Board 8 > Chris Music Mafia 2: Consequences

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Corrik posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Also corrik and igcd look horrible we all agree yes

pray tell, why do i look horrible?

Everyone who said zam wasn't scum is scum according to his rudimentary logic

Ah, gotcha

Wanna do something fun?

The plot thickens?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Also corrik and igcd look horrible we all agree yes

pray tell, why do i look horrible?

Defending zam post counter. You said you didnt see thecounter which is probably true, but scum is more likely to be skimming here. especially if everyone is saying counter as town I would expect you to look at Tony's posts to see what he said for you to know where you stand
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IGCD would be better off waiting then to defend Zam through feigned ignorance though
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Corrik already claimed he isnt reading the topic to justify why he has terrible reads

Its an easy lynch tomorrow guys

ColZach posted...

Corrik already claimed he isnt reading the topic to justify why he has terrible reads

Its an easy lynch tomorrow guys

Yeah I read like 10 posts between 2pm yesterday and 11am today.
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Corrik posted...

ColZach posted...

Corrik already claimed he isnt reading the topic to justify why he has terrible reads

Its an easy lynch tomorrow guys

Yeah I read like 10 posts between 2pm yesterday and 11am today.

But to be fair, it was well known I was going to a wedding yesterday.
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Also corrik and igcd look horrible we all agree yes

pray tell, why do i look horrible?

Defending zam post counter. You said you didnt see thecounter which is probably true, but scum is more likely to be skimming here. especially if everyone is saying counter as town I would expect you to look at Tony's posts to see what he said for you to know where you stand

Or someone with two kids that was put into the game right around the start of topic 2 that was still catching up.
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Alright I have to admit that is fair Corrik

ColZach posted...

Corrik already claimed he isnt reading the topic to justify why he has terrible reads

Its an easy lynch tomorrow guys

I feel like I have seen Corrik say he isn't reading the game before

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

ScareChan posted...

Also corrik and igcd look horrible we all agree yes

pray tell, why do i look horrible?

Defending zam post counter. You said you didnt see thecounter which is probably true, but scum is more likely to be skimming here. especially if everyone is saying counter as town I would expect you to look at Tony's posts to see what he said for you to know where you stand

Or someone with two kids that was put into the game right around the start of topic 2 that was still catching up.

Also I asked about it and I assumed it had happened in topic one, I just decided to get to it when I got to it. I didn't realize that the actual counter was pretty much one of the first posts of this topic.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

ColZach posted...

Corrik already claimed he isnt reading the topic to justify why he has terrible reads

Its an easy lynch tomorrow guys

I feel like I have seen Corrik say he isn't reading the game before

Oh yeah
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ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

wait... what the fuck is going on right now?

Zam claimed watcher

Tony counter claimed

See this is theissudu
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Hate mobile

That's the issue

You said your post like you saw the first couple of posts and became confused and then I highlighted what was going on. What is the what the hell at it not for the first few posts of this topic
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Wheres Han to yell about perspective slips?

pjbasis posted...

ColZach posted...

EDumey posted...

ColZach posted...

I asked Zam to claim
Then tony counter claimed

Its that easy

how does that have anything to do with your alignment?

Because why would scum do the actions I did?

Why would I pressure Alakazam to claim or tell Tony to counter claim?

I dont know how to explain it further so I guess if you dont think it confirms me as town, I am incorrect so I apologize

I feel like this is a very town post.

What? You didnt do this.
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I didnt tell you to counter claim, and thats the point I was making.

I still say why would scum do what I did in argument of me being confirmed given the circumstances and my zam pressure but its okay

Nobody is confirmed, zach.

As for Tony, given that Tony himself soft counterclaimed. It was up to anyone to ask him to seal the deal, scum or town.
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ScareChan posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Hey Scare, I have a weird question for you. Be honest - how much do you desire ranking in Chris' patented top 3 players?

None at all.

It's these posts that led me to ask you this question.

ScareChan posted...

I would be shocked if zam is not just scum watcher

And none of the people I listed were people I said were busting him.

Han, zach, plum are the ones that were involved where he messed up saying it was auto correct and similarly last game he messed up players that were posted here in topic tjay were all town. So that's town points to all I feel

Dumey is the only guy zam voted today so also town points

In fact the only person I said is sketchy is sultan because that is a possible Bus. Especially if you go out and see how the vote went down

ScareChan posted...

So assuming zam is scum

Tony lock town

Han, zach, plum, dumey all very likely town

For reference, these were made by you after Tony counter claimed watcher, but before he admitted to being scum. At this point, Alakazam was not at all confirmed to be scum, and you seemed to have already decided that he was. Enough to take the next step and start saying players who interacted with him in certain ways were town. This came off to me as either a town who was being "extra" to a fault (perhaps trying to be MVP), or a scum who is bussing Zam and already knew he was scum with nothing to stand on. Someone who knew how the day was going to end. I will explain why I felt that now.

I've hardly ever seen someone set up so many reads on players in advance before the player who's interactions you are judging even flips. I dont think you could have been so confident in Alakazam's scumminess to truthfully have all of those reads with so much confidence. Especially since you are well aware of Zam's "sketchy plays" as both alignments.

But even with you being confident Zam is scum this game, you listed 4 people after Tony - basically anyone who interacted with Zam at all during the period where you saw him break, and called them all "very likely town". I think there is a huge gap in potential towniness from those interactions between Zach and say...Dumey. I think calling them all equally "very likely town" wraps it up in a bow too nicely and you could easily fit a scum mate or two into that list who look good coming out of the Zam interactions.

I have one more thing to say, let me go quote it
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

the day has entered twilight. No further votes will be accepted but you can talk until 10:15 EDT

Before I got to the 10:15 part and thought Twilight was just 15 minutes, I thought my last post modkilled myself.

Corrik posted...

But, I am already dead tonight because I already claimed, so it doesn't matter much.

Why would you think youre dead tonight over me?

ColZach posted...

Corrik nobody understands what youre saying, and you arent confirmed.

Id be confirmed before you are.

So Ill see you tomorrow during the day.

I dont like this post at all. You know Corrik is Town or you know hes not going to die. Either way, scummy as hell
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

I am town watcher

autocorrects do happen, there's a whole YouTube section on them.

Aw, good try.

##unvote
##vote: Alakazam

ScareChan posted...

Tony did you counter claim Zam?

it's kind of important for you to be clear here so we can figure out where to go from here

Why DID you think this was a counterclaim anyway? I feel like you were waiting for the inevitable counterclaim and that you had to be a tad paranoid to pick out Tony's post from the crowd. Also your phrasing is so non-chalant here - "so we can figure out where to go from here". Which contrasts with your attitude as soon as Tony confirms the counter claim, where you think Zam is confirmed scum enough to start giving town points to his enemies.

I think you are scum and had too much information and were waiting next to am ready to eat him. What say you?

##Unvote

##Vote: Scare

Also hi corrik. Glad you're here
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My computer just had some sort of colossal freakout when I turned it back on and it's where my focus is right now.

Also... People use the word confirmed too much.

...How?

Is it not obvious that Im saying he isnt confirmed and neither am I

So well both live till tomorrow?

Corrik posted...

Except a good town player wouldn't have claimed watcher today to counter him. So, yeah.

Ouch

I tried not to.
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And Scare, my perspective at the time concerning Zam was that his alignment was not yet totally obvious, because Zam has done some crazy town fake claims before, most of which lead to him being suspected more.
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ColZach posted...

...How?

Is it not obvious that Im saying he isnt confirmed and neither am I

So well both live till tomorrow?

Its the last part, specifically.

And instead of or, it should be and tbh
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

Except a good town player wouldn't have claimed watcher today to counter him. So, yeah.

Ouch

I tried not to.

Yes you did >_>
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The problem I am having this game is that I am running out of scum list.

I have as people who are or need to be highly considered scum as

Red
FD
Dumey

Very possibly Scum
Scare
Panthera
Colzach

Likely Town
Crescent
PJ

Town
ChaosTony
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Toss htaed in the very possibly scum list.
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lol benjamin
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Day has officially ended, the votes should look something like....

[9] - Alakazam - Scare, Zach, Plum, Sultan, Tony, Tange, Han, Leo, Corrik
[1] - Plum - Puns, (Leo), (Death), (Han), (Ben)
[1] - Leo - (Sultan), Panthera, (EDumey)
[1] - Edumey - Zam
[1] - Puns - (Crescent), IGCD
[1] - Corrik - (Scare), Ben
[0] - Zach - (Han), (Tange)
[0] - FD - (Corrik)
[0] - Crescent - (Scare), (Plum)
[0] - Han - (Crescent), (Tony)


Ben's unvote to Scare was not counted, as it was made after the day has ended.

Twilight lasts until 10:15 pm EDT

Remember not to post a second sooner
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

ColZach posted...

Also

Lynch->lunch is a typo

Not Zach->Han

##vote:Alakazam

really? do you really want to argue autocorrect? it's different for everyone, especially on a phone that's android based

This is the post that makes me like Zach as town - Reason being, autocorrect was the sole reason Zam was panicked enough to claim, and this is the first and only time he responded to that threat before his claim happened. It's something he is still fighting back against now, so it's clearly real frustration.
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Oh yeah. No more voting.

.....do i dare

Then the grinch had an idea. An awful idea. The grinch had a wonderful...awful idea
....
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YOU CAN'T STOP ME
##FOS: Scar- *shot*
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ScareChan posted...

ScareChan posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

wait... what the fuck is going on right now?

Zam claimed watcher

Tony counter claimed

See this is theissudu

Yup, I got replaced in, made my first post, saw some things in regards to that, asked about it, then tried to stay current while catching up. I dont remember reading Tony's counter claim post so I was confused when I got to the end of topic 1 because I hadn't seen him counter anywhere in topic 1. I did see his "awww, nice try post," and assumed that was what everyone was talking about, that post would not have been concrete enough for me.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Twilight lasts until 10:15 EDT

Remember not to post a second sooner

Oh no, now we're all dead

Ben

Alakazam disappeared after Tony countered and that confirmed him scum to me. Basically as soon as Tony countered zam was scum to me. I posted the townly people and then someone said that zam is very busable and I explained why none of the people I talked about were people that looked good for just voting zam. It's more the things zam did concerning them that makes them look town to me.

I thought Tony counter claimed because the claim is what made him change his stance and I gave a reason later for thinking Tony was power previous to that post. To recap it last game he had no problem claiming vanilla freely. I asked him to claim and he ignored me completely. I mental mapped that as him being power or scum. With that in mind that vote looks like a counter to me

Also you cant vote me its twilight
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So real talk. Do you guys honestly think if Alakazam is scum with me that I tell him to post on an alt to defend himself then shit all over his alt and prove it is his alt? I mean, I don't know how to deal with this situation as it should have never been inserted into the game, but like, I am confirmed as possible right now.
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Corrik posted...

So real talk. Do you guys honestly think if Alakazam is scum with me that I tell him to post on an alt to defend himself then shit all over his alt and prove it is his alt? I mean, I don't know how to deal with this situation as it should have never been inserted into the game, but like, I am confirmed as possible right now.

Well no way he HYPOTHETICALLY discloses that to his scum team in the first place since the point is to not be outed. Also anyone played that Sega Genesis game Crystal the Pony? Good stuff
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But, me pointing that out could possibly lead to even more consequences to my team, and why wouldn't I have done that on a scum board or via pm instead of here?

I think you have to do way too many gymnastics to get to me being not confirmed town. And, I think me being confirmed town is an apt punishment for that shinaniganz.
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ScareChan posted...

Ben

Alakazam disappeared after Tony countered and that confirmed him scum to me. Basically as soon as Tony countered zam was scum to me. I posted the townly people and then someone said that zam is very busable and I explained why none of the people I talked about were people that looked good for just voting zam. It's more the things zam did concerning them that makes them look town to me.

I thought Tony counter claimed because the claim is what made him change his stance and I gave a reason later for thinking Tony was power previous to that post. To recap it last game he had no problem claiming vanilla freely. I asked him to claim and he ignored me completely. I mental mapped that as him being power or scum. With that in mind that vote looks like a counter to me

Also you cant vote me its twilight

I think these explanations are fair. Tony do you agree that Scare figured out you were power?

Also, I want to talk about Plum. Which interaction with Zam had you town clearing him? Because to me it seemed like he stumbled into his Zam vote. Like he "realized" that for his own comments to be true Zam had to be scum and then voted him while giving a really odd explanation tagged to the vote.

benjamin3740 posted...

masterplum posted...

In

##unvote
##vote:Alakazam

I am pretty confident he called me town solely because he knows I am not on his team

This seems so specific. You think Zam wouldn't be able to town read you as town, nor do you think Zam would be comfortable shading you if he was scum? Does he call every town town or would it just be you?

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Way more gymnastics to even think you are town
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ScareChan posted...

Way more gymnastics to even think you are town

Are you scum or just trying to act like scum or...?

Like, usually activity makes you town. But, you seem hostile. And, it seems to line up with Alakazam doing that shit. Are you just scum pissed off as fuck about your teammate?
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I'm the one that lead the charge on zam lol
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ScareChan posted...

I'm the one that lead the charge on zam lol

But did you? How come I have a feeling whenever I do read day 1 that this will not line up?
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I am sure you will find a story to match what you are saying now

It will be easier to nightkill me than thinking you can mislynch me this game corrik
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ScareChan posted...

I am sure you will find a story to match what you are saying now

It will be easier to nightkill me than thinking you can mislynch me this game corrik

I mean, your narrative is just weird. It is impossible to logically think I can be anything other than town at this point. There is no way scum-scum could have interacted in a way to gain benefit from Alakazam's situation post removal.

Like, I am trying to figure out how logically you could even get to where you are as a Town mind. It is relatively baffling, especially for someone of your caliber. I am totally at a loss at how to make that work.

Btw: the post that I said undoubtedly makes Red scum is that it was a post that had absolutely zero value and was posted by Red to extend fake content for people. Red doesn't make that post as town.

FD is likely scum because he is playing off of the prior game to wave away his interaction and worth this game. Why does he do that as Town? Especially with the ever weird as always lynch scum at the end.

Red is most surer to be scum than FD right now, but FD is trying to appeal to people with his first post. He could have taken that time to try and actually do something instead of monologue to the game in reference to his prior game to try and get a sympathetic view.
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I suspect Alakazam will flip Scum Watcher. It was basically the only way I see his claim there from scum. If he is truly Vanilla, it speaks to a low power game and to a scum team not having a ninja (or why else wouldn't he have known there was likely a watcher?)
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Corrik read the game
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ScareChan posted...

Corrik read the game

I have no intention to read a game I likely won't be alive for the next day.
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For the record, I lead the charge when I literally pressured him to claim

Btw twilight is so intrinsically anti-scum that I suspect a lot of the people who are not using the time of the game to keep posting are more likely to be scum. That is at least one point in your favor, scare. Though you are using the time weirdly to just keep trying to shade me.
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