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Prestoff
07/11/18 3:12:52 PM
#353:


TC sounds like a contrarian, going even beyond UR.
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 3:12:57 PM
#354:


Not all companies treat their communities the same. A.net has long taken great pains to foster a community between themselves and their players. At their company doing what she did is a huge deal so in her situation yes it was grounds for firing.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 3:17:35 PM
#355:


FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension

Again, how is that at all relevant? Deroir wasn't critical of her work. He's PRAISED her work in the game numerous times. How is him asking one question worthy of her vitriol?
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:18:44 PM
#356:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist


examples?


What a hypocrite. People have argued far less flagrant things and you labeled them alt-right / white supremacists. Don't like the taste of your own brew brother?


all you have to do is list positions I've advocated that would suggest I'm a black supremacist. I'm genuinely curious as to what opinions you believe I hold
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 3:19:52 PM
#357:


FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist


examples?


What a hypocrite. People have argued far less flagrant things and you labeled them alt-right / white supremacists. Don't like the taste of your own brew brother?

all you have to do is list positions I've advocated that would suggest I'm a black supremacist. I'm genuinely curious as to what opinions you believe I hold

Agreeing with BLM that all white people should give their houses to black people for free.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:23:03 PM
#358:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension

Again, how is that at all relevant? Deroir wasn't critical of her work. He's PRAISED her work in the game numerous times. How is him asking one question worthy of her vitriol?


Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.

*Gives an example of one of most prominent names one of the most prominent networks on TV doing just that*

"THATS NOT RELEVANT"

lmfao...c'mon, man
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:24:05 PM
#359:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
GregShmedley posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension


Why do you dislike white folks so much?


he's a black supremacist


examples?


What a hypocrite. People have argued far less flagrant things and you labeled them alt-right / white supremacists. Don't like the taste of your own brew brother?

all you have to do is list positions I've advocated that would suggest I'm a black supremacist. I'm genuinely curious as to what opinions you believe I hold

Agreeing with BLM that all white people should give their houses to black people for free.


Bro...if you're gonna make up a position I hold, choose one less ridiculous lmfao

These are my detractors, folks. THESE ARE YOUR KINGS
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 3:37:34 PM
#361:


FrisbeeDude posted...
These are my detractors, folks. THESE ARE YOUR KINGS

I never said you're a black supremacist.

Why are you painting everyone who disagrees with your nonsense as idiots like that dwimmerlaik?
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:47:01 PM
#362:


Conflict posted...
Okay so ESPN doesn't care about someone mocking someone's twitter picture

I'm not seeing how this is suddenly a defense, you're comparing the conduct of some high profile guy on the biggest sports television network to the conduct of a not-as-high profile person in a gaming company

Not every company operates the same and naturally some are bound to get away with more than others


yeah, and this company let an experienced developer go because gamerbros were upset. some companies stand by their employees more than others.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 3:48:04 PM
#363:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
hell, dan le batard (the biggest personality not named Stephen A Smith at ESPN) Literally responds to ANY criticism of his show on Twitter by showing a blown up picture of the tweeters avatar(usually revealing someone very white). He just signed a 4 year extension

Again, how is that at all relevant? Deroir wasn't critical of her work. He's PRAISED her work in the game numerous times. How is him asking one question worthy of her vitriol?


Name a company that would allow a person to verbally assault their own customers.

*Gives an example of one of most prominent names one of the most prominent networks on TV doing just that*

"THATS NOT RELEVANT"

lmfao...c'mon, man

You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:50:51 PM
#364:


You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.

1. I quoted you verbatim. That ain't what you asked for

2. Is there a quote of Price saying every person who purchases their product is bad?
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 3:50:52 PM
#365:


Vyrulisse posted...
Not all companies treat their communities the same. A.net has long taken great pains to foster a community between themselves and their players. At their company doing what she did is a huge deal so in her situation yes it was grounds for firing.


Frisbee keeps asking for clarification yet he ignores when it's given so I quote it one time hoping it sinks in.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:54:06 PM
#366:


Vyrulisse posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Not all companies treat their communities the same. A.net has long taken great pains to foster a community between themselves and their players. At their company doing what she did is a huge deal so in her situation yes it was grounds for firing.


Frisbee keeps asking for clarification yet he ignores when it's given so I quote it one time hoping it sinks in.


you have several developers/companies in this industry saying she got a raw deal. the gaming community isnt this hyper unique ecosystem where those who create have to be super sensitive to their fan bases. this company caved to people I believe they shouldn't of caved to
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UnfairRepresent
07/11/18 3:54:48 PM
#367:


Prestoff posted...
TC sounds like a contrarian, going even beyond UR.

wut

I haven't even posted in this topic
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 3:56:40 PM
#368:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Not all companies treat their communities the same. A.net has long taken great pains to foster a community between themselves and their players. At their company doing what she did is a huge deal so in her situation yes it was grounds for firing.


Frisbee keeps asking for clarification yet he ignores when it's given so I quote it one time hoping it sinks in.


you have several developers/companies in this industry saying she got a raw deal. the gaming community isnt this hyper unique ecosystem where those who create have to be super sensitive to their fan bases. this company caved to people I believe they shouldn't of caved to


Who cares what people say outside the situation for brownie points and to wave their good boy flags? Literally no one at Anet or the fanbase for the game which is strongly behind this.

Also where are all these companies and developers now... I've yet to hear her get hired on at another gaming company...
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 3:59:48 PM
#369:


Who cares what people say outside the situation for brownie points and to wave their good boy flags? Literally no one at Anet or the fanbase for the game which is strongly behind this.

brownie points...good boy flags

It's like...I'm not arguing with yall. This company in particular capitulated to a vocal group of gamerbros. I'm just saying she didnt violate some industry code regarding fan interaction. this particular company simply folded
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 4:00:49 PM
#370:


The company capitulated to their own culture that they've built since their inception. I've been there since they started with them so I think I know better than you and the rest of your professionally and perpetually outraged ilk.
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KainFourteh
07/11/18 4:02:05 PM
#371:


Still claiming developers/companies are defending her, the delusion is real.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:04:15 PM
#372:


Vyrulisse posted...
The company capitulated to their own culture that they've built since their inception. I've been there since they started with them so I think I know better than you and the rest of your professionally and perpetually outraged ilk.


The way that "culture" has behaved over this has exposed its toxic nature. All that results from this is dissuading talented people who dont believe in your standard of ethics from wanting to work with you (this is obviously having blowback, with price and others steering talent away from them if possible)
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 4:05:57 PM
#373:


FrisbeeDude posted...
This company in particular capitulated to a vocal group of gamerbros.

You still havent provided a single piece of evidence that this is true.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:06:54 PM
#374:


NibeIungsnarf posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
This company in particular capitulated to a vocal group of gamerbros.

You still havent provided a single piece of evidence that this is true.


the post I quoted from a self proclaimed member of the community just before this suggests otherwise
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Funkydog
07/11/18 4:07:07 PM
#375:


How the fuck are people STILL giving frisbee the responses he wants?

You're all as bad as him at this point tbh.
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 4:07:37 PM
#376:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
The company capitulated to their own culture that they've built since their inception. I've been there since they started with them so I think I know better than you and the rest of your professionally and perpetually outraged ilk.


The way that "culture" has behaved over this has exposed its toxic nature. All that results from this is dissuading talented people who dont believe in your standard of ethics from wanting to work with you (this is obviously having blowback, with price and others steering talent away from them if possible)

Price isn't talented though. A.net has plenty of actually talented people still there that are business as usual with the community. For some reason many of the Females that interact with our community don't seem to get verbally assaulted by our hive of sexism. Really makes you thonk that ladies like Rubi and Gaile often have positive and fun interactions with our evil community.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 4:09:04 PM
#377:


FrisbeeDude posted...
the post I quoted from a self proclaimed member of the community just before this suggests otherwise

Well people are accusing you of being a black supremacist so obviously its true.

(seriously though, no clue what you're talking about).
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:11:32 PM
#378:


now the rub is they hired an obviously untalented developer...nice
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 4:13:43 PM
#379:


FrisbeeDude posted...
now the rub is they hired an obviously untalented developer...nice

1. She wasn't a developer.
2. The stories in her time there have been kinda lousy as it is. This was a growing opinion before she shat herself into the limelight.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 4:33:08 PM
#380:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
The company capitulated to their own culture that they've built since their inception. I've been there since they started with them so I think I know better than you and the rest of your professionally and perpetually outraged ilk.


The way that "culture" has behaved over this has exposed its toxic nature. All that results from this is dissuading talented people who dont believe in your standard of ethics from wanting to work with you (this is obviously having blowback, with price and others steering talent away from them if possible)

Yeah, it's SO TOXIC that people don't like a mysandrist attacking the community for no reason whatsoever.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 4:34:20 PM
#381:


FrisbeeDude posted...
You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.

1. I quoted you verbatim. That ain't what you asked for

2. Is there a quote of Price saying every person who purchases their product is bad?

Yes - she literally said 'I don't have to pretend to like you here.'
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VectorChaos
07/11/18 4:37:14 PM
#382:


Exclusive image of Frisbee right now

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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:43:44 PM
#383:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.

1. I quoted you verbatim. That ain't what you asked for

2. Is there a quote of Price saying every person who purchases their product is bad?

Yes - she literally said 'I don't have to pretend to like you here.'


"I dont have to pretend I like you here" =/= "everyone who purchases our product is bad"
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:45:08 PM
#384:


Vyrulisse posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
now the rub is they hired an obviously untalented developer...nice

1. She wasn't a developer.
2. The stories in her time there have been kinda lousy as it is. This was a growing opinion before she shat herself into the limelight.


My apologies. what was her role in the company? you seem to have some inside info. any links to anything suggesting she wasnt fairing well in her time there?
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 4:45:49 PM
#385:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
now the rub is they hired an obviously untalented developer...nice

1. She wasn't a developer.
2. The stories in her time there have been kinda lousy as it is. This was a growing opinion before she shat herself into the limelight.


My apologies. what was her role in the company? you seem to have some inside info. any links to anything suggesting she wasnt fairing well in her time there?

She was a writer.
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 4:46:13 PM
#386:


FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.

1. I quoted you verbatim. That ain't what you asked for

2. Is there a quote of Price saying every person who purchases their product is bad?

Yes - she literally said 'I don't have to pretend to like you here.'


"I dont have to pretend I like you here" =/= "everyone who purchases our product is bad"

Actually, it is.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:47:14 PM
#387:


darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
You have yet to link a SINGLE example of anyone for any of the companies you listed saying EVERY PERSON WHO PURCHASES THEIR PRODUCT IS BAD.

1. I quoted you verbatim. That ain't what you asked for

2. Is there a quote of Price saying every person who purchases their product is bad?

Yes - she literally said 'I don't have to pretend to like you here.'


"I dont have to pretend I like you here" =/= "everyone who purchases our product is bad"

Actually, it is.


lmfao ok buddy
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 4:52:01 PM
#388:


because women who dont talk to players with sufficient amounts of fealty make for tempting targets.

Zoe Quinn, Alexander Leigh, Brianna Wu, Anita Sakeesian...looking at who gamergate and those who support it consider to be its biggest enemies, how can this be denied?
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Vyrulisse
07/11/18 4:53:13 PM
#389:


FrisbeeDude posted...
because women who dont talk to players with sufficient amounts of fealty make for tempting targets.

Zoe Quinn, Alexander Leigh, Brianna Wu, Anita Sakeesian...looking at who gamergate and those who support it consider to be its biggest enemies, how can this be denied?

Again Rubi and Gaile in particular don't grovel with the players but they are adults and get respect from the community, something Price isn't.
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NibeIungsnarf
07/11/18 4:54:13 PM
#390:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Zoe Quinn, Alexander Leigh, Brianna Wu, Anita Sakeesian...looking at who gamergate and those who support it consider to be its biggest enemies

Doesn't gamergate refer to Brianna Wu as Literally Wu to signify she's a complete nobody who constantly tries to insert herself?

Hardly fair to label her their enemy .
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darkjedilink
07/11/18 4:58:39 PM
#391:


FrisbeeDude posted...
because women who dont talk to players with sufficient amounts of fealty make for tempting targets.

Zoe Quinn, Alexander Leigh, Brianna Wu, Anita Sakeesian...looking at who gamergate and those who support it consider to be its biggest enemies, how can this be denied?

Wait - are you defending Sarkeesian and Wu? Two people who've literally lied about their experiences and swindled money as part of such?
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Cookie Bag
07/11/18 5:50:05 PM
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Rimmer_Dall
07/11/18 10:09:00 PM
#393:


Funkydog posted...
How the fuck are people STILL giving frisbee the responses he wants?

You're all as bad as him at this point tbh.

Because it's funny. He's going so nuts about this and bringing the situation so much attention he's redpilling people.
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FrisbeeDude
07/11/18 10:51:26 PM
#394:


Rimmer_Dall posted...
Funkydog posted...
How the fuck are people STILL giving frisbee the responses he wants?

You're all as bad as him at this point tbh.

Because it's funny. He's going so nuts about this and bringing the situation so much attention he's redpilling people.


bruh...IM the one going nuts? lmao jesus christ
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shnangyboos
07/11/18 11:00:45 PM
#395:


Imagine if she had been black.
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DarthAragorn
07/11/18 11:10:53 PM
#396:


shnangyboos posted...
Imagine if she had been black.

Frisbeedoof would be foaming at the mouth
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Dragonblade01
07/11/18 11:41:44 PM
#397:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
Funkydog posted...
How the fuck are people STILL giving frisbee the responses he wants?

You're all as bad as him at this point tbh.

Because it's funny. He's going so nuts about this and bringing the situation so much attention he's redpilling people.


bruh...IM the one going nuts? lmao jesus christ

Yeah, he's not going nuts.

Already was.
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darkjedilink
07/12/18 8:26:43 AM
#398:


shnangyboos posted...
Imagine if she had been black.

Better yet, imagine if Deroir was black - he'd chalk this all up to 'black people are second-class citizens' or some bullshit.
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Error1355
07/12/18 8:34:17 AM
#399:


I didn't read the majority of the arguments in this thread, but here is my view on it.

She clearly snapped back in a way that was not good for the public face of the company. I think it was poor of ArenaNet to not have their policy for social media use down as it seems both people fired were not on any shit list, wasn't given any written warnings or anything like that, was just flat out fired over it without any warning/directions from management to correct it.
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darkjedilink
07/12/18 8:37:01 AM
#400:


Error1355 posted...
I didn't read the majority of the arguments in this thread, but here is my view on it.

She clearly snapped back in a way that was not good for the public face of the company. I think it was poor of ArenaNet to not have their policy for social media use down as it seems both people fired were not on any shit list, wasn't given any written warnings or anything like that, was just flat out fired over it without any warning/directions from management to correct it.

They don't need to, though. It's not rocket science to suggest that assaulting a valued customer (so valued, he has his own NPC) and media partner on a public forum as a representative of the company is going to be met with severe consequences.
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CyricZ
07/12/18 8:42:17 AM
#401:


darkjedilink posted...
They don't need to, though.

No. You really do.

These kinds of policies you really need to spell out and have documented. It's how you avoid court cases for wrongful termination. I don't know if Error's assertion about ArenaNet's social media policy is true, but it's absolutely beneficial to the company to make these things clear.
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Error1355
07/12/18 9:01:02 AM
#402:


@CyricZ posted...
I don't know if Error's assertion about ArenaNet's social media policy is true, but it's absolutely beneficial to the company to make these things clear.

It's what I heard on the Giant Bombcast this week.
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