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known2FAIL
05/23/18 1:44:50 PM
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Lmao

http://thehill.com/regulation/389021-judge-rules-trump-cant-block-users-on-twitter?amp

A federal district court judge on Wednesday ruled that President Trump can't block people from viewing his Twitter feed over their political views.

Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald, of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, said President Trump's Twitter account is a public forum and blocking people who reply to his tweets with differing opinions constitutes viewpoint discrimination, which violates the First Amendment.

The court's ruling is a major win for the Knight Foundation, which brought the lawsuit on behalf of seven people who were blocked from the @realDonaldTrump account because of opinions they expressed in reply tweets.

Buchwald, who was appointed by President Clinton, rejected Trump's argument that the First Amendment does not apply in this case and that president's personal First Amendment interests supersede those of plaintiffs.

She suggested in her 75-page opinion that Trump could have ignored his opponents' reply tweets.

"No First Amendment harm arises when a government's 'challenged conduct' is simply to ignore the [speaker]," as the Supreme Court has affirmed 'that it is free to do,' " she wrote.

"Stated otherwise, 'a person's right to speak is not infringed when government simply ignores that person while listening to others,' or when the government 'amplifies' the voice of one speaker over those of others."

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TheVipaGTS
05/23/18 1:46:01 PM
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As President doesn't his twitter more or less become an official Government account while he's in office? i think i remember hearing that his personal account will be archived for the years he serves.

If so then that's fair...
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 1:48:02 PM
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Isn't there a potus Twitter and his own personal Twitter. I agree the potus Twitter account shouldn't be allowed to block but his personal one should
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sktgamer_13dude
05/23/18 1:49:38 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Isn't there a potus Twitter and his own personal Twitter. I agree the potus Twitter account shouldn't be allowed to block but his personal one should

His tweets are considered official statements while in office.
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Solid Sonic
05/23/18 1:51:04 PM
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Jeez, that's either a good or an insane precedent to set.
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 1:52:41 PM
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sktgamer_13dude
05/23/18 1:52:46 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Jeez, that's either a good or an insane precedent to set.

Its probably only for government officials. He can do whatever when he leaves office.
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TheVipaGTS
05/23/18 1:53:02 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Jeez, that's either a good or an insane precedent to set.

We're moving towards social media presidencies and I think its a good thing to now allow someone in power to block dissenting views. His Twitter is his official account. it represents him and he represents the country. It shouldn't be a circle jerk in the comments. when he leaves office he can do whatever he wants.
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Shuto-uke
05/23/18 1:53:55 PM
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lmao he won't obey the court. Constitutional crisis incoming.

Also, Neil "textualist" Gorsuch will argue that twitter didn't exist in 1787 so the 1st amendment doesn't cover it. Even though apparently the 2nd amendment does cover weapons that can spray 100 bullets in a second as per him..
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 1:54:14 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Isn't there a potus Twitter and his own personal Twitter. I agree the potus Twitter account shouldn't be allowed to block but his personal one should

His tweets are considered official statements while in office.


Yeah but I don't see how blocking his private Twitter account is blocking free speech. I get the official potus account but this? I dunno man
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pinkgorilla
05/23/18 1:54:17 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Isn't there a potus Twitter and his own personal Twitter. I agree the potus Twitter account shouldn't be allowed to block but his personal one should

He shouldn't have a personal twitter that he uses like he does. It's childish and unprofessional.
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_BIueMonk
05/23/18 1:55:09 PM
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he'll just block the court on twitter
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 1:55:29 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah but I don't see how blocking his private Twitter account is blocking free speech. I get the official potus account but this? I dunno man


The White House has claimed that tweets from @realDonaldTrump are official statements.
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Roshon
05/23/18 1:56:08 PM
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Is this even enforceable? Trump gets away with a lot of shit
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 1:58:39 PM
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pinkgorilla posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Isn't there a potus Twitter and his own personal Twitter. I agree the potus Twitter account shouldn't be allowed to block but his personal one should

He shouldn't have a personal twitter that he uses like he does. It's childish and unprofessional.


That is subjective

Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah but I don't see how blocking his private Twitter account is blocking free speech. I get the official potus account but this? I dunno man


The White House has claimed that tweets from @realDonaldTrump are official statements.


Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account. The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point
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known2FAIL
05/23/18 1:59:39 PM
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if he gets impeached because he blocked a troll on his twitter? That would be all time funny! LMAO
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BLAKUboy
05/23/18 2:00:53 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he gets impeached because he blocked a troll on his twitter? That would be all time funny! LMAO

If nothing else, this will make for good attack ads about Republicans being against the first amendment when they refuse to hold Trump accountable for violating it.
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 2:03:19 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he gets impeached because he blocked a troll on his twitter? That would be all time funny! LMAO


Probably not. The left would have done the impeaching in such a scenario and that doing something so ridiculous would turn off a lot of people from the left
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known2FAIL
05/23/18 2:04:51 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
known2FAIL posted...
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he gets impeached because he blocked a troll on his twitter? That would be all time funny! LMAO


Probably not. The left would have done the impeaching in such a scenario and that doing something so ridiculous would turn off a lot of people from the left


True. How petty would you have to be to impeach over that?
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 2:05:54 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 2:08:28 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?


I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?
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known2FAIL
05/23/18 2:10:17 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?


I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?


No. Not while you are a government figure
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gatorsPENSbucs
05/23/18 2:12:20 PM
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Twitter and the president in the same sentence, and the word judge in the sentence as well. What an awful time to be alive.

Think Im gonna fire up my Twitter and be a dick to a bunch of people until the right one blocks me.
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catboy0_0
05/23/18 2:13:21 PM
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fair. next.
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 2:14:51 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?


I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?


No. Not while you are a government figure


I guess we will disagree. I think people should have a life outside of work is all.
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 2:18:08 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?


No.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
I guess we will disagree. I think people should have a life outside of work is all.


The role of president doesn't have an "outside of work". What was the last tweet of Trump's that isn't related to the office of president?
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 2:19:47 PM
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Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?
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sktgamer_13dude
05/23/18 2:20:25 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?


I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?

Not when his private account is considered official government statements.

The day he lives office, he can block literally anyone he wants. When in office though (while keeping his personal account official statements), he cant block people just because they hurt his feelings.

Stop being dense.
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KingCrabCake
05/23/18 2:21:11 PM
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Fucking babies on both sides.
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JE19426
05/23/18 2:21:46 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?


If he uses his personal account, to make official statements, then no I don't think he should be able to block people. That prevents those people from accessing all of the official statements. If he wants to ignore them, he can do so as the judge points out.
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KingCrabCake
05/23/18 2:22:05 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?


Of course not..they had no problem with obama blowing up kids and deporting kids.

But now...well thats all they care about
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/23/18 2:22:05 PM
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Someone should totally just troll Trump's twitter to goad him into blocking them.
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue
05/23/18 2:22:10 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Anteaterking posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Yeah, his statements are official statements. Just like everyone else's Twitter account.


Not everyone's Twitter accounts are official government statements.

Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
The first amendment is strictly about government blocking free speech. I'm not sure I get your point


So you understand why it applies to @potus but not @realDonaldTrump or do you not understand how it applies to either of them?


I get what you are saying but it's still ridiculous in practice. He certainly should be allowed to block people from his private account, don't you agree despite what the judge said?

Not when his private account is considered official government statements.

The day he lives office, he can block literally anyone he wants. When in office though (while keeping his personal account official statements), he cant block people just because they hurt his feelings.

Stop being dense.


I said I get that, but that doesn't make the ruling any less dumb
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sktgamer_13dude
05/23/18 2:22:28 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Twitter and the president in the same sentence, and the word judge in the sentence as well. What an awful time to be alive.

Think Im gonna fire up my Twitter and be a dick to a bunch of people until the right one blocks me.

Are you a government official making official government statements on your account? Oh wait you arent? Guess your plan failed before it started.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/23/18 2:22:49 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?


Of course not..they had no problem with obama blowing up kids and deporting kids.

But now...well thats all they care about


Aww, KrabKake has a bone to pikk with Barakk Obama :(
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 2:23:42 PM
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?


Firstly,
known2FAIL posted...
A federal district court judge on Wednesday ruled that President Trump can't block people from viewing his Twitter feed over their political views
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Secondly, I don't think Obama should block said person as long as he's president. If people are harassing you on Twitter, you can report their tweets as well.
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KingCrabCake
05/23/18 2:24:00 PM
#37:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?


Of course not..they had no problem with obama blowing up kids and deporting kids.

But now...well thats all they care about


Aww, KrabKake has a bone to pikk with Barakk Obama :(


Damn dude cant even spell. What a shame.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/23/18 2:24:53 PM
#38:


KingCrabCake posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...
Ok, let me ask you this: when Obama was president, would you have an issue with Obama blocking a user from his personal Twitter that just called him an n word every day?


Of course not..they had no problem with obama blowing up kids and deporting kids.

But now...well thats all they care about


Aww, KrabKake has a bone to pikk with Barakk Obama :(


Damn dude cant even spell. What a shame.


I know....I should probably take some spelling klasses since my vernakular is off
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Caution999
05/23/18 2:26:27 PM
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This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/23/18 2:27:26 PM
#40:


Caution999 posted...
This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?


Not blocking people is giving them a platform?
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JE19426
05/23/18 2:27:37 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?


Since never, that's why Trump can still put them on ignore.
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prince_leo
05/23/18 2:28:46 PM
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Caution999 posted...
Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?

he could block people if he didn't say that his personal twitter was full of official statements
this is on him. he could have just kept to the potus twitter and been fine with blocking people on his personal one, but y'know
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KingCrabCake
05/23/18 2:29:34 PM
#43:


Caution999 posted...
This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?


Its not that serious
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/23/18 2:29:38 PM
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Trump is trash but this is a fucking idiot ruling.
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JE19426
05/23/18 2:30:21 PM
#45:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Trump is trash but this is a fucking idiot ruling.


Why is it an idiot ruling? Should the President really be able to decide who gets to hear their official statements?
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sktgamer_13dude
05/23/18 2:33:46 PM
#46:


Caution999 posted...
This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?

Blocking peoples free speech as a government official in an official government capacity is a no-no.
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Caution999
05/23/18 2:35:06 PM
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He's not blocking their free speech. He's blocking them from leaving a comment under his tweet. That's definitely a stretch of the imagination, here.

This is like me complaining that I can't post on SBAllen's announcement board.
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known2FAIL
05/23/18 2:36:36 PM
#48:


Caution999 posted...
This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?


There he is. I've been waiting for you to respond caution
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Anteaterking
05/23/18 2:41:28 PM
#49:


Caution999 posted...
This is like me complaining that I can't post on SBAllen's announcement board.


Are you unable to post on SBAllen's announcement board because of your political views or is everyone equally unable to post on his board?

Is SBAllen the government?
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Giant_Aspirin
05/23/18 2:44:31 PM
#50:


Caution999 posted...
This is such a joke!

Completely unconstitutional! Since when does the President have to give every random nut on the internet a platform for their voice?


it was because he blocked them, meaning they cannot read his tweets. and since his tweets are official government publications, they need to be accessible to everyone. this is all covered in the article, by the way.
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