Board 8 > I'm playing Snake Eater HD on the 360 *Spoilers*

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its been a long while since I played a Metal Gear game

but uh, I don't remember having a free range camera!

Its actually making me disoriented!

Usually you just go up, I don't know what direction on facing right now!
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Punnyz posted...

its been a long while since I played a Metal Gear game

but uh, I don't remember having a free range camera!

Its actually making me disoriented!

Usually you just go up, I don't know what direction on facing right now!

The camera change was added in Subsistence, the PS2 rerelease that also included Metal Gear 1&2 and the first rendition of Metal Gear Online. I believe you can click the right stick to change the camera back to the overhead perspective.
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Metal Gear Online was really fun. Cardboard boxes somehow worked on live players, no one would stop to check on you
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Yeah, if you only played the original MGS3, then it didn't have a free range camera. That was added in Subsistence because the traditional top-down camera didn't really work in a more wide-open environment.
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I could've sworn the controls were pressure sensitive

I sometimes pull out my gun and want to put it away but its not doing it
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LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, if you only played the original MGS3, then it didn't have a free range camera. That was added in Subsistence because the traditional top-down camera didn't really work in a more wide-open environment.

it worked for me!
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The controls are pressure sensitive on CQC

get ready to accidentally slit a lot of throats
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Doesnt 360 not have analog face buttons? So pressure sensitivity would be not so much a thing in that version?
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huh

I thought if you pull out your gun, and then slowly let go of the button, it put it away

then again its been ages since I've played this
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JonThePenguin posted...

Doesnt 360 not have analog face buttons? So pressure sensitivity would be not so much a thing in that version?

ohhh wait

you're right lol

then...how do I put away a gun or do CQC

well I guess I better hit up The Boss
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A quick google suggests that clicking the left stick is the new put-your-gun-away button since 360 doesnt have pressure-sensitive face buttons.
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And for CQC I found this thread over on the board for the game:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/632696-metal-gear-solid-hd-collection/61083977

- Tap B for punch-punch-punch-kick combo.
- Hold B and any direction on the analog to CQC slam. (Mama Said...)
- Hold B without touching the analog to CQC grab.
- While holding B, press Y to slit throat. (Close Shave)
- While holding B, press the left analog button (push the stick down) to interrogate the enemy.
- While holding B, flick the analog in any direction and tap B to drop an enemy to the ground. (Doesn't knock them out immediately like the CQC slam)
- While holding B, move the analog to drag the enemy around.
- While holding B, hold square to aim and use the enemy as a human shield. You can also drag them and enter first person doing this.
- While holding B, tap B repeatedly to choke and knock the enemy out. If you keep tapping B there after, you will snap their neck.
- Lastly, sneak up behind the enemy and aim your gun at them to hold them up. If you walk infront of them (holding LB to move around with the gun drawn) you can go into first person view and aim at their head/crotch to shake them down for items. (Like He Just Doesn't Care)

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okay so according to the boss, you choke them with the punch button

Clicking the left stick interrogates them

DOUBLE clicking slits their throats

okay, thats alot better than holding punch slightly and then holding it hard to kill them
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oh lol yall didn't have to search it
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The original camera is brilliant and people just didn't get it

But in the new version it can be helpful to switch to the free camera here and there for some extra views
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Punnyz posted...

oh lol yall didn't have to search it

Meh, its a slow night at work, I had nothing better to do. =P
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I almost forgot how amazing the Snake Eater song is
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It's just an utterly glorious game

It makes me ache with how good it is
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I found the shotgun during the virtuous misson

Was that always there? I don't remember being able to find it, I know it's a moot point since it gets taken away anyways but still
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XIII_rocks posted...

It's just an utterly glorious game

It makes me ache with how good it is

Indeed. This topic is making me want to hook up my PS3 and replay the whole series (or play for the first time in the case of...4 and everything thereafter).
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sometimes the game has two conversations ready for Paramedic depending on the situation

If you haven't eaten some food before calling Paramedic

or you've already eaten it before calling paramedic

but more often than not, theres actually a third option

if you've eaten it, the conversation just gets cut short, they didn't ready a conversation where snake comments on how it tastes. They sometimes only have a talk BEFORE snake eats it

kinda disappointing sometimes
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I only know about the shotgun in the cave...
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so right now I'm ...kinda challenging myself

I love 5 leeches on me and I'm just leaving them on

they drain stamina so its forcing me to eat alot more than I need to

I always get a full bag of food and never end up eating all of it so this is kinda fun
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Punnyz posted...

I love 5 leeches on me

well if that's your thing
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I seriously don't know how I ended up with "Love" when I meant "Got"
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wtf
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I've literally gone on youtube to watch multiple different playthroughs of this game because it is so good. One of the greatest pieces of art ever made.
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So before the mission, they said I had to meet up with Adam and Eva

I know Ocelot is Adam but was there a "real" Eva?

She didn't know the password because she was a chinese agent all along so if she WAS a mole, then she would've known, right?
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Punnyz posted...

So before the mission, they said I had to meet up with Adam and Eva

I know Ocelot is Adam but was there a "real" Eva?

She didn't know the password because she was a chinese agent all along so if she WAS a mole, then she would've known, right?

Not sure if you want an actual spoiler answer here, but yes, there was. Eva reveals in the ending that the real Eva was also a main. A popular fan theory is that the real Eva is Raikov since his first name is similar to Eva (Ivan), but that's never been confirmed.
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ah okay thank you for clearing that up

Its been like, 10 years since I've played this game

I beat it like 7 times but that was in like, a 2 year time frame
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So I had my fight with Ocelot

He was REALLY hard

its starting to occur to me that the PS2 controller is what made me good at this game

I whip the gun out with the joystick and precision aim with the D Pad

I'm not getting this on the 360 controller lol

lining up shots is really hard
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so yea, found the shotgun in the cave. I remember that much

Fighting the Pain

I always used the shotgun to blow away his armor, I'm not even sure if theres any other way to fight him lol
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I sorta forgot to call my support to see waht they have to say about him

do they ever explain how he fucking controls bees?

I mean, I know nanomachines is usually the answer but they didn't exist at this point, right?
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You can also throw smoke grenades to scatter the hornets. Heck, you can even throw regular grenades in the water to splash water onto him, but yeah, the shotgun is the easiest way.
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The Pain controls them because he keeps a queen in one of his pouches or something like that.
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LeonhartFour posted...

The Pain controls them because he keeps a queen in one of his pouches or something like that.

This was the original explanation. MGSV later retconned it to be PARASITES but for real, fuck that.
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oh right I totally forgot about that

MGSV turned that into another NANOMACHINES
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MGSV retconned everything to be science or parasites except for the Sorrow, right?
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IIRC yes, at the very least The Sorrow is still actually supernatural.

The whole thing peeves me because all this pseudo-science does nothing to enhance anything that it's explaining. Like the borderline mystic nature of The End isn't made any better by saying his powers come from stuffing himself full of bugs. The entire Cobra Unit is cool because they're just weird people who can do weird things, they don't need to be anything more - honestly they feel diminished if you try to take their mysterious air away from them.
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well you had all these people complaining that MGS3 didn't explain them so this is what happens when people don't leave well enough alone

but you had to keep The Sorrow supernatural to explain MGS2 if nothing else
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*hasn't played MGSV*

WOOOOO
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Never play V

Ground Zeroes is cool though
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but I own both
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That doesn't change what I said
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Punnyz posted...

*hasn't played MGSV*

WOOOOO

Samesies!
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Don't listen to foolmo, MGSV is probably the 2nd best in the series.
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Don't listen to foolmo. MGSV isn't as good as any of the numbered ones, but it's still enjoyable to an extent.
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MGS3 > MGSV > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS1

Definitive.
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He'll see for himself when he plays it, no need to try to BS him (or yourself)

If you really must play it, I would recommend waiting a year or two after your MGS3 replay so that the comparison isn't so fresh in your mind
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MGS3 > MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > Games that are not as good
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