Poll of the Day > Anime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic LXXXII

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One under-the-radar anime that I almost overlooked: The next season of Wixoss is happening, too. (This one is called Lostorage Conflated Wixoss.) If you have watched all of the previous iterations, then there is good cause to look forward to this one, since Ruko and Tama are back, along with others from the original show. It is technically a direct sequel to Lostorage Incited (i.e. the Suzuko-Chinatsu season), but it ties everything together.
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Just finished S2 of March comes in like a lion, it was pretty great overall, the whole Hina plot line was handled well and did a good job of showing that there is no easy solution to deal with bullying and the effects that it has on other people.

Rei's character growth was also good though I would've liked to see more of Kyouko since I find her interesting, the only question now is will it get a S3? I hope so because I could easily watch more of it.

Oh and I'm now totally shipping Rei with Hina because they make such a cute pairing and with how Rei thinks of Hina it sounds like the beginnings of love but he's unaware of it
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I also am entranced by the kyouko/Rei relationship. I'm gonna read the source if no season 3 soon
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Through 9 eps of Citrus. This anime could've been so much darker so easily.
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@YoukaiSlayer

What do you think about the very last moments of the last episode?
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Finished Citrus. It was ok, but also disappointing. Could've at least given me some heavy petting. :(
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You guys know of any isekai on the way?
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It really annoys me that there is no officially printed version of the Violet Evergarden LN in English.
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So I watched the first episode of Caligula and Hinamatsuri.

Caligula was very weird but kept me interested. The designs are kind of edgy but that's okay. I'll be following this as well.

Hinamatsuri was actually pretty funny. A little psychokinetic girl shows up in this younger Yakuza guys apartment and he starts caring for her.

I didn't know what to expect from either and was pleasantly surprised. I'm gonna have a alot of weekly shows this season.
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FellWolf posted...

Hinamatsuri was actually pretty funny. A little psychokinetic girl shows up in this younger Yakuza guys apartment and he starts caring for her.

radar blip detected, too bad it's just barely airing
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anime sucks dude
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FellWolf posted...

What do you think about the very last moments of the last episode?

Kind of annoyed me. I hate when they pointlessly throw ambiguity into an otherwise neat and tidy ending. Kinda reminded me of the code geass cart scene in its last episode.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

FellWolf posted...

What do you think about the very last moments of the last episode?

Kind of annoyed me. I hate when they pointlessly throw ambiguity into an otherwise neat and tidy ending. Kinda reminded me of the code geass cart scene in its last episode.

If you have no interest in reading the LN I'd still take a look at it because there are some changes made in the adaptation. Changes that I don't understand. If you want LN spoilers click away

Gilbert is indeed alive. I don't know exactly what happens but they were supposed to have a reunion somewhere near the end on the train (I think) but in the anime they had his brother replace him for those scenes. It also doesn't make sense in the anime because his family all are acting like he is dead. Apparently he faked his death and told Hodgins or something. Again, the LN probably handles this better than how I'm telling you right now.

Also what is important is they originally planned for post "death" Gilbert. In the first 2 pv's there is a shot with Gilbert with a missing eye (with scars).

So I don't know what made them change it

. Also they are working on another Violet Evergarden related work, probably an OVA.
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After reading that spoilers part I honestly think the way the anime did it was better. In fact the story is better if Gilbert is dead. It's about moving on from loss and rediscovering yourself so if they just say "lol jk, she lost nothing" it seems pretty pointless. If I were her I would be so goddamn pissed at hodgins and gilbert after learning he is alive like wtf. She tried to kill herself largely over her feelings of loss and guilt and I'm imagining if she succeeded in going through with it they'd be feeling pretty shitty about the whole thing. Huge betrayal as far as I'm concerned. If gilbert is alive IMO it HAS to be the old amnesia and being taken care of somewhere else thing which would potentially fit with the ending of the anime.
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So I do agree that the story being about moving on from a heart wrenching loss is great. A yeah, if she had committed suicide that would suck. But this is a love story so that wouldn't happen.

I don't think it would be pointless if she didn't lose him though, as she definitely grew as a person. No longer needing orders and all that, and understanding love a little more.

Anyway, I'm gonna read the light novel... online... *spits* since there are no printed English versions. I'll let you know if I like the story more.
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I think a while back I heard the story was originally a short that ended I'm assuming where episode 9 did. I'll see if I can find that info again. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. This would be before any of that spoiler stuff. I know I read something complaining about something like that.

The love story is pretty weak. Kinda hoping Gilbert's feelings towards violet were more like fatherly love and regret. I mean, she is 14 during all that with him being a grown ass man. I think losing a surrogate father is a lot more impactful and it's not like Gilbert did anything to really imply he felt anything romantic (then again look at that fuckin that character design quality, who couldn't fall in love with that?).

I thought that was all kinda the point of episode 10. We watch violet deal with a child about to lose her parent and become alone in the world just like happened to her and its the first time we ever see her truly show emotion. The whole train arc seemed kinda dumb and like they just wanted to throw some more action into the story. The brother's desire to view violet as a tool was dumb and just makes him come across as an evil person. Hearing that it wasn't in the original story to such a degree makes a lot of sense.

I was pretty bummed to see the creation of another pacifist fighter as well. Like, I get you don't want to kill people but shit man, most people that are fighting a war don't want to, life isn't that convenient. It's incredibly irresponsible to not fight to your fullest when defending peoples lives even better illustrated by her losing the fight. If brother guy hadn't shown up super conveniently violet's pacifism would have gotten every person on the train killed and possibly ignited another war killing millions of people all because "I don't want to kill anymore". Oh well.
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Haha I also read or heard somewhere that the story had a very climactic ending for the first volume and could have ended there, and then the author wrote the second volume anyway and the ending wasn't as impactful.
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Yeah I know the age thing was accepted in their culture, it's just not in ours so I think basing your story around it hurts the story. I mean think of the story to the kids.

"So, how'd you meet mommy?"

"Well, when she was just a kid with no family my brother snatched her up to use as a human murder weapon, then he gave her, a human, to me as a present. I of course accepted and went ahead and used her as a weapon instead of, you know, not making her murder people. In fact I considered not doing it but my brother said arrangements had already been made and I didn't wanna rock the boat over something so minor.

Then, as her owner, I made sure I was the only positive seeming thing in her life so she would do anything for me. Then, after she lost both her arms saving my life I thought it would be a hilarious prank to tell her I loved her and then pretend I was dead. She was devastated from failing to protect the one thing she cared about and went through incredible emotional pain for MONTHS and tried to kill herself out of guilt at the things I made her do. Lol. Then I got horny so I sent for and got it on with her when she was still a child and thats how you were born."

"Dad, you sound like an awful person."

"Off to the army for you then."

"But I'm only twel- oh right."
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Well that's a pessimistic spin on it xD

According to the wiki: "Although Gilbert lied about his own death, it was only out of love for Violet, in hopes that she would find her own path in life rather than follow his orders forever." He wants her to understand what love is so she can accepts his.

Cringy, but not as pessimistic.

But when you put it like you did, it does seem quite like grooming lol

But yeah I get what you mean about the age thing.
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I know it's not quite as bad as I made it out but I really don't see how they could sell what really happened to me and not make him out to be a complete asshole. Like literally all of that could have happened without him faking his death and making the inciting incident for a story a lie is kinda bullshit just above the level of "it was all a dream". He didn't even try to live with her during peacetime and untrain her. Gave her actual PTSD for this shit. Head cannon, show ended on episode 9 with episode 10 being epilogue OVA, there was no source material, violet hurries and grows up cause she is too attractive, damn you kyoani puttin those eyes on her and doing that red nose area trick that I've never seen before that apparently works on me like a charm.
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Haha yeeesss
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Gonna assume all that censoring is for Violet Evergarden and not read it lol. Haven't gotten around to watching it yet.
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Yes it is violet evergarden spoilers so don't read it
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Golden Kamuy sadly, has some shitty CGI bears. Interviews with the director basically summarize that he was trying to give them a natural feeling and blend with the background, since animated things usually stick out from backgrounds. And there's the challenge that CGI sticks out regardless. Looks like his ambition/logic failed.
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Like, if you cropped the anime out of the image, the bear actually is pretty good for a CGI model bear. But this is anime, and it looks so fucking gross when contrasted with anime.

Houseki no kuni had a lot of CGI, but they did well to blend it with 2d animation, practically flawlessly.
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o lawd

dat bear lmao
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eating4fun posted...

Like, if you cropped the anime out of the image, the bear actually is pretty good for a CGI model bear. But this is anime, and it looks so fucking gross when contrasted with anime.

Houseki no kuni had a lot of CGI, but they did well to blend it with 2d animation, practically flawlessly.

Holy hell that looks bad, speaking of awkward CGI scenes (among other things) I wanted to share this vid with you guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHGAgE19NFE" data-time="

I watched it and agree with parts of it but I've already been thinking most of the things that are mentioned anyway. Anime really has been playing it too safe these past... many years but that is exactly why the more original shows stand out so I don't know how "good" or "bad" it all is.

I just want more complete anime's I think, I've been burnt too many times by incomplete adaptations :(
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I'm actually a huge digibro fanboy, but I don't agree with much that he said. The things you mentioned are kinda different from what he said. But anyways, it's a big case of rose tinted glasses, and that anime's always been like this; he just doesn't scrutinize for bullshit that old anime pulled.
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*skips all the Violent Evergarden spoilers*

If I get started talking about the Digibro video, I might be here for a long time, so ... all I am going to say is that I am starting to suspect that 'mediocrity' is code for 'moe anime' for people who are having those 'state of anime' discussions. *shrugs* I learned not to mind the moe (see: Gochiusa and New Game!, among other recent examples), since it has been a big thing in anime for a good fifteen years now, but there are still many who have not been converted.

Unrelated: Been revisiting Yuki Yuna Is A Hero. As it happens, Amazon Prime has Season 2, consisting of six prequel episodes, one recap episode, and six sequel episodes, so this is a new experience for me compared to my first viewing. Still a good and underrated show if one does not feel like going full Madoka. My only complaint is that Yuna herself receives zero character development compared to ... every other character (especially Togo, who might as well be the main). Bizarre if you consider that her name is on the show.
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Yeah sorry bout all the spoiler walls :P
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Watched the first episode of comic girls. Yuri? I'd say so. It was humorous

It even has a girl that drows shonen and is the "manly/passionate" one for the girl that's never been in love (and can't draw guys) to fall in love with.

the three pen style Zoro reference (I am assuming) was great
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I saw that digibro video a few days ago. I partially agree but not entirely. We are putting out more shit than ever right now, BUT we also put out a fair amount of good stuff too. A lot of those golden age nostalgia people often forget they are looking at an entire decade worth of anime and usually comparing it to 1-3 years of recent anime. Basically I feel like the good anime has stayed the same, the watchable mediocre anime has skyrocketed and the truly crap anime has stayed about the same. I don't really have a problem with this. I mean obviously I'd LIKE every anime to be a 10/10 masterpiece but thats not likely.

I do agree that the anime industry as a whole really fails to capitalize on a lot of obvious things. You get something great like cowboy bebop, have a great similar show with samurai champloo and then boom, never again. Why? It's not like that type is THAT hard to write and we only have examples of it being successful.

Code geass might even be a better example. That was essentially a super show with massive popularity and high ratings and they just never bothered to give us anything like that again. It was arguably similar to deathnote, another idea that was just dropped after success. The concept of guy gets supernatural power and takes on the world with strategy is immensely entertaining but they for some reason decided not to copy the shit out of that like they did to something like SAO with all the isekai. It's like they don't want money or something.

I've also expressed my dismay about anime being a secondary medium (almost entirely adaptation) that exists almost solely to promote source material. Anime has not found a successful way to sell itself to people. Idk why it doesn't do what steam does where instead of this stupid licensing bullshit you instead host your anime on a platform which takes a small cut (15-25%). You can then make the first 3 episodes of everything free, charge like 1 dollar to watch a show and maybe 3 bucks to own the show. Then they can have sales and bundles and shit like that as well and when you spend money you know where its going instead of vaguely to maybe a publisher through the crunchyroll that might maybe give a few dollars to the actual animation studio that you wanted to support.

Even if shit doesn't change with licensing and streaming services I think the streaming services should make the first 3 episodes of every show completely free even if you aren't a paying member. No ads, full speed high quality, no hassle. That'd draw people away from the pirate sites for at least those 3 episodes and make it more likely they just stick around for the convenience and quality of a legit site.

FellWolf posted...

Watched the first episode of comic girls. Yuri? I'd say so. It was humorous

That looks like my jams. I love anime about writers/artists and I love yuri. I hope it goes full yuri or at least has some heavy bait.
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digibro is a hack. ask me to elaborate. i won't.
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digibro didnt like rezero
thus I dont like him
jk

Lots of good replies here.. lets see

eating4fun posted...

I'm actually a huge digibro fanboy, but I don't agree with much that he said. The things you mentioned are kinda different from what he said. But anyways, it's a big case of rose tinted glasses, and that anime's always been like this; he just doesn't scrutinize for bullshit that old anime pulled.

Very true, older anime was variable in quality too and a fair share of it wasn't that good so acting like that wasn't the case is pretty silly at best

I_Abibde posted...

If I get started talking about the Digibro video, I might be here for a long time, so ... all I am going to say is that I am starting to suspect that 'mediocrity' is code for 'moe anime' for people who are having those 'state of anime' discussions. *shrugs* I learned not to mind the moe (see: Gochiusa and New Game!, among other recent examples), since it has been a big thing in anime for a good fifteen years now, but there are still many who have not been converted.

I don't watch moe so I won't hate on it, rather I think it's just another genre that isn't doing any harm so it's all good to me, more variety is always good

YoukaiSlayer posted...

I do agree that the anime industry as a whole really fails to capitalize on a lot of obvious things. You get something great like cowboy bebop, have a great similar show with samurai champloo and then boom, never again. Why? It's not like that type is THAT hard to write and we only have examples of it being successful.

Code geass might even be a better example. That was essentially a super show with massive popularity and high ratings and they just never bothered to give us anything like that again. It was arguably similar to deathnote, another idea that was just dropped after success. The concept of guy gets supernatural power and takes on the world with strategy is immensely entertaining but they for some reason decided not to copy the s*** out of that like they did to something like SAO with all the isekai. It's like they don't want money or something.

And I have to quote this because I agree 100% with it (plus Code geass is a fave of mine)
More stuff like that would be great
Also, I do like how some of the better shows i.e Made in Abyss, Hero academia, seven deadly sins and March comes in like a lion are getting proper extra seasons when I thought they'd be the usual "one and done" affair, I'm glad to see that isn't/won't be the case and I hope that continues with other shows as well.
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My suspicion is that the money these shows draws into various streaming platforms is making it in their (the streaming platforms) best interest to keep them going so they might be pressuring them to keep the show going. I have noticed we have been getting a ton of sequels for a little while now. This current season just now airing is sequels and remakes galore.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that streaming revenue has gone up enough to make it seem like a better proposition even if it doesn't really help the source material. That would be pretty fantastic if thats the case. Would also open the way for more anime originals.
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Got sucked into watching anime again. I feel like a dirty, filthy otaku now... At any rate, saw some clips from One Punch Man (loved the dub) then wound up watching the series on NFI (which only had the sub, boo!). And then, if that wasn't bad enough, I finally caved and watched The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (and now I'm tempted to track down the live-action movie)
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Zeus posted...

The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.

Thats cheesy but really addictive.

I like it.

Finished watching the sequel episodes for Yuki Yuna Is A Hero. Good conclusion to the series, though I now feel like the six prequel episodes took time that could have been used to make the sequel arc longer and more involved, though the prequel half of Season 2 certainly has its points (i.e. more Togo, more Sonoko, and the whole Gin arc).

Zeus posted...

Got sucked into watching anime again. I feel like a dirty, filthy otaku now.

There are worse things to be. Enjoy Saiki K., silly show that it is.
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Saiki K is pretty funny.
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Hard to disagree with that. Pure distilled jokes in that one.
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I've been praising that show for a long while, I'm glad people are getting around to it.
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eating4fun posted...

I've been praising that show for a long while, I'm glad people are getting around to it.

It's because Netflix added it :)
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FellWolf posted...

eating4fun posted...

I've been praising that show for a long while, I'm glad people are getting around to it.

It's because Netflix added it :)

nice that probably means people will start saying "netflix made it" just because they will slap NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES on any anime they license
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acesxhigh posted...

FellWolf posted...

eating4fun posted...

I've been praising that show for a long while, I'm glad people are getting around to it.

It's because Netflix added it :)

nice that probably means people will start saying "netflix made it" just because they will slap NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES on any anime they license

Lol yeah xD
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Eh, I probably should have been more clear about the fact that I already *finished* Saiki K. (Which had some problems, but was still pretty fun. I've never been as big into gag anime, though, (since it's a weirder format) with the exception of Lucky Star.)

FellWolf posted...

eating4fun posted...

I've been praising that show for a long while, I'm glad people are getting around to it.

It's because Netflix added it :)

Yeah, that's how I bumped into it. The only problem was that the localization had a lot of issues, including the fact that the anime is pretty big on using kanji in jokes but they never bothered translating them.
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Finished Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens, so I'm watching Konohana Kitan.
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dragon504 posted...

Konohana Kitan.

I loved that show. Didn't get the exposure it deserved IMO. Wish there was more yuri in it though.
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tbh, going to probably look for another comedy anime on NFI. Had been rewatching Ouran, which I didn't remember as much as I thought I did (although I guess it's been at least 5 years since I watched it?)
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anyone know where a guy can get 7DS in 1080p?