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paladin_man
03/25/18 12:31:38 AM
#1:


Same with all the other elemental move equivalents.

90 base power or 120 base power moves?

Which side did you pick?
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Coffeebeanz
03/25/18 12:32:43 AM
#2:


Ice Beam obviously

The only time Blizzard is better is with Snow Warning teams like Alolan Ninetales
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Irony
03/25/18 12:33:29 AM
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Ice beam is more reliable
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Eevee-Trainer
03/25/18 12:33:40 AM
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Ice Beam for accuracy. Only really picked Blizzard if I could assure it'd hit
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Solar_Crimson
03/25/18 12:34:21 AM
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Ice Beam. Reliability > Power

Same with Thunderbolt vs Thunder.
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jpenny2
03/25/18 12:34:37 AM
#6:


Ice Beam. Blizzard is gonna miss constantly, so it's really only useful in Hail or playing Doubles.
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Tmaster148
03/25/18 12:36:25 AM
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Outside of Gen 1 where Blizzard had 90% acc. Ice Beam is always better for reliability. Plus there's ton of things 4x weak to ice as it is so the extra power will often be overkill anyways.
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Coffeebeanz
03/25/18 12:37:20 AM
#8:


Tmaster148 posted...
Outside of Gen 1 where Blizzard had 90% acc. Ice Beam is always better for reliability. Plus there's ton of things 4x weak to ice as it is so the extra power will often be overkill anyways.


Gen 1's evasion abuse is so bad though
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Frostshock
03/25/18 12:38:15 AM
#9:


Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.
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gunplagirl
03/25/18 12:41:50 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Outside of Gen 1 where Blizzard had 90% acc. Ice Beam is always better for reliability. Plus there's ton of things 4x weak to ice as it is so the extra power will often be overkill anyways.

Generally this though in gen 4's stall meta, blizzard was necessary to decide certain fights before they could get started. Then scald became a thing in gen 5 and the things you had to blizzard for the 2hk suddenly aren't a threat if you burn them. (I'm talking specifically about skarmory, one of the top 10 Pokemon for gen 4)
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gunplagirl
03/25/18 12:43:29 AM
#12:


Frostshock posted...
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.

You forgot focus blast

Or should I say

Fuck it missed

I've never had it hit more than 3 times in a row over the span of about 1300 battles and that was just in gen 5.
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LinksLiege
03/25/18 12:43:30 AM
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I definitely thought Blizzard/Thunder/Fire Blast/etc. were better as a wee lad.

Then I learned how probability works and Ice Beam, etc. became the preferred choice.
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Calwings
03/25/18 12:43:35 AM
#14:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Ice Beam. Reliability > Power

Same with Thunderbolt vs Thunder.

This. I would never trust a 70% accuracy move. Even Fire Blast's more generous 85% is really pushing it IMO.
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Frostshock
03/25/18 12:44:34 AM
#15:


gunplagirl posted...
Frostshock posted...
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.

You forgot focus blast

Or should I say

Fuck it missed

I've never had it hit more than 3 times in a row over the span of about 1300 battles and that was just in gen 5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuWCVJ6poqU" data-time="

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Tmaster148
03/25/18 12:46:26 AM
#16:


gunplagirl posted...
Frostshock posted...
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.

You forgot focus blast

Or should I say

Fuck it missed

I've never had it hit more than 3 times in a row over the span of about 1300 battles and that was just in gen 5.


Well Focus Blast is only used because the selection of pokemon that learn aura sphere and want a special fighting move are very small and Focus Blast is simply better than HP Fighting.

LinksLiege posted...
I definitely thought Blizzard/Thunder/Fire Blast/etc. were better as a wee lad.

Then I learned how probability works and Ice Beam, etc. became the preferred choice.


Fire Blast is the only one that's really used since 85% acc isn't bad and isn't realiant on weather since weather is a lot harder to use now due to limited duration.
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gunplagirl
03/25/18 12:46:51 AM
#17:


Frostshock posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Frostshock posted...
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.

You forgot focus blast

Or should I say

Fuck it missed

I've never had it hit more than 3 times in a row over the span of about 1300 battles and that was just in gen 5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuWCVJ6poqU" data-time="


I can only think of one of those tournaments from the unova series that wasn't total bs or jobberific

And it was the one with ash's oshawott vs a dewott
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gunplagirl
03/25/18 12:50:15 AM
#18:


Tmaster148 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Frostshock posted...
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

70% accuracy can fuck right off.

You forgot focus blast

Or should I say

Fuck it missed

I've never had it hit more than 3 times in a row over the span of about 1300 battles and that was just in gen 5.


Well Focus Blast is only used because the selection of pokemon that learn aura sphere and want a special fighting move are very small and Focus Blast is simply better than HP Fighting.

LinksLiege posted...
I definitely thought Blizzard/Thunder/Fire Blast/etc. were better as a wee lad.

Then I learned how probability works and Ice Beam, etc. became the preferred choice.


Fire Blast is the only one that's really used since 85% acc isn't bad and isn't realiant on weather since weather is a lot harder to use now due to limited duration.


Plenty of psychic and ghost types used it to break steel and rock types before they could stealth rock or whatever. But these days, that's hardly an issue, so many new moves that have secondary effects which actually make stopping a lot of them easier if you can't outright 1-2hk. Like nuzzle on a bulky electric squirrel. >.>
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WilliamPorygon
03/25/18 1:02:10 AM
#19:


Ice beam, in general I prefer medium power/100% accuracy over high power/less accuracy moves
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Kajagogo
03/25/18 1:10:40 AM
#20:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Reliability > Power


I agree...and so do 40 Helens.
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ManBeast462
03/25/18 1:11:22 AM
#21:


Ice Beam!

More PP and better accuracy
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