Board 8 > Chris Music Mafia 3: Intermission

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masterplum posted...

Zams flip is going to tell us quite a bit.

oof
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Ugh, Zam's "walls" hurt to read. I take the extra time to format mine for readability. His posts 198, 202, 206, 207, 208 and 210 are a jumbled mess of seemingly irrelevant quotes and barely sensical replies. Please tell me my posts do not look like that.

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Alakazamtrainer posted...[D1, T1, P208]

EDumey posted...
aren't there only like 6 or 7 votes out of 22 on the table right now?

##Vote: Edumey

Third time I've seen something scummy from you, I let it pass twice but this is counting votes at its finest.

Looking through zam posts this feels like it has the potential to be significant. We already know Zam is particularly feckless as scum based on his reluctance to have even 3 votes on Corrik. Is scum zam showing initiative here trying to 'build a case' against town dumey? Or is this similar to his early corrik vote last game that was scum on scum?

And on the face of it I can't even understand what Zam is trying to accuse dumey of. "Counting votes"? He is saying that a lot of people haven't put a vote anywhere yet, and that is being interpretted as what? Dumey trying to figure out how many votes are needed for scum to hammer? Did Zam think today was MyLo? But regardless of whatever illogic zam was employing, do we think Zam goes this "hard" against town? I have my doubts.

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htaeD posted...[D1, T1, P212]

+1 for death, again making decent points.

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You realize said decent point leans on you being suspect, right?

I legitimately face palmed. "Those are some nice points, I am scummy!".

I for one hope Zam is not being serious about quitting the game. His play is infuriating to me, but I think the community would benefit to have him stay and (hopefully) improve over time.

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Crescent-Moon posted...[D1, T1, P303]

The only reason I don't want to immediately murder Scare right now is that he's been this grievously wrong and stubborn about me before based on very little reasoning while more or less ignoring everything else I said in a game before.

It was in the other Chris game that was already referenced. I was countertunneling him relentlessly for it because I expected town Scare to understand how I ticked and know my actions that game would never have come from my scum play.

And just to clarify... scare was town in that game where he was stubbornly focused on you? You implied that he was but I wanted to be clear.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please tell me my posts do not look like that.

Well...
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Corrik posted...

Alakazam voted scum first thing last game I believe as scum, fwiw.

yes but it was you

he has no history with dumey, but its possible I am wrong there yes
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

So what you're saying is you plopped him on a shortlist a la rule of 3, but after seeing the stance he took vs Zam, decided it was time to push him as obvTown to be your Scum champion (like he was in PW mafia?)

Got it.

Are you really going with the logic that me calling someone town would help them be the scum champion? Really, honestly and truly suggesting I have that kind of power and influence?

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me!
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I took my kids to an amusement park yesterday so it took up my entire day. Its going to likely take most of my day today to catch up. I'll enjoy any summaries anyone is willing to offer! Otherwise, I'll be reading if anyone needs me!

This is only after Alakazam claimed scum and borderline ended the day.

eaedwards6400 posted...

It's so funny that I was going to come in and say that I think we should policy lynch Zam after just 2 pages and to find that he had indeed been killes/killed himself

This is him saying nothing.

eaedwards6400 posted...

I had only made it 2 pages and the thing that concerns me the most is Ben. Ben is a player that I often don't read well because he seems so bad. And in just 2 pages he calls himself "mafia God" and claimed doctor. Which is irony in two posts because a "Mafia God" wouldnt claim doctor and it irritated me as well.

Fluff response to being asked for more reads

eaedwards6400 posted...

When does twilight end? I'm afraid I'm going of posting past the limit

This is him going "Day ends soon, right?"

eaedwards6400 posted...

Oh geez. I thought it ended 15 minutes after the kill. I think an 8 hour twilight is too long.

This is his response to being told it doesn't.

(One more post)

A useless post 20 minutes later that I am getting quote block limited on.

Eaed more or less completely vanishes at this point, providing no content whatsoever.

He also seemed to want the Twilight to be short. Why? What other reason than to avoid contributing?

Corrik posted...

Sultan why do you think I am the best scum player on the board? lol

So you're confirming you are scum then?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please tell me my posts do not look like that.

Well...

I was literally just about to mention this. Taking notes is one thing. But commenting on every little bit instead of pruning for the important stuff just makes it look sloppy and non-committal.
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Corrik is the best Scum player on the board. He always helps Scum win, as Scum or Town.
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Corrik posted...

Scare is out for revenge

relevant to music mafia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq0W6ZYUVss" data-time="
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Panth, if that's how you read my post then I suggest you take some middle school level language arts classes.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, if that's how you read my post then I suggest you take some middle school level language arts classes.

I'm just trying to communicate on your level
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Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, if that's how you read my post then I suggest you take some middle school level language arts classes.

I'm just trying to communicate on your level

Meow!

HanOfTheNekos posted...

masterplum posted...

Zams flip is going to tell us quite a bit.

oof

Eh? Do we know his role?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please tell me my posts do not look like that.

Well...

cleaner but still frustrating to read

not as bad as WIGSWALLS though
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ScareChan posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Ok so... 2/3 of the posts over the 4 hours I was gone are Scare and Corrik ego fighting and I don't know what to make of it

Scare refresh me on some of your reads that aren't Corrik? I feel like things have gone off the rails to an extent

Han, Zach, and Puns (I think it was puns) likely town due to the autocorrect nonesense. Zam did something similiar last game and the people he mixed up were all town.

Dumey was his only vote, I feel town points for dumey

I dont know *any* of your views Cresent

would like to have you explain how you feel about people in the game right now
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EDumey posted...

But commenting on every little bit instead of pruning for the important stuff just makes it look sloppy and non-committal.

You think I comment on every little bit?

I make a point to read every single post, but I end up only commenting on maybe a handful of posts out of every hundred or so. I still try to keep track for my own sake when specific conversations occur so if I need to find them later for specific quoting I don't have to look through the whole thing, but generally I feel my approach results in my having a pretty solid retention of what's been said.

After I was dead last game and reading along there were a bunch of instances where someone would ask a question like "didn't someone bring up a point like this earlier or something". And everyone shrugs and says "I dunno". And I'm just screaming at my screen saying "YES, There was a WHOLE CONVERSATION about this already topic 3. Why does NO ONE remember?!".
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Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, if that's how you read my post then I suggest you take some middle school level language arts classes.

I'm just trying to communicate on your level

Yes, and it's showing that you don't have the basic skills to reach half of it.
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Panth, I don't actually want to be mean here, I'm just doing some verbal sparring.

That said, you know that what you said wasn't the way I meant it.
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ScareChan posted...

ScareChan posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Ok so... 2/3 of the posts over the 4 hours I was gone are Scare and Corrik ego fighting and I don't know what to make of it

Scare refresh me on some of your reads that aren't Corrik? I feel like things have gone off the rails to an extent

Han, Zach, and Puns (I think it was puns) likely town due to the autocorrect nonesense. Zam did something similiar last game and the people he mixed up were all town.

Dumey was his only vote, I feel town points for dumey

I dont know *any* of your views Cresent

would like to have you explain how you feel about people in the game right now

Then you haven't been paying attention, but what else is new?

I don't like Ben being so quiet, because I've never seen a Ben this disengaged before. I think Eaed is probably scum that tried to duck giving content. I think Zach is arrogant, naive town. I feel like Leo is trying too hard to look like he cares and it comes off as scummy. I am paranoid of Puns due to the PW Mafia link.

That's just off the top of my head.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Yes, and it's showing that you don't have the basic skills to reach half of it.

Yeah it takes a lot of practice to lower myself that much, I'm not used to it tbh
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ScareChan posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Please tell me my posts do not look like that.

Well...

cleaner but still frustrating to read

not as bad as WIGSWALLS though

while not as famous, i also remember peafwalls.
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Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?
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Also I feel like there is a legitimate possibility that Zam may have accidentally hinted knowledge that Plum is town.

Corrik posted...

Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?

Nope. Eaed. And I just posted it a bit ago.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, I don't actually want to be mean here, I'm just doing some verbal sparring.

That said, you know that what you said wasn't the way I meant it.

I'm actually serious in the sense that you should know better than to think as scum I would push anyone as "scum champion" like that, if I were scum and wanted to make a teammate look good I'd ignore them or tell them to bus me or call them scum with bad logic or something. My track record is nowhere near good enough for me calling someone town to actually make them look better.
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Just for reference I have posted most of what I just alluded to in the last 12 hours, which further proves Scare is continuing to ignore my posts while he shades me.

Panthera posted...

if I were scum

oof

And no, I simply mean it in terms of:

A. ColZach was a Scum member that you, as a Scumbuddy, would have on your light lists early on.
B. After his part in Zam's debacle, if all three of you are Scum, it would make sense to switch on that and push him as your Townread, as you have a solid reason for flipping on that, seeing as he looked better for his part in that.
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Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, I don't actually want to be mean here, I'm just doing some verbal sparring.

That said, you know that what you said wasn't the way I meant it.

I'm actually serious in the sense that you should know better than to think as scum I would push anyone as "scum champion" like that, if I were scum and wanted to make a teammate look good I'd ignore them or tell them to bus me or call them scum with bad logic or something. My track record is nowhere near good enough for me calling someone town to actually make them look better.

I feel like people put too much stock into day 1 vote patterns.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?

Nope. Eaed. And I just posted it a bit ago.

And I do find it curious that not only did you get the name I just said wrong but he continues to skate by unnoticed even when it's been brought up that he clearly avoided giving content.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, I don't actually want to be mean here, I'm just doing some verbal sparring.

That said, you know that what you said wasn't the way I meant it.

I'm actually serious in the sense that you should know better than to think as scum I would push anyone as "scum champion" like that, if I were scum and wanted to make a teammate look good I'd ignore them or tell them to bus me or call them scum with bad logic or something. My track record is nowhere near good enough for me calling someone town to actually make them look better.

I feel like people put too much stock into day 1 vote patterns.

Maybe later on in the game that's true, but surely not on Day 1?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?

Nope. Eaed. And I just posted it a bit ago.

And I do find it curious that not only did you get the name I just said wrong but he continues to skate by unnoticed even when it's been brought up that he clearly avoided giving content.

Is that why he is on my top scum tier with red and FD?
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EDumey posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Panth, I don't actually want to be mean here, I'm just doing some verbal sparring.

That said, you know that what you said wasn't the way I meant it.

I'm actually serious in the sense that you should know better than to think as scum I would push anyone as "scum champion" like that, if I were scum and wanted to make a teammate look good I'd ignore them or tell them to bus me or call them scum with bad logic or something. My track record is nowhere near good enough for me calling someone town to actually make them look better.

I feel like people put too much stock into day 1 vote patterns.

Maybe later on in the game that's true, but surely not on Day 1?

It's the day where players have the least information and are most prone to making rash decisions based on things like "gut". Like, I have a good example from my own past games. I tried to hammer town Chris over scum Pj mostly because town Dels who I read as town told me to do it and I was not exactly in a stable mindset at the time. (I was a second late, then didn't hammer him in tiebreaker when I realized he never voted Pj to begin with, though... So that worked out.)

There's a higher margin for player error on day 1 than any other day in the game, and I don't think it's really that close either.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

oof

And no, I simply mean it in terms of:

A. ColZach was a Scum member that you, as a Scumbuddy, would have on your light lists early on.
B. After his part in Zam's debacle, if all three of you are Scum, it would make sense to switch on that and push him as your Townread, as you have a solid reason for flipping on that, seeing as he looked better for his part in that.

Not woof, meow

Hard to say for sure but I don't think I would push a guy as a town read for staying on the claimed watcher before the counter claim.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like people put too much stock into day 1 vote patterns.

I'm not sure what this means in response to what I said
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Corrik posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?

Nope. Eaed. And I just posted it a bit ago.

And I do find it curious that not only did you get the name I just said wrong but he continues to skate by unnoticed even when it's been brought up that he clearly avoided giving content.

Is that why he is on my top scum tier with red and FD?

Where have you said this before? I don't recall anyone talking about him, really.

Corrik posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Didn't Crescent say she had something on EDumey?

Nope. Eaed. And I just posted it a bit ago.

And I do find it curious that not only did you get the name I just said wrong but he continues to skate by unnoticed even when it's been brought up that he clearly avoided giving content.

Is that why he is on my top scum tier with red and FD?

lol she's referencing Eaed. You still aren't reading her posts.
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That's fair.

BTW I claim Unwell by Matchbox 20.
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Panthera posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

oof

And no, I simply mean it in terms of:

A. ColZach was a Scum member that you, as a Scumbuddy, would have on your light lists early on.
B. After his part in Zam's debacle, if all three of you are Scum, it would make sense to switch on that and push him as your Townread, as you have a solid reason for flipping on that, seeing as he looked better for his part in that.

Not woof, meow

Hard to say for sure but I don't think I would push a guy as a town read for staying on the claimed watcher before the counter claim.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I feel like people put too much stock into day 1 vote patterns.

I'm not sure what this means in response to what I said

Correct. Meow > Woof.

What it primarily means is people meta the first day too often. Building a "scum champion" doesn't come from scratch.

Crescent-Moon posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

I took my kids to an amusement park yesterday so it took up my entire day. Its going to likely take most of my day today to catch up. I'll enjoy any summaries anyone is willing to offer! Otherwise, I'll be reading if anyone needs me!

This is only after Alakazam claimed scum and borderline ended the day.

eaedwards6400 posted...

It's so funny that I was going to come in and say that I think we should policy lynch Zam after just 2 pages and to find that he had indeed been killes/killed himself

This is him saying nothing.

eaedwards6400 posted...

I had only made it 2 pages and the thing that concerns me the most is Ben. Ben is a player that I often don't read well because he seems so bad. And in just 2 pages he calls himself "mafia God" and claimed doctor. Which is irony in two posts because a "Mafia God" wouldnt claim doctor and it irritated me as well.

Fluff response to being asked for more reads

eaedwards6400 posted...

When does twilight end? I'm afraid I'm going of posting past the limit

This is him going "Day ends soon, right?"

eaedwards6400 posted...

Oh geez. I thought it ended 15 minutes after the kill. I think an 8 hour twilight is too long.

This is his response to being told it doesn't.

(One more post)

A useless post 20 minutes later that I am getting quote block limited on.

Eaed more or less completely vanishes at this point, providing no content whatsoever.

He also seemed to want the Twilight to be short. Why? What other reason than to avoid contributing?

Just going to repost this, then.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Then you haven't been paying attention, but what else is new?

I don't like Ben being so quiet, because I've never seen a Ben this disengaged before. I think Eaed is probably scum that tried to duck giving content. I think Zach is arrogant, naive town. I feel like Leo is trying too hard to look like he cares and it comes off as scummy. I am paranoid of Puns due to the PW Mafia link.

That's just off the top of my head.

Yeah, I dont think you get a pass to just swing an attitude at me. stay in yo lane gurl

but thank you for reminded me on Leo. The few posts he made I remember one was very scummy so thanks or that
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I did not say "woof", I said "oof".

Panth misquoting me is VERY Scummy.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Just for reference I have posted most of what I just alluded to in the last 12 hours, which further proves Scare is continuing to ignore my posts while he shades me.

I posted my thouts in various extends of detail several times but I still said them *again* because you asked

and I have not even bothered with you since I got on Zam. There has been no shading since my vote left you, so try again
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I did not say "woof", I said "oof".

Panth misquoting me is VERY Scummy.

Meow

I have a question on bodyguard.

If say Scare is shot, and I guarded him.

And they have a second shot and they shot me.

And none are unblockable.

Are both killed or just me?
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Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I did not say "woof", I said "oof".

Panth misquoting me is VERY Scummy.

Meow

Purr.
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Corrik posted...

I have a question on bodyguard.

If say Scare is shot, and I guarded him.

And they have a second shot and they shot me.

And none are unblockable.

Are both killed or just me?

If I had to take a guess at that hypothetical scenario, probably just you. You would get shot twice, I think.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I did not say "woof", I said "oof".

Panth misquoting me is VERY Scummy.

Meow

Purr.

I'm not purring yet.

believe just the bodyguard because all shots resolve at the same time and they should resolve last
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Though a petting right now would be nice.

I guess I'll at least jot down my gut feelings before twilight ends

Could see scum team of like

Zam
Corrik
FD
red
Leo

Then someone I don't really notice or care about

Leaning more town on plum and pj, and panth I think.

I know my activity was kinda shit this day. Sorry, I just tried to keep myself from diving in too deep this game and then zam imploded and killed the day, didn't feel like messing with a day 1 when people can't even vote