Poll of the Day > You can decide which type of charity $100,000 goes to.

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DarkKirby2500
04/09/18 3:53:22 PM
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You can decide which type of charity $100,000 goes to. Poor people in Africa or No Kill Animal Shelters. - Results (5 votes)
Give $100,000 to charities that help poor people in Africa.
20% (1 votes)
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Give $100,000 to charities that fund and/or create No Kill Animal Shelters.
80% (4 votes)
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ReggieTheReckless
04/09/18 3:59:03 PM
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always animals
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Kyuubi4269
04/09/18 4:03:41 PM
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So save animals or fund tyrants?
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Smarkil
04/09/18 4:08:55 PM
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If I was sure the money would actually help the Africans, sure. Otherwise I'm going with the animals.

Humans have more value than animals, but there's a lot of data to suggest dumping money into countries like that doesn't help.
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Funkdamental
04/09/18 4:25:24 PM
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Some people seem to be confused between charity and overseas development aid.
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TheCyborgNinja
04/09/18 6:03:40 PM
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Animals.

I hate "people" in a general sense, and any culture that has been worth anything succeeded via trial by fire.

In poorer areas, they need to learn how to grow on their own. I'm fine with businesses investing, etc., but nothing else. This has been proven more beneficial for them as well. I saw something about bike factories in this one African nation dramatically improving things.

In rich countries, poor life choices are just that. It's our only real form of natural selection anymore. Have some social services, by all means, but certain people can't be helped and should be allowed to fall behind and disappear.
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Troll_Police_
04/09/18 6:05:47 PM
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we made domesticated animals, and as a result most of them are completely incapable of taking care of themselves without us. we have an obligation to them

people are supposed to know better.

glad to see that most of you are not as braindead as jen though
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Funkdamental
04/10/18 2:16:38 PM
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$100,000 to charities that help poor people in Africa.
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gguirao
04/10/18 2:40:34 PM
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Poor people in Africa.
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Baardmeester
04/10/18 2:46:28 PM
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I would help the animals here.
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argonautweakend
04/10/18 2:56:18 PM
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i would choose africa. i like animals but human lives matter more, IMO.

There is a chance the money sent to africa wouldnt make it, but if we could gaurantee it would thats definitely my choice.
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VeeVees
04/10/18 3:09:54 PM
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Animals
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wolfy42
04/10/18 3:13:37 PM
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C: All of it goes to the Make Williams happy, giving free stuff to people named William all across the world (But specifically, andmostly wherever I am currently living).
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Funkdamental
04/10/18 3:43:43 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
In poorer areas, they need to learn how to grow on their own.


Mouthing meaningless platitudes about how people in poorer areas should "learn to grow on their own" isn't some miracle formula that cures poverty, though -- it's just an excuse for turning your back on it.

What the Democratic Republic of Congo needs to help lift its rural population out of poverty needs isn't a finger-wagging lecture about the need for poor people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but massive investment in (among other things) transport infrastructure.

For example, the most widely eaten staple in DRC is cassava, but the big obstacle that farmers face to getting more money for their crop is that delivering it to urban markets is a race against time, because cassava starts to rot as soon as it's harvested -- which means a decent transportation system is essential to developing the rural economy. (The recently completed road between Kisangani and Bunia is eastern Congo shows that highway rehabilitation can pay big dividends, because cassava leaves harvested in the morning in Bandundu can now be sold and feed Kinshasa families that same evening.) Roads offer a better chance than finger-wagging.

I'd point out that local communities aren't hopeless, bottomless sinkholes for charity and aid. Again in the DRC, it was Nande traders in Butembo who combined their efforts to build and maintain the city's airport. But fuck knows how genuinely poor people are supposed to "grow on their own" and fund massive infrastructure projects when they lack access to credit to invest in seeds, pesticides or fertilisers, and they're deprived of secure title to land. It's not poor people who usually need lecturing -- it's the rich governing elites.
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Funkdamental
04/10/18 4:01:13 PM
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I'll say this much, though: simply throwing money at a problem won't solve it. It's too easy to imagine that quoting a card number or signing a cheque means the job's done. I've never advocated charity or aid as a magic solution; it's a single piece of the jigsaw puzzle. But without money -- just as anywhere else in the world -- you can achieve fuck-all of nothing.
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myghostisdead
04/10/18 4:08:48 PM
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People over animals.
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Dikitain
04/10/18 4:14:05 PM
#17:


All those "help poor people in Africa" charities are scams. With the no kill animal shelters you at least get to see that your money is doing something.
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InfestedAdam
04/10/18 4:29:24 PM
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I chose giving the money to those in Africa as I feel it is more possible to reduce the number of stray pets than fixing the issues in Africa. Giving money to both are just bandage treatments and bigger reform must be done for long term affects.

I did a quick check on Google and seems most of the blame for stray pets is on the owners for any number of reasons. Lost the pets, pets weren't neutered, owners losing interest, etc.

Perhaps people need to be more realistic about the responsibility of owning a pet and not purchase a puppy or kitten on a whim just because their children want one. Speaking of which, could reducing the number of licensed breeder help in anyway along with incentives to adopt pets instead of buying from a breeder?

I know some folks sees pets as just commodity and not family but this is a life that you are bringing into your home and one that will depend on you. Abandoning said pet just because you've grown bored is simply wrong.
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TheWorstPoster
04/10/18 4:30:30 PM
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I have a better solution for the money.

Give it to me so I can blow it on entire gaming libraries.
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Lokarin
04/10/18 4:33:04 PM
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A lot of innovations are coming out of Africa just trying to keep them alive, such as the $1 microscope
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PKMNsony
04/10/18 5:19:22 PM
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Can't decide, both are lost causes.
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BlackScythe0
04/10/18 6:37:29 PM
#22:


I am VERY skeptical about foreign aid donations. After what Red Cross did in Haiti and the African warlords who are known for seizing food shipments.

I'd stick with the relatively safe animal welfare groups like ASPCA or something. At least I haven't heard bad things from them.
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aHappySacka
04/10/18 6:44:02 PM
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If it goes abroad then it's just going to get stolen and used to buy weapons like any other charity.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
04/10/18 8:29:42 PM
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I'm going to assume the Animal Shelter is at least in my own country.
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Krazy_Kirby
04/10/18 9:50:10 PM
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myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


people are animals too
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shadowsword87
04/10/18 10:35:27 PM
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EFF.
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Syntheticon
04/10/18 11:26:36 PM
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Of course the animals are winning, because who needs to care about something they can't post cute facebook posts about, amirite?
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Meushell
04/11/18 10:17:59 AM
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Smarkil posted...
If I was sure the money would actually help the Africans, sure. Otherwise I'm going with the animals.

Humans have more value than animals, but there's a lot of data to suggest dumping money into countries like that doesn't help.

This. Im assuming the poll means it would actually help people. Reality is another issue, of course.
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bulbinking
04/11/18 11:11:15 AM
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It would be better if we stopped sending them so much food as it creates a dependant population that cant no linger compete with local crop yeilds.

its called jevons paradox
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darkknight109
04/11/18 11:55:34 AM
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myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.

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bulbinking
04/11/18 11:57:56 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


Tell that to PETA
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Dikitain
04/11/18 12:28:03 PM
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bulbinking posted...
darkknight109 posted...
myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


Tell that to PETA

PETA shelters kill more animals then pretty much any other shelter. If anything, they get off on killing animals.
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BlackScythe0
04/11/18 5:44:42 PM
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Dikitain posted...
bulbinking posted...
darkknight109 posted...
myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


Tell that to PETA

PETA shelters kill more animals then pretty much any other shelter. If anything, they get off on killing animals.


To quote peta "Animals are better dead than living as slaves".
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bulbinking
04/11/18 6:03:45 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Dikitain posted...
bulbinking posted...
darkknight109 posted...
myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


Tell that to PETA

PETA shelters kill more animals then pretty much any other shelter. If anything, they get off on killing animals.


To quote peta "Animals are better dead than living as slaves".


Does PETA support firearm rights?
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InfestedAdam
04/11/18 6:54:29 PM
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I'm not surprise more folks care for animals than humans and/or some folks don't trust charity groups. I know we have a massive problem with homelessness among both people and pets in the States. Realistically can we even resolve the homelessness of pets? The blame for homelessness of people can be any number of reasons and people involved. The homelessness of pets more often than not is because of the owner I'd imagine and maybe non-licensed breeders?. Can anything be done to stem this?
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shadowsword87
04/11/18 7:02:14 PM
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bulbinking posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Dikitain posted...
bulbinking posted...
darkknight109 posted...
myghostisdead posted...
People over animals.


Tell that to PETA

PETA shelters kill more animals then pretty much any other shelter. If anything, they get off on killing animals.


To quote peta "Animals are better dead than living as slaves".


Does PETA support firearm rights?


Direct quote: "The only position PETA has on guns is that they should not be used to hunt animals. "
https://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/what-is-petas-stance-on-gun-control/
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Grindcorp9000
04/11/18 8:29:49 PM
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Animals over people.

Or I just split it 50/50.
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Cacciato
04/11/18 8:41:08 PM
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Smarkil posted...
If I was sure the money would actually help the Africans, sure.

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Cacciato
04/11/18 8:41:49 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
After what Red Cross did in Haiti

It was just a little cholera.
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Blightzkrieg
04/11/18 8:43:36 PM
#40:


Charity of getting puss for my phat dick
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Revelation34
04/11/18 11:01:27 PM
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No kill shelters simply because 100k is absolutely nothing and wouldn't help at all in Africa.
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wwinterj25
04/11/18 11:08:25 PM
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Animal shelters duh.
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