Poll of the Day > Should the United Kingdom abolish the monarchy?

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trentpac
05/21/18 3:25:18 PM
#1:


Should the United Kingdom abolish the monarchy? - Results (6 votes)
Yes
66.67% (4 votes)
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No
33.33% (2 votes)
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I'm just a simple midwestern boy getting by living on central time but I'll never for the life of me understand why there's still a monarchy in the UK.
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TigerTycoon
05/21/18 3:29:54 PM
#2:


Even though the UK's monarchy is just a show I'm not sure what the point of them actually is.

They're just a government funded reality show at this point.
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dragon504
05/21/18 4:03:21 PM
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TigerTycoon posted...
Even though the UK's monarchy is just a show I'm not sure what the point of them actually is.

They're just a government funded reality show at this point.


They bring in tourist revenue, which is basically their purpose now.
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LeetCheet
05/21/18 4:39:56 PM
#4:


Same thing with most Royalties nowadays.
Just wasting the taxpayers' money just so the magazines and tabloids can write about it and pretend it's important.
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Kimbos_Egg
05/21/18 4:40:49 PM
#5:


why do you care?

LeetCheet posted...
Same thing with most Royalties nowadays.
Just wasting the taxpayers' money just so the magazines and tabloids can write about it and pretend it's important.


they actually bring in several times the amount they spend through tourism alone. not to mention state visits. but okay.
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Ogurisama
05/21/18 4:44:36 PM
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There is tourism
Plus they make money on renting out royal owned land.

They also do alot of ceremonial stuff in the UK, sure they dont do much for governing anymore, but still are a figurehead
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Revelation34
05/21/18 4:54:14 PM
#7:


trentpac posted...
I'm just a simple midwestern boy getting by living on central time but I'll never for the life of me understand why there's still a monarchy in the UK.


They are historical so there's no reason to abolish it. They have no real power so anything they do doesn't matter now.
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Kyuubi4269
05/21/18 5:22:49 PM
#8:


I'd rather abolish the government, the royal family seem like actual decent people.
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zhangliao1
05/21/18 5:28:43 PM
#9:


no they make the UK a lot of money and don't cause any harm it'd be silly to get rid of them at this point

although i wish they'd come to Australia more often
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WastelandCowboy
05/21/18 5:39:11 PM
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zhangliao1 posted...
no they make the UK a lot of money and don't cause any harm it'd be silly to get rid of them at this point

although i wish they'd come to Australia more often

Why? So they can bring all those poisonous snakes with them on a plane? Hell naw.
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I_Abibde
05/21/18 5:53:59 PM
#11:


No.

But they ought to abolish Charles and Camilla. :-P
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Ogurisama
05/21/18 5:57:34 PM
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I_Abibde posted...
No.

But they ought to abolish Charles and Camilla. :-P

Yeah, kinda hope they skip Charles and skip to William
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Kyuubi4269
05/21/18 6:02:03 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
I_Abibde posted...
No.

But they ought to abolish Charles and Camilla. :-P

Yeah, kinda hope they skip Charles and skip to William

Entirely possible he'll die first.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/21/18 6:03:37 PM
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It should either give it pre-George IV power or get rid of it. This figurehead stuff is bullshit, especially as the UK and "old world order" burns to the ground. You either embrace that or resist it, not just put your head down like some pussy and drift along.
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TyVulpine
05/21/18 8:40:07 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
I_Abibde posted...
No.

But they ought to abolish Charles and Camilla. :-P

Yeah, kinda hope they skip Charles and skip to William

Technically, they can, because there's no law saying that the immediate descendant must assume the throne.Parliament chooses the successor, not the current king/queen.
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Zeus
05/21/18 10:41:52 PM
#16:


trentpac posted...
I'm just a simple midwestern boy getting by living on central time but I'll never for the life of me understand why there's still a monarchy in the UK.


It's tradition!
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trentpac
05/22/18 5:49:06 AM
#17:


Interesting. I didn't think that this poll would be so close. I still haven't changed my mind on the matter. I just think that a nation's ideals are important and the whole idea of royalty is very off-putting to me...but you know...opinions and whatnot.
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JGA1980
05/22/18 6:41:31 AM
#18:


No.

I like the fact that the armed forces answer to the monarch and not the current government of the day, because ironically, it seems like a good safeguard against tyranny by the government or one political party.

Also, even though it is now largely a symbolic position which rarely exercises its power, it's still good to have such a symbolic embodiment of the nation which is above party politics and which in theory, could put its foot down and stop any government from doing something which could harm the nation.
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Silver Shadow X
05/22/18 8:08:10 AM
#20:


It's entertaining, in an extremely peripheral way. I wouldn't want the UK to not have this thing going on.
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do_ob_tpkillr
05/22/18 8:17:52 AM
#21:


Did a quick read up on the queen's actual powers. Apparently she can appoint and dismiss ministers, including the prime ministers. She can summon or suspend the parliament, declare war, control the armed forces, commission officers, pardon death row inmates, and has veto power over bills.

And she has complete immunity from all British laws.
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zhangliao1
05/22/18 8:35:38 AM
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Ogurisama posted...
I_Abibde posted...
No.

But they ought to abolish Charles and Camilla. :-P

Yeah, kinda hope they skip Charles and skip to William

no arguments here
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KJ StErOiDs
05/22/18 8:42:58 AM
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If it's important to them I'd let them keep it.
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EvilMegas
05/22/18 8:43:58 AM
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Why? It's mostly for show.
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Runner_style
05/22/18 8:52:40 AM
#25:


KJ StErOiDs posted...
If it's important to them I'd let them keep it.


They aren't really important to us, if given an official vote I'd bet everything I own that the result would be to abolish the monarchy.
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wah_wah_wah
05/22/18 11:36:03 AM
#26:


It's not my decision, but I would think living under a monarchy would be humiliating, even if it were only symbolic.

do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Did a quick read up on the queen's actual powers. Apparently she can appoint and dismiss ministers, including the prime ministers. She can summon or suspend the parliament, declare war, control the armed forces, commission officers, pardon death row inmates, and has veto power over bills.

And she has complete immunity from all British laws.

De jure not de facto. If the queen actually tried to do any of that she'd be out on her ass in less than a second.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/18 11:57:27 AM
#27:


do_ob_tpkillr posted...
Did a quick read up on the queen's actual powers. Apparently she can appoint and dismiss ministers, including the prime ministers. She can summon or suspend the parliament, declare war, control the armed forces, commission officers, pardon death row inmates, and has veto power over bills.

And she has complete immunity from all British laws.

This is the important one. The monarchy stays out of politics, but should a prime minister decide to shit on her people, she can veto it and install a better representative. This makes us basically immune to Senate-level corruption.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/18 11:58:28 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...
It's not my decision, but I would think living under a monarchy would be humiliating, even if it were only symbolic.

Living under Trump isn't better lol
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InfernalFive
05/22/18 12:07:41 PM
#29:


Gives the rest of the world something to point and laugh at. Plus money, tourism, etc.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/18 12:09:34 PM
#30:


InfernalFive posted...
Gives the rest of the world something to point and laugh at. Plus money, tourism, etc.

You don laf at da queen
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InfernalFive
05/22/18 12:10:03 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
InfernalFive posted...
Gives the rest of the world something to point and laugh at. Plus money, tourism, etc.

You don laf at da queen

But have you seen the memes????
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wah_wah_wah
05/22/18 12:29:40 PM
#32:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
It's not my decision, but I would think living under a monarchy would be humiliating, even if it were only symbolic.

Living under Trump isn't better lol

I'd prefer to call it living under an electoral college
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/18 12:31:28 PM
#33:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
It's not my decision, but I would think living under a monarchy would be humiliating, even if it were only symbolic.

Living under Trump isn't better lol

I'd prefer to call it living under an electoral college

So you're less embarrassed to live under a tyrannical council than under a family ordained by God who doesn't interfere with your life at all?
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wwinterj25
05/22/18 12:36:00 PM
#34:


TigerTycoon posted...
Even though the UK's monarchy is just a show I'm not sure what the point of them actually is.


Agreed. Still on that note it really makes no difference to me that they are there or not.
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wah_wah_wah
05/22/18 12:42:52 PM
#35:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
It's not my decision, but I would think living under a monarchy would be humiliating, even if it were only symbolic.

Living under Trump isn't better lol

I'd prefer to call it living under an electoral college

So you're less embarrassed to live under a tyrannical council than under a family ordained by God who doesn't interfere with your life at all?

I don't live under the latter so your question makes no sense. I don't think either is acceptable, but the royal family is particularly anachronistic. Whether it personally affects me or not has nothing to do with it being embarrassing to live in a society that believes that someone has special rights simply because of what snatch they fell out of.
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wwinterj25
05/22/18 12:48:27 PM
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DeathMagnetic80
05/22/18 1:19:38 PM
#37:


If the majority of the British wanted it, sure. They seem ok with it, so, meh.
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Revelation34
05/22/18 3:57:27 PM
#38:


trentpac posted...
Interesting. I didn't think that this poll would be so close. I still haven't changed my mind on the matter. I just think that a nation's ideals are important and the whole idea of royalty is very off-putting to me...but you know...opinions and whatnot.


How would royalty be off putting? Especially if they have no power.

Mr Hangman posted...
Can't believe all the bootlickers in this topic. And I can't believe that anyone brings up "tourism", as if that's relevant at all or as if turning the palace into a museum wouldn't bring just as many or more tourists.


I don't think you know what a bootlicker is.

Runner_style posted...
They aren't really important to us, if given an official vote I'd bet everything I own that the result would be to abolish the monarchy.


I guess you will enjoy being homeless.

wah_wah_wah posted...
Whether it personally affects me or not has nothing to do with it being embarrassing to live in a society that believes that someone has special rights simply because of what snatch they fell out of.


Well besides the fact it isn't embarrassing. It literally has no bearing on you so it shouldn't matter at all.
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Kyuubi4269
05/22/18 4:00:49 PM
#39:


wah_wah_wah posted...
I don't live under the latter so your question makes no sense.

You posed the circumstance of you being under a monarchy, don't be dense.

wah_wah_wah posted...
I don't think either is acceptable, but the royal family is particularly anachronistic. Whether it personally affects me or not has nothing to do with it being embarrassing to live in a society that believes that someone has special rights simply because of what snatch they fell out of.

Every country with inheritance accepts special rights due to birth.
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wah_wah_wah
05/22/18 5:47:19 PM
#40:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
You posed the circumstance of you being under a monarchy, don't be dense.

It's your responsibility to phrase your questions in a coherent way, not mine.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Every country with inheritance accepts special rights due to birth.

Inheritance isn't the same thing as monarchy no matter how you twist.
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Revelation34
05/23/18 2:16:43 AM
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Inheritance isn't the same thing as monarchy no matter how you twist.


Both don't affect you so they might as well be the same thing to you.
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trentpac
05/23/18 4:30:11 PM
#42:


Hmmm
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Kyuubi4269
05/23/18 4:36:48 PM
#43:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Inheritance isn't the same thing as monarchy no matter how you twist.

Inheriting a country that was won in a way people accepted once upon a time.
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