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Swagnificent119 05/17/18 10:07:22 PM #102: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
They are human, get off your high horse. What is the fucking point of this designation? At first I figured it was because people wanted to point out they deserved human rights or something, but then you say "yeah, they should just be dead though" so you're going with the "well, they ARE literally human so he's wrong!" thing? That's really the way you're going to go? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 05/17/18 10:10:04 PM #103: |
Brah, its deeper than that, come on off that horse, take a good look
--- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 05/17/18 10:11:35 PM #104: |
"Even if they committed attrocities, we have to be willing to acknowledge they are still human."
If you read this sort of statement as a defense of the criminals or their actions, you aren't thinking with a clear head. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TaiIs82 05/17/18 10:12:07 PM #105: |
How amazing that after years of bashing the president (and half the country by extension), the press always manages to jump to the defense of rapist killers and find humanity in them.
More of that Hillary "empathize with our enemies" attitude, I guess. No matter how many people get killed from the sanctuary gang violence. --- Hero/Legend of 261. Lover of life,free speech,etc. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1196- The man who cared too much. Providing trickle-down knowledge since 2009 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Overheadnero 05/17/18 10:16:17 PM #106: |
"people stop being human after they commit a crime"
--- The King of Nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 05/17/18 10:18:12 PM #107: |
Overheadnero posted...
"people stop being human after they commit a crime" Brah, its deeper. They're human while committing a crime o.o --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/17/18 10:48:32 PM #108: |
Esrac posted...
Shuto-uke posted...iPhone_7 posted...Look, Im all for criticizing Trump since hes such an incompetent a**hole & deserves most of the hate he gets. Not "seemed to." It literally was a direct response to a question about MS-13. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 05/17/18 11:05:40 PM #109: |
Some people deserve Punisher-like justice thrust upon them. The FBI needs a boogeyman division to just "disappear" people.
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CanuckCowboy 05/17/18 11:09:36 PM #110: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Some people deserve Punisher-like justice thrust upon them. The FBI needs a boogeyman division to just "disappear" people. Imagine believing this. --- "I got a rollatruc, look." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giblet_Enjoyer 05/17/18 11:36:42 PM #111: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Some people deserve Punisher-like justice thrust upon them. The FBI needs a boogeyman division to just "disappear" people. That's a fantastic idea, actually. Seems more up the CIA's alley but definitely a good idea But yeah they're human, they just don't deserve the rights accorded that title, bretty simple --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Typhon 05/18/18 9:59:06 AM #113: |
Shuto-uke posted...
He's basically conflating all hispanics or all immigrants with ms-13 Isn't this projection? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 05/18/18 10:01:34 AM #114: |
Typhon posted...
Shuto-uke posted...He's basically conflating all hispanics or all immigrants with ms-13 How would it be projection? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/18/18 10:03:32 AM #115: |
Shuto-uke posted...
Typhon posted...Shuto-uke posted...He's basically conflating all hispanics or all immigrants with ms-13 Because you're the one conflating them, not Trump. Absolutely no part of his speech or later clarification indicates that's talking about anyone but MS-13. So either you are projecting that fact that you conflate those two things, or you're just hearing what you want to in order to justify your anti-Trump bias. Take your pick. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 05/18/18 10:08:34 AM #116: |
Overheadnero posted...
"people stop being human after they commit a crime" Considering how people speak of criminals on this board, I imagine a lot of them legit agree with that statement. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 05/18/18 10:10:18 AM #117: |
Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump.
--- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 10:13:47 AM #118: |
GOATTHlEF posted...
Well I guess we found the issue the Righters are going to try and derail the blue wave with. Pretty sure it'll work, too. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 05/18/18 10:14:02 AM #119: |
Kineth posted...
Overheadnero posted..."people stop being human after they commit a crime" "human rights only apply to people we like" --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 10:14:34 AM #120: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. Well leftists do value illegal immigrants over actual American citizens. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 05/18/18 10:18:16 AM #121: |
Thompson posted...
"human rights only apply to people we like" Calling someone an animal might be dehumanizing but it's not a statement on policy. No one is saying, "they're not human therefore . . ." You're inferring that because you're weak. Again, calling them animals is an emotional rhetorical device and nothing more. It shows his disdain for them and their crimes. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/18/18 10:19:22 AM #122: |
The Admiral posted...
Shuto-uke posted...Typhon posted...Shuto-uke posted...He's basically conflating all hispanics or all immigrants with ms-13 He didn't specify ms13, though it was part of the question that prompted his answer. But in conjunction with say, his "when they send people they aren't sending their best" line? It's pretty fucking reasonable to say that yeah, Trump is walking a fine line if he hasn't already crossed it. And he has. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 05/18/18 10:20:30 AM #123: |
The desperate left will use any excuse to shit on Trump. This topic proves that point.
--- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 05/18/18 10:20:33 AM #124: |
darkjedilink posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. No, those are the employers who hire them over the American worker and also pay them less in order to ruin the labor market. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 05/18/18 10:22:34 AM #125: |
I wish people had the integrity to address Trump's statements with ;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity Trump is a terrible person and worse leader but that doesn't mean literally* everything he says needs to be picked apart with the presupposition that it must* be wrong, factually/morally or otherwise. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlecSkorpio 05/18/18 11:12:20 AM #126: |
Thompson posted...
"human rights only apply to people we like" I mean, in the same way that a criminal loses certain rights when they commit crimes, maybe certain people should lose their human rights when they start dismembering and torturing other humans or things even worse than that. I know, crazy idea. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 11:18:01 AM #127: |
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. California literally aided and abetted an MS-13 member wanted for multiple rapes and murders because he was an illegal immigrant being targeted by ICE. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 05/18/18 11:22:49 AM #128: |
AlecSkorpio posted...
Thompson posted..."human rights only apply to people we like" You're right. It is a crazy idea and one that should never be implemented. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 05/18/18 11:25:51 AM #129: |
This could all be avoided if our president could form a complete fucking sentence
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AlecSkorpio 05/18/18 12:12:10 PM #130: |
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
AlecSkorpio posted...Thompson posted..."human rights only apply to people we like" I'll remember that the next time I hear about a video of one of these guys cutting the heart out of a child. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 05/18/18 12:20:42 PM #131: |
The Admiral posted...
Shuto-uke posted...Typhon posted...Shuto-uke posted...He's basically conflating all hispanics or all immigrants with ms-13 THIS is the one thing you respond to? And not my post addressing every single thing wrong with your other post? That is pathetic man, sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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50Blessings 05/18/18 12:54:21 PM #132: |
Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13.
--- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://imgur.com/xKI9rbb https://imgur.com/vcX6hik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 05/18/18 1:20:18 PM #133: |
50Blessings posted...
Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13. who did? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 05/18/18 2:51:00 PM #134: |
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. And the US government propped up and supported Saddam. So what. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 2:53:04 PM #135: |
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...Kineth posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. So liberals actions prove they care more about illegal immigrants than American citizens. i never argued America's government cared about the people of Iraq, so idk what your point is. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 05/18/18 2:57:09 PM #136: |
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Kineth 05/18/18 2:58:55 PM #137: |
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...darkjedilink posted...Kineth posted...darkjedilink posted...Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Imagine this being the issue to dig your heels in on against Trump. Sincere question: Do you actually believe what you said there in that first sentence? Anyway, yes, you don't know what my point was because I wasn't speaking of that and was advocating for Americans over illegals when I initially disagreed with you. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 3:04:09 PM #138: |
Kineth posted...
Sincere question: Do you actually believe what you said there in that first sentence? Yes, I do. California especially as proven it multiple times. The fact that sanctuary cities exist proves it. The fact that we literally have people defending MS-13, despite everything MS-13 has done, JUST to spite Trump proves it. And bullshit on 'advocating Americans over illegals.' Liberals are actively preventing corporations from working with law enforcement to prevent those very investigations. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 05/18/18 3:07:58 PM #139: |
Trump stans sure are defensive about this.
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50Blessings 05/18/18 3:08:29 PM #140: |
Shuto-uke posted...
50Blessings posted...Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13. Anyone crying foul over Trump calling them animals Unless you're honestly going for the literal angle, in which case of course CE users are acting like they have a social disorder. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://imgur.com/xKI9rbb https://imgur.com/vcX6hik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 05/18/18 3:11:48 PM #141: |
50Blessings posted...
Shuto-uke posted...50Blessings posted...Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13. people are saying he called all immigrants animals, based on his quote he did. You and others extrapolated it to OGOGOGOGO TEH MS13 DEFENSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/18/18 3:12:33 PM #142: |
ledbowman posted...
Trump stans sure are defensive about this. I can't even imagine the level of delusions that must be going through your head to say this after your extended humiliating meltdown in the other topic where you said stupid shit that includes: ledbowman posted... Get this god damn fascist out of my White House. ledbowman posted... So should we just execute them on-site since they're not people with rights? ledbowman posted... So are you guys cool with extrajudicial on-the-spot executions of these people you deem subhuman animals? Fucking LOL --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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50Blessings 05/18/18 3:14:09 PM #143: |
Shuto-uke posted...
50Blessings posted...Shuto-uke posted...50Blessings posted...Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13. No that's what it literally was. Good to know you are in fact delusional though. --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://imgur.com/xKI9rbb https://imgur.com/vcX6hik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 05/18/18 3:15:12 PM #144: |
The Admiral posted...
ledbowman posted...Trump stans sure are defensive about this. You ever gonna answer that question? --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 05/18/18 3:15:51 PM #145: |
ledbowman posted...
The Admiral posted...ledbowman posted...Trump stans sure are defensive about this. Yes, with laughter at how hard you're trying. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 05/18/18 3:16:33 PM #146: |
darkjedilink posted...
And bullshit on 'advocating Americans over illegals.' Liberals are actively preventing corporations from working with law enforcement to prevent those very investigations. Ok, this legit sounds nutty to me. California is apparently representative of all liberals and apparently my words aren't representative of a liberal's point of view. Either way, I wasn't justifying any of this shit in the first place so either have the argument with me as a representative of "liberals" or don't, but that's a point that wasn't disagreed on. All any of us have been disagreeing on is the language used. To think that that's some attempt to defend a criminal or a gang or anyone in particular is just not the rationale behind the dissent, at all. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim Kusanagi 05/18/18 3:16:38 PM #147: |
Complete_Idi0t posted...
I don't see in the dictionary where it says you change species if you do distasteful things Topic over --- Live to train. Train to fight. Fight to live. When you retire, think only on fighting. Take me away, I don't mind, but you better promise I'll be back in time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/18/18 3:54:49 PM #148: |
Shuto-uke posted...
50Blessings posted...Shuto-uke posted...50Blessings posted...Of course CE liberals would be standing up for members of MS13. That quote was in direct response to a question specifically about MS-13. This means he was talking about MS-13. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 05/18/18 4:01:23 PM #149: |
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Complete_Idi0t posted...I don't see in the dictionary where it says you change species if you do distasteful things --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Youngster_Joey_ 05/18/18 11:43:46 PM #150: |
So just to be clear
MS13 being animals = not okay and wrong Trump Supporters being deplorable/trumpanzees = just a little cheeky fun? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 05/19/18 12:04:20 AM #151: |
I dont think people are defending the gang
Just that broadly and vaguely calling them animals can be dangerous rhetoric, especially when govement agencies are under accusations of falsely accusing immigrants for being gang members. Trump calling the gang animals(a dehumanizations he hasnt give white people ircc) + a government agency calling as many immigrants as possible gang members = a potential mass deportation strategy that allows for the unfair treatment of even legal immigrants under false pretense. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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