Current Events > New research shows a vast majority of cis people won't date trans people

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hockeybub89 posted...

Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

oh man, would love to contribute but Im sure Ill get modded. all Ill say is

frozenshock posted...

I have nothing against transwomen.

But I want to be a father.

I can't have that with a trans.

"I have nothing against transwomen, but I would be unable to share my opinion without being offensive"

Ok, bro

more so the fact I dont want to hook up with someone that used to be a dude
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It's funny how you can shit on incels all day for feeling entitled to sex but trans-people for the same entitlement it's omg you're a monster!
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

It's funny how you can shit on incels all day for feeling entitled to sex but trans-people for the same entitlement it's omg you're a monster!

welcome to human hypocrisy

gunplagirl posted...

K181 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

K181 posted...

Person: Respect sexual and gender diversity!
Same Person: Only being sexually interested in cisgendered people is bad!

Respect cisheterosexuality and cishomosexuality, TC.

You literally made up words at the end

So your point is negated if I just made them two word phrases?

Good job?

I mean, you're trying to defend your transphobic views but you're coopting gender diversity terms and don't see how that's unnecessary when you're just being discriminatory, I don't know what to tell you

It's transphobic to not be sexually attracted to transgendered people in your opinion?

Okay.
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gunplagirl posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

Sayoria posted...

That's fine. Weeds out the assholes. I want a real man, not some asshole like that.

All I want is a real woman.

Which trans women are

Unless she's like, a hologram.

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Zikten posted...

by that logic, straight people and gay people are both bigots cause they will only date other people like them.

This is like comparing racial preferences to orientation. It's disingenuous as fuck. One is a choice and the other isn't.
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The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.
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I would. Just saying.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Zikten posted...

by that logic, straight people and gay people are both bigots cause they will only date other people like them.

This is like comparing racial preferences to orientation. It's disingenuous as fuck. One is a choice and the other isn't.

This isn't true

I have nothing against transwomen.

But I want to be a father.

I can't have that with a trans.

Sure you can. It's called adoption. You can be a father even without blood relation.

Duncanwii posted...

I would. Just saying.

oh, we all know

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
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MrMimeTime posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Not really, just perfectly clear logic lol.
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LockeMonster posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The population of trans people globally is at the same level as the number of natural redheads in the world.

Do you have a source for this?

1%+ of the global population has gender dysphoria
1-2% of the global population has naturally red hair

You'd have to find a source for each but they're pretty documented by this point.
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Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Weezy_Tha_Don posted...

oh man, would love to contribute but Im sure Ill get modded. all Ill say is

frozenshock posted...

I have nothing against transwomen.

But I want to be a father.

I can't have that with a trans.

"I have nothing against transwomen, but I would be unable to share my opinion without being offensive"

Ok, bro

more so the fact I dont want to hook up with someone that used to be a dude

And saying that isn't moddable, so why not just say it? Why do the "I'd get modded for sharing my honest opinion" nonsense if you have no problem beyond not wanting to sex them?
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Given the vast majority of people prefer cis partners, all the more reason why transgender people should disclose that fact given it is a material deal breaker. Besides who would want their time wasted.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Zikten posted...

by that logic, straight people and gay people are both bigots cause they will only date other people like them.

This is like comparing racial preferences to orientation. It's disingenuous as fuck. One is a choice and the other isn't.

Are you suggesting being gay is a choice?
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hockeybub89 posted...

Zikten posted...

by that logic, straight people and gay people are both bigots cause they will only date other people like them.

This is like comparing racial preferences to orientation. It's disingenuous as fuck. One is a choice and the other isn't.

Men not being attracted to trans women isn't anymore a choice than gay men not being attracted to women.
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COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

Again... we're at the point where people are rightfully arguing for respect for sexual preferences and gender identies, and yet the notion that there could be a sexual preference for cisgendered men or women is a no go?
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Fluttershy462 posted...

Theres a good reason for this.

DifferentialEquation posted...

People are allowed to have preferences. There's no problem with this.

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COVxy posted...

MrMimeTime posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Not really, just perfectly clear logic lol.

Covxy is right, you know. The only reason you'd consider it gay for a man to date a trans woman is if you don't consider a trans woman to be anything more than a man. Which is blatantly false.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

hockeybub89 posted...

Zikten posted...

by that logic, straight people and gay people are both bigots cause they will only date other people like them.

This is like comparing racial preferences to orientation. It's disingenuous as fuck. One is a choice and the other isn't.

This isn't true

Are you saying not liking a race is biologically ingrained? Are your preferred movie tastes in a woman hardwired too?
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gunplagirl posted...

UltraDeku posted...

gunplagirl posted...

UltraDeku posted...

Usually you ignore talking about the very very small minority of people who are affected by rare cases.

The population of trans people globally is at the same level as the number of natural redheads in the world.

But do go on about how you're somehow right for a scientific concept that you're applying as a 100% of all cases fact, while ignoring any degree of nuance.

It's like, if we suddenly discovered an exception to the law of universal gravitation, we would start to seek a way to address that, either by acknowledging the exceptions and adding to the law, or by finding a way to adjust the equation so it can also be calculated.

I was mostly talking about intersex people >__>

Okay, and trans people still present a population large enough to rival redheads. Trying to brush all of us under the rug because we're not a large population is intellectually dishonest and scientifically invalidates your claim to any sort of 100% accuracy.

I never said you should always ignore the minority of people. The only time its ok to ignore them is when you're learning the basics (Which was similar to what you said to Kaiganeer about middle school textbooks so I guess I'm being redundant >__>)
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gunplagirl posted...

LockeMonster posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The population of trans people globally is at the same level as the number of natural redheads in the world.

Do you have a source for this?

1%+ of the global population has gender dysphoria
1-2% of the global population has naturally red hair

You'd have to find a source for each but they're pretty documented by this point.

Trans is like 0.3% and red hair is basically just a white thing so there's zero chance of it occurring in the majority of the population. Also, what is the point of that stat?
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Offworlder1 posted...

Fluttershy462 posted...

Theres a good reason for this.

DifferentialEquation posted...

People are allowed to have preferences. There's no problem with this.

If your preference is based on false assumptions like that trans women are men or that all black people are lazy then the reason for your preference is blatantly false and offensive.
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K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

Again... we're at the point where people are rightfully arguing for respect for sexual preferences and gender identies, and yet the notion that there could be a sexual preference for cisgendered men or women is a no go?

I mean, that doesn't make much sense. It's like saying I'm sapiosexual or whatever those made up orientations are. If you're in the realm of making up biologically implausible sexual orientations to justify your own lack of acceptance, you've made a wrong turn. At least simply admit that you don't see them as truly their identified gender and the thought of them as their pretransition state freaks you out.
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gunplagirl posted...

1%+ of the global population has gender dysphoria
1-2% of the global population has naturally red hair

You'd have to find a source for each but they're pretty documented by this point.

That's the thing. When I tried to look it up, it was 0.6% vs 2%+ for redheads. That's 3 times more redheads. Not the "trans people globally is at the same level as the number of redheads". 3x is not the same level.
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I will never understand the "real woman" argument. It's like a false catch-22, trying to get the people to go along with that narrative at the risk of otherwise being "offensive." At the end of the the day, a transwoman is a transwoman. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but the vast majority of people will not see them as a dating partner. I will gladly refer to them as female, but there is no circumstance where I would ever see a transwoman as a dating partner.

UltraDeku posted...

gunplagirl posted...

UltraDeku posted...

gunplagirl posted...

UltraDeku posted...

Usually you ignore talking about the very very small minority of people who are affected by rare cases.

The population of trans people globally is at the same level as the number of natural redheads in the world.

But do go on about how you're somehow right for a scientific concept that you're applying as a 100% of all cases fact, while ignoring any degree of nuance.

It's like, if we suddenly discovered an exception to the law of universal gravitation, we would start to seek a way to address that, either by acknowledging the exceptions and adding to the law, or by finding a way to adjust the equation so it can also be calculated.

I was mostly talking about intersex people >__>

Okay, and trans people still present a population large enough to rival redheads. Trying to brush all of us under the rug because we're not a large population is intellectually dishonest and scientifically invalidates your claim to any sort of 100% accuracy.

I never said you should always ignore the minority of people. The only time its ok to ignore them is when you're learning the basics (Which was similar to what you said to Kaiganeer about middle school textbooks so I guess I'm being redundant >__>)

I told them to read something beyond a middle school level, as they're using a middle school level understanding as their basis for all people.
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Whats wrong with preferences?
Especially when a man would like to date a woman capable of bearing his offspring?
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LockeMonster posted...

gunplagirl posted...

1%+ of the global population has gender dysphoria
1-2% of the global population has naturally red hair

You'd have to find a source for each but they're pretty documented by this point.

That's the thing. When I tried to look it up, it was 0.6% vs 2%+ for redheads. That's 3 times more redheads. Not the "trans people globally is at the same level as the number of redheads". 3x is not the same level.

Sources? And have you read any of the articles on how trans numbers are underreported?
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Most dudes wont date a transwoman, but most would suck their dick in private. They are the true fetishists.

I guarantee 99% of the straight dudes on this board arent kicking Jane Marie or Bailey Jay out of bed if they took them home from a club.

Audrina (Jane Marie when was in porn): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=856201414548685&set=a.108801425955358.18546.100004765032325&type=3
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As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.
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hockeybub89 posted...

justaguy3492 posted...

This also seems to have an incel tone to it. The idea that anyone is owed sex or a relationship is outrageous.

Is calling people out for saying they won't date "black people" saying that black people are owed sex?

I don't see sexual preference and race as the same. I do get the point you're trying to make though.
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COVxy posted...

K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

Again... we're at the point where people are rightfully arguing for respect for sexual preferences and gender identies, and yet the notion that there could be a sexual preference for cisgendered men or women is a no go?

I mean, that doesn't make much sense. It's like saying I'm sapiosexual or whatever those made up orientations are. If you're in the realm of making up biologically implausible sexual orientations to justify your own lack of acceptance, you've made a wrong turn. At least simply admit that you don't see them as truly their identified gender and the thought of them as their pretransition state freaks you out.

Yeah, you're just looking for things to be upset at this point if your rational is that it's "biologically implausible" to have a sexual orientation more exclusionary than your own or inventing states of mind for people that have them. You're attracted to trans and cis people? Good for you. You think that there's zero possible reason that someone could be only attracted to cis people? Quit being so close minded.

I can safely say that there isn't a cisgendered guy that I'm attracted me. Does that make me a homophobe? If yes, that's a dumb take. If no, how's that different if you changed "cis" with "trans?" And I don't view either as disgusting.
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Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.
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Conception616 posted...

Most dudes wont date a transwoman, but most would suck their dick in private. They are the true fetishists.

I guarantee 99% of the straight dudes on this board arent kicking Jane Marie or Bailey Jay out of bed if they took them home from a club.

Just fucking wonderful, now I have to make a poll about that >:(
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gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.
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K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

Again... we're at the point where people are rightfully arguing for respect for sexual preferences and gender identies, and yet the notion that there could be a sexual preference for cisgendered men or women is a no go?

I mean, that doesn't make much sense. It's like saying I'm sapiosexual or whatever those made up orientations are. If you're in the realm of making up biologically implausible sexual orientations to justify your own lack of acceptance, you've made a wrong turn. At least simply admit that you don't see them as truly their identified gender and the thought of them as their pretransition state freaks you out.

Yeah, you're just looking for things to be upset at this point if your rational is that it's "biologically implausible" to have a sexual orientation more exclusionary than your own or inventing states of mind for people that have them. You're attracted to trans and cis people? Good for you. You think that there's zero possible reason that someone could be only attracted to cis people? Quit being so close minded.

I can safely say that there isn't a cisgendered guy that attacts me. Does that make me a homophobe? If yes, that's a dumb take. If no, how's that different if you changed "cis" with "trans?"

If you're straight then you aren't into men. If you are straight you're into women. Trans women are women. If you exclude all trans women from your dating pool it's because you don't consider them women. That's the difference.
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Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.

I'm actually queen of three galaxies, and *makes stupid claim* and that's why I'm right.
I'm being sarcastic and mocking you because you aren't a bioengineer.
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gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.

I'm actually queen of three galaxies, and *makes stupid claim* and that's why I'm right.
I'm being sarcastic and mocking you because you aren't a bioengineer.

No I 100% am. However, nothing youve said in this topic has been even remotely true.
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Metro2 posted...

Sure you can. It's called adoption. You can be a father even without blood relation.

You can. But is it really fair to expect people to give up having their own flesh and blood and pretend that it's the same?
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gunplagirl posted...

K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

K181 posted...

COVxy posted...

The inference to be made here if you say "I 100% would never date a transperson because I'm heterosexual" is that you still don't view them as their transitioned gender. Pretty clear how that's transphobic.

Again... we're at the point where people are rightfully arguing for respect for sexual preferences and gender identies, and yet the notion that there could be a sexual preference for cisgendered men or women is a no go?

I mean, that doesn't make much sense. It's like saying I'm sapiosexual or whatever those made up orientations are. If you're in the realm of making up biologically implausible sexual orientations to justify your own lack of acceptance, you've made a wrong turn. At least simply admit that you don't see them as truly their identified gender and the thought of them as their pretransition state freaks you out.

Yeah, you're just looking for things to be upset at this point if your rational is that it's "biologically implausible" to have a sexual orientation more exclusionary than your own or inventing states of mind for people that have them. You're attracted to trans and cis people? Good for you. You think that there's zero possible reason that someone could be only attracted to cis people? Quit being so close minded.

I can safely say that there isn't a cisgendered guy that attacts me. Does that make me a homophobe? If yes, that's a dumb take. If no, how's that different if you changed "cis" with "trans?"

If you're straight then you aren't into men. If you are straight you're into women. Trans women are women. If you exclude all trans women from your dating pool it's because you don't consider them women. That's the difference.

It's like you're trying to change reality. Transwomen are biological males living as women, either with or without cosmetic surgery. I will gladly say they they are female and call them women, as that is polite, but that does not change the fact that they are not "real women." There is nothing offensive at all about that.

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

As a biomedical engineer you are not nearly qualified to make such definitive claims. Especially under such ambiguous category labels.
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Id be uncomfortable
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Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.

I'm actually queen of three galaxies, and *makes stupid claim* and that's why I'm right.
I'm being sarcastic and mocking you because you aren't a bioengineer.

No I 100% am. However, nothing youve said in this topic has been even remotely true.

FedEx has a bioengineer field now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76735858
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Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.

I'm actually queen of three galaxies, and *makes stupid claim* and that's why I'm right.
I'm being sarcastic and mocking you because you aren't a bioengineer.

No I 100% am. However, nothing youve said in this topic has been even remotely true.

100% am, but can't verify that and it can't be looked up as we don't know your name or company you work for and therefore can't verify your claim by any means.

I'm highly suspicious.

Further checking says you have 10 karma and 98 posts. Meaning you're a shit posting alt for somebody who is presently warned.
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Conception616 posted...

Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Russman posted...

As a biomedical engineer, I can say with certainty that mtfs are not real women (on the basis of actual science). This shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, but those who claim they are, are lying to push an identity politics narrative.

Prove it. Post your diploma and a copy of your pay stub.

Nah Im not gonna. Just like you dont cite any of the made up facts you state.

I'm actually queen of three galaxies, and *makes stupid claim* and that's why I'm right.
I'm being sarcastic and mocking you because you aren't a bioengineer.

No I 100% am. However, nothing youve said in this topic has been even remotely true.

FedEx has a bioengineer field now?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76735858

Fucking scorched
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