Board 8 > Chris Music Mafia 3: Intermission

(+) Yeah! (+)

Ok, it looks like I had some sort of virus trying to murder my computer and I am relatively but not entirely certain that it is now dead since nothing seems to be trying to murder my computer anymore.

I am going to have dinner and then get caught up.

I said that I would be shocked if he is not just scum watcher

and he also made some weird comment to me about me forcing him to do it which I didnt understand what he said at the time but now looking back I think he was trying to paint me as a buddy
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Corrik posted...

Taking posts out of context to argue nonsense.

I am referring to forced time upon us in twilight. And, how it is anti-scum.

The context of your original conversation is irrelevant to my point. Completely irrelevant.

Scare

I have 3 scenarios for you to act the way you are now.

2 involve you being scum.
1 involves you being town.

Can you even take a whiff at the scenarios?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Corrik posted...

Taking posts out of context to argue nonsense.

I am referring to forced time upon us in twilight. And, how it is anti-scum.

The context of your original conversation is irrelevant to my point. Completely irrelevant.

Literally board 8 in a nutshell. I will ignore everything you say, take a small part out of context, then start an argument over it. Thanks for letting me know not to waste anymore time talking to you about it!
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I iterally dont care corrik because I am fairly certain your scum and if you are town you are just on one
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Okay, Scare. Nice playing with you!
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Corrik posted...

Literally board 8 in a nutshell. I will ignore everything you say, take a small part out of context, then start an argument over it. Thanks for letting me know not to waste anymore time talking to you about it!

The context of your original conversation is irrelevant to my point. Completely irrelevant.

Corrik posted...

Okay, Scare. Nice playing with you!

Im still here and will talk

you asked me to guess your scenarios

I dont want to bother
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You said you don't "care".

I am just so thrilled that I am sitting here between a "Corrik is scum and I don't give one fucking care what he does this game" and "I don't understand what context is and just want to argue so I will take portions of a statement out of context to start them and then act like context is irrelevant when that is literally illogical"

Like, great! I am glad I am taking my time to play this game for this. Woohoo. Yay.

Then add a side of "You said we should be using this time to talk and scum is more likely to hide during it. Well, guess what! I think I remember you crying about extended days before!!!"

Like, I have eyerolled so many times today that I think I am fucking cross eyed at this point.
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Okay, I'll play with you corrik

lets hear what your scenarios are
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And if the goal of people saying crap like this is to annoy me and silence me from the game to minimize my impact, you will fail. I am already the tops in posts and I was literally not even here for over half of the game. And, it won't stop. I will find you all. I won't be brushed off.
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ScareChan posted...

Okay, I'll play with you corrik

lets hear what your scenarios are

Okay! Cool!

Scenario 1 - Scum
"The I don't give a fuck anymore"

The alakazam scenario fucking pissed you off. You don't give a fuck anymore. You are just acting like whatever and fucking around because he spoiled the game for you. (Might even be not far from a replace)

Scenario 2 - Scum
"The show for Corrik"

You know my major scum tell regarding you is activity. Usually you idle greatly as scum. And, by god, you will show ME specifically how active you are this game by nonstop hounding me, so I never forget it!

Scenario 3 - Town
"I'll show you, ya dick"

As I was bending town over my knee last game, I specifically scolded you for being bad and sheeping other players. For not using your own mind, failing as a player by not doing so, and for being relatively pathetic as town. Thus, this game you are making sure you don't sheep anyone and do your own thing. And, that includes pressuring the fuck out of me to try and find something. Anything. C'mon. Gimme something! Haha, I got a point to prove!

That or some other stupid gimmick play.

Because, I can't get to where you are logically if you are just regular town with your skill level. Like, sorry. I cannot do it otherwise.
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would you like to know a secret corrik
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Maybe I just want you to get a taste of what interacting with Corrik in a mafia game feels like.

Also, btw, the context of your original post is irrelevant to my point.

ScareChan posted...

would you like to know a secret corrik

You don't care. Yay. Fucking hilarious.
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Guys corrik worries me he played this way last game as scum and he convinced alot of town people to go his way. Either this is always how corrik plays or he is scumm
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Anyway I'm signing out for the rest of the day. See you all day 2.

Sultan why do you think I am the best scum player on the board? lol
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Corrik posted...

ScareChan posted...

would you like to know a secret corrik

You don't care. Yay. Fucking hilarious.

No its actual information that if you are town could help figure out your stance on me
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Ok then what
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After last game Zam touted that you have to pressure him and I was hoping to be town and to press him at the first oppertunity that seemed like it could be pressed to see exactly how much he would crack or stand back because I gave him a pass too easily last game.

He messed up with the auto correct, it was a big enough tick to press, and he fell very quickly. The suck it Zam comment was more high fiving myself than rubbing it in Zams face. I wanted a fast bounceback and he gave that to me
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That makes sense.
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if I were scum with Zam I feel like I would probably go out of my way to not poke him, give him a pass, and coach him on scumboard as he showed last games scum board he seemed open to being coached
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ScareChan posted...[D1, T1, P008]

Im going to see winnie the pooh in a little bit

I expect several pages when I get back

It's called Christopher Robin. Please stop lying.

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Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P023]

Odds of me being scum this game are probably in the hundreds of thousands.

I keep seeing this brough up. Do you not know how math works?

It's VERY easy to figure out.

This game is 6/22
TT was 5/16
Blade was 5/20

5 * 5 * 6 = 150
22 * 16 * 20 = 7040

Your chance of being scum THIS game is 6/22 or 27.27%

Your chance of being scum ALL THREE of the last games is 150/7040 or 2.13% which is about 1 in 47.

Please dispense with this hundreds of thousands garbage. You are starting to sound like Ulti in the hearthstone topics and Lord knows I see enough of that already.

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ColZach posted...[D1, T1, P046]

honestly the chance of you being scum 3 games in a row is still very roughly 1/27 at max, assuming average scum team is around a third of the game

Close, but it's actually only about half that^

and 1/3 is not average scum size but typically more of the max scum size. 1/4 is more of the minimum with the average falling somewhere in between. The cube root of 47 is 3.6 so I guess the average over the last 3 games is 1 in 3.6.

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benjamin3740 posted...[D1, T1, P057]

My role is doctor so I'll check his pulse tonight.

Uhh..... That isn't how doctor works. (not sure if serious post)

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Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P084]

##vote: FD

You crazy, Rik.

And I wont be on those posts for awhile but later on you say that I should be posting my usual activity rather than posting the reason why I'm not available to do it.

Do you realize how idiotic that is? It takes me 10 minutes to make a post explaining how (A) my birthday is this weekend and (B) I have lots of crazy work and (C) I have to get up early for church [this one is because my wife and I are going to a new church that is about an hour each way to get there so sundays just got busier moving forward]. It takes 10 minutes to throw that together.

On the flip side it is going to take me HOURS to poor through the thousand+ posts in day 1. HOURS that until just now I hadn't even the slightest moment to properly spare time for. But I'm committed to the idea that the clues are already there and if I put in the time I can find them, so I will be putting in the time. So I'm not trying to ride off last games coattails, because the shit I did last game is the same shit I did the game before, and the game before. I don't expect you to think I'm town this game because I was town last game. I expect you to think I'm town this game because I'm going to do my damndest to hunt scum and I intend to find them.

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htaeD posted...[D1, T1, P102]

taking from my last scumgame I can agree with Leo
scum gets away with a lot because town always limits itself to a few players each day

and by the time Mylo comes around, they are too lazy or tired out to broaden their scopes.

Just wanted to say that i like this post a lot. I hadn't taken notice of it when I did my post last night (the one about the tree branches), but I resonate really hard with the line of thinking.

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Corrik posted...[D1, T1, P114]

Sure it does.

5/16
5/21
6/22

If I asked you the chances I would be scum in 3 games in a row with this breakdown, it would be

2% or a 1/50 chance.

So, yeah, there is a 2% chance I would roll scum in all 3 games in a row.

However, since I already rolled scum in those both those games already, my odds of rolling scum this game are 27.3%, but bigger picture it is 2% for all three.

Well why did I waste my time mathing numbers if you were just going to do it yourself. Now I'm annoyed.

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EDumey posted...[D1, T1, P146]

Also happy birthday FD!

Thanks!!

Leafeon13N posted...[D1, T1, P152]

(and happy birthday fd)

Thanks, Red! Yours is coming up in just a couple of weeks :D

I still remember the formulas we used.

Chris = Month * 2
FD = Month / 2
Red = (Month*2) + (Month/2)

And ermine's is formula-less at the end of february :/

ScareChan posted...[D1, T1, P171]

Also happy birthday fd

Thank You!

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Crescent-Moon posted...[D1, T1, P151]

I just decided to iso plum.

An iso seems like an odd choice a meager 3 pages into day 1 :/

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ColZach posted...[D1, T1, P180]

1. Dont lynch plum.
2. Id lynch Leo.
3. Im still independent DJ.

Yeah I'm not even listing this in my list of claims and I have both millers there still. Why are you claiming to be a role that is host confirmed to not exist. It isn't cute.

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masterplum posted...[D1, T1, P193]

I just like Leo. Lynching people I like day 1 sucks

Yeahhh, Chris made a post similar to this last game when he said he would absolutely not lynch me day 1. It was based on a naruto reference I made. He was scum. Mafia does not have room in it for that kind of ingratiation.
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My perspective (*wink*) has changed a bit since I thought this, but... any chance Corrik is Scum who cares so little that he's trying to give the impression that he's Jester so that he isn't lynched?

People should give a clear list of a few suspicions, just so that whomever dies overnight has their voice clearly heard.
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which can all be wifom'd of course but you can see that I was first on Zam, begged for votes on him, and then dug in even deeper once I felt Tony was countering
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Tell me how you think a scum-scum interaction could be being used on game breaking play to create a beneficial outcome for scum?

Cuz, I don't see how you are getting that result with the town mind you are trying to state you have above.

The above thing is logical. What is logical about this scum-scum scenario you have concocted?
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for the record Christopher Robin was cute and definitely should go if you have kids or just someone thats very into disney

could have been way better, but its simple strutcure is obviously aimed at kids and was still worth going to see
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Corrik posted...

Tell me how you think a scum-scum interaction could be being used on game breaking play to create a beneficial outcome for scum?

Cuz, I don't see how you are getting that result with the town mind you are trying to state you have above.

The above thing is logical. What is logical about this scum-scum scenario you have concocted?

I am feeling like Zam did his own thing with the alt and you reacted to it naturally and using something thats not related to your alignment to push it as townly
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Corrik, you have been drinking and the content you think you're creating is just nonsense. As Scum or Town, you're going to waste a bunch of time bouncing around about how people responded to you at this end of day.

For the record, yes I still thought Zach looked bad throughout Zam's claim and Tony's counterclaim. Tony had a reason for sticking on - Zach did not.

Panth has had soft suspicion on Zach all day, which reads a lot like Panth being Scumbuddy and seeing something in an early Zach post that made him mad.

Out of everybody on Zam, the person who I think looks most odd is Tange.
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ScareChan posted...

Corrik posted...

Tell me how you think a scum-scum interaction could be being used on game breaking play to create a beneficial outcome for scum?

Cuz, I don't see how you are getting that result with the town mind you are trying to state you have above.

The above thing is logical. What is logical about this scum-scum scenario you have concocted?

I am feeling like Zam did his own thing with the alt and you reacted to it naturally and using something thats not related to your alignment to push it as townly

I would have been on my scumboard berating him and stomping for more mod action to be taken in the name of the rules. Probably arguing with the host and my teammates with my justice above the team mantra and so on. I mean, we literally just saw this last game.

The sad part is, he could have probably gotten away with it if he just hid his post history on his alt lol.
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Ok so... 2/3 of the posts over the 4 hours I was gone are Scare and Corrik ego fighting and I don't know what to make of it

Scare refresh me on some of your reads that aren't Corrik? I feel like things have gone off the rails to an extent

HanOfTheNekos posted...

My perspective (*wink*) has changed a bit since I thought this, but... any chance Corrik is Scum who cares so little that he's trying to give the impression that he's Jester so that he isn't lynched?

This is dumb

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth has had soft suspicion on Zach all day, which reads a lot like Panth being Scumbuddy and seeing something in an early Zach post that made him mad.

I haven't had suspicion on him at all, given that I called him my strongest town read.
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Ok so scare is town. That is good because now I am only one person too big on my scum team.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, you have been drinking and the content you think you're creating is just nonsense. As Scum or Town, you're going to waste a bunch of time bouncing around about how people responded to you at this end of day.

For the record, yes I still thought Zach looked bad throughout Zam's claim and Tony's counterclaim. Tony had a reason for sticking on - Zach did not.

Panth has had soft suspicion on Zach all day, which reads a lot like Panth being Scumbuddy and seeing something in an early Zach post that made him mad.

Out of everybody on Zam, the person who I think looks most odd is Tange.

Tange voted Zach for pretty weak reasons and I can't remember anything else he's really done. Personally I thought at least two of his reasons were useless. Have you commented on it? I don't remember.

So, basically my town scenario was sorta on point but sorta flawed. Scare is out for revenge. He is following my advice to do shit himself and not sheep people. But, he isn't going after me due to it. He just listened to my advice to take the easy layup, and not is filling super confident and trying to go for the slam dunk.

I got him. No biggie.
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feeling*
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, you have been drinking and the content you think you're creating is just nonsense. As Scum or Town, you're going to waste a bunch of time bouncing around about how people responded to you at this end of day.

For the record, yes I still thought Zach looked bad throughout Zam's claim and Tony's counterclaim. Tony had a reason for sticking on - Zach did not.

Panth has had soft suspicion on Zach all day, which reads a lot like Panth being Scumbuddy and seeing something in an early Zach post that made him mad.

Out of everybody on Zam, the person who I think looks most odd is Tange.

What about Sultan and the way he voted and then kind of dissappeared since
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Corrik posted...

ScareChan posted...

Corrik posted...

Tell me how you think a scum-scum interaction could be being used on game breaking play to create a beneficial outcome for scum?

Cuz, I don't see how you are getting that result with the town mind you are trying to state you have above.

The above thing is logical. What is logical about this scum-scum scenario you have concocted?

I am feeling like Zam did his own thing with the alt and you reacted to it naturally and using something thats not related to your alignment to push it as townly

I would have been on my scumboard berating him and stomping for more mod action to be taken in the name of the rules. Probably arguing with the host and my teammates with my justice above the team mantra and so on. I mean, we literally just saw this last game.

The sad part is, he could have probably gotten away with it if he just hid his post history on his alt lol.

I mean you very well could have, you just also took advantage to look good in topic
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Panthera posted...

Zach only posted a few times but it was enough to get me thinking he might be scum.

Panthera posted...

Or maybe we could just lynch Zach

Lynch all liars.

Panthera posted...

Strongest town read at this point (besides Tony, since who the hell fake counter claims Zam on day 1) is Zach, I feel like I've seen his town game enough to recognize some of his habits.

This appears after a bit of an extended absence, but it still feels quite weird that Panth's soft suspicion of Zach suddenly went cold turkey and flipped the other direction.

Panth was also one of the Alakazam defenders, about the "autocorrect".

Crescent-Moon posted...

Tange voted Zach for pretty weak reasons and I can't remember anything else he's really done. Personally I thought at least two of his reasons were useless. Have you commented on it? I don't remember.

I'm pretty sure I haven't said anything about Tange, but yeah, he don't look great.

ScareChan posted...

What about Sultan and the way he voted and then kind of dissappeared since

I did say earlier that I thought Sultan looked Scummy. I think his most recent post is pretty off-kilter as well.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Ok so... 2/3 of the posts over the 4 hours I was gone are Scare and Corrik ego fighting and I don't know what to make of it

Scare refresh me on some of your reads that aren't Corrik? I feel like things have gone off the rails to an extent

Han, Zach, and Puns (I think it was puns) likely town due to the autocorrect nonesense. Zam did something similiar last game and the people he mixed up were all town.

Dumey was his only vote, I feel town points for dumey
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Speak my name and I shall be summoned. Just got back reading last page or two.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

This appears after a bit of an extended absence, but it still feels quite weird that Panth's soft suspicion of Zach suddenly went cold turkey and flipped the other direction.

I made some comments about Zach being scum early on because I find the way he responds to even minor suspicion helpful in reading him. That's part of what I'm talking about when I say I feel like I know some of his habits.
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By the way, Eaed has rocketed up to among my scumreads. Getting back on computer to pull up why.

My list of people who don't look good are Panth, Sultan, Tange, and IGCD.

My list of people who worry me are eaed, red, and to a lesser extent, Leo.

Zach has seemed really Scummy to me, but this I have said already.

Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

This appears after a bit of an extended absence, but it still feels quite weird that Panth's soft suspicion of Zach suddenly went cold turkey and flipped the other direction.

I made some comments about Zach being scum early on because I find the way he responds to even minor suspicion helpful in reading him. That's part of what I'm talking about when I say I feel like I know some of his habits.

So what you're saying is you plopped him on a shortlist a la rule of 3, but after seeing the stance he took vs Zam, decided it was time to push him as obvTown to be your Scum champion (like he was in PW mafia?)

Got it.
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Alakazam voted scum first thing last game I believe as scum, fwiw.
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I think the twilight period idea is interesting, but man have some of these posts been hard to get through.

Zams flip is going to tell us quite a bit. If he is a decent power then some of the people who sloppily protected him are probably scum instead of bad town.

If I die I would look at reactions of the claim before the counter.

If he is power look for people who buy him instantly with a shoddy reason (not those who give no reason, but rather feel obligated to give a reason)

If he is vanilla look for people who doubt him for little or no reason in an effort to look like they are bussing. Remember if someone lynches correctly every day they are scum not town.

Anyways if I die N1 again toodles
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EDumey posted...

Speak my name and I shall be summoned. Just got back reading last page or two.

sca

sca sca sca

scu

scummon!>!

SCUMMON!?

*faints*
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