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OhhhJa
05/24/18 8:55:55 AM
#51:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
adjl posted...
There's a pretty major difference between what's typically meant by "advocating violence" (i.e. causing appreciable physical harm to somebody) and laughing at somebody who got splashed with water

If you're laughing off throwing water at someone as some sort of statement, you're part of the problem. It's not that far of a leap to beating the shit out of someone.

adjl posted...
There's also a pretty major difference between "saying things [people] don't like" (i.e. "Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie come at me nerds") and hate speech.

Nonetheless adults should be able to respond to both without resorting to cowardly attacks.


Splashing water on someone IS INDEED quite a far leap from beating the shit out of them.

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.

While Richard Spencer has some really fucked up and dangerous ideas, violence is only going to empower a guy like that and make opposition look bad. But yeah... as far as throwing water on someone, it's not that far of a leap from fighting because fights have been started for far less. If someone threw water on me at a bar, I'm not sure how I'd react but that's definitely someone looking for a fight if they do that
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OhhhJa
05/24/18 9:07:51 AM
#52:


adjl posted...
OhhhJa posted...
VeeVees posted...
Violence is never the answer, but we need our guns to fight the evil government.

I don't believe we need to actually fear a government invasion but yeah... obviously, violence to combat violence is reasonable


And if they oppress you non-violently?

Forgot to respond to this. Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success. Words and demonstrations can be powerful. As far as governments go, hitting them where it hurts can have success. Hit them in their pockets
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knivesX2004
05/24/18 9:20:17 AM
#53:


OhhhJa posted...
hitting them where it hurts can have success.

*10 seconds later after hitting somebody where it hurts*
"No not like that."
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Kyuubi4269
05/24/18 9:22:38 AM
#54:


OhhhJa posted...
Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success.

That's because the US isn't a tyrannical dictatorship. Protests work by showing the government where efforts would appease most people, if the government doesn't want the people to be happy then it's pointless.
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OhhhJa
05/24/18 9:40:57 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success.

That's because the US isn't a tyrannical dictatorship. Protests work by showing the government where efforts would appease most people, if the government doesn't want the people to be happy then it's pointless.

Violence is pretty useless in those cases as well because the population already has no resources. North Korea is a solid example of that
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OhhhJa
05/24/18 9:41:07 AM
#56:


knivesX2004 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
hitting them where it hurts can have success.

*10 seconds later after hitting somebody where it hurts*
"No not like that."

Lol
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Kyuubi4269
05/24/18 9:42:10 AM
#57:


OhhhJa posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success.

That's because the US isn't a tyrannical dictatorship. Protests work by showing the government where efforts would appease most people, if the government doesn't want the people to be happy then it's pointless.

Violence is pretty useless in those cases as well because the population already has no resources. North Korea is a solid example of that

If the US became tyrannical its resources wouldn't just disappear in to the ether.
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OhhhJa
05/24/18 9:48:21 AM
#58:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success.

That's because the US isn't a tyrannical dictatorship. Protests work by showing the government where efforts would appease most people, if the government doesn't want the people to be happy then it's pointless.

Violence is pretty useless in those cases as well because the population already has no resources. North Korea is a solid example of that

If the US became tyrannical its resources wouldn't just disappear in to the ether.

Yeah but that's not what I was referring to. Plus, I don't think we have to worry about the US becoming anything like NK
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 10:57:43 AM
#59:


OhhhJa posted...
adjl posted...
OhhhJa posted...
VeeVees posted...
Violence is never the answer, but we need our guns to fight the evil government.

I don't believe we need to actually fear a government invasion but yeah... obviously, violence to combat violence is reasonable


And if they oppress you non-violently?

Forgot to respond to this. Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success. Words and demonstrations can be powerful. As far as governments go, hitting them where it hurts can have success. Hit them in their pockets


Fascinating theory.

https://timeline.com/by-the-end-of-his-life-martin-luther-king-realized-the-validity-of-violence-4de177a8c87b
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Revelation34
05/24/18 11:16:25 AM
#60:


wah_wah_wah posted...

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.


Yeah splashing water on somebody is the same as molesting them.
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 11:35:34 AM
#62:


Zangulus posted...
Revelation34 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.


Yeah splashing water on somebody is the same as molesting them.


Youre using the wrong definition of molestation. The word isnt inherently sexual.


No it still fits.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 11:52:45 AM
#63:


Trespasser2003 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
adjl posted...
OhhhJa posted...
VeeVees posted...
Violence is never the answer, but we need our guns to fight the evil government.

I don't believe we need to actually fear a government invasion but yeah... obviously, violence to combat violence is reasonable


And if they oppress you non-violently?

Forgot to respond to this. Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success. Words and demonstrations can be powerful. As far as governments go, hitting them where it hurts can have success. Hit them in their pockets


Fascinating theory.

https://timeline.com/by-the-end-of-his-life-martin-luther-king-realized-the-validity-of-violence-4de177a8c87b

If you make it a game of violence, the hard right automatically wins. They give no fucks about people and are therefore best set up to win that fight. Martin Luther King never said that violence is the first means, only that force should only be the absolute last resort if dialogue is impossible.
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 11:57:00 AM
#64:


Zeus posted...
Somehow assaulting somebody because you're mad about the way you think they perceive and talk about your race seems completely counterproductive.

Racists dont deserve respect or sympathy
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 12:01:56 PM
#65:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
adjl posted...
OhhhJa posted...
VeeVees posted...
Violence is never the answer, but we need our guns to fight the evil government.

I don't believe we need to actually fear a government invasion but yeah... obviously, violence to combat violence is reasonable


And if they oppress you non-violently?

Forgot to respond to this. Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success. Words and demonstrations can be powerful. As far as governments go, hitting them where it hurts can have success. Hit them in their pockets


Fascinating theory.

https://timeline.com/by-the-end-of-his-life-martin-luther-king-realized-the-validity-of-violence-4de177a8c87b

If you make it a game of violence, the hard right automatically wins. They give no fucks about people and are therefore best set up to win that fight. Martin Luther King never said that violence is the first means, only that force should only be the absolute last resort if dialogue is impossible.


Of course it's a last resort... but it's also flat-out idiotic to think that being peace-minded liberal wanting equality and/or tolerance means that you should just roll over and constantly take the abuse. Being angry is reasonable, and fighting back is reasonable. The people who always are the ones telling people to sit down, stand up, stop using violence, protest peacefully... those people tend to be the ones who are in power and do not want to share. AND they are usually the ones who tend to think that war is great and everyone should have guns because violence is the answer.
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 12:02:12 PM
#66:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
adjl posted...
There's a pretty major difference between what's typically meant by "advocating violence" (i.e. causing appreciable physical harm to somebody) and laughing at somebody who got splashed with water

If you're laughing off throwing water at someone as some sort of statement, you're part of the problem. It's not that far of a leap to beating the shit out of someone.

adjl posted...
There's also a pretty major difference between "saying things [people] don't like" (i.e. "Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie come at me nerds") and hate speech.

Nonetheless adults should be able to respond to both without resorting to cowardly attacks.


Splashing water on someone IS INDEED quite a far leap from beating the shit out of them.

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, dude.
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 12:03:15 PM
#67:


PK_Spam posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
adjl posted...
There's a pretty major difference between what's typically meant by "advocating violence" (i.e. causing appreciable physical harm to somebody) and laughing at somebody who got splashed with water

If you're laughing off throwing water at someone as some sort of statement, you're part of the problem. It's not that far of a leap to beating the shit out of someone.

adjl posted...
There's also a pretty major difference between "saying things [people] don't like" (i.e. "Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie come at me nerds") and hate speech.

Nonetheless adults should be able to respond to both without resorting to cowardly attacks.


Splashing water on someone IS INDEED quite a far leap from beating the shit out of them.

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, dude.


Just wait until they find out what happened to the Nazis in WW2. Although I'm sure it's not long before that's all called "fake news."
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:04:56 PM
#68:


Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
adjl posted...
OhhhJa posted...
VeeVees posted...
Violence is never the answer, but we need our guns to fight the evil government.

I don't believe we need to actually fear a government invasion but yeah... obviously, violence to combat violence is reasonable


And if they oppress you non-violently?

Forgot to respond to this. Non violent protests have been successful in the past. MLK never addvocated violence and had plenty of success. Words and demonstrations can be powerful. As far as governments go, hitting them where it hurts can have success. Hit them in their pockets


Fascinating theory.

https://timeline.com/by-the-end-of-his-life-martin-luther-king-realized-the-validity-of-violence-4de177a8c87b

If you make it a game of violence, the hard right automatically wins. They give no fucks about people and are therefore best set up to win that fight. Martin Luther King never said that violence is the first means, only that force should only be the absolute last resort if dialogue is impossible.


Of course it's a last resort... but it's also flat-out idiotic to think that being peace-minded liberal wanting equality and/or tolerance means that you should just roll over and constantly take the abuse. Being angry is reasonable, and fighting back is reasonable. The people who always are the ones telling people to sit down, stand up, stop using violence, protest peacefully... those people tend to be the ones who are in power and do not want to share. AND they are usually the ones who tend to think that war is great and everyone should have guns because violence is the answer.

Let's bring context to what we're talking about. This is a woman sitting in a restaurant minding her own business. You don't get to go and violate her space because you find her views objectionable.
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 12:05:42 PM
#69:


So the people waving around Nazi flags and armbands arent real then? The same ones that say that I shouldnt be in the states just because of the color of my skin, and I should be dead?

No, pretty sure those are Nazis
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:06:22 PM
#70:


PK_Spam posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
adjl posted...
There's a pretty major difference between what's typically meant by "advocating violence" (i.e. causing appreciable physical harm to somebody) and laughing at somebody who got splashed with water

If you're laughing off throwing water at someone as some sort of statement, you're part of the problem. It's not that far of a leap to beating the shit out of someone.

adjl posted...
There's also a pretty major difference between "saying things [people] don't like" (i.e. "Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie come at me nerds") and hate speech.

Nonetheless adults should be able to respond to both without resorting to cowardly attacks.


Splashing water on someone IS INDEED quite a far leap from beating the shit out of them.

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, dude.

What a terrible way to dishonor the victims of Nazis by taking one of their many cherished methods of silencing people through force.
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 12:14:05 PM
#71:


wah_wah_wah posted...
Let's bring context to what we're talking about. This is a woman sitting in a restaurant minding her own business. You don't get to go and violate her space because you find her views objectionable.


(sorry I don't know how to get the quote count down properly)

You must not have read the statement from the staff. She was not sitting nicely minding her own business. She was making snide comments on her way out, and you can see in the video that the person who threw water at her was several feet away and that it barely even splashed her. I'd wager that she got less water on her than she would have accidentally flushing while still sitting on the shitter.
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Trespasser2003
05/24/18 12:15:19 PM
#72:


wah_wah_wah posted...
PK_Spam posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
adjl posted...
There's a pretty major difference between what's typically meant by "advocating violence" (i.e. causing appreciable physical harm to somebody) and laughing at somebody who got splashed with water

If you're laughing off throwing water at someone as some sort of statement, you're part of the problem. It's not that far of a leap to beating the shit out of someone.

adjl posted...
There's also a pretty major difference between "saying things [people] don't like" (i.e. "Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie come at me nerds") and hate speech.

Nonetheless adults should be able to respond to both without resorting to cowardly attacks.


Splashing water on someone IS INDEED quite a far leap from beating the shit out of them.

I notice the same people who applaud this also applauded Spencer getting punched. It's the same type of principle - "you don't deserve to be unmolested, I have rights to invade your space"... it is creepy as fuck that anyone would try to minimize it.

Richard Spencer is a Nazi, dude.

What a terrible way to dishonor the victims of Nazis by taking one of their many cherished methods of silencing people through force.


Yes... tell that to the soldiers who silenced the Nazis through force. There was a whole war about it. You should probs check out some information on it outside of Call of Duty 2.
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 12:19:19 PM
#73:


What was she even saying as she left? This is the first Ive heard of her saying something bitchy as she was leaving.

Was it vaguely racist. I BET it was vaguely racist.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:19:39 PM
#74:


Trespasser2003 posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
Let's bring context to what we're talking about. This is a woman sitting in a restaurant minding her own business. You don't get to go and violate her space because you find her views objectionable.


(sorry I don't know how to get the quote count down properly)

You must not have read the statement from the staff. She was not sitting nicely minding her own business. She was making snide comments on her way out, and you can see in the video that the person who threw water at her was several feet away and that it barely even splashed her. I'd wager that she got less water on her than she would have accidentally flushing while still sitting on the shitter.

So she threw some shade. That doesn't give you any right to violate her space. In the end what are you trying to argue by saying she didn't get that much water on her? It's the same minimization bullshit. The intent was there.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:21:39 PM
#75:


Trespasser2003 posted...
Yes... tell that to the soldiers who silenced the Nazis through force. There was a whole war about it. You should probs check out some information on it outside of Call of Duty 2.

This person wasn't a combat soldier facing bullets, they were a person in a Minneapolis restaurant facing unkind words. Are you from this fucking planet? Or are you from the distant country of Dumfuckistan
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 12:21:52 PM
#76:


You cant spout racist bullshit all the time and then expect people to like you, bro.
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 12:25:16 PM
#77:


I'm not saying they have to like her. I personally find her loathsome. But just because you don't like her wretched opinions, that doesn't justify you going and molesting her however way you want. Are you a lunatic?
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 12:31:26 PM
#78:


Shes devaluing humans lives based on the color of their skin, bro.

Im sure thats not a deeply personal issue to YOU, but to me, its a giant threat.
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Revelation34
05/24/18 12:42:48 PM
#79:


wah_wah_wah posted...
I'm not saying they have to like her. I personally find her loathsome. But just because you don't like her wretched opinions, that doesn't justify you going and molesting her however way you want. Are you a lunatic?


Why are you asking people if they are lunatics when you keep purposely using a loaded word like "molested"?
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 1:39:00 PM
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That's freedom of speech. Hitler liked freedom of speech, when he agreed with it.
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PK_Spam
05/24/18 2:11:54 PM
#81:


wah_wah_wah posted...
That's freedom of speech. Hitler liked freedom of speech, when he agreed with it.

Freedom of speech protects you from the law. It doesnt keep other people from calling you out on your bullshit
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wah_wah_wah
05/24/18 5:16:46 PM
#82:


PK_Spam posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
That's freedom of speech. Hitler liked freedom of speech, when he agreed with it.

Freedom of speech protects you from the law. It doesnt keep other people from calling you out on your bullshit

You're not "calling them out" when you're molesting them and invading their space
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Revelation34
05/24/18 5:29:00 PM
#83:


wah_wah_wah posted...
PK_Spam posted...
wah_wah_wah posted...
That's freedom of speech. Hitler liked freedom of speech, when he agreed with it.

Freedom of speech protects you from the law. It doesnt keep other people from calling you out on your bullshit

You're not "calling them out" when you're molesting them and invading their space


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76634870/901908958
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