Poll of the Day > Making sexual harassment claims that are over 30 years old.

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darkknight109
09/27/18 2:25:41 AM
#151:


KrissVector posted...
#metoo absolutely plays a role and you are delusional if you think the #poundmetoo witch hunt isnt a stain on our society for everyone from men to actual sex abuse victims.

Do you have any sources showing that #MeToo is increasing the proportion of false accusations?

KrissVector posted...
Those had grounding and credence, Bretts has nothing but psychotic pro-human killing females trying to get him out.

Interesting hypothesis. Any evidence to back it up?

GreenKnight127 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17ICX5LYchc" data-time="

I don't watch Youtube videos posted in the middle of political discussions, so if you want me to take some point from it you'll have to make it yourself.
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Revelation34
09/27/18 4:24:35 AM
#152:


KrissVector posted...
#metoo absolutely plays a role and you are delusional if you think the #poundmetoo witch hunt isnt a stain on our society for everyone from men to actual sex abuse victims.

Here is the difference between your examples and Bretts situation. Those had grounding and credence, Bretts has nothing but psychotic pro-human killing females trying to get him out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="


darkknight109 posted...
I don't watch Youtube videos posted in the middle of political discussions, so if you want me to take some point from it you'll have to make it yourself.


All you need is the video title.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 4:30:19 AM
#153:


Revelation34 posted...
All you need is the video title.

Still not clicking on the link. If that's all I need, he can type it out himself.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 4:53:37 AM
#154:


darkknight109 posted...
I don't watch Youtube videos posted in the middle of political discussions, so if you want me to take some point from it you'll have to make it yourself.


Don't worry. It wasn't for you. It was for people who are actually contributing to the discussion ;)
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The_tall_midget
09/27/18 9:18:08 AM
#155:


KrissVector posted...
#metoo absolutely plays a role and you are delusional if you think the #poundmetoo witch hunt isnt a stain on our society for everyone from men to actual sex abuse victims.

Here is the difference between your examples and Bretts situation. Those had grounding and credence, Bretts has nothing but psychotic pro-human killing females trying to get him out.


They're too busy being sjw's and virtue signalers, as well as stupid, to realize that poundmetoo will not end well for their group of unhinged feminists and idiotic white knights.

They're made the mistake of starting to go after politicians/people who make the rules. So you can be sure that, if the republicans stay in power, that they'll start to slowly but surely do a cleanup among all the idiotic rights and privileges that have been given to the unhinged lunatics.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 4:49:37 PM
#156:


The_tall_midget posted...
They're too busy being sjw's and virtue signalers, as well as stupid, to realize that poundmetoo will not end well for their group of unhinged feminists and idiotic white knights.

It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.

The_tall_midget posted...
They're made the mistake of starting to go after politicians/people who make the rules. So you can be sure that, if the republicans stay in power, that they'll start to slowly but surely do a cleanup among all the idiotic rights and privileges that have been given to the unhinged lunatics.

You do realise that every single one of the accusations made so far has been made as a sworn statement to the Judiciary Committee under penalty of perjury, right? If any one of these women are found to have knowingly made up a story for the purpose of trying to derail Kavanaugh's nomination, they risk up to five years in federal prison.

There are already penalties for lying in something as high stakes as this and if any or all of the accusers are found to be fabricating their stories, they deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Of course, determining whether or not they're lying would presumably involve an investigation of some kind, so Republicans might want to get on that...
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Revelation34
09/27/18 5:05:38 PM
#157:


darkknight109 posted...
It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.


No SJW makes the world a better place.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 5:13:24 PM
#158:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx3pYvB6pR8" data-time="


Wow. She can't remember anything. This is what happens when you decide to wait 35 years to tell the public about an incident. Jesus.

And she never even gave the Washington Post her therapist's notes, she just "summarized" for the reporter what her therapist's notes said. At least that's what she remembers. Sorta. And the therapist's notes never mentioned Kavanaugh's name. All it mentioned was "four boys" in the room.

What a shit show.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 5:24:33 PM
#159:


Revelation34 posted...
No SJW makes the world a better place.

If you consider those groups "SJW", I guess you're saying that giving black people equal rights or women the opportunity to vote or gays the opportunity to, y'know, not get tossed in prison over who they love is making the world a worse place.

You do you, man. But those are kind of horribly shitty views, in my personal opinion.

GreenKnight127 posted...
This is what happens when you decide to wait 35 years to tell the public about an incident.

You going to actually respond to anything posted in your topic or just keep ignoring it if you don't actually have a good answer?
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 5:37:10 PM
#160:


darkknight109 posted...
You going to actually respond to anything posted in your topic or just keep ignoring it if you don't actually have a good answer?


What? You want me to reply to you?

If you actually made a good point or asked a direct question, I might consider it. Until then, I am kinda just ignoring you, mate. Sorry. Does that bother you? Am I obligated to reply to every sentence you type? Because I'm not obligated to you at all. You've made your positions clear. You've just been repeating yourself for days. There is no changing your mind about anything. So now I am simply updating this thread with stuff Ford actually says now that she's being questioned today. Should be fun.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 5:40:33 PM
#161:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDY-Ye58MBs" data-time="


She has the demeanor of a 14 year old girl. Her lawyer got real defensive real quick when asked about the polygraph. Fascinating stuff.
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KrissVector
09/27/18 5:53:51 PM
#162:


The_tall_midget posted...
KrissVector posted...
#metoo absolutely plays a role and you are delusional if you think the #poundmetoo witch hunt isnt a stain on our society for everyone from men to actual sex abuse victims.

Here is the difference between your examples and Bretts situation. Those had grounding and credence, Bretts has nothing but psychotic pro-human killing females trying to get him out.


They're too busy being sjw's and virtue signalers, as well as stupid, to realize that poundmetoo will not end well for their group of unhinged feminists and idiotic white knights.

They're made the mistake of starting to go after politicians/people who make the rules. So you can be sure that, if the republicans stay in power, that they'll start to slowly but surely do a cleanup among all the idiotic rights and privileges that have been given to the unhinged lunatics.


They are already starting to eat their own with this whole thing. One of the founders was ousted as "abusing" a 17 year old male. Which, no rational person thinks is abuse just because he was 17, yet SJWs aren't rational.

We live in a culture of victimhood. It is quite pathetic.
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Mead
09/27/18 6:07:20 PM
#163:


Every time tc posts in this topic he seems even more immature
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darkknight109
09/27/18 6:24:47 PM
#164:


GreenKnight127 posted...
If you actually made a good point or asked a direct question, I might consider it.

Like these?

"Haven't you spent most of the last few posts blathering on about how innocence can't be proved? What happened, did I change your mind?"

"Interesting hypothesis. What's your basis for saying this? [that the allegations were character smears]"

"I asked you after your last post what your basis was for calling these accusations "character smears" (a phrase you repeated in this post, in addition to calling these potential rape victims "bottom-feeders and hermit eels" in the next post), but you declined to respond.

This is your allegation, shouldn't you post some proof of it?"

"How can an investigation prove something if no investigators are called to conduct it?"

GreenKnight127 posted...
Am I obligated to reply to every sentence you type? Because I'm not obligated to you at all.

I mean, if you just want to scream at a wall, go ahead. I kind of assumed, since you were on a message board, you were actually looking to hold a conversation or debate of some kind.

GreenKnight127 posted...
There is no changing your mind about anything.

You do realise this is true of most people in a debate, yes?

The only time people typically change their minds during an argument is if they were uninformed going into it. Seldom does someone with all the facts do a complete reversal on their position.

GreenKnight127 posted...
So now I am simply updating this thread with stuff Ford actually says now that she's being questioned today.

*Been* questioned, you mean. Her testimony was over for hours by the time you started posting about it.

I'll also point out you're posting incorrectly and with zero context. Like when you said "she summarized the therapist's notes" - she said she did not remember whether she provided excerpts of the notes or just a summary. The Post clarified that she did, indeed, provide them with excerpts of the notes (and the fact that the notes did not explicitly name Kavanaugh was known since it was first reported; this is not something that came out today).

KrissVector posted...
One of the founders was ousted as "abusing" a 17 year old male. Which, no rational person thinks is abuse just because he was 17, yet SJWs aren't rational.

Random question, but in your little fantasy world how young do you have to be before it counts as abuse?

Just curious to know if should we be calling the police or something.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 6:40:02 PM
#165:


Mead posted...
Every time tc posts in this topic he seems even more immature


Well it's a good thing this topic isn't about me then, isn't it? lol
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 6:54:56 PM
#166:


darkknight109, none of those are actual questions. That's just you being an asshat. You aren't here to have a conversation. You are only here to virtue signal.

You also break down someone's posts into individual sentences and reply in pointless ways, and then you get butthurt when I don't reply to each sentence the way you replied to each sentence. I'm not your monkey that dances on command. I'll reply to you when I see something worth replying to. So far you are just repeating yourself. And you have been for days.

I made this topic to question the validity of allegations that are three decades old, conveniently timed around Kavanaugh's situation.

Trying to make it about me is just an exercise in desperation.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 6:56:32 PM
#167:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsE0jdk8FU" data-time="


Oh look. She refuses to give up the name of the only person who could maybe help corroborate her story. This comedy writes itself.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 7:19:13 PM
#168:


GreenKnight127 posted...
darkknight109, none of those are actual questions. That's just you being an asshat.

I mean, you made a pretty significant charge (that the accusers are all lying and this whole thing is a character smear); me asking you to substantiate your own argument is not, by any stretch of the imagination, "being an asshat". Not unless you consider having your views challenged to be a capital offence.

GreenKnight127 posted...
You aren't here to have a conversation. You are only here to virtue signal.

Believe me, if that was my intention my posts would be a lot shorter. There's no way I'd spend that much time putting together something that is, in essence, for looks.
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Mead
09/27/18 7:24:46 PM
#169:


GreenKnight127 posted...
Mead posted...
Every time tc posts in this topic he seems even more immature


Well it's a good thing this topic isn't about me then, isn't it? lol


It kinda is
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 7:31:48 PM
#170:


darkknight109 posted...
Believe me, if that was my intention my posts would be a lot shorter. There's no way I'd spend that much time putting together something that is, in essence, for looks.


So...what exactly are you here for?

What's your goal?

You started off just kinda fumbling with the burden of proof....and then you downgraded into nitpicking individual sentences from people to try and catch them slipping on arbitrary details.

My goal is to point out the power of allegations against men, regardless of evidence, regardless of time that has passed, and how the media runs with it for views.

It's the dangerous idea of being seen as guilty until proven innocent (which even the POTUS could see clear as day, and who has also been a victim of himself).

This situation is a very big deal, in my opinion, because it's testament to the climate we live in. And it's a climate that only benefits women.

She can accuse a man of anything. And then it's HIS job to clear his name.

That is beyond fucked up.

It is a disgusting side-effect of the #MeToo movement, which started off as an empowering movement with good intentions.....but degraded into a witchhunt.

And some people, like yourself, seem to think it's okay? Let them accuse a man of anything. Let the media slather headlines all over the planet that are clearly designed to question and destroy his character. It's totally okay. Because it's his job to prove the claims aren't true. Because "It's just a job interview!" after all.

I hope he sues Ford's ass. And I hope he gets the esteemed position he deserves.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 7:32:31 PM
#171:


Mead posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...
Mead posted...
Every time tc posts in this topic he seems even more immature


Well it's a good thing this topic isn't about me then, isn't it? lol


It kinda is


Nah. You just want it to be. It's about Kavanaugh, bud. Sorry to disappoint ^_^
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darkknight109
09/27/18 7:56:41 PM
#172:


GreenKnight127 posted...
So...what exactly are you here for?

What's your goal?

What's yours?

I'm here for a discussion on the matter, not to just yell my views at people and not bother listening to them in return.

GreenKnight127 posted...
You started off just kinda fumbling with the burden of proof....

Odd that you characterize it that way now, considering your first reaction to it was "I totally see where you are coming from, and I appreciate you wording much better than other people on this thread have." Have I got under your skin since then or something?

Also, that discussion happened around Post ~110. My first post in the topic was a good 70 posts earlier, so you've already missed a good chunk of what I've discussed.

GreenKnight127 posted...
My goal is to point out the power of allegations against men, regardless of evidence, regardless of time that has passed

"Regardless of time that has passed"? So, what, do rapists get a free pass if they don't get caught for 30 years? What if it's 20? 10? How long until the rapist gets his "get out of jail free" card?

You said earlier in the topic that you thought rapists were scum who deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. With that viewpoint, time shouldn't matter.

I can't understand this view. It's one thing to say you aren't convinced by the arguments against Kavanaugh, but to suggest that they *must* be fabricated because they're old is lunacy. Age makes people forget things, not flat-out make shit up.

GreenKnight127 posted...
It's the dangerous idea of being seen as guilty until proven innocent

Not sure how many times you want me to repeat this, but Kavanaugh isn't on trial, so he can't be declared guilty *or* innocent here. The senators - and the general public - just have to decide if they're confident enough that he didn't do it to allow him a seat on the Supreme Court; that's very different from saying they're sure enough that he did it to lock him away.

GreenKnight127 posted...
And it's a climate that only benefits women.

Women aren't the only victims of abuse and rape.

GreenKnight127 posted...
She can accuse a man of anything. And then it's HIS job to clear his name.

Anyone can accuse anyone else of anything, gender is not a factor. If you don't believe that, note that Kevin Spacey lost his job when several men came forward to say he'd sexually abused them. He hasn't been convicted of anything, to the best of my knowledge, but it still cost him his career.

As well it should. You said it best - rapists are scum.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 7:56:44 PM
#173:


GreenKnight127 posted...
And some people, like yourself, seem to think it's okay? Let them accuse a man of anything. Let the media slather headlines all over the planet that are clearly designed to question and destroy his character. It's totally okay. Because it's his job to prove the claims aren't true. Because "It's just a job interview!" after all.

You are once again, whether you realise it or not, making an excellent case for the FBI to step in and look into the allegations. The whole reason these allegations are getting media air time and have everyone talking is because no one else is doing the investigating. If I knew that the FBI was looking into the details, interviewing witnesses, examining finances, I'd be content to wait for the investigation to conclude, as more information may emerge. They're not, because the Republicans don't want them to (in and of itself, that's pretty fucking concerning, albeit not something that Kavanaugh himself has any control over).

If Kavanaugh is innocent, he deserves to have the doubt over him dispelled and the smear against his name proven false as conclusively as possible. If he's guilty, he deserves to be thrown in front of a court, not put in charge of an even bigger one. An FBI investigation can facilitate those outcomes. Whether you believe Kavanaugh is innocent and the women accusing him are all liars or whether you think he's a filthy fucking rapist, everyone should be completely behind the FBI looking into this and gathering what info they can, because that's our best bet at getting the truth to come out.

Oh, and one last thing on this point...

GreenKnight127 posted...
Let them accuse a man of anything.

This is prejudicial for one very specific, and very alarming reason: you're automatically assuming that Kavanaugh is innocent, to the point where you're not even entertaining the notion he might be guilty.

You're correct that I'm absolutely fine with a woman "accusing a man of anything" if he actually did it! And that's something neither of us know for certain yet, so to discount this and get all butthurt like you're doing is absolutely ridiculous - you could very well be slurring a rape victim!

That's the real hazard here. If you're such a big fan of "innocent until proven guilty", understand that you're assuming that Ford is guilty of perjury and making a false statement, both of which are crimes, and you're asking her to prove herself innocent.

That's exactly why I asked you to back up your assertion that this was a character smear earlier. If you have evidence - circumstantial or otherwise - that leads you to believe this is true, let's hear it.

You'll note that not once in this topic have I said, unequivocally, that Kavanaugh is a rapist and that the accusations are true. I have said that, based on what we know now, I personally think it's more likely than not that they're true, but I'm willing to change my mind if more information emerges that puts their veracity in doubt. Yet you have several times now declared Kavanaugh undeniably innocent, despite the fact that all the information is not known yet. That is simply wrong on so many levels and tells me you're not actually interested in evaluating the truth at all; you have apparently decided that because the accuser is a woman and the crime happened a long time ago, she must - she MUST - be lying.

If that is not the case, you should walk back your fervour a bit. Saying you don't think Kavanaugh did it is fine; saying he absolutely didn't do it and clearly deserves the Supreme Court seat is not.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 8:28:50 PM
#174:


It's not just a "job interview" anymore. It never was.

It's an interrogation.

He needs to defend himself. His character is on trial.

We can play the semantics game all day, but we both know what is happening to Kavanaugh.

What concerns me is whether or not voters will take that to heart.

As for your only real direct question to me that is even worth replying to:
"Regardless of time that has passed"? So, what, do rapists get a free pass if they don't get caught for 30 years? What if it's 20? 10? How long until the rapist gets his "get out of jail free" card? You said earlier in the topic that you thought rapists were scum who deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. With that viewpoint, time shouldn't matter.


By "rapists", you mean alleged rapists, right? Because THAT, right there, is where you and I seem to differ. You are jumping to the extreme by default. The assumption of guilt before proof of innocence. How many times have we been over this? This is why I don't like replying to you, man. We goin' in circlessssss....

Burden. Of. Proof.

There isn't a single person here who thinks rape is a good thing. There isn't a single person here who thinks convicted rapists shouldn't face the full extent of the law and rot in prison for years/decades/life.

Just because some woman says something might-have-sorta-kinda-happened 35 years ago.......doesn't mean the media should run with it like it's credible news. Anonymous sources shouldn't magically be making headlines. That isn't news. That's slander. Gossip. Click-baity character smearing. It's fake news. And, in my opinion, should be illegal. I mean, there ARE slander laws. But how they get enforced is a hot mess of free speech and clever little phrasings that editors have mastered over the years.

But to say that a woman's allegations against a man are not worthy of doubt or skepticism just because it's 2018 and it's only a "job interview".....is insulting to every man on the planet.

Such allegations are sue-worthy. This amount of unnecessary drama this has put him, his wife, and their children through, is just disgusting.

This whole thing has just been a calculated character smear. Conveniently timed to make voters quake in their boots and doubt his character.

"Do we really want a rapist on the Supreme Court!?"----What Democrats want everyone to be thinking right now.

It's not his job to prove he didn't do something. It's his accuser's job to prove that he did.

Until there is proof of guilt, there should be the default assumption of innocence.
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GreenKnight127
09/27/18 8:32:57 PM
#175:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nzg5Bf__V4" data-time="


Senator Graham knocked this shit out of the park.
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KrissVector
09/27/18 10:43:15 PM
#176:



Random question, but in your little fantasy world how young do you have to be before it counts as abuse?

Just curious to know if should we be calling the police or something.


This is exactly what I am talking about. A moron equating 17 to 7. Also showing he doesn't give two craps about consent. Ironic.

GreenKnight127 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nzg5Bf__V4" data-time="


Senator Graham knocked this shit out of the park.


Absolutely beasted.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 11:33:06 PM
#177:


KrissVector posted...
This is exactly what I am talking about. A moron equating 17 to 7. Also showing he doesn't give two craps about consent. Ironic.

So what's your number? 17 is too high, but 7 is too low. Can a 16 year old consent? A 10 year old?

The law is pretty clear on who it does and does not consider legally capable of giving consent, but I'm interested in hearing where your personal line is.

GreenKnight127 posted...
By "rapists", you mean alleged rapists, right?

No, I mean actual rapists. Not even talking about Kavanaugh with that post.

See, this is the thing - you've already made up your mind that Kavanaugh is innocent. The idea that Ford (and the other accusers) might just be telling the truth still hasn't dawned on you. You're not even allowing for that possibility.

With the text I quoted, you basically said that because the allegations are 30+ years old, they must be fictitious. But there's no way that that's remotely true - people *can* sit on allegations for years. Happens all the time. For instance, Jimmy Savile abused, molested, and raped literally hundreds of people - kids, teens, and young adults - over a 40 year career and not a single one of them came forward until after his death in 2011.

But what you've basically said is, "No, these allegations are too old, they must have no merit." As in, if a rapist manages to avoid getting caught for an arbitrary amount of time, they get a pass.

That's sick, dude.

GreenKnight127 posted...
Just because some woman says something might-have-sorta-kinda-happened 35 years ago.......doesn't mean the media should run with it like it's credible news. Anonymous sources shouldn't magically be making headlines. That isn't news. That's slander. Gossip. Click-baity character smearing.

What if it's true?

GreenKnight127 posted...
It's fake news.

Horse-fucking-shit it's fake news.

This right here is exactly what I'm talking about - you've automatically decided that there's no merit to this, despite the fact that we don't know that yet.

I fucking hate the fact that "fake news" has been adopted by conservatives to mean "any news I personally don't like". Fuck Donald Trump forever for taking a term about an actual problem - specifically, fly-by-night operations that were frequently fronts for hostile foreign governments (typically Russia) deliberately disseminating false information and fictitious stories to try and manipulate the outcome of foreign elections - and turning it into a smear he could use against legitimate news outlets reporting on actual news.

And no, contrary to your ridiculous characterization, a sex assault allegation against a Supreme Court nominee is not "gossip" or "click-bait"; that is news that people deserve to hear about and to judge on its merits, because it is something that could potentially affect the entire country.

GreenKnight127 posted...
And, in my opinion, should be illegal. I mean, there ARE slander laws. But how they get enforced is a hot mess of free speech and clever little phrasings that editors have mastered over the years.

First off, it's not slander if it's true. And right now that remains a very real possibility.

Secondly, the news stations are reporting this accurately. None of the reputable news outlets have said "Brett Kavanaugh tried to rape someone in the 80s"; they've said "Brett Kavanaugh has been accused of sexual abuse by three women". Which is 100% true and not slanderous at all.
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darkknight109
09/27/18 11:33:13 PM
#178:


GreenKnight127 posted...
But to say that a woman's allegations against a man are not worthy of doubt or skepticism just because it's 2018 and it's only a "job interview".....is insulting to every man on the planet.

When the fuck did I say anything that even remotely resembles that? Seriously, that is the complete opposite of what I've been saying in this entire topic.

GreenKnight127 posted...
Such allegations are sue-worthy. This amount of unnecessary drama this has put him, his wife, and their children through, is just disgusting.

It's only disgusting if it's untrue. Again, you're leaving open zero room for the possibility that these allegations have merit.

If they're untrue? Absolutely, Kavanaugh should sue these women for every penny they have and he should get confirmed by a solid margin.

But that's a big if. The FBI could help everyone out a lot in this regard by helping us get to the bottom of these allegations and determining if they have merit.

GreenKnight127 posted...
It's not his job to prove he didn't do something. It's his accuser's job to prove that he did.

So I'll return to my hypothetical:

Let's say you ran a daycare centre and someone wanted to come work for you and you did a background check and saw they had been investigated multiple times over the last five years for sexual abuse of children. Let's say, hypothetically, one of those investigations resulted in a charge and went to trial but the jury deadlocked (with 10 voters in favour of convicting, two against) and the case was never retried.

Would you hire them? After all, their guilt has not been proven.

GreenKnight127 posted...
Until there is proof of guilt, there should be the default assumption of innocence.

You realise this is not true even in all court cases, right?

If someone sues you for, say, sexual harassment and it doesn't involve a criminal charge (just civil damages), they do not need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the harassment occurred. Civil cases are based on "balance of probabilities", meaning they only thing they have to do is prove to a judge that their story is more likely true than yours.
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Revelation34
09/28/18 4:35:18 AM
#179:


darkknight109 posted...
If you consider those groups "SJW", I guess you're saying that giving black people equal rights or women the opportunity to vote or gays the opportunity to, y'know, not get tossed in prison over who they love is making the world a worse place.

You do you, man. But those are kind of horribly shitty views, in my personal opinion.


Maybe you should update your eyeglasses prescription so you can actually read what you quote.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 4:58:23 AM
#180:


Revelation34 posted...
Maybe you should update your eyeglasses prescription so you can actually read what you quote.

I mean, I posted a bunch of groups that made the world a better place, then you said "No SJW makes the world a better place".

You tell me what conclusion I'm supposed to draw from that, because apparently your original attempt wasn't very clear.
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Kyuubi4269
09/28/18 5:12:17 AM
#181:


darkknight109 posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Maybe you should update your eyeglasses prescription so you can actually read what you quote.

I mean, I posted a bunch of groups that made the world a better place, then you said "No SJW makes the world a better place".

You tell me what conclusion I'm supposed to draw from that, because apparently your original attempt wasn't very clear.

They aren't SJW groups because they improved the world. (though suffragettes arguably did not).
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darkknight109
09/28/18 5:16:10 AM
#182:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
They aren't SJW groups because they improved the world.

Ah, I get it. You think "SJW" means "Someone I don't like".

Gotcha.
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Kyuubi4269
09/28/18 5:18:05 AM
#183:


darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
They aren't SJW groups because they improved the world.

Ah, I get it. You think "SJW" means "Someone I don't like".

Gotcha.

Nah, SJWs fight for "justice" to the detriment of as many people as possible.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 5:21:31 AM
#184:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Nah, SJWs fight for "justice" to the detriment of as many people as possible.

darkknight109 posted...
It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.

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Kyuubi4269
09/28/18 5:38:55 AM
#185:


darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Nah, SJWs fight for "justice" to the detriment of as many people as possible.

darkknight109 posted...
It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.

Fucking read.
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KrissVector
09/28/18 10:42:54 AM
#186:


So what's your number? 17 is too high, but 7 is too low. Can a 16 year old consent? A 10 year old?

The law is pretty clear on who it does and does not consider legally capable of giving consent, but I'm interested in hearing where your personal line is.


My point has already been proven. I am not playing your game of "gotchya!"

You do not care about consent, and we will leave it at that.
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Jen0125
09/28/18 10:47:24 AM
#187:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
(though suffragettes arguably did not).


Lmao
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GanglyKhan
09/28/18 10:57:28 AM
#188:


GreenKnight127 posted...
There isn't a single person here who thinks convicted rapists shouldn't face the full extent of the law and rot in prison for years/decades/life.

That's where you're wrong. Tossing someone in prison isn't going to solve the base issue. Rehabilitating and working on bettering these people helps. Yes, a fair amount of inmates will never change, but that doesn't mean we should just toss them into a cell and forget about them. They're people too.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 12:05:06 PM
#189:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Nah, SJWs fight for "justice" to the detriment of as many people as possible.

darkknight109 posted...
It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.

Fucking read.

It's called a different opinion, bro.
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Kyuubi4269
09/28/18 12:27:39 PM
#190:


Jen0125 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
(though suffragettes arguably did not).


Lmao

https://www.bl.uk/votes-for-women/articles/suffragettes-violence-and-militancy

darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Nah, SJWs fight for "justice" to the detriment of as many people as possible.

darkknight109 posted...
It's funny, because people said the same thing about the gay rights movement. And the civil rights movement before it. And the suffragettes before that. And it seemed to work out alright for those groups and society is in a better place for it.

Fucking read.

It's called a different opinion, bro.

No, it called you willingly misinterpreting what other people say.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 12:43:48 PM
#191:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
No, it called you willingly misinterpreting what other people say.

In what way did I misinterpret you? You said SJWs fight to the detriment of society; I said people said the same thing about those other groups and we're all in a better place thanks to their efforts.
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Kyuubi4269
09/28/18 12:51:07 PM
#192:


darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
No, it called you willingly misinterpreting what other people say.

In what way did I misinterpret you? You said SJWs fight to the detriment of society; I said people said the same thing about those other groups and we're all in a better place thanks to their efforts.

You're interpreting SJWs to cover those doing valued work, which was specifically noted as not what an SJW does.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 1:24:39 PM
#193:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
You're interpreting SJWs to cover those doing valued work, which was specifically noted as not what an SJW does.

darkknight109 posted...
It's called a different opinion, bro.

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kangolcone
09/28/18 1:30:10 PM
#194:


rexcrk posted...
All this stuff... this is why Im becoming more and more wary about even getting involved with women.


Dont pin them down and muffle their screams without consent. Dont pull your junk out in front of them and start jerkin it. Dont commit sexual assault and you got nothing to worry about.
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Jen0125
09/28/18 1:30:27 PM
#195:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
https://www.bl.uk/votes-for-women/articles/suffragettes-violence-and-militancy


so what? that doesn't mean they didn't improve the world.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 3:42:44 PM
#196:


Jen0125 posted...
so what? that doesn't mean they didn't improve the world.

Exactly.

I mean, most rights movements have shades of this because nothing seems to get done if they don't. Martin Luther King Jr. found out pretty quick that protesting in cities that were already sympathetic to his cause didn't do much, so he deliberately targeted deep south states where he knew he would meet violent resistance; he did and the resultant headlines went a long way towards convincing undecided and/or uninterested voters of the importance of his cause. He knew that violence catches headlines and so, even though he didn't attack anyone, he made his best attempt to make sure it happened and make sure the reporters were there to capture it.

Similarly, one of the most seminal moments in the gay rights movement in the US was the Stonewall Riots, where a police raid on a gay bar resulted in a massive anti-police melee, including several follow-up protests over the next few days; where previous attempts at peacefully advancing gay rights had received limited traction, this kick-started the movement in earnest.

Nelson Mandela was a member of a terrorist organization fighting against apartheid. Gandhi deliberately provoked tensions with the British in advocating for Indian independence. The examples are endless.

While the use of violence is something that should be avoided where possible, it is not immediately disqualifying to the notion of making the world a better place.
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Revelation34
09/28/18 3:46:06 PM
#197:


darkknight109 posted...
I mean, I posted a bunch of groups that made the world a better place, then you said "No SJW makes the world a better place".

You tell me what conclusion I'm supposed to draw from that, because apparently your original attempt wasn't very clear.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77020198/909534655 Here's the post you quoted, Stevie.
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darkknight109
09/28/18 4:12:15 PM
#198:


Revelation34 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
I mean, I posted a bunch of groups that made the world a better place, then you said "No SJW makes the world a better place".

You tell me what conclusion I'm supposed to draw from that, because apparently your original attempt wasn't very clear.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77020198/909534655 Here's the post you quoted, Stevie.

No, Philippe, here's the post I quoted:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77020198/909559485

Seriously, I didn't even alter any of the text.
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Revelation34
09/28/18 4:19:13 PM
#199:


darkknight109 posted...
No, Philippe, here's the post I quoted:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/77020198/909559485

Seriously, I didn't even alter any of the text.


Oh. I get it now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA" data-time="

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The_tall_midget
09/28/18 5:34:18 PM
#200:


The process continues and the lying bitch was rightfully called out for having no credibility.

Let the sjw's and feminists weep. Let them bask in their impotence!
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