Board 8 > Ace Attorney Topic Part 7: The Letting (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)

(+) Yeah! (+)

the fact that Apollo has his shocked animation and Athena has her overjoyed animation is the best
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LeonhartFour posted...

"Manov Mistree"

I'm not totally sure the English puns in SoJ aren't more absurd than the Khur'ain puns.
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I guess trying to figure out how to deal with Bonny and Betty's combo testimony will give me good practice for Layton/AA.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I guess trying to figure out how to deal with Bonny and Betty's combo testimony will give me good practice for Layton/AA.

Unlike those we've talked about before, Bonny and Betty are clearly separate characters.
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yes but they're testifying at the same time
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been distracted by other things today
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"Ho ho ho. I plan to be sitting up here at least another ten years."

we can only hope
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I guess Trucy saying that Retinz making his camera disappear was a high-level sleight of hand should've clued me in on his identity, but it didn't occur to me that there were two different people playing Mr. Reus at the time.
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Apollo: M-Ms. Wright! P-Please don't swing that big, dangerous thing around! Somebody could get hurt!
Trucy: Apollo! Please don't shout when I am swinging said blade around! Somebody could get hurt!
Apollo: ...Oh. Ha ha ha. Y-Yeah. Sorry about that. I couldn't help myself...
Trucy: Hmph! You should know better than to talk to me when I'm on stage!
Judge: ...Mr. Justice, I'll see you in my chambers after court is adjourned.

seriously one of the best testimonies in the series, not just for the novelty of Trucy performing the trick during it, but for both she and the Judge repeatedly getting annoyed with Apollo for pressing her during it
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Nahyuta: A business card...? Ah, yes. I read about this custom among businessmen in this country. I have even familiarized myself with the various replies. "How do you do, good sir?" or, "What's crack-a-lackin', homie?" for example.

this is the best Nahyuta
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I hate when a press forces me into an evidence present, which means I have to take a penalty to get back into the testimony and press the other statements.
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I like the Mr. Reus reveal. His new animations and his theme are both so good.
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I think my favorite Nahyuta animation is the clapping one that blows his ponytail behind his shoulder.
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whew 6-2 finally complete

I really wish they had split that up into two short days instead of one long day. I feel like it would've helped the pacing. Anyway, numbers soonish.
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Total lines by character:

1. Phoenix Wright - 20230
2. Miles Edgeworth - 15023
3. Apollo Justice - 7755
4. The Judge - 6503
5. Maya Fey - 4444
6. Dick Gumshoe - 4089
7. Athena Cykes - 3761
8. Kay Faraday - 3370
9. Trucy Wright - 2494
10. Franziska von Karma - 2314
11. Ema Skye - 2044
12. Mia Fey - 1418
13. Pearl Fey - 1230
14. Klavier Gavin - 1154
15. Shi-Long Lang - 1101
16. Simon Blackquill - 1022
17. Justine Courtney - 1016
18. Larry Butz - 1008
19. Raymond Shields - 971
20. Godot - 902
21. Bobby Fulbright - 700
22. Gregory Edgeworth - 649
23. Lotta Hart - 648
24. Tyrell Badd - 593
25. Dahlia Hawthorne - 578
26. Wendy Oldbag - 553
27. Sebastian Debeste - 521
28. Calisto Yew/Shih-na - 489
29. Adrian Andrews - 459
30. Winston Payne - 453
31. Manfred von Karma - 444
32. The Judge's Brother - 421
33. Shelly de Killer - 387
34. Lamiroir/Thalassa Gramarye - 382
35. Will Powers - 380
36. Simon Keyes - 380
37. Bikini - 351
38. Gaspen Payne - 335
39. Maggey Byrde - 323
40. Lawrence "Moe" Curls - 320
41. Kristoph Gavin - 319
42. Quercus Alba - 303
43. Valant Gramarye - 298
44. Luke Atmey - 292
45. Damon Gant - 285
46. Juniper Woods - 277
47. Ini Miney - 275
48. Angel Starr - 272
49. Ron DeLite - 271
50. Rhoda Teneiro - 268
51. Katherine Hall - 267
52. Blaise Debeste - 265
53. Regina Berry - 261
54. Jake Marshall - 257
55. Jean Armstrong - 251
56. Nicole Swift - 250
57. Lana Skye - 249
58. Victor Kudo - 247
59. Khura'in Judge - 242
60. Mike Meekins - 235
61. Marvin Grossberg - 234
62. Jacques Portsman - 231
63. Spark Brushel - 230
64. Frank Sahwit - 219
65. Alita Tiala - 219
66. Hugh O'Conner - 218
67. Marlon Rimes - 217
68. Patricia Roland - 217
69. Daryan Crescend - 216
70. Dane Gustavia - 209
71. Horace Knightley - 209
72. Florent L'Belle - 208
73. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 205
74. Maximillion Galactica - 203
75. Ben & Trilo Quist - 200
76. Yuri Cosmos - 199
77. Sasha Buckler - 198
78. Penny Nichols - 194
79. Phineas Filch - 192
80. Jinxie Tenma - 191
81. Ken "Acro" Dingling - 182
82. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
83. Iris - 181
84. Herman Crab - 180
85. Damian Tenma - 179
86. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
87. Furio Tigre - 176
88. Zak Gramarye - 174
89. Matt Engarde - 171
90. Sirhan Dogen - 170
91. Cammy Meele - 168
92. Morgan Fey - 165
93. Redd White - 162
94. Betty de Famme - 156
95. Aristotle Means - 154
96. Solomon Starbuck - 154
97. John Marsh - 153
98. Robin Newman - 153
99. Delicia Scones - 151
100. Colias Palaeno - 150
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101. Dee Vasquez - 148
102. Zinc Lablanc - 146
103. Desiree DeLite - 142
104. Ted Tonate - 141
105. Trilo Quist - 140
106. Wesley Stickler - 138
107. Cody Hackins - 135
108. Norma DePlume - 134
109. Olga Orly - 131
110. Lauren Paups - 130
111. Karin Jenson - 129
112. Myriam Scuttlebutt - 123
113. Aura Blackquill - 122
114. Guy Eldoon - 118
115. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 116
116. Wocky Kitaki - 112
117. Bonny de Famme - 111
118. Di-Jun Huang - 110
119. The Phantom - 107
120. Richard Wellington - 107
121. April May - 104
123. Vera Misham - 104
124. Jay Elbird - 102
125. Yanni Yogi - 98
126. Lance Amano - 92
127. Jeff Master - 90
128. Viola Cadaverini - 80
129. Director Hotti/Doctor Hickfield - 76
130. Plum Kitaki - 76
131. Terry Fawles - 74
132. Drew Misham - 74
133. The Bellboy - 72
134. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 69
135. Ernest Amano - 68
136. Ponco - 66
137. Benjamin Woodman - 60
138. Sal Manella - 59
139. Chief of Detectives - 55
140. Bonnie Young - 53
141. Lisa Basil - 46
142. Clonco - 43
143. Machi Tobaye - 41
144. Orla Shipley - 40
145. Turner Grey - 39
146. Widget - 36
147. Elise Deauxnim - 30
148. Missile - 20
149. Polly - 20
150. Winfred "Big Wins" Kitaki - 20
151. The Amazing Mr. Hat - 19
152. Romein LeTouse - 13
153. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 11
154. Taka - 10
155. Shah'do - 6
156. Datz Are'bal - 1
157. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 1

Overall total lines - 109149

Total lines by segment:

6-2 Trial Day 1 - 1540
6-2 Investigation Day 1 - 1447

Total lines by case:

2-4 - 5946
1-5 - 5913
3-5 - 5815
E1-5 - 4831
E2-5 - 4777
4-3 - 4494
3-2 - 4151
3-3 - 4063
E2-3 - 3959
4-4 - 3952
E2-2 - 3936
2-3 - 3884
5-2 - 3750
5-6 - 3616
4-2 - 3468
1-4 - 3466
5-3 - 3202
2-2 - 3119
6-2 - 2987
E1-4 - 2935
E2-4 - 2868
1-3 - 2741
5-5 - 2550
E1-3 - 2412
5-4 - 2018
E1-2 - 1995
E2-1 - 1923
1-2 - 1773
4-1 - 1421
6-1 - 1362
3-4 - 1225
3-1 - 1167
5-1 - 1102
E1-1 - 1039
2-1 - 899
4-0 - 679
1-1 - 389

Totals lines by game:

AAI2 - 17463
T&T - 16422
DD - 16238
PW1 - 14282
JFA - 13848
AJ - 13335
AAI1 - 13212
SoJ - 4349

Total lines by character per case:

The Magical Turnabout (6-2)

1. Apollo Justice - 1170 (39.17%)
2. Athena Cykes - 507 (16.97%)
3. Trucy Wright - 221 (7.40%)
4. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 205 (6.86%)
5. The Judge - 196 (6.56%)
6. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182 (6.09%)
7. Betty de Famme - 156 (5.22%)
8. Ema Skye - 147 (4.92%)
9. Bonny de Famme - 111 (3.72%)
10. Other - 62
11. Phoenix Wright - 16
12. Widget - 9
13. Manov Mistree - 5

Total lines by character per game:

Spirit of Justice

1. Apollo Justice - 1170
2. Phoenix Wright - 530
3. Athena Cykes - 507
4. Khura'in Judge - 242
5. Trucy Wright - 221
6. Nahyuta Sahdmadhi - 205
7. The Judge - 196
8. Gaspen Payne - 184
9. Roger Retinz/Mr. Reus - 182
10. Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin - 178
11. Betty de Famme - 156
12. Ema Skye - 147
13. Ahlbi Ur'gaid - 116
14. Bonny de Famme - 111
15. Other - 102
16. Rayfa Padma Khura'in - 69
17. Inga Karkhuul Khura'in - 11
18. Widget - 9
19. Shah'do - 6
20. Manov Mistree - 5
21. Dhurke Sahdmadhi - 1
22. Datz Are'bal - 1
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LeonhartFour posted...

whew 6-2 finally complete

I really wish they had split that up into two short days instead of one long day. I feel like it would've helped the pacing. Anyway, numbers soonish.

Probably, but I do appreciate how the awkward pacing of the case ends up feeding into the story. It felt like confronting Retinz would have normally happened on a second trial day while Apollo gets the chance to dig up his background, but instead, he has to do it on the same day because Retinz will own the lawfirm if he doesn't.
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Yeah, that's true. In that case, maybe they should've had a 2-4 moment where the Judge is about to adjourn for the day and Apollo has to beg him to continue.
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Betty got more lines than Means? That's interesting.
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man she never shuts up once she's on the stand

she interrupts Bonny constantly too
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I like Maya's new thinking animation where her eyes shift every time she blinks.
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Teaming up Phoenix and Rayfa for 6-3 might be the smartest thing SoJ did (aside from letting Apollo take the lead for 6-5, that is). It gives Rayfa some much needed character development that she'd have been hard pressed to get elsewhere, and their dynamic is really unique.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I like Maya's new thinking animation where her eyes shift every time she blinks.

This is my favorite recurring animation in the game.
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there are so many good ones. rayfa's "what?!" (narrowing eyes, shaking fists) and emma's thinking/tilting ones are amazing too!
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LeonhartFour posted...

Teaming up Phoenix and Rayfa for 6-3 might be the smartest thing SoJ did (aside from letting Apollo take the lead for 6-5, that is). It gives Rayfa some much needed character development that she'd have been hard pressed to get elsewhere, and their dynamic is really unique.

Yep I agree with this.

6-3 is a bit of a miss for me but that Phoenix/Rayfa dynamic is excellent.
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Rayfa's tsundere animation is so great.
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The Lady Kee'ra theme is cool.
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I think I like Datz's first look with the long hair and full beard better than the second one with his eminently punchable face.
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Phoenix: Don't tell me...you actually believe that the real lady Kee'ra returned to kill the high rpeist?
Maya: ...........Don't be silly, Nick.
Phoenix: Huh?
Maya: Historical figures don't come back to life. I mean, give me a break.
Phoenix: B-B-But! You were saying only yesterday, how it was more fun to believe that she's the real deal.
Maya: Yeah, YESTERDAY! I wish I could keep on entertaining that fantasy, too, but the fact is, we're dealing with a murder here! Thus, my days of dreaming have come to an end.
Phoenix: ..........
Maya: I'm going to keep it real from now on. And you should, too, Nick.
Phoenix: (I thought you said I was the boring one because I was "keeping it real...?")
Maya: Sorry, I guess I've outgrown that stepladder argument we always have.
Phoenix: I think you mean "ladder," Maya.

This is one of my favorite conversations in the game. It shows how much Maya and her relationship with Phoenix have matured since the days of the OT. It also shows that they were both always "in" on the joke when they "argued" in the OT.
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Beh'leeb is so great

the first time that she holds up Tahrust's picture and starts talking as him and switching pictures to change expressions is so unexpected that you can't help but be charmed by it
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Beh'leeb is lowkey a really cool character imo

she doesn't have a lot of presence but she makes the most of her appearances without having a comically overboard character gimmick (just a slightly silly and clever one)

The Audience Chamber theme is so good

also I'm convinced if I could ever get user SaveEstelle to play these games SoJ would be his favorite AA game
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6-3 investigation day 1 complete

hype for the trial
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Yeah Beh'leeb is pretty cool. Though at first I thought she looks very bland before the portrait gimmick.
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I think that's part of the appeal. The gimmick is totally unexpected, and they actually hold off on having her do it for the first time for a while, too.
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Tahrust's Divination Seance might be the best one because he deliberately took measures to conceal what he was doing and fool everyone since he knew one would be performed that would show his last moments.
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I'm kinda confused as to why Phoenix would argue that Tahrust and Maya's positions were reversed based on the fact that he entered the spring instead of just arguing that he turned around and found a third party in the spring, which would be more beneficial to Maya's case (and closer to being accurate, at that).
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The high priest being a rebel is a great twist because it has a unique effectiveness in this particular setting.

6-3 day 1 is also the one time Nahyuta's supposed ability to foresee the direction a trial will go feels legit because he foreshadows that he already sees his path to victory shortly after the Divination Seance ends, and then he delivers on it.
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Last night's Last Week Tonight was about corruption in prosecution and how prosecutors will do things like withhold evidence in order to win cases

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truly we are in the dark age of the law where the ends justify the means

Hey, this is when Ace Attorney is supposed to take place.
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But I don't think the Dark Age of the Law is supposed to start for at least another year.
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well we're a couple months away from 3-2 now
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6-3 trial day 1 complete

Man, I can't help but feel bad for Phoenix. He does some darn good work completely destroying Datz's testimony to the point that he even admits that it was all one huge lie, but it only damages the case against Maya in the end (and he sees it coming once he figures out who A'nohn Ihmus TBD is). Also, I feel pretty confident in saying this is Nahyuta's best work, too. He comes up with several correct conclusions. He just attributes them to the wrong people. He figures out that the robe was placed over the warbaa'd statue to fool the Divination Seance, but he says that Maya was the one who did it rather than Tahrust. He also rightly concludes that only someone with access to the high priest's home could have left the warning letter, but again, he attributes it to Maya rather than to Zeh'lot. Nahyuta makes a very solid circumstantial case against Maya, especially once he accuses her of being the rebel hunter.
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you know I just realized that Ace Attorney has had not one but two games since the last Character Battle

I wonder if we should push to get a new character from the series in

although I mean nobody but Phoenix will ever be that popular here so it might not be worth the effort
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We could try to get Edgeworth in again.
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to Edgeworth's credit he has never come in last place in a multi-way match

but if we were to go for someone non-Phoenix I'd like to see us push Godot, Maya, or even Apollo
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Edgeworth has gotten into every character battle since 2007. Not sure he'll need much help.
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I like how Phoenix and Rayfa's dynamic changes from day 1 to day 2. On day 1, Phoenix is basically walking on eggshells around her all day long. On day 2, he feels a bit more comfortable around her and even jokes around with her a little. He almost starts to look at her like a daughter, or at the very least, views her through the eyes of a father. Then Rayfa is much more willing to help him in his investigation, and she clearly feels sympathy for him and wishes he would just withdraw from the case to save himself.
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All the stuff in Dhurke's hideout in 6-3 is super good, whether it's all the stuff you learn about Dhurke, Apollo, and Nahyuta, or Datz's Psyche-Lock.
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Maya might be a best choice for a new AA character. She is Phoenix's companion in UMvC3, correct? Still wouldn't expect her to do any better than Edgeworth, though.
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