Poll of the Day > PSA: This is the last day to get Factorio for $20

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Tomorrow, they'll be increasing the price to $30, which they're planning to be the final retail price once they come out of Early Access. Where they have a strict policy of never doing sales, that means this is the cheapest it'll probably ever be, so if you're at all on the fence, now's the time.

Related PSA: Factorio is awesome and everyone should play it.
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Please explain the game to me.
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ah the usual early access scam. where they increase the price on some random update after being there for 2 or 3 years and never do any sales.
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LinkPizza posted...

Please explain the game to me.

You're stranded on an alien planet, and you have build a factory to produce the components needed to conduct research, build a rocket to escape the planet, and defend yourself from the aliens that try to kill you. All kinds of fun logistical, engineering, and optimization challenges involved in doing that. The trailers on Steam provide a decent showcase of that (though not necessarily good factory design), plus there's a demo to at least get a feel for the basics.

sonic_c_tail posted...

ah the usual early access scam. where they increase the price on some random update after being there for 2 or 3 years and never do any sales.

Nah, this is a very good example of Early Access done right. There's been a steady stream of content updates, backed up by a weekly development blog that gives a delightful level of transparency and community engagement to the whole thing. They're increasing the price because they've hit a point where they aren't likely to be adding much more content before they decide that it's release-ready. The next major version update is primarily going to be GUI updates, some optimizations, and tutorials, and the only reason they aren't expecting to call that one 1.0 is that all of the back-end rewriting they're planning is likely to necessitate some unforeseen changes. The patch after that is expected to be just polishing those changes, and once it's stable, they'll be calling that the official release.

As for not doing sales, that's not just an Early Access thing. They've stated on a few occasions that they want people to buy the game because it's a good game, not because they're manipulated into it by pricing tricks. As such, no sales, and they've priced it at $20 instead of $19.99. Ordinarily, I wait for sales before buying games, especially on Steam, but that philosophy was one I really respected, and I haven't been remotely disappointed by my purchase.
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Bump.
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roflmao. steam enhanced shows it used to be 19.99 at one time. Not only that but you never addressed the point that they use early access as a scapegoat to keep their game "in the new wrap" which prevents it from going on sale. However it seems the sales are steady so they decided to increase the price and meme about never being on sale. Expect it to be shoved in humble monthly or some indie bundle.
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adjl posted...

Related PSA: Factorio is awesome and everyone should play it.

this is true, though it might also not be for everyone

LinkPizza posted...

Please explain the game to me.

it's a game about automation. it's the same joy you get from computer programming, but done with RTS-like buildings. it's like RTS minecraft with tons more tedium, except that everything can be automated, so the tedium can always be automated away. everytime you start to think "I hate doing this", build some infrastructure to automate it and sit back as it happens automatically, and at many times the rate of doing it manually.

but just like with programming, things are relatively easy at a small scale, but quickly get out of hand at larger scales unless you planned accordingly or are willing to refactor what you've built.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

roflmao. steam enhanced shows it used to be 19.99 at one time. Not only that but you never addressed the point that they use early access as a scapegoat to keep their game "in the new wrap" which prevents it from going on sale. However it seems the sales are steady so they decided to increase the price and meme about never being on sale. Expect it to be shoved in humble monthly or some indie bundle.

I mean, Rimworld has never been on sale or ever will be, and it sold over 1 million copies.
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Lol it will go on sale. Every game always does.

sonic_c_tail posted...

roflmao. steam enhanced shows it used to be 19.99 at one time.

It's been an even $25 (cdn) for as long as I've been paying attention to it, and that's been since a few months after it was first added to Steam in 2016. Not sure what point you're talking about, especially where SteamDB has a lowest recorded price of $20.

sonic_c_tail posted...

Not only that but you never addressed the point that they use early access as a scapegoat to keep their game "in the new wrap" which prevents it from going on sale

I never addressed that point because it's completely baseless and ridiculous. Plenty of Early Access games go on sale on a regular basis, and the developer's reasoning for not doing sales has nothing to do with Early Access. This is not, as you suggested, increasing the price on some random update. It's increasing the price on what they expect to be the final major content update before launching the game, because it makes sense to charge full price for a feature-complete game.

Lil69Leo posted...

Lol it will go on sale. Every game always does.

Maybe some day, but I wouldn't expect it any time soon.

Game is trash, they've started dumbing everything down.

It's going to wind up like Supreme Commander.
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Sahuagin posted...

adjl posted...

Related PSA: Factorio is awesome and everyone should play it.

this is true, though it might also not be for everyone

Aye. I feel even among those who enjoy building bases and whatnot, this is kinda a niche thing.

Herpes posted...

Game is trash, they've started dumbing everything down.

It's going to wind up like Supreme Commander.

Oh? How so? I was playing again recently and noticed a few extra stuff to build. Beyond that I haven't noticed much from when I last played a year ago.
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_AdjI_ posted...

It's been an even $25 (cdn) for as long as I've been paying attention to it, and that's been since a few months after it was first added to Steam in 2016. Not sure what point you're talking about, especially where SteamDB has a lowest recorded price of $20.

No need to play dumb. If you want a pic to rekt you just say it.

_AdjI_ posted...

I never addressed that point because it's completely baseless and ridiculous. Plenty of Early Access games go on sale on a regular basis, and the developer's reasoning for not doing sales has nothing to do with Early Access. This is not, as you suggested, increasing the price on some random update. It's increasing the price on what they expect to be the final major content update before launching the game, because it makes sense to charge full price for a feature-complete game.

Lol accusing of "baseless and ridiculous" is the new excuse people got for when they don't have anything to say. Lots of games have given free updates without increasing the price of the base game but now corporate greed figured people would buy into the "feature- complete" argument. This is a $5 dollar game at most.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

This is a $5 dollar game at most.

are you serious? I have 425 hours and counting in it. worth way more than $5.
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did you forget to turn off the emulator while farming cards?
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sonic_c_tail posted...

did you forget to turn off the emulator while farming cards?

huh?
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you know the emulator that says you are playing the game so you can get the steam cards.
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A few friends play this game and love it. I'm still not sold, but only because I like playing shorter games.

This game would seem like a time sink, although a very fun one.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

_AdjI_ posted...

It's been an even $25 (cdn) for as long as I've been paying attention to it, and that's been since a few months after it was first added to Steam in 2016. Not sure what point you're talking about, especially where SteamDB has a lowest recorded price of $20.

No need to play dumb. If you want a pic to rekt you just say it.

And how long did that price last? February 25th was the day it was added to Steam, and I believe to Humble as well. Me, I'd attribute that to a pricing error on day 1 (presumably because it defaulted to $X.99 instead of $(X+1).00), and not call that anything against the claim that they're going with $20/30 even.

sonic_c_tail posted...

Lots of games have given free updates without increasing the price of the base game but now corporate greed figured people would buy into the "feature- complete" argument.

Would you rather they charged full retail price for half a game when they started the Early Access process? Because me, I think the model of charging a lesser price for a lesser game makes a whole lot of sense, and then bumping it up to the full retail price when they feel they've got a retail-worthy game.

sonic_c_tail posted...

This is a $5 dollar game at most.

I'd love to hear how you figure that. I'm not even going to challenge the claim; I just want to issue an open-ended invitation for you to explain why you think this game is worth no more than $5.

Herpes posted...

Game is trash, they've started dumbing everything down.

How so? The update to splitters in 0.16 is pretty handy, reducing the need for circuitry to help balance lanes, but there's a considerable amount of middle ground between "you have to program everything with comparators" and "dumbed down."

elg3cko posted...

This game would seem like a time sink, although a very one.

It very much is. It's even worse than Civilization for the whole "one more (figurative) turn" thing. If you prefer shorter games, then yeah, it's probably not the best choice for you.

sonic_c_tail posted...

you know the emulator that says you are playing the game so you can get the steam cards.

I don't pay much attention to steam cards but I don't think this game has them yet
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Looks fun but im not sure if I would be able to get into it, anyhow I have a massive backlog:https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198069815235/games/?tab=all

So I can wait til I get it in a humble monthly

_AdjI_ posted...

And how long did that price last? February 25th was the day it was added to Steam, and I believe to Humble as well. Me, I'd attribute that to a pricing error on day 1 (presumably because it defaulted to $X.99 instead of $(X+1).00), and not call that anything against the claim that they're going with $20/30 even.

The point was to disprove it's never changed price. I succeeded the rest is irrelevant.

_AdjI_ posted...

Would you rather they charged full retail price for half a game when they started the Early Access process? Because me, I think the model of charging a lesser price for a lesser game makes a whole lot of sense, and then bumping it up to the full retail price when they feel they've got a retail-worthy game.

At least full release games that are incomplete still get updates without holding a price hostage then daring to bump it up. Makes no sense to pay more for an old game that been in the market for a year+. That's about the time it should be going on sale but with the early access scam they bump their price up and claim it's "new" and thus does not need to go on sale. This is a 85% off game or bundle tbh fam.
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20 bucks is still a lot though, not sure if I'm prepared to spend so much when I have too many other games to play.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

At least full release games that are incomplete still get updates without holding a price hostage then daring to bump it up. Makes no sense to pay more for an old game that been in the market for a year+. That's about the time it should be going on sale but with the early access scam they bump their price up and claim it's "new" and thus does not need to go on sale. This is a 85% off game or bundle tbh fam.

price butthurt is one of the most hilarious things ever
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ah I guess you just read up on the emulator and are salty that I called you out on it so you had to pull out the straws?
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sonic_c_tail posted...

ah I guess you just read up on the emulator and are salty that I called you out on it so you had to pull out the straws?

no, I still have no idea what you're talking about
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Sahuagin posted...

sonic_c_tail posted...

ah I guess you just read up on the emulator and are salty that I called you out on it so you had to pull out the straws?

no, I still have no idea what you're talking about. you're obviously trolling pretty hard. why don't you complain about how cheap you are some more?

Same good ol' excuse of " If you disagree with me you are a troll".

With that complacent attitude you will find yourself with 10 inches deep and you won't know about it until it is too late. Then you'll see who is truly butthurt.
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wow, rape threats even, lol
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Didn't know you had a knack for s&m.

Have fun with your inches beta boi.
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The fuck?
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lol whut at both posters, I think they want to fuck.

but yeah you cry about price change as if its a big deal.
Who cares?

sonic_c_tail posted...

This is a 85% off game or bundle tbh fam.

_AdjI_ posted...

I'd love to hear how you figure that. I'm not even going to challenge the claim; I just want to issue an open-ended invitation for you to explain why you think this game is worth no more than $5.

dioxxys posted...

lol whut at both posters, I think they want to fuck.

but yeah you cry about price change as if its a big deal.
Who cares?

you cared enough to post. top kek
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_AdjI_ posted...

sonic_c_tail posted...

This is a 85% off game or bundle tbh fam.

_AdjI_ posted...

I'd love to hear how you figure that. I'm not even going to challenge the claim; I just want to issue an open-ended invitation for you to explain why you think this game is worth no more than $5.

Because it's on Steam, obviously.

If it's on Steam, wait for it to get sales then buy a key from a cheaper country on sale then cringe when you think about when you used to pay RRP.
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_AdjI_ posted...

Would you rather they charged full retail price for half a game when they started the Early Access process?

The price of something is what someone else is willing to pay for it. I am sure if they priced their stupid game at $60 it wouldn't sell.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Because it's on Steam, obviously.

Plenty of stuff on Steam is worth more than $5. That doesn't mean much.

Viking_Mudcrap posted...

The price of something is what someone else is willing to pay for it. I am sure if they priced their stupid game at $60 it wouldn't sell.

I meant its full retail price, so $30 in this case. $60 for an indie game would indeed be a hard sell.
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dioxxys posted...

lol whut at both posters, I think they want to fuck.

but yeah you cry about price change as if its a big deal.
Who cares?

It is a big deal. There's no reason to raise the price just because a game is out of early access.
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Revelation34 posted...

dioxxys posted...

lol whut at both posters, I think they want to fuck.

but yeah you cry about price change as if its a big deal.
Who cares?

It is a big deal. There's no reason to raise the price just because a game is out of early access.

Except that it was sold at a lower price in the first place on purpose BECAUSE it was early access, you know....because its not a complete game yet?

dioxxys posted...

Except that it was sold at a lower price in the first place on purpose BECAUSE it was early access, you know....because its not a complete game yet?

It's only because they want to do it like that.
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Revelation34 posted...

dioxxys posted...

lol whut at both posters, I think they want to fuck.

but yeah you cry about price change as if its a big deal.
Who cares?

It is a big deal. There's no reason to raise the price just because a game is out of early access.

I think of it less as raising the price because it's out of early access, and more as lowering the price because it was in Early Access. That's purely a semantic difference, obviously, but conceptually I feel like getting a discount on an incomplete game makes more sense than paying extra for a more complete game (that's literally what DLC is, but DLC's optional). Given how much of a gamble Early Access games can be (there's no shortage of stories of developers never finishing their EA games), discounting them as thanks for having faith in the developers is pretty reasonable.

Also, I quite disagree that there's no reason to raise the price. Coming out of Early Access is often a very arbitrary line, but it's still pretty reasonable to charge more money for more game. If you compare Minecraft Alpha to Minecraft 1.0 (which did Early Access before it was cool), the latter's clearly worth more.

Revelation34 posted...

It's only because they want to do it like that.

Well, yeah. Literally any pricing or business decision is "because they want to do it like that." That statement is a little on the semantically null side.
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I just don't get why people get so bitter over the price of a couple hamburgers. I seen a lot of it on the steam forums, too (for other games). Don't you have jobs? Even if you're relatively poor, $10 shouldn't make much of a difference.

It feels like, rather than actually being super poor and in some kind of sympathetic situation, these kinds of gamers are just unbelievably cheap and think they deserve everything for free. If it is the later case (which I'm not necessarily saying it is, I dunno what it is), then that's what I find hilarious, and I only wish they'd raise the price even higher (on any game) just to spite that kind of lousy attitude.
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Sahuagin posted...

I just don't get why people get so bitter over the price of a couple hamburgers. I seen a lot of it on the steam forums, too (for other games). Don't you have jobs? Even if you're relatively poor, $10 shouldn't make much of a difference.

It feels like, rather than actually being super poor and in some kind of sympathetic situation, these kinds of gamers are just unbelievably cheap and think they deserve everything for free. If it is the later case (which I'm not necessarily saying it is, I dunno what it is), then that's what I find hilarious, and I only wish they'd raise the price even higher (on any game) just to spite that kind of lousy attitude.

Where the fuck do you buy $15 burgers from?
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Revelation34 posted...

Where the fuck do you buy $15 burgers from?

I was referring to the difference by which the price was raised: $10. The complaint is about the price being raised, isn't it? not about the price being what it is.
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not even burger king sells $5 dollar burgers. I can mount a hamburger festival with $10. People that support garbage practices are the reason gaming scene is so bad right now and has bad reputation.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

not even burger king sells $5 dollar burgers. I can mount a hamburger festival with $10. People that support garbage practices are the reason gaming scene is so bad right now and has bad reputation.

They sell them for cheaper. But if you're paying $5 for a burger you're doing it wrong anyway. Even In-N-Out is cheaper than that.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

not even burger king sells $5 dollar burgers.

Are you really using Burger King as the pinnacle of costly burgers? Maybe try a burger from an actual sit-down restaurant some time?

sonic_c_tail posted...

People that support garbage practices are the reason gaming scene is so bad right now and has bad reputation.

People that are willing to pay $30 for several hundred hours of entertainment are the reason gaming is bad now? Are you seriously saying that? No wonder you haven't been able to answer my question from earlier.
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adjl posted...

Are you really using Burger King as the pinnacle of costly burgers? Maybe try a burger from an actual sit-down restaurant some time?

You mean the same sit down restaurants that take 1 hour just to serve you and try to push you a watered down scotch for 20?

adjl posted...

People that are willing to bend over and pay $30 for something that was 20 are the reason gaming is bad now? Am I seriously doubting that? No wonder nobody answer my questions

fixed for ya.
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sonic_c_tail posted...

You mean the same sit down restaurants that take 1 hour just to serve you and try to push you a watered down scotch for 20?

No, I mean literally anything classier than a fast food chain.

sonic_c_tail posted...

fixed for ya.

Nah, it was fine the way it was. I'll take your refusal to answer as an admission that you're just trolling.

_AdjI_ posted...

No, I mean literally anything classier than a fast food chain.

In-N-Out is better than a lot of regular burger restaurants.
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