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turbopuns2 posted...

Now I wish Corrik was here to be like "let's just hammer panth and move on"

<_>

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ScareChan posted...

Fuck you is in game?

Ok

With a smiley face it is
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Gut read: death is scum.
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pjbasis posted...

Gut read: death is scum.

Which part are you reading

Good evening. I'm caught up but was reading a bit quickly since this is my only time available to post for a few hours.

So first things first, a question for Han. At what point did you start being convinced MZero was scum?

Second of all, Sultan claiming second bodyguard is really bizarre, first instinct is that that can't be true, second instinct is that there's no way he'd make that up as scum, third instinct is that he's scum and his team encouraged him to go through with it because it would seem too crazy for a newbie to fake. Then I try to think of why the scum team wouldn't be able to come up with a better fake night 1 action than targeting me, and I'm coming up blank. Then I think that two bodyguards, a jailkeeper and a jack with a doc save seems like a lot of protection, especially if there haven't been any scum kills blocked. So...to sum it up, I think the argument for him being scum is a bit stronger than the argument for him being town, but it's not conclusive.

Third, I don't remember PJ very well beyond that he's rarely very active, but I kind of feel he'd put in a bit more effort as scum here? Like just outright saying he's aware he's doing very little and is cool with it seems like something pretty easy to avoid saying as scum, so I wouldn't put much stock in it being a sign of him being scum.

IGCD has been noted for going under the radar and then promptly continued to go under the radar, and he was oddly defensive earlier when Han called him scum. That kind of caught my eye, would lean to scum on him.

Also

turbopuns2 posted...

Really? Come, now. I'd have been like WOW FD you are my HERO what a fucking BALLER.

But nah, he was more like "oh...I guess I have to keep posting, huh."

I was done playing, wasn't even planning on continuing to read the game. Decided it would be nice to devote the time I would have been spending on mafia to other fun stuff instead. Then I saw the topic had been bumped, took a look, and discovered I was still obligated to play a game I was content to never think about again. So yeah, enthusiasm is a little lower than it might otherwise be.
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Panthera posted...

I was done playing, wasn't even planning on continuing to read the game. Decided it would be nice to devote the time I would have been spending on mafia to other fun stuff instead. Then I saw the topic had been bumped, took a look, and discovered I was still obligated to play a game I was content to never think about again. So yeah, enthusiasm is a little lower than it might otherwise be.

Yep.

That might as well be a confession as far as I'm concerned.

You know you have my support in killing Panthera. And Sultan, i'd be incredibly surprised if he was faking body gaurd. Much more so than I would be to find out there's 2 bodyguards in the game. As scum why does he even ask town if it's weird to have 2 of the same role? He was clearly looking to see if he should counterclaim corrik. If he wanted that info to see if it was possible to fake a second body gaurd, he'd be asking his scum team
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*as for sultan.
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I took a nap and nothing happened what the heck guys
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Welp I came back later than expected.

Current Votals

Current Votals (Last vote #77)

[4] - PJ - (Puns), IGCD, Scare, Eaed, Sultan
[3] - Panth - Tony, Zach, Puns
[3] - MZero - Han, Tange, Crescent, (Sultan)
[1] - Han - MZero
[0] - Sultan - (Scare), (IGCD), (puns), (Eaed)
[0] - Red - (IGCD), (Sultan)
[0] - Edumey - (Crescent)
[0] - Scare - (Sultan)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends 11:00 PM EDT on Friday.

Also 498? Come on guys, give more room for the anti-purge bumps D:
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And Panthera are you saying that you were not at all rejuvenated at the thought that you would Mason with Tony and possibly get yourself confirmed town today?
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turbopuns2 posted...

That might as well be a confession as far as I'm concerned.

I had zero reason to even care about this game. Then FD made it so I would have to actually dedicate time and effort to it again. If you can't tell why that would be an enthusiasm drain regardless of alignment or circumstance, I don't know what to tell you.
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Panthera posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

That might as well be a confession as far as I'm concerned.

I had zero reason to even care about this game. Then FD made it so I would have to actually dedicate time and effort to it again. If you can't tell why that would be an enthusiasm drain regardless of alignment or circumstance, I don't know what to tell you.

If that is it all true then why did you fight to keep yourself alive at all? All the way up to the end of day you did. How does the desire to win suddenly go away at that moment?
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I can absolutely see why it would be an enthusiasm drain.

And then the circumstance responsible for the enthusiasm drain was completely and utterly undone. Reversed. Nullified. Lifted.

Yet you remained unenthused?

To the point you are still dejected, have done close to zero pressuring or probing today. You've just mostly answered questions, and you haven't voted even.

And you also defaulted to assuming town blocked you.

I mean, if you're town, sorry bout cha. But can you recognize that every single aspect of your behavior and attitude today is aligned with how scum would feel and act? Like every single part of your play has, in my view, had no distinction from a scum mindset.

benjamin3740 posted...

And Panthera are you saying that you were not at all rejuvenated at the thought that you would Mason with Tony and possibly get yourself confirmed town today?

Pretty much. I mean, first off I knew there was a very good chance Eaed would jailkeep me so it wouldn't matter. Second, and more importantly, the point is that I stopped caring when I made my last post, and now I'm having to push myself to care again about a game I specifically decided to not even continue reading because I didn't want to think about it anymore. So I'm cool with playing right now, but I'm not exactly hyped up about it. It's not something that the content of the game really affects.
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Like you realize it was your last string of posts that convinced FD to lawyer you? And when you saw him say "Panthera convinced me" you didnt feel a sense of accomplishment at all....? ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE
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benjamin3740 posted...

If that is it all true then why did you fight to keep yourself alive at all? All the way up to the end of day you did. How does the desire to win suddenly go away at that moment?

Because like I said when people kept accusing me of giving up, giving up = not playing to win, and I don't sign up to games just to give myself a chance of undermining the competitive nature of them. Same reason I'm still trying to think about it now, even if my enthusiasm is low - I signed up for this game, and I would be pissed at myself if I didn't put in the effort.

turbopuns2 posted...

I can absolutely see why it would be an enthusiasm drain.

And then the circumstance responsible for the enthusiasm drain was completely and utterly undone. Reversed. Nullified. Lifted.

Yet you remained unenthused?

To the point you are still dejected, have done close to zero pressuring or probing today. You've just mostly answered questions, and you haven't voted even.

And you also defaulted to assuming town blocked you.

I mean, if you're town, sorry bout cha. But can you recognize that every single aspect of your behavior and attitude today is aligned with how scum would feel and act? Like every single part of your play has, in my view, had no distinction from a scum mindset.

Being alive doesn't change the fact that before I knew I would still be alive, I had decided "welp, fucked that one up, time to move on from this". And I have been asking questions and trying to think things through today, I haven't had much time yet today but I was around last night, I'll be around tonight and I'll be playing. People mostly haven't addressed things I've said that don't pertain to myself ever since the train on me started yesterday, and I'd be lying if I said I'm not changing my habits of pressure a little out of the knowledge that until I die, me pushing a lynch will probably make people think that person is less likely to be scum, not more, since the assumption is I'm scum looking to take people down with me.

I defaulted to assuming town blocked me because I'm not a moron <_< Why would scum even bother blocking me? They'd know Eaed probably would do it for them, and even if he didn't a good chunk of the game would assume I was just some sort of scum mason thingy anyway. Absurd to think scum would block me instead of Tony.

The problem with what you're saying is you're assuming that because I'm not super excited, I must be scum. Well, how do you think I would feel as scum here? I would have gotten out of a sure fire lynch, and sure my buddy Leo died but at least I have a chance and based on how the early votes have gone, it would look like a strong effort today could push people to decide to let me test the mason recruit thing out. I'd be hyped...unless, of course, I'm the type of person who would lose a lot of hype over surviving a sure lynch. For this to be my scum mindset requires that it be my town mindset. It's personality, not alignment.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Like you realize it was your last string of posts that convinced FD to lawyer you? And when you saw him say "Panthera convinced me" you didnt feel a sense of accomplishment at all....? ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE

I didn't even see that post until later. I made my last post, closed the tab and intended to ignore all things mafia for a long, long time until seeing several posts had been made past the deadline made me curious about what happened.
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Alright well Panth since I've said all that can really be said on the matter, and there is no use in going round after round over it, I will offer you a deal.

Convince me any one player in the game is scum and I'll give fair consideration to voting them instead. I won't hound you any more.

##unvote

But if you do not convince me, it's going right back.

Ugh i think i didn't even bother with this question because panth seemed like obv roleblocker yesterday...

Panth, does your mason ability even confirm you as town?

Because in my head, your obviously scum, but the right play gameplay wise, is to let you live and prove it.

But that still leaves open a big huge trap.

benjamin3740 posted...

Also I hate to get into IGCD's personal life, but this doesn't strike me as his town persona at all. Would you say you're more aggressive as town, IGCD? I saw you mention Terra's absence as a reason you're not getting into any heated arguments, but I feel like even without Terra you draw enough attention as town for most players to be trying to lynch you day 1.

No, I dont feel that way at all. I dont stay consistent in my play because I dont like being read as town,(by that i mean i dont like when people call me town in games whether I am scum or town) as it usually takes my drive away because I feel like I have accomplished all I need to to make it to end game. I need to feel pressured or see something to pounce in so I can take a ball and run with it. My sporadic posting has made that hard because things I dont like are getting called out before I can get to them.
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turbopuns2 posted...

pjbasis posted...

Gut read: death is scum.

Which part are you reading

Death is someone who's gotten virtually no mention from anyone, so I'm curious where this comes from.

Good evening everyone. Ive been in a perpetual state of behind for about twenty hours so I apologize.

I still want to lynch Panth, tbh. It seems safe and hes reminding me of Puns mafia.

I really enjoyed reading Mzero vs Hans. I think theres a lot there to be read from not only the two of them but everyone who spectated. Hans there certainly didnt remind me of PW mafia (which he has admitted) and to be quite honest I stopped paying attention in Blade mafia after I died.

Crescent one or two or more too many times has made a post that made me say this isnt decisive. Not a scum read, and maybe Im reading too much into stuff.

Sultan seems mad. For someone so wholesome in the last game, hes either very good at putting on a fake persona or is genuine angry town.

turbopuns2 posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Vote PJ. I dont even know why someone signs up for the game if they're going to act this way. To admitting to being lazy because "he smoked too much"

Ed, no. Do not go down this line of thought.

Yes I know I said I would spite lynch pj. The fact is, he is a lazy stoner. He recognizes this.

Yes he could be scum, but since we have virtually zero evidence against him, chances are better that he's town, and what happens if we lynch pj today and he flips town?

I'll tell you what: jack squat. We just burn a mislynch and learn absolutely nothing. And also if he's town, hopping on this pj train is an incredibly safe and easy play for scum to make today. Because all they have to say is "yep, he's done nothing" and then nobody can really hold it against them.

I know it's tempting and I resent the ever-living fuck out of him, but it's just a foolish play.

Very good point.

I am unvoting because I feel like I am still on PJ, and I dont like that now he is actually gaining steam as a lynch candidate because of this point.

##Unvote
##Vote:Red
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Panthera posted...

IGCD has been noted for going under the radar and then promptly continued to go under the radar, and he was oddly defensive earlier when Han called him scum. That kind of caught my eye, would lean to scum on him.

Defensive? I said his lack of reasoning discredits his suspicion.
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Man, I was really hoping more people would chime in on me and MZero's chat. Before I reveal the GRAND FINALE, can I get a few more opinions from the peanut gallery on their thoughts on MZero and I?

Zach, I appreciate you reading and commenting on it, but you didn't really say toooo much of consequence. Got any clear idea from it?

Also, I'm sorry, but remind me why we were so eager to buy eaed? Did he block Corrik n1 while Tony was also blocked, or something? I feel like there's a good reason but I can't remember it specifically at the moment.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Panthera posted...

IGCD has been noted for going under the radar and then promptly continued to go under the radar, and he was oddly defensive earlier when Han called him scum. That kind of caught my eye, would lean to scum on him.

Defensive? I said his lack of reasoning discredits his suspicion.

Doesn't matter if it's discredited because I'm right :O
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Done with dinner and errands, I'll be around for a bit. But I'm probably gonna play some MonHun: World here in a minute.

turbopuns2 posted...

what is your name

what is your quest

what is your favorite color

Dumey
To hunt scum
Blue

This game is easy.

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For actually relevant content, neither Crescent or Scare responded to my question regarding whether Crescent normally crusades for inactives in other games. (post #444 in previous topic) Does anyone know this answer?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Man, I was really hoping more people would chime in on me and MZero's chat. Before I reveal the GRAND FINALE, can I get a few more opinions from the peanut gallery on their thoughts on MZero and I?

Zach, I appreciate you reading and commenting on it, but you didn't really say toooo much of consequence. Got any clear idea from it?

Also, I'm sorry, but remind me why we were so eager to buy eaed? Did he block Corrik n1 while Tony was also blocked, or something? I feel like there's a good reason but I can't remember it specifically at the moment.

As far as you and Miz, I would back Miz because he was making effort way before you were and it took him coming after you for you to even make an effort. I dont trust self preservation as much as I trust unsolicited effort.
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ColZach posted...

Sultan seems mad. For someone so wholesome in the last game, hes either very good at putting on a fake persona or is genuine angry town.

You stopped paying attention as soon as you died, huh.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Also, I'm sorry, but remind me why we were so eager to buy eaed? Did he block Corrik n1 while Tony was also blocked, or something? I feel like there's a good reason but I can't remember it specifically at the moment.

Yeah, this is why.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

ColZach posted...

Sultan seems mad. For someone so wholesome in the last game, hes either very good at putting on a fake persona or is genuine angry town.

You stopped paying attention as soon as you died, huh.

Doesnt mean I didnt see his wholesome demeanor post game

And Han, you made a good argument, but before you get my review of your show dont you want me to see the ending?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Man, I was really hoping more people would chime in on me and MZero's chat. Before I reveal the GRAND FINALE, can I get a few more opinions from the peanut gallery on their thoughts on MZero and I?

Zach, I appreciate you reading and commenting on it, but you didn't really say toooo much of consequence. Got any clear idea from it?

Also, I'm sorry, but remind me why we were so eager to buy eaed? Did he block Corrik n1 while Tony was also blocked, or something? I feel like there's a good reason but I can't remember it specifically at the moment.

Its a fair read by Colzach on me, though. I rarely have decisive reads, and yesterday was more an outlier than anything. Especially Leo. I'm more about needling people until they satisfy me than about tunneling.

Not that he was decisive himself in judging it, but it's true. Though question to Zach; what's reminding you of Puns Mafia Panthera?

Eaed claimed jailer at the drop of a hat for basically no reason and is responsible for two known double roleblocks, so scum either has back to back double roleblocks, or he's town. Not particularly worried about him.

Like I guess Panthera could be scum lying to "help" Eaed but it sounds totally unnecessary and complicated to keep up.

Might be a silly question eaed being called town mvp in the opening does that guarantee he is actually town?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Might be a silly question eaed being called town mvp in the opening does that guarantee he is actually town?

no
it's a meme
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Might be a silly question eaed being called town mvp in the opening does that guarantee he is actually town?

This was already explained to be based off of PW Mafia early in the game.

Also I feel better right now than I expected to, so I'll be around for a little while.

EDumey posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Might be a silly question eaed being called town mvp in the opening does that guarantee he is actually town?

no
it's a meme

Well shit I should have been paying more attention to him then that totally threw me off

Can someone sum up eaed. I know yesterday was alot of swearing but thats about it
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ColZach posted...

Doesnt mean I didnt see his wholesome demeanor post game

I disagree, but im too tired to properly recap how he taunted Town on the last day.

He was never pushed at all, because we (I count myself as one of the most frequent people to say it) Town confirmed him by the assumption he didnt get modkilled (which was a mistake), so I dont take him getting angry as a Town tell, i take it as a first time Ive ever been pushed tell, and its null at best.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

ColZach posted...

Doesnt mean I didnt see his wholesome demeanor post game

I disagree, but im too tired to properly recap how he taunted Town on the last day.

He was never pushed at all, because we (I count myself as one of the most frequent people to say it) Town confirmed him by the assumption he didnt get modkilled (which was a mistake), so I dont take him getting angry as a Town tell, i take it as a first time Ive ever been pushed tell, and its null at best.

I want taughting town but okay thats fair scare wanted to push so I pushed back cuz why not?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

EDumey posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Might be a silly question eaed being called town mvp in the opening does that guarantee he is actually town?

no
it's a meme

Well shit I should have been paying more attention to him then that totally threw me off

Can someone sum up eaed. I know yesterday was alot of swearing but thats about it

Eaed's claim speaks more than his actions, and I just summed his claim up.

Okay so still not a whole whole lot to go off of then
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ColZach posted...

And Han, you made a good argument, but before you get my review of your show dont you want me to see the ending?

Because you asked, I'll wait on you. But I want like... a couple more peoples' opinions.

Notably, puns, and I guess Death? Maybe Tony as well.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I am unvoting because I feel like I am still on PJ, and I dont like that now he is actually gaining steam as a lynch candidate because of this point.

Can you rephrase?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well shit I should have been paying more attention to him then that totally threw me off

You thought Chris...confirmed someone town in the opening player list of the game?

I suppose you also believed Zam could be autocorrected to Han? Because those two things are right next to each other.

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Also Puns, last game i cast suspicion on Sultan and he responded very aggressively to that. Im not so sure he play this game has been so different.

Im actually getting to take my breaks DURING my shift today instead of after so ill look into that.
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##Unvote
##Vote: Panth
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pjbasis posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I am unvoting because I feel like I am still on PJ, and I dont like that now he is actually gaining steam as a lynch candidate because of this point.

Can you rephrase?

I was ok with lynching you as an inactive but puns point about burning a possible mislynch early for something that gives us no information is not a good idea.
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