Board 8 > Survivor: Ghost Island Topic 3 - This Cursed Season Has Matured Into A REAL Idol

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It was an objectively horrible move. By taking out the heart of Naviti, Malolo incited #NavitiStrong upon themselves. They were not flexible. They declared war and lost badly because of both bad luck (RNG in swaps) and because they made enemies when they should have made friends. If they had taken out Domenick instead of Morgan, it's recoverable because they can use Dom's idol shenanigans as a reason to fall upon. Taking out Morgan only made Naviti distrust them.

Doesn't matter which Malolo was on NuNuMalolo after the second swap. The one that wasn't Michael was going. Kellyn saw them as enemies and that wasn't changing.

It was one of the most heartbreaking moments of television I've ever watched. To see someone so positive and joyous go out in a vicious move like that was horrifying and brought upon the darkness. And no, Morgan's not another Haley Scarnato. Don't worry about that. Much like Wentworth, Morgan is a friend, not a crush.
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lol
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Dom and Wendell literally formed an alliance with Donathan and Laurel the next episode. Now, I know the editors have been subtle, but that alliance is really important to why the season is the way it is.

Also, maybe Kellyn targeted James less because he was untrustworthy and more because she was dead set on Naviti Strong, but shed also spent over a week with Michael compared to a few days with James.
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Oh dear god.
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Woo I feel like my girl Paras has a shot. Way more than I thought Josh had. All three are fine winners though. I feel like Kaela deserves it the most but gooooo Paras
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Espeon posted...

Dom and Wendell literally formed an alliance with Donathan and Laurel the next episode. Now, I know the editors have been subtle, but that alliance is really important to why the season is the way it is.

Also, maybe Kellyn targeted James less because he was untrustworthy and more because she was dead set on Naviti Strong, but she?d also spent over a week with Michael compared to a few days with James.

Frankly, the vote out of Morgan is what will likely get Luarel and Donathan to the end as it stands now.
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BBCAN6:

If Paras wins final HoH, does she take Kaela or Derek? Kaela, right? Likewise with the other two - Kaela takes Paras, right? How could she not after telling every previous winner she would cut Derek? And I gotta believe Derek goes with his heart and takes Kaela.

My biggest fear is Derek wins HoH, keeps Kaela, and wins handily. Not that Derek doesn't deserve it, just that it'd be kinda disappointing. I'd rather him take Paras to get that big move under his belt of cutting Kaela, kinda like Jon Pardy.

That said I think the most epic thing would be Kaela winning HoH and cutting Derek. Like holy shit, that would be incredible. Truly some of the best stuff given BBCAN strategy is largely dictated by showmances, and to have the woman cut the man is unprecedented in BB. I'm sure some women would've cut their lovers, it's just the opportunity at F3 never arose until now. Neda would've cut Jon, right? Kind of a shame she didn't get that chance, though Jon is great too, whereas I'm not a big fan of Derek.

Paras winning final HoH is gonna be tricky for me to process, because I'm not sure she stands a chance against either of them (sadly). I'd rather Kaela beat her than Derek, and I think she thinks Derek is a bigger threat, which is good.

I'm excited for the finale.
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I'm watching the extended interviews with the jurors of BBCAN6 over on ET Canada, and it looks like Paras has 3 near-100% locked votes in Ryan, Maddy, and Will, regardless of whether she's against Kaela or Derek.

It also looks like Olivia is likely a vote for either of Daela, Ali is less certain but also likely for Daela, while Johnny is on the fence. He partially wouldn't mind revenge against Daela, but also wants to give them props. He's the biggest question mark.

Derek has said for a while that he wouldn't vote for Kaela if she cuts him, which is understandable but also maybe too vengeful given the circumstances. If he actually follows through with that then Paras certainly wins.

On the flip side, if Derek cuts Kaela, I'd say Kaela definitely still votes for Derek. I'm just not sure if Johnny votes for Derek or not. Again, Paras has 3 confirmed votes, it just takes 1 more.

If I had to wager the outcomes based on who wins HoH:

Paras wins HoH, cuts Derek, I'd say she wins 4-3 on the back of winning the last two HoH's and cutting the biggest threat in the eyes of the jury.
If Paras cuts Kaela, she also might win 4-3, though less certain. I suspect Kaela votes Derek, but I could see Johnny giving Paras the 4th vote.

If Kaela cuts Derek, she wins 4-3. I'm assuming Derek will look past her 'betrayal', though I dunno. This is a tricky scenario.
If Kaela doesn't cut Derek, she loses, not sure how badly, but she loses. Doesn't seem to get Will, Maddy, or Ryan. I'd say she at least gets Paras.

If Derek cuts Kaela, he probably wins 4-3.
If Derek doesn't cut Kaela, he definitely wins.

Half the jury is really not rooting for Kaela, which is real bad for her. She's done a pretty bad job convincing them she's not as close to Derek as it's perceived. They all think she's far up his butt when it doesn't seem to be the case. That's on her as the finalist though, not the jury. I don't expect her to shake that perception tonight, though we've seen crazier things happen in BBCAN finales.
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So with all that said, it looks like the best road for each of the finalists is:

Paras should cut Derek.
Kaela should cut Derek.
Derek should cut Paras.

I think Kaela is definitely in the F2 tonight no matter what happens, which then means we're either getting a blowout with Derek winning, or a close vote between the two girls.
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This final 3 is so interesting. It really does seem like anything could happen

Matt Ligouri had an interesting tweet the other day - his take is that whoever wins f3 won't win the vote - the politics of who takes who are so strong that they will decide the swing vote

https://twitter.com/mattliguori/status/993165568319610881?s=19

In his world, Paras wins by getting brought by Kaela, but not by bringing either of them. If she wins f3, Kaela/Derek will just vote against her either way and she loses.

If Kaela win's f3, she brings Derek and loses the respect of the jury for not cutting her showmance and loses to Derek. Buy if she actually cuts Derek, he gets bitter and votes against her.

If Derek wins, he will bring Kaela and lose the vote. I think this is a toss up though. That vote can go either way.

I'm not sure I agree Paras can't win if she wins f3. I think the f4 HoH plus the f3 HoH gives her some comp credibility with Johnny. The ding dongs might be tough to convince but I don't think they are for sure against her either.

Also. ... I really enjoyed the Royals segment! I actually thought they offered a lot of insight to the F3. I also loved how Kaela butted heads with them, and basically responded to their "try to empathize with the jury" advice with "BUT I'M THE BEST.... and they'll see that."

She is fierce.
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Im down to two rhap survivor podcasts. B&B is my must listen and know it alls im behind since the live one.

Buttchunk.
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I havent listened to a single RHAP this season
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why tho
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I commute 35-45 minutes a day so it makes it easy to listen to. That being said I have skipped episodes if I don't like a guest
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I just havent been too into the season, and Ive also been working from home two days a week the past few months, so I lose 1.5-2 hours of podcast time a week. I already have two weekly 2.5 hour casts I listen to, so I havent found the time for RHAP.
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Bbcan finaleeeee
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I commute 1 and a half hours a day!

Too much bbcan coverage
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"Theyve fought demons, now they have to face the beast!"

Glad they beat Kane and Finn Balor but now Brock Lesnar is their toughest challenge yet
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There is a lot of gravitas to this finale and I'm OK with it.
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This is a silly challenge to relate to the theme of the season
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I hope kaela wins, i liked paras coming into the season so id be fine with her too.

I really hope the winner of the final hoh (if its not derek) wins though. I dont want the cutter to be punished for doing it
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Something something river styx hell underworld idk
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yay paras (so far)
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Peridiam posted...

She's done a pretty bad job convincing them she's not as close to Derek as it's perceived.

I think derek 100% wont vote for her but im hoping somehow by cutting derek she flips one of ryan/maddy/will away somehow...
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I mean theyre stacking coins
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well it's big brother, usually it's just "hang onto a rope" or something, not exactly losing a lot here
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GTM posted...

I mean theyre stacking coins

also fabio had to stack coins for a million dollars and that was top 5 greatest moment in all of survivor !!
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I just noticed probably part of why i really dont want derek to win goes all the way back to seeing kirstens dream get crushed on day 2
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yayayayaya kaela/paras part 3
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I hope no matter who wins they cut derek
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paras is definitely cutting derek

kaela better cut derek

pls
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sarah is enjoyable i just hated her season so much
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I believe kaela is dying to
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I believe the royals segment. She loves this too much not to
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Derek has been at the bottom of my rankings since jury

he's improved since then but still basically at the bottom, especially in this final 3
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Oh snap theyre in sync
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yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyesssssss
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Did the audience affect that?
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Question. If paras cuts derek, should kaela claim she was going to do it as well? Will that cost her dereks vote and the win if she does and will the other jurors believe/respect that?
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Yeessssssssss
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Coolcly where are youuuu
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What happened there johnny
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I love this
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Theres so much passion here
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Paras is winning after that. She has Johnny. Will. Ryan. Maddy.

No question. At worst 4-3.

This is great.
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Yeah i think paras has this.
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Lol keep me here
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Kaela knows she lost this
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Lol johnny
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Yessss Paras gooo
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