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UnholyMudcrab
05/13/18 12:45:54 AM
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http://observer.com/2018/05/juan-pablo-andrade-nazis-turning-point-usa/

Juan Pablo Andrade, a policy adviser for the pro-Trump America First nonprofit, appeared at a conference for the conservative nonprofit Turning Point USA in December.

While in his hotel room (which was paid for by the conference), he recorded a Snapchat video in which he claimed that The only thing the Nazis didnt get right is they didnt keep fucking going!

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Andrade said in a statement that the Nazi video was incomplete and fails to tell the full story.

This is a false attack by the leftist media, as they will stop at nothing to undermine anyone promoting the America First agenda, he said. As a Hispanic, any suggestion that I would support Nazis is insulting and disgusting, and anyone suggesting so should be ashamed of themselves.


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TheVipaGTS
05/13/18 12:47:39 AM
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Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?
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Frolex
05/13/18 12:48:53 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


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Snack
05/13/18 12:50:38 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?

lets not forget there are good people on both sides
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Phantom_Nook
05/13/18 12:54:23 AM
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Frolex posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?



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chill02
05/13/18 1:03:39 AM
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let's learn all the details first
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muchdran
05/13/18 1:04:44 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?

Jesus dude get some perspective
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Heineken14
05/13/18 1:04:50 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


Because the left are the REAL racists for pointing it out!
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Zikten
05/13/18 1:04:55 AM
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so he wanted nazis to conquer america? cause that's what would have happened.
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Dash_Harber
05/13/18 1:07:37 AM
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Why are the people who glorify Nazi scum also the ones with such a weak grasp on WWII? The Nazis did a fuck ton wrong. Hitler was a moron who basically was just good at propaganda and they basically got where they did through the element of surprise. As the war went on, they basically got spit roasted by their many, many blunders.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/13/18 1:07:40 AM
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This guy praises nazis then condemns leftists... Mal_Fet would start Mal_Functioning and would suffer from a head explosion if he was around to see this.
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Dash_Harber
05/13/18 1:09:03 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This guy praises nazis then condemns leftists... Mal_Fet would start Mal_Functioning and would suffer from a head explosion if he was around to see this.


Is he the one that argues that the Nazis were left wing? Yeah, that is hilariously stupid.
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HylianFox
05/13/18 1:10:24 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Mal_Fet would start Mal_Functioning

lol
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nicklebro
05/13/18 1:14:16 AM
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Keep going? Hitler kept going as the allies were bombing his underground bunker from both sides. Victory was such a guarantee that the Russians and Americans etc. werent fighting the Russians so much as they were racing to be the ones to capture Hitler, who killed himself and his wife in a hole underground. I mean you really can't stick it out much longer without being killed or captured.
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ChainedRedone
05/13/18 1:16:37 AM
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let's not jump to conclusions guys. wait for all the facts.
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 1:24:43 AM
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I never even heard of this dude but I find it hard to believe he was being serious. He claims he was quoting someone else but there's nothing to back that up as of yet. I'd chalk it up to him thinking he was being funny and edgy, when it's neither funny nor edgy. It's a super lazy attempt at humor.

I mean, it's not as if Neo-Nazis are known for being Hispanic.
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Dash_Harber
05/13/18 1:26:54 AM
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Funbazooka posted...

I mean, it's not as if Neo-Nazis are known for being Hispanic.


I mean, their definition of race was way different, and they were friendly with Franco's Spain. That's not even mentioning the numerous urban legends about Nazi brass fleeing to South America.
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Cosmic_Diabetic
05/13/18 1:27:55 AM
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You guys, we don't know the full story. So we need to never bring this up again. Ever.
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nicklebro
05/13/18 1:29:00 AM
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Idk why him being Hispanic would make him incapable of sympathizing with Hitler and the Nazis. Ethnic people are capable of ignorance too you know.
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 1:29:50 AM
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Things the Nazis got right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle

Things the Nazis got wrong:
everything else.
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nicklebro
05/13/18 1:30:44 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Things the Nazis got right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle

Things the Nazis got wrong:
everything else.

Didn't they also ban animal cruelty or something?
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 1:30:59 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...

I mean, it's not as if Neo-Nazis are known for being Hispanic.


I mean, their definition of race was way different, and they were friendly with Franco's Spain. That's not even mentioning the numerous urban legends about Nazi brass fleeing to South America.

Sure.. Nazi Germany had allies in WW2 but it didn't make those allies Nazis.
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Dash_Harber
05/13/18 1:32:09 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Funbazooka posted...

I mean, it's not as if Neo-Nazis are known for being Hispanic.


I mean, their definition of race was way different, and they were friendly with Franco's Spain. That's not even mentioning the numerous urban legends about Nazi brass fleeing to South America.

Sure.. Nazi Germany had allies in WW2 but it didn't make those allies Nazis.

I never said it did ... but I'm going to go ahead and take a leap here saying that they were probably pretty sympathetic to the Nazis. Except maybe Finland.
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 1:32:45 AM
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nicklebro posted...
Idk why him being Hispanic would make him incapable of sympathizing with Hitler and the Nazis. Ethnic people are capable of ignorance too you know.

Because Hitler and Nazis would not see him as an equal.
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nicklebro
05/13/18 1:36:11 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
nicklebro posted...
Idk why him being Hispanic would make him incapable of sympathizing with Hitler and the Nazis. Ethnic people are capable of ignorance too you know.

Because Hitler and Nazis would not see him as an equal.

So? Again, that doesnt prevent him from sympathizing with Hitler or the Nazis. Neither Hitler nor hardly any of the high ranking Nazis were part of the elite aryan race that they were promoting. So this guy being Hispanic doesn't stop him from being a neo Nazi.
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Bat178
05/13/18 1:37:12 AM
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They didn't keep going because the Russians stomped their asses and they went too far with the invasions of France and Poland, pissing off the rest of the world except Italy and Japan.
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Jaghave
05/13/18 1:37:59 AM
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@TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


why do people on the left keep on wanting to give the government more and more power which will allow nazi to do what they did?
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EnragedSlith
05/13/18 1:39:09 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Why are the people who glorify Nazi scum also the ones with such a weak grasp on WWII? The Nazis did a fuck ton wrong. Hitler was a moron who basically was just good at propaganda and they basically got where they did through the element of surprise. As the war went on, they basically got spit roasted by their many, many blunders.

They lost because America was bigger and they tried invading Russia. Nazi Germany was a crazy industrial powerhouse and well ahead of the rest of the world in a variety of scientific fields and war marchines. They also advanced medicine through horrific practices and are the foundation of our space programs. The ingenuity with which they approached war technologies is admirable.

As for why they were so successful, Europe was still recovering from the previous World War and didnt want to start another conflict. A lot of people also sympathized with them for getting dog piled on, and their initial expansions made sense as the land had belonged to them and identified as German. Then they ate a couple countries.
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nicklebro
05/13/18 1:42:55 AM
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Jaghave posted...
@TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


why do people on the left keep on wanting to give the government more and more power which will allow nazi to do what they did?

Probably because they're worried about the people who defend Nazis taking over.
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 1:50:34 AM
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nicklebro posted...
Funbazooka posted...
nicklebro posted...
Idk why him being Hispanic would make him incapable of sympathizing with Hitler and the Nazis. Ethnic people are capable of ignorance too you know.

Because Hitler and Nazis would not see him as an equal.

So? Again, that doesnt prevent him from sympathizing with Hitler or the Nazis. Neither Hitler nor hardly any of the high ranking Nazis were part of the elite aryan race that they were promoting. So this guy being Hispanic doesn't stop him from being a neo Nazi.

What exactly is he sympathizing with Nazis on, if that's what you contend?

Juan Pablo was recorded saying that Nazis got everything right except for one thing: not winning the war. Do you think this Juan Pablo truly believes that?

What he said isn't describing some particular element of Nazi ideology that he sympathizes with. It's an exaggerated phrase that very well could be uttered by an actual Neo-Nazi, or someone who's trying to be edgy or possibly quoting someone else.
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 1:54:17 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
Juan Pablo was recorded saying that Nazis got everything right except for one thing: not winning the war.

Which, of course, was directly caused by a continuous series of fuckups:
Not pressing the air war against UK
Invading Russia in spite of the non-aggression pact
Declaring war on the US right after Japan started shit
Getting rid of Rommel
Failure to support Mussolini while Patton was tearing shit up
Wasting time and resources on Maus, Ratte, and Monster, when the Tiger and Tiger 2 were already epic-tier battletanks
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Jaghave
05/13/18 1:55:12 AM
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nicklebro posted...
Jaghave posted...
@TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


why do people on the left keep on wanting to give the government more and more power which will allow nazi to do what they did?

Probably because they're worried about the people who defend Nazis taking over.


Nazi are authoritarian
Big government results in authottianism
Big government equal large police force and military
Your a liberal you hate both so why do you keep on pushing to increase centralize power
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Numenor
05/13/18 2:02:05 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This guy praises nazis then condemns leftists... Mal_Fet would start Mal_Functioning and would suffer from a head explosion if he was around to see this.


Is he the one that argues that the Nazis were left wing? Yeah, that is hilariously stupid.


Well considering that Nazi's were socialists who worshiped the state... yeah, they were leftists.
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UnholyMudcrab
05/13/18 2:02:14 AM
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 2:03:42 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
What has happened to my beautiful topic

What reaction were you hoping for?
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nicklebro
05/13/18 2:08:41 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
What exactly is he sympathizing with Nazis on, if that's what you contend?

Juan Pablo was recorded saying that Nazis got everything right except for one thing: not winning the war. Do you think this Juan Pablo truly believes that?

What he said isn't describing some particular element of Nazi ideology that he sympathizes with. It's an exaggerated phrase that very well could be uttered by an actual Neo-Nazi, or someone who's trying to be edgy or possibly quoting someone else.

Oh I'm not saying that, just pointing out that him being Hispanic doesn't preclude him from sympathizing with Nazis.

Jaghave posted...


Nazi are authoritarian
Big government results in authottianism
Big government equal large police force and military
Your a liberal you hate both so why do you keep on pushing to increase centralize power

Because it's not nearly as simple as you're trying to make it out to be. This "big gov vs small gov" is a false dichotomy that right wing media has been brainwashing people with for decades. It's akin to claiming that you're contradicting yourself if you promote small government but hate anarchists.

Numenor posted...

Well considering that Nazi's were socialists who worshiped the state... yeah, they were leftists.

Lmao, Nazis called themselves socialists for political reasons. Fact is that they formed as a response to the rise in communism, which was the actual left. It's why they attacked Russia and it's why the allies actually wanted to flip Germany and then go to war with Russia.

Anyone who actually believes the Nazis were leftists should be embarrassed.
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Esrac
05/13/18 2:14:56 AM
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Okay. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He claims the video was incomplete and didn't tell the whole story.

What missing portion of the video could possibly have made that sentence more forgivable?

"Psyche!"
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Numenor
05/13/18 2:15:49 AM
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Nazi's concentrated economic power through heavy state regulation and direction of corporations. They preached the primacy of the state over the individual. That is heavy leftist ideology. It has been pushed in education (which has a massive preponderance of left-leaning teachers/professors) over the past 70 years to label them as "right" because the left doesn't want to accept similarities in their views.
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 2:19:09 AM
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Goats posted...
If they'd put the resources that the sank into the holocaust instead into getting their troops prepped for winter warfare in Russia they might have had a chance at victory.

Cyanide gas is cheap, though.
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nicklebro
05/13/18 2:21:01 AM
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This debate has been had too many times for me to rehash it all just to educate someone who clearly doesn't care what the actual facts are.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001%3famp
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/13/18 2:21:33 AM
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Jaghave posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


why do people on the left keep on wanting to give the government more and more power which will allow nazi to do what they did?


What do you mean? What is the left doing that would... do that?
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 2:23:50 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Jaghave posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Why do people on the right keep defending Nazis so much?


why do people on the left keep on wanting to give the government more and more power which will allow nazi to do what they did?


What do you mean? What is the left doing that would... do that?

Thoughtcrime boogyman, mostly.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/13/18 2:24:07 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
nicklebro posted...
Funbazooka posted...
nicklebro posted...
Idk why him being Hispanic would make him incapable of sympathizing with Hitler and the Nazis. Ethnic people are capable of ignorance too you know.

Because Hitler and Nazis would not see him as an equal.

So? Again, that doesnt prevent him from sympathizing with Hitler or the Nazis. Neither Hitler nor hardly any of the high ranking Nazis were part of the elite aryan race that they were promoting. So this guy being Hispanic doesn't stop him from being a neo Nazi.

What exactly is he sympathizing with Nazis on, if that's what you contend?

Juan Pablo was recorded saying that Nazis got everything right except for one thing: not winning the war. Do you think this Juan Pablo truly believes that?

What he said isn't describing some particular element of Nazi ideology that he sympathizes with. It's an exaggerated phrase that very well could be uttered by an actual Neo-Nazi, or someone who's trying to be edgy or possibly quoting someone else.


Either you didn't read his rebuttle or it's so up your alley that nothing struck you as problematic with it.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/13/18 2:27:41 AM
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Numenor posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
This guy praises nazis then condemns leftists... Mal_Fet would start Mal_Functioning and would suffer from a head explosion if he was around to see this.


Is he the one that argues that the Nazis were left wing? Yeah, that is hilariously stupid.


Well considering that Nazis were socialists who worshiped the state... yeah, they were leftists.


Is "I agree with Mal about Nazis being leftists" or a "yes, that was Mal and this is the logic he used to defend his position" what you are saying?

Edit: also I edited out your erroneous apostrophe. You're welcome :)
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 2:27:56 AM
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If anything, the best thing the nazis did was surrendering in May.
Three months later, and Little Boy may well have been dropped on Berlin.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/13/18 2:30:35 AM
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Esrac posted...
Okay. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He claims the video was incomplete and didn't tell the whole story.

What missing portion of the video could possibly have made that sentence more forgivable?

"Psyche!"


"... that they didn't keep fucking going... in their quest to find hillary's emails and prosecute her for them!"
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Questionmarktarius
05/13/18 2:33:25 AM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
"... that they didn't keep fucking going... in their quest to find hillary's emails and prosecute her for them!"

are we still worrying about that?

I care about Hillary's emails about as much as I care about OJ Simpson murdering his ex-wife and some guy. Yeah, they both probably did it, but what's the point of wasting another second giving a damn about it much?
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 2:35:34 AM
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nicklebro posted...
Oh I'm not saying that, just pointing out that him being Hispanic doesn't preclude him from sympathizing with Nazis.


It was your suggestion that he sympathizes with Nazism but the recording doesn't really demonstrate this.

You're right, that a Hispanic person could sympathize with Nazism in some way. I grant you that. But we're specifically talking about this one guy and this one recording. We're no longer commenting on generalities.

He said something extremely socially taboo with zero known context. That's what we know so far.
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