift.

Wants $15/hr

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Deja Blue 03 posted...

Anisoptera posted...

Flockaveli posted...

Restaurants dont do that extra hour and a half of cleanup after the doors close?

They can't have employees staying longer because a party of 10 demands a table 5 minutes before playing. They are on a set a schedule. If they already worked 8 hours that day they aren't allowed to do overtime if it's a franchise restaurant.

Franchise restaurants aren't subject to different FLSA laws. This sounds like a scheduling problem the manager has. If they need to avoid overtime and know this is an issue for their location then they need to schedule accordingly. For instance, even though I can schedule my part-time workers up to 30 hours a week to keep them at part-time, we had a policy not to schedule them over 25 hours just to give us some wiggle room. Same concept here, just with 40 hours.

A lot of restaurants don't have enough employees to schedule it where people don't get overtime. People quit because of the stressful environment that is created by the customers. Most people can't handle entitled guests. People act extra entitled at restaurants. I worked in one and it was hard to have enough employees. People would quit left and right because they can't handle customers dehumanizing them all day long. Look at the way people are talking about them here.

I doubt any of these people trashing restaurant employees have ever worked in a restaurant(cue the part where everyone is now going to say they worked in one). Everyone I've ever met that has worked in one in the past treats the employees when they are the customers with absolute respect because they know it's so much worse than what people who have never worked in one think it is.
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Because more often than not they were raised without manners, or it wasnt a problem where they lived before.

Anisoptera posted...

They can't have employees staying longer because a party of 10 demands a table 5 minutes before playing. They are on a set a schedule. If they already worked 8 hours that day they aren't allowed to do overtime if it's a franchise restaurant.

Thats pretty cute.

What really happens is their next shift gets taken away or their shift gets cut in half, if they are about to hit OT for the week.

Always a little asterisk *clock out times depends on business
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Easy solution: if someone comes in right before closing, politely tell them it's too late, and if they get angry and demand to be served, then serve them and spit in their food.
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If you don't want people to come in 10 minutes before 10 o'clock then you should close up 950 instead.
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Why do non Americans feel so entitled to never tip?
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This conversation always helps separate the entitled boys from the mature men.
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YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal
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MarqueeSeries posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal

it is in the UK >.>
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Why do we have this topic every week
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Parappa09 posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal

it is in the UK >.>

The US, depending on state, has fuck all for workers rights.

I have a friend that used to work 7 days a week in a factory, with one day off every 21 days.
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MarqueeSeries posted...

Parappa09 posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal

it is in the UK >.>

The US, depending on state, has fuck all for workers rights.

I have a friend that used to work 7 days a week in a factory, with one day off every 21 days.

damn thats insane

is their pay good at least?
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The listed time is usually for the dining area. Kitchens often close earlier and drive thrus often stay open later. Anyone who goes in 10 mins before close and expects to sit and eat past the time the dining area closes is an asshole.
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Sounds like this is a workers rights issues since it seems the workers are the ones who get screwed over in wages. Don't see that changing in America though since workers rights are laughed at in American culture.
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Parappa09 posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

Parappa09 posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal

it is in the UK >.>

The US, depending on state, has fuck all for workers rights.

I have a friend that used to work 7 days a week in a factory, with one day off every 21 days.

damn thats insane

is their pay good at least?

Not imo. Kraft Heinz hires people as b class temp workers, making $11/hr.

If I'm going to be literally working my life away, I better be pulling out of the parking lot in one of my 5 Bugattis and driving home to my 10 bedroom mansion
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It's kind of funny really, there was a millenials vs. baby boomers topic about millenials being nicer to workers in general than baby boomers who will often complain or try to make an uproar to workers if things don't go their way, because it's pretty damn relevant to this topic. I remember working at Carrows (yes, it was that long ago) and there will be times when people would enter the restaurant 10 minutes before closing time. For younger people, they would on average ask politely if they can still be served, which we would reply no because the kitchen is going to close soon and they would leave with saying "thanks anyways". However, when it came to older people, they would on average complain and make a big fuss if you didn't let them in. Often they would also try to compromise like say "hey man, we're only going to order appetizers" or "Come on, just make an exception with us. We're giving you guys business!" With that said, it's all purely anecdotal because I worked there for only 6 months, but that was what I experienced.
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MarqueeSeries posted...

Parappa09 posted...

MarqueeSeries posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Why do restaurant workers feel so entitled about not working any over time? I work it all the time at my job

They're not the only ones. The factory I work for forces it all the time. I'm no stranger to 50+ hour weeks.

Mandatory overtime should be illegal

it is in the UK >.>

The US, depending on state, has fuck all for workers rights.

I have a friend that used to work 7 days a week in a factory, with one day off every 21 days.

ah america. literally worse than north korea.
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Workers usually want to leave on time so they don't get written up for getting overtime (it DOES happen).

So sorry if you come by at a time when our fryers are turned off and you want something fresh. We're just doing our job. Blame the managers for wanting us to stop cooking at 6 if we close at 8.
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Prestoff posted...

politely if they can still be served, which we would reply no because the kitchen is going to close soon and they would leave with saying "thanks anyways". However, when it came to older people, they would on average complain and make a big fuss if you didn't let them in. Often they would also try to compromise like say "hey man, we're only going to order appetizers" or "Come on, just make an exception with us. We're giving you guys business!" With that said, it's all purely anecdotal because I worked there for only 6 months, but that was what I experienced.

Not surprising. Baby boomers love to project their flaws onto younger people.
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Why is it so hard to just be nice to restaurant workers?
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Yeah thats fucked. I would never do this and I would expect your food to be spit on if you ever did.
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MutantJohn posted...

Why is it so hard to just be nice to restaurant workers?

Why is it so hard for restaurant workers to follow their hours of operation?
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voldothegr8 posted...

MutantJohn posted...

Why is it so hard to just be nice to restaurant workers?

Why is it so hard for restaurant workers to follow their hours of operation?

They see me trollin', they hatin'...
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Why advertise a restraunt as being open until x, when you dont want customers walking in before x?
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If they want to close shut the door

I screamed at someone once demanding they serve me. And they did. Food was too amazing to pass up.
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Rika_Furude posted...

Why advertise a restraunt as being open until x, when you dont want customers walking in before x?

Because most people have some sense of social cues and grace. But others, clearly, need to be taught.
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