Poll of the Day > Farmers moving towards financial ruin because of Trump's policies: ''MAGA!''

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McSame_as_Bush
08/08/18 6:59:23 PM
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I just...don't get it. It's the same thing with the coal minors -- Democrats run on providing retraining for minors since the coal mining industry is dying, and they're like nah we like black lung and are cool with our jobs disappearing thx very much.

It's why Democrats can't take anything for granted -- there are groups of people who will choose to vote against their own self-interests every time.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tariffs-farmers-soybeans_us_5b646da2e4b0de86f4a0c5f4
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Kyuubi4269
08/08/18 7:07:26 PM
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lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/08/18 7:09:18 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.
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Kyuubi4269
08/08/18 7:14:50 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

No formal negotiations, but he is putting pressure on them they'll want to resolve.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/08/18 7:17:52 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

No formal negotiations, but he is putting pressure on them they'll want to resolve.


Says who? No one has showed any inkling of backing down and countries like Canada and China have wildcards they could play that could hit us in ways we couldn't hit them.
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Kyuubi4269
08/08/18 7:19:40 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

No formal negotiations, but he is putting pressure on them they'll want to resolve.


Says who? No one has showed any inkling of backing down and countries like Canada and China have wildcards they could play that could hit us in ways we couldn't hit them.

Says logic? When circumstances become volatile, you want to stabilise them.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/08/18 7:22:58 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

No formal negotiations, but he is putting pressure on them they'll want to resolve.


Says who? No one has showed any inkling of backing down and countries like Canada and China have wildcards they could play that could hit us in ways we couldn't hit them.

Says logic? When circumstances become volatile, you want to stabilise them.


They're becoming pretty volatile here. Farmers are looking at bankruptcy and thousands across the country are being laid off. There are major elections in less than 100 days. Maybe we should stabilize.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/09/18 6:32:38 PM
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bump
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Lokarin
08/09/18 6:34:27 PM
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GanglyKhan
08/09/18 6:34:31 PM
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Fun-fact: Most corn is grown for livestock consumption.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/09/18 8:44:33 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Meanwhile: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pesticide/u-s-appeals-court-orders-epa-to-ban-pesticide-said-to-harm-children-idUSKBN1KU27X


Republicans are opposed, because brain-damaged children = future GOP voters.
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Lokarin
08/09/18 8:48:19 PM
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Maybe all that asbestos will help with the California fires... but don't built that wall out of it, it's cancerous
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KaptainKiro
08/09/18 9:10:08 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
there are groups of people who will choose to vote against their own self-interests every time.


we call them democrats
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Revelation34
08/09/18 9:44:04 PM
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You make this thread like every week now.
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ClarkDuke
08/09/18 10:10:14 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Lokarin posted...
Meanwhile: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-pesticide/u-s-appeals-court-orders-epa-to-ban-pesticide-said-to-harm-children-idUSKBN1KU27X


Republicans are opposed, because brain-damaged children = future GOP voters.

Until @Zeus can reproduce asexually, what other choices are available, ok?
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McSame_as_Bush
08/09/18 10:17:32 PM
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KaptainKiro posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
there are groups of people who will choose to vote against their own self-interests every time.


we call them democrats


How so?
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KaptainKiro
08/09/18 10:19:33 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Republicans are opposed, because brain-damaged children = future GOP voters.


its funny because importing uneducated 3rd worlders and offering them free shit is the dems current strategy
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McSame_as_Bush
08/10/18 1:12:56 AM
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KaptainKiro posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Republicans are opposed, because brain-damaged children = future GOP voters.


its funny because importing uneducated 3rd worlders and offering them free shit is the dems current strategy


Is that what Alex Jones told you?
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Rasmoh
08/10/18 1:36:05 AM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Is that what Alex Jones told you?


Democrats are constantly advocating for things like open borders and amnesty for illegals. They are also constantly advocating for things like free food, housing, healthcare, education, etc. It's not really hard to see.

Incidentally, things like open borders are exactly why things like higher minimum wage, free healthcare, and free education will never happen.

McSame_as_Bush posted...
Maybe we should stabilize.


The problem here is that by "stabilize" you mean go back to the same broken, unsustainable system that's gotten us to this point. Things need to change in a way that benefits us in the long term, not the short term.
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TheCyborgNinja
08/10/18 2:01:25 AM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

If he gets re-elected, everyone else should just tighten their belts and reduce trade with America. The world is too dependent on the US economy and that's bad.
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KaptainKiro
08/10/18 3:19:06 AM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
How so?


how is bringing over shitloads of cheap labor that lines the pockets of the wealthy while ruining shit for poor and middle class ppl in the best interests of all the poor dems that vote for illegals to swarm us lol

dems vote for policies that ensure the poor are reliant on welfare while making the rich richer
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Revelation34
08/10/18 4:33:23 AM
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KaptainKiro posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
How so?


how is bringing over shitloads of cheap labor that lines the pockets of the wealthy while ruining shit for poor and middle class ppl in the best interests of all the poor dems that vote for illegals to swarm us lol

dems vote for policies that ensure the poor are reliant on welfare while making the rich richer


The only cheap labor is jobs nobody wants in the first place. The real problem is outsourcing.
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MisterXiado
08/10/18 5:51:43 AM
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Yeah, who in their right mind would pick apples for $15 an hour? Americans aren't allowed, because of all of the fees and taxes required to hire Americans. If your workforce is undocumented, you don't have to wade through that red tape, and your employees don't have to worry about paying taxes, paying for medicare, or paying into social security! It's a win-win situation, unless you've already registered for selective service, acquired a driver's license, pay 25% of your gross income in taxes, and can't afford to move to a place that will pay better than poverty-level.
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Krazy_Kirby
08/10/18 7:29:01 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
KaptainKiro posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
How so?


how is bringing over shitloads of cheap labor that lines the pockets of the wealthy while ruining shit for poor and middle class ppl in the best interests of all the poor dems that vote for illegals to swarm us lol

dems vote for policies that ensure the poor are reliant on welfare while making the rich richer


The only cheap labor is jobs nobody wants in the first place. The real problem is outsourcing.


if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.
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KaptainKiro
08/10/18 12:08:45 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
The only cheap labor is jobs nobody wants in the first place.


jobs made wholly undesirable because companies would have to do things like provide competitive wages and benefits if they couldnt import swarms of uneducated 3rd worlders to do them lol
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The_tall_midget
08/10/18 1:22:31 PM
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Ouh, Huffington post, I wonder if it's going to be a feminist, soy boy, sjw, or left-leaning article!
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Revelation34
08/10/18 1:22:50 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.
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ClarkDuke
08/10/18 5:20:06 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?
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aDirtyShisno
08/10/18 6:43:23 PM
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We are farmers!

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!
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GastroFan
08/10/18 6:52:00 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?


I have a job that supposed 'no one' wants. The hours are lousy; the pay minimum wage, part time and no benefits. Most of the people who work with me are either retirees or semi-retired and American citizens who don't care if they get promoted or not which is fine since the only promotion you can get from my job is lateral. I wouldn't recommend my job to someone in their twenties since it has no future and no chance for advancement whatsoever. Most of the jobs these 'illegals' as people call them take are jobs that have no future, lousy hours, rotten pay and no benefits; if you think that, with 'illegals' gone, corporations will have to raise wages and such, you have another think coming. All the corporations will do is export any and all good paying jobs overseas. The only jobs left in the US will be the crappy jobs that can't be exported and they still won't offer any benefits or better pay because nobody cares, not the government, not the unions, nobody.
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KaptainKiro
08/10/18 8:55:06 PM
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GastroFan posted...
if you think that, with 'illegals' gone, corporations will have to raise wages and such, you have another think coming. All the corporations will do is export any and all good paying jobs overseas.


you are right

before we started importing slaves to do these jobs ppl didnt farm or build things or clean houses or anything like that.

also we would totally export everything because thats a reasonable option for a country of 300 million ppl

and way to put illegals in quotes like they arent actually illegal aliens
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OhhhJa
08/10/18 9:26:08 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work
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BlackScythe0
08/10/18 9:37:07 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
I just...don't get it. It's the same thing with the coal minors -- Democrats run on providing retraining for minors since the coal mining industry is dying, and they're like nah we like black lung and are cool with our jobs disappearing thx very much.

It's why Democrats can't take anything for granted -- there are groups of people who will choose to vote against their own self-interests every time.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tariffs-farmers-soybeans_us_5b646da2e4b0de86f4a0c5f4


Well with Miners they are convinced the only reason they are losing jobs is because of the EPA and democrats. They refuse to acknowledge automation and less easily accessible deposits. Even state level democrats run on this platform. Federal democrats coming in and talking about retraining get seen as condescending.

The farmers don't really have this kind of justification. They are being hurt directly to a policy that can't be attributed to any other source. So they are either willing to take one for Trump to beat the mexicans or they are upset that he is making bad decisions.
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Revelation34
08/11/18 2:42:35 PM
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OhhhJa posted...

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work


Mexican isn't a race.
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OhhhJa
08/11/18 3:06:41 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
OhhhJa posted...

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work


Mexican isn't a race.

I felt like it was more simple than typing out "brown people born below texas." I've worked with a lot of Hispanic people and I think most of them would be offended by white people saying that only they are willing to work shitty jobs
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Lokarin
08/11/18 3:09:21 PM
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How is Mexican not a race? They are clearly distinct from Spanish, Brazilians, and Portugese
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Kyuubi4269
08/11/18 3:15:47 PM
#37:


OhhhJa posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work

Nah, just nationals have to pay tax and don't live with 20 other people in a shed.
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Revelation34
08/11/18 3:25:55 PM
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Lokarin posted...
How is Mexican not a race? They are clearly distinct from Spanish, Brazilians, and Portugese


Lol.
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ClarkDuke
08/12/18 3:42:26 AM
#39:


OhhhJa posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work

You sound paranoid, breathe, ok?
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OhhhJa
08/12/18 1:42:38 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
OhhhJa posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work

You sound paranoid, breathe, ok?

Just an observation my dude
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ClarkDuke
08/13/18 3:50:35 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
OhhhJa posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
if farmers couldn't hire illegals then they would have to raise their minimum wages. people don't wan't to work for the dirt cheap wages they can get away with paying illegals.


No they just don't want to do those jobs.

No one else wants the jobs, but illegals, ok?

Translation: "White people are too good for these jobs. Only a lowly Mexican would want them"

This is the not so subtle racism of the left at work

You sound paranoid, breathe, ok?

Just an observation my dude

You did call them "brown people", bringing your summations on racism into question, ok?
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Lil69Leo
08/13/18 4:02:41 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
lol Even farmers in the middle of nowhere know that trade negotiations have their ups and downs.


There is no negotiation going on. Trump is pissing everyone off and things are moving in the wrong direction.

No formal negotiations, but he is putting pressure on them they'll want to resolve.


Says who? No one has showed any inkling of backing down and countries like Canada and China have wildcards they could play that could hit us in ways we couldn't hit them.

Says logic? When circumstances become volatile, you want to stabilise them.


We are stabilising them by trading away from the USA and it's moronic orange of a leader. Enjoy the shaft because you will be getting it for a long time.
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Lil69Leo
08/13/18 4:06:25 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Democrats are constantly advocating for things like open borders and amnesty for illegals. They are also constantly advocating for things like free food, housing, healthcare, education, etc. It's not really hard to see.

Incidentally, things like open borders are exactly why things like higher minimum wage, free healthcare, and free education will never happen.


Except these things have proven to help a country insurmountably. It's basically what every first world country is built upon.

KaptainKiro posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
How so?


how is bringing over shitloads of cheap labor that lines the pockets of the wealthy while ruining shit for poor and middle class ppl in the best interests of all the poor dems that vote for illegals to swarm us lol

dems vote for policies that ensure the poor are reliant on welfare while making the rich richer


Lol yes it's Dems who vote and import the cheap labour, not people like Trump who has proven to hire them and give tax breaks to the rich that the GOP all voted for while screwing everyone else. Yeah that free college and healthcare is totally a republican thing. Damn making poor people educated and healthy, that will keep them on welfare.
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Lil69Leo
08/13/18 4:07:36 AM
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Lokarin posted...
How is Mexican not a race? They are clearly distinct from Spanish, Brazilians, and Portugese


Literally none of these are races.
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Revelation34
08/13/18 2:14:26 PM
#45:


Lil69Leo posted...
Except these things have proven to help a country insurmountably. It's basically what every first world country is built upon.


Literally no country was ever founded on free food.
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KaptainKiro
08/18/18 12:48:24 AM
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got modded for negatively generalizing dems in a topic that negatively generalized repubs. gf moderator system is so hilariously biased lol
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The_tall_midget
08/18/18 4:43:40 AM
#47:


KaptainKiro posted...
got modded for negatively generalizing dems in a topic that negatively generalized repubs. gf moderator system is so hilariously biased lol


Be very, very careful.

There are a LOT of pathetic sjw's around. Tends to happen to places with a lot of poor folks who believe that they have a right to other people's money.
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Rasmoh
08/18/18 7:28:10 AM
#48:


KaptainKiro posted...
got modded for negatively generalizing dems in a topic that negatively generalized repubs. gf moderator system is so hilariously biased lol


The_tall_midget posted...
There are a LOT of pathetic sjw's around. Tends to happen to places with a lot of poor folks who believe that they have a right to other people's money.


GameFAQs is widely renowned for left-wing bias, unfortunately.
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OhhhJa
08/18/18 5:18:32 PM
#49:


Rasmoh posted...
KaptainKiro posted...
got modded for negatively generalizing dems in a topic that negatively generalized repubs. gf moderator system is so hilariously biased lol


The_tall_midget posted...
There are a LOT of pathetic sjw's around. Tends to happen to places with a lot of poor folks who believe that they have a right to other people's money.


GameFAQs is widely renowned for left-wing bias, unfortunately.

Yeah. And they're also delusional enough to claim that the board is overrun with nazis
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