Current Events > Sakurai CONFIRMS: Smash is NOT a fighting game!

Topic List
Page List: 1
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 6:25:14 PM
#1:


... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe
06/12/18 6:25:51 PM
#2:


... Copied to Clipboard!
krazychao5
06/12/18 6:25:55 PM
#3:


... Copied to Clipboard!
#4
Post #4 was unavailable or deleted.
#5
Post #5 was unavailable or deleted.
Smashingpmkns
06/12/18 6:26:44 PM
#6:


Best fighting game ever tbh
---
Clean Butt Crew
... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM
06/12/18 6:28:08 PM
#7:


How is this news? Everyone already knew Smash Brothers is just a party game for children.
---
Do good.
Eat communists.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#8
Post #8 was unavailable or deleted.
#9
Post #9 was unavailable or deleted.
soulunison2
06/12/18 6:33:41 PM
#10:


Glad to see this has finally been confirmed
... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7
06/12/18 6:34:45 PM
#11:


Its too good to be a fighting game.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses
06/12/18 6:34:59 PM
#12:


Honestly don't give a shit what he says. I have my own eyes and thoughts.
---
There will always be exceptions.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos
06/12/18 6:45:54 PM
#13:


it's the same usual suspects that have this vendetta for smash and insist it's not a fighting game.
---
Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars"
AutumnEspirit: *kissu*
... Copied to Clipboard!
_BlueMonk
06/12/18 6:47:03 PM
#14:


just got the new God of War game. best fighting game.

im fighting all the monsters

fighting game confirmed
---
One in a Million, TWICE!
Dahyun <3 https://imgur.com/eF0cTqK
... Copied to Clipboard!
#15
Post #15 was unavailable or deleted.
HitTheGroundWal
06/12/18 6:49:29 PM
#16:


I've always thought it was weird that people argue party game vs fighting game.

whynotboth.jpg
---
It's supposed to be HitTheGroundWalking.
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
06/12/18 6:57:51 PM
#17:


Who gives a shit thooooo
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
https://imgur.com/JGJqvwW
... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 7:09:03 PM
#18:


Conflict posted...
It's pretty obviously a fighting game

Word of God disagrees
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings
06/12/18 7:24:45 PM
#19:


In Mario Kart, you race against other racers. Just because you can throw items and fly with gliders doesn't stop it from being a racing game. In Splatoon, you shoot other players with guns. Just because your gun shoots ink and the main objective is to paint the turf doesn't stop it from being a shooting game. In Smash, you fight against other fighters. Just because you can jump around on platforms and the win condition is to knock your opponents off the stage doesn't stop it from being a fighting game.

Just because a game doesn't play exactly like every other game in the genre doesn't mean it isn't a game of that genre. How is this so hard for people to comprehend?
---
"Someday I too will fly... and find you again!"
https://imgur.com/d6dK6V9
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai
06/12/18 7:25:37 PM
#20:


Why do you guys need it to be called a fighting game so goddamn badly? Jesus Christ. Like, seriously, what does it change? What does it mean?
---
WHO MODS THE MODERATORS?
... Copied to Clipboard!
#21
Post #21 was unavailable or deleted.
Calwings
06/12/18 7:29:24 PM
#22:


Kisai posted...
Why do you guys need it to be called a fighting game so goddamn badly? Jesus Christ. Like, seriously, what does it change? What does it mean?

Why do some people need it to NOT be called a fighting game so badly? The anti-Smash crowd is the side that provokes most of these arguments.
---
"Someday I too will fly... and find you again!"
https://imgur.com/QohSINK
... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos
06/12/18 7:29:55 PM
#23:


Calwings posted...
In Mario Kart, you race against other racers. Just because you can throw items and fly with gliders doesn't stop it from being a racing game. In Splatoon, you shoot other players with guns. Just because your gun shoots ink and the main objective is to paint the turf doesn't stop it from being a shooting game. In Smash, you fight against other fighters. Just because you can jump around on platforms and the win condition is to knock your opponents off the stage doesn't stop it from being a fighting game.

Just because a game doesn't play exactly like every other game in the genre doesn't mean it isn't a game of that genre. How is this so hard for people to comprehend?

This.

Binding of Isaac and Spelunky have Roguelike elements but each play extremely differently. Both are still Roguelikes.
---
Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars"
AutumnEspirit: *kissu*
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai
06/12/18 7:33:21 PM
#24:


Conflict posted...
You should actually be asking "why do you guys need it to not be called a fighting game so badly". Smash fans don't give a shit. It's anti-Smash fans are purely booty tickled at anything suggesting that it's a fighting game.

Calwings posted...
Why do some people need it to NOT be called a fighting game so badly? The anti-Smash crowd is the side that provokes most of these arguments.

Just because I don't think it needs to be called a fighting game means I'm not a fan?
---
WHO MODS THE MODERATORS?
... Copied to Clipboard!
UltraDeku
06/12/18 7:35:25 PM
#25:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
How is this news? Everyone already knew Smash Brothers is just a party game for children.

Last time I checked it was E for Everyone, good sir.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
#26
Post #26 was unavailable or deleted.
Paper_Okami
06/12/18 7:43:49 PM
#27:


He's right, it's actually fun
---
"Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman
"Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie
... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 7:44:23 PM
#28:


Conflict posted...
Kisai posted...
Conflict posted...
You should actually be asking "why do you guys need it to not be called a fighting game so badly". Smash fans don't give a shit. It's anti-Smash fans are purely booty tickled at anything suggesting that it's a fighting game.

Calwings posted...
Why do some people need it to NOT be called a fighting game so badly? The anti-Smash crowd is the side that provokes most of these arguments.

Just because I don't think it needs to be called a fighting game means I'm not a fan?


Then that question you just asked applies to you in different words. Why do you think it doesn't need to be called a fighting game so badly? What does it change?

in order for smash to be a "fighting game" you have to adhere by a ton of arbitrary rules that were not in the original vision of the game

street fighter, marvel, guilty gear, trash like mortal kombat, etc are designed from the ground up to be fighting games and focus solely on that and are balanced around that

smash isnt
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi
06/12/18 7:45:31 PM
#29:


Smash is a fighting game

It has all the actually relevant aspects that make it so, despite people picking it apart going after irrelevant shit like "oh well you have to go for ring-outs instead of KOs!"

It's a fighting game in a world of Street Fighter clones so obviously it sticks out as being different, and some people will think those differences are enough to put it in a different genre when in reality the fighting genre is just stale.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers
06/12/18 7:45:36 PM
#30:


lol appeal to authority

this isn't settling shit
---
THE FAM. My waifus Caulifla, Kale and Kefla from Dragon Ball Super and I drawn by da GOAT @MoistenedYouth: https://imgur.com/a/TYhlg
... Copied to Clipboard!
#31
Post #31 was unavailable or deleted.
krazychao5
06/12/18 7:49:15 PM
#32:


... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking
06/12/18 7:49:53 PM
#33:


I_Stay_Noided posted...
in order for smash to be a "fighting game" you have to adhere by a ton of arbitrary rules that were not in the original vision of the game

street fighter, marvel, guilty gear, trash like mortal kombat, etc are designed from the ground up to be fighting games and focus solely on that and are balanced around that

smash isnt


Why do people conflate "competitive fighter" and "fighting game"?

It's like saying Street Fighter wouldn't be a fighting game if characters randomly had heart attacks during the game from the stress of combat, because now someone could randomly win.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
06/12/18 7:54:25 PM
#34:


_BlueMonk posted...
just got the new God of War game. best fighting game.

im fighting all the monsters

fighting game confirmed

Does GoW even have a vs mode? In either case don't be obtuse. You're comparing oranges to apples when you should be comparing granny apples to golden crisp apples.
---
Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10
Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE
... Copied to Clipboard!
#35
Post #35 was unavailable or deleted.
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 8:00:31 PM
#36:


Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper
06/12/18 8:01:34 PM
#37:


pro smash players smell bad
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur
06/12/18 8:06:00 PM
#38:


Conflict posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
Kisai posted...
Conflict posted...
You should actually be asking "why do you guys need it to not be called a fighting game so badly". Smash fans don't give a shit. It's anti-Smash fans are purely booty tickled at anything suggesting that it's a fighting game.

Calwings posted...
Why do some people need it to NOT be called a fighting game so badly? The anti-Smash crowd is the side that provokes most of these arguments.

Just because I don't think it needs to be called a fighting game means I'm not a fan?


Then that question you just asked applies to you in different words. Why do you think it doesn't need to be called a fighting game so badly? What does it change?

in order for smash to be a "fighting game" you have to adhere by a ton of arbitrary rules that were not in the original vision of the game

street fighter, marvel, guilty gear, trash like mortal kombat, etc are designed from the ground up to be fighting games and focus solely on that and are balanced around that

smash isnt


Arbitrary rules? It's a game strictly based on fighting and knocking your opponent off the screen. Again, this goes back to what I said several posts ago; traditional fighting games are not the only types of 'fighting games'.

I agree. Why does a fighting game have to have an HP bar you have to knock off to win? It's not like you can KO in Smash at less than 60-70% with consistency anyways. In fact the advantage over not having an HP bar is that characters who have weak finishers are punished in favor of being able to rack up damage, allowing for a wider variety of play style. But in the end, there are grabs, punishes, true combos, blocks/dodges, a wide moveset with AA potential or not

I mean I hear this weird urgency to not call Smash a fighting game, but at the end of the day, even if they say they have a point somewhere, the distinction is not at all valuable, and they're gonna take up a great portion of any fighting game scenes on top of having a scene of their own
---
"Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo
https://imgur.com/JGJqvwW
... Copied to Clipboard!
KCJ5062
06/12/18 8:06:46 PM
#39:


UltraDeku posted...
Last time I checked it was E for Everyone, good sir.


Apparently not according to the typical "edgy" teenager/early 20 something.
---
It's amazing how people hang around message boards of games they don't like
... Copied to Clipboard!
#40
Post #40 was unavailable or deleted.
voldothegr8
06/12/18 8:25:43 PM
#41:


I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.
---
Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10
Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE
... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome
06/12/18 8:28:10 PM
#42:


Conflict posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence


The FGC isn't the authority on what games are and aren't fighting games lol c'mon man


Are you trolling?
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
#43
Post #43 was unavailable or deleted.
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 8:32:42 PM
#44:


voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.

smash literally paid mr mcrib to be at EVO

this isnt some fake news thing, it actually happened
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
06/12/18 8:36:07 PM
#45:


I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.

smash literally paid mr mcrib to be at EVO

this isnt some fake news thing, it actually happened

They raised charity to get in. And the crowds are just as big and go just as nuts as other finals.
---
Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10
Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE
... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 8:36:54 PM
#46:


voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.

smash literally paid mr mcrib to be at EVO

this isnt some fake news thing, it actually happened

They raised charity to get in.

right, it couldnt make it in on its own merit as a game, ergo it does not belong
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
andel
06/12/18 8:38:15 PM
#47:


how is it not a fighting game? that is the entire purpose of the games wtf
---
I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
06/12/18 8:44:16 PM
#48:


I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.

smash literally paid mr mcrib to be at EVO

this isnt some fake news thing, it actually happened

They raised charity to get in.

right, it couldnt make it in on its own merit as a game, ergo it does not belong

Didn't last year 2 Smash games got in but no Marvel?
---
Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Oakland Raiders: 6-10
Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE
... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Stay_Noided
06/12/18 8:44:57 PM
#49:


voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I_Stay_Noided posted...
Conflict posted...
The problem is you guys are the ones literally gatekeeping a genre and applying 'arbitrary rules' to suggest this game that you personally don't like isn't part of said genre

the FGC doesnt want smash
smash doesnt want to be in the FGC either

so why should it be treated as such?

there is tons of documented history on how smash is shitting up EVO with its presence

If the FGC didn't want it or vice versa it wouldn't be at EVO to begin with. And your "documented history" was probably documented by butthurt Cuckcom fanboys.

smash literally paid mr mcrib to be at EVO

this isnt some fake news thing, it actually happened

They raised charity to get in.

right, it couldnt make it in on its own merit as a game, ergo it does not belong

Didn't last year 2 Smash games got in but no Marvel?

no marvel was this year and it was a fucking terrible game that shouldnt be at evo

just like smash
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz
06/12/18 8:46:43 PM
#50:


some of you guys have been having this argument on gamefaqs for the better part of a decade
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1