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Nuffinz0rz 05/27/18 2:32:41 AM #1: |
Curiosity question
Two people find each other attractive and they're both on board. Why should the government be allowed to tell them they can't have consensual sex? --- "We moderate based on personal opinion and our current emotional state." -Tyrasibion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoungMutual 05/27/18 2:34:36 AM #2: |
Dunno, I think potential offspring can come out weird.
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Ultima Dragon 05/27/18 2:35:15 AM #3: |
I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects.
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BillWardsPants 05/27/18 2:36:26 AM #4: |
Because its gross and degenerate.
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St0rmFury 05/27/18 2:36:44 AM #5: |
BillWardsPants posted...
Because its gross and degenerate. Says who, the bible? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 05/27/18 2:36:44 AM #6: |
Ultima Dragon posted...
I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects. Should people with genetic defects not be allowed to reproduce then also? --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 05/27/18 2:37:11 AM #7: |
Grooming potential
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gunplagirl 05/27/18 2:39:14 AM #8: |
YoungMutual posted...
Dunno, I think potential offspring can come out weird. Even in mice (who are generally far more reactive to things like mutations, cancer causing substances, etc. than humans), it takes like 5-6 successive generations of inbreeding to see any notable birth defects or genetic issues in offspring. Basically, the taboo is the only real reason it's still illegal between two consenting adults. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metro2 05/27/18 2:41:53 AM #9: |
Use 1) abortion or 2) protection
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Rob Cesternino 05/27/18 2:42:50 AM #10: |
Ultima Dragon posted...
I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects. So as long as they don't have children, its ok if they have sex? --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BillWardsPants 05/27/18 2:43:20 AM #11: |
St0rmFury posted...
BillWardsPants posted...Because its gross and degenerate. The Bible is pretty conflicted when it comes to matters of fucking your own relatives. --- As a wise man once said, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ajenla 05/27/18 2:44:47 AM #13: |
SpiralDrift posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects. I'm not Ultima Dragon, but I've thought about this a bit. But someone with a genetic defect that would prevent them from being a mostly autonomous member of society probably shouldn't be passing that gene around. It's reckless to do make another life that could never truly succeed on its own in the way that the average adult can. Also, to the OT, there's probably more instances where the child was groomed into that behavior then not. --- ItsJustOmari ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ultima Dragon 05/27/18 2:46:46 AM #14: |
To everyone quoting me, I really don't have a strong opinion on the issue one way or the other lol. I was just throwing that out there as maybe one of the reasons why.
Generally I think people should do what they want as long as it's not hurting anyone else. It's not really anyone's business what two consenting adults do. --- "It's Canada, their idea of rioting is a half-muttered swear word." - deathbeforelife ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 05/27/18 2:47:27 AM #15: |
All sorts of sexual "perversions" are becoming mainstream as people realize they're actually quite common.
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gunplagirl 05/27/18 2:48:34 AM #16: |
CloneTheHero posted...
lol is it just me or us millennials really bringing incest porn mainstream? im so embarrassed. Most of it's just acting But when it comes to some of those home-made/ amateur screenshot examples that just popped up when I looked it up on my preferred porn hosting site... Some look like they could be legit. >.> --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 05/27/18 2:52:32 AM #17: |
No reason, just bible thumping tradition, thousands of years ago incest was called wincest
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BillWardsPants 05/27/18 2:54:20 AM #18: |
SpiralDrift posted...
All sorts of sexual "perversions" are becoming mainstream as people realize they're actually quite common. I like how you put perversions in scare quotes. --- As a wise man once said, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 05/27/18 2:56:50 AM #19: |
Ajenla posted...
Also, to the OT, there's probably more instances where the child was groomed into that behavior then not. I'd hazard it's mostly this. People automatically go to force/coercion/etc. and ignore other possibilities. It's also one of those things that nobody wants their name attached to with regard to changing the laws for it, even if the laws should be changed. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 05/27/18 2:57:18 AM #20: |
gunplagirl posted...
YoungMutual posted...Dunno, I think potential offspring can come out weird. Actually no. Most negative genetic conditions are stored in recessive alleles. By procreating with your siblings you're just making your offspring more likely to inherit said conditions. But I mean, technically, for recreative purposes, there's nothing wrong with having sex with your siblings, aside from the social taboo. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagTartarus 05/27/18 2:58:10 AM #21: |
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with incest (just use birth control, assuming it's heterosexual), but in practice it raises serious issues of consent. For the same reason that it's difficult to say that an adult high school student can consent to to sex with their teacher, it's difficult to say that an adult who hasn't moved out of their parents house yet can consent to sex with their parents. If anti-incest laws were simply repealed without anything to replace them, then I think we'd see a lot more disgusting situations where people are pressured in to having sex with people they depend on in a platonic capacity.
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gunplagirl 05/27/18 2:59:29 AM #22: |
LordFarquad1312 posted...
gunplagirl posted...YoungMutual posted...Dunno, I think potential offspring can come out weird. Now that you mention it, they'd probably have only used healthy mice to begin with meaning no recessive genes. So you have a point... Though obviously this could delve into some issues with how people literally advocate to ban reproduction rights to anyone with disorders that can be passed down or predispose their offspring. Hmm. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blablablax17 05/27/18 3:10:09 AM #23: |
I've read that multiple generations of close relative in-breeding (as in the case of midieval royalty) can make a family line infirtle.
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LordFarquad1312 05/27/18 3:13:10 AM #24: |
gunplagirl posted...
Now that you mention it, they'd probably have only used healthy mice to begin with meaning no recessive genes. So you have a point... Though obviously this could delve into some issues with how people literally advocate to ban reproduction rights to anyone with disorders that can be passed down or predispose their offspring. Hmm. I think that's entirely dependent on the person. If you have a genetic condition and you choose to have kids with someone who also has the same condition, you are a peice of shit for giving birth and cursing a child with a life of sickness. Obviously, if your partner doesn't have the condition it doesn't necessarily mean they are not able to pass it down, but at least you're not 100% sure the child will be born with it. --- The force is my ally "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 05/27/18 3:15:14 AM #25: |
I do wonder, if they pretty much vow to never have a baby with each other, maybe adopt at best, just biologically speaking, who's to stop them? It's like kicking a hornet's nest at that point
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Lordgold666 05/27/18 3:21:24 AM #26: |
Nuffinz0rz posted...
Curiosity question Stop posting --- "May the Father of Understanding guide us" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 05/27/18 3:23:57 AM #27: |
The "problem" is if they develop serious feelings for each other it's only human to want to produce offspring together. So although they might go in with the intention of never having children, it could change over time.
But also, we're almost at a point where we could just fix any negative genetic issues through gene therapy anyway. So it won't be a valid argument against it for much longer. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 05/27/18 3:26:47 AM #28: |
Great, it's time for this topic again
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legendarylemur 05/27/18 3:28:30 AM #29: |
SpiralDrift posted...
The "problem" is if they develop serious feelings for each other it's only human to want to produce offspring together. So although they might go in with the intention of never having children, it could change over time. Certainly Japan and certain parts of America will rejoice if such an advancement was made. And Trump. And Hulk Hogan. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://imgur.com/JGJqvwW ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nuffinz0rz 05/27/18 10:05:28 PM #30: |
kinda hoped this would blow up more :(
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pikachupwnage 05/27/18 10:16:15 PM #31: |
For starters there is a power dynamic/consent and grooming issue.
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OEIO999 05/27/18 10:18:58 PM #32: |
CloneTheHero posted...
lol is it just me or us millennials really bringing incest porn mainstream? im so embarrassed. Blame game of thrones, no one cared until they brought it to light --- The truth behind star wars: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76044442/891290690 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 05/27/18 10:20:00 PM #33: |
Offspring isn't the issue. Gay incest is just as illegal.
The issue is people think it's icky for the most part. But anyway in most cases of incest it ends up sounding more like child abuse than some ridiculous fantasy about banging you hot sister. People say "what's wrong?" While thinking about the fantasy and not understanding the reality is that it's almost always child abuse in reality. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnimeTeddies 05/27/18 10:21:18 PM #34: |
CloneTheHero posted...
lol is it just me or us millennials really bringing incest porn mainstream? im so embarrassed. someone has never heard of taboo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 05/27/18 10:24:09 PM #35: |
I don't know. On one hand, I don't think consenting adults should be arrested for sex acts. On the other hand, I feel like bestiality would be the next issue on the chopping block if incest were universally legalized.
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ColdOne666 05/27/18 10:25:19 PM #36: |
SpiralDrift posted...
Ultima Dragon posted...I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects. No way anybody can answer that without the mods going on a ban frenzy. --- FFX is the best game of all time. The only good Nintendo franchises are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Comics are for kids. https://imgur.com/LJ3WSyB Reylo Ship ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 05/27/18 10:27:38 PM #37: |
Genetic defects are the minor reason but incest is illegal in near everywhere in the world because it affects the stability of the family.
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wdlp 05/27/18 10:28:04 PM #38: |
dude my mom is hot AF
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Kanaya413 05/27/18 10:31:28 PM #39: |
FortuneCookie posted...
I don't know. On one hand, I don't think consenting adults should be arrested for sex acts. On the other hand, I feel like bestiality would be the next issue on the chopping block if incest were universally legalized. Adult humans can consent but animals can not Huge difference --- Official Secretary of Kyogre's Cascade!!! FC: 5086-1980-2580 IGN: Vivi TSV 4077 Silent Chexmix: "Toxapex is Trump's wall in pixel form." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 05/27/18 10:47:50 PM #41: |
KINDERFELD posted...
Genetic defects are the minor reason but incest is illegal in near everywhere in the world because it affects the stability of the family. This is probably a better argument but it requires that the society actually values the family unit beyond just giving it lip service. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagTartarus 05/27/18 10:48:48 PM #42: |
Conflict posted...
SpiralDrift posted...Ultima Dragon posted...I guess because it's a healthcare liability if they produce offspring with genetic defects. Right, because the genes of incest babies often end up fucked up. We want to pass legislation to prevent them from having bad genes. It's not eugenics, it's just legislation for the sake of good genes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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inloveanddeath0 05/27/18 10:56:51 PM #43: |
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do_ob_tpkillr 05/27/18 11:00:43 PM #44: |
SpiralDrift posted...
All sorts of sexual "perversions" are becoming mainstream as people realize they're actually quite common. It's the loud minority. What they're really trying to do is falsely normalise depraved, disgusting behaviour. Covertly brainwashing the rest of the population with their warped world views. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 05/27/18 11:02:25 PM #45: |
Kanaya413 posted...
FortuneCookie posted...I don't know. On one hand, I don't think consenting adults should be arrested for sex acts. On the other hand, I feel like bestiality would be the next issue on the chopping block if incest were universally legalized. Actually, some animals can consent. Female horses are known to be huge sluts towards their riders. Don't ask why I know that --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 05/27/18 11:32:52 PM #46: |
protection for the potential offspring
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St0rmFury 05/27/18 11:46:36 PM #47: |
Turbam posted...
Actually, some animals can consent. Why do you know that? --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VTBM 05/28/18 12:13:47 AM #48: |
I can understand why straight incest can be illegal, but why is same-sex incest between two consenting adults illegal?
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Prestoff 05/28/18 12:20:00 AM #49: |
The only good argument I can see against consensual incest is the power differential in the relationship. Other than that, a lot of the arguments against incest can be applied to homosexual relationships other than eugenics, which I think is a bit of a weak argument to stand on.
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Turbam 05/28/18 5:32:06 AM #50: |
St0rmFury posted...
Turbam posted...Actually, some animals can consent. Someone posted it and I read it --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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