Poll of the Day > Making sexual harassment claims that are over 30 years old.
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Revelation34 09/30/18 2:03:24 PM #251: |
Mead posted...
Thats silly Nope. Humans are selfish and only care about what they want themselves or for people they know. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Brocknoth 09/30/18 4:45:28 PM #252: |
darkknight109 posted...
So he's basically saying rape is OK, as long as you don't get caught for a few years afterwards. I'm just trying to figure out how many he thinks is a good number. Actually I'm not. Hell I said it in my opening post that I don't condone sexual misconduct against either sex. And she was "assaulted" not "raped" so your comment doesn't even matter. Look my point is it doesn't take a genius to figure out that this is a smear campaign. And what I meant by "it happened so ago it doesn't matter" is that there isn't any substantial evidence to support the claim. Even if there was should Brett be held responsible for something he did as a stupid teenager over 30-35 years ago? Crazy s*** happens at parties. People get drunk and do stupid things. They make mistakes. I'm not saying it's ok by ANY means but these mistakes shouldn't haunt a person for the rest of their life. Varying on severity and intent. If this had been a "weekly" thing and he was jumping from party to party abusing girls left and right that would be largely different. The entire thing is just ridiculous. Those of you supporting this witch hunt just make me smh --- "You don't scare me. I play Touhou." ~ http://www.backloggery.com/brocknoth ~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/30/18 4:48:45 PM #253: |
Revelation34 posted...
Mead posted...Thats silly Its impossible for you to be wrong --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 09/30/18 5:33:04 PM #254: |
Brocknoth posted...
Even if there was should Brett be held responsible for something he did as a stupid teenager over 30-35 years ago? Crazy s*** happens at parties. People get drunk and do stupid things. They make mistakes. Dude, "attempted rape" is not some wacky teenage hijinx that deserves to fade into the mists of time; that's a felony and a pretty serious one at that. Brocknoth posted... I'm not saying it's ok by ANY means but these mistakes shouldn't haunt a person for the rest of their life. It doesn't appear to have haunted Kavanaugh at all up until this point, because he's never faced any consequences for it (assuming the accusations are valid). And while it's debatable whether something from one's teenage years should "haunt a person for life", I don't think disqualifying them from some of society's most powerful positions is a disproportionate punishment. How many jobs are you locked out of if you get a criminal record that includes a felony? And why shouldn't "Supreme Court Justice" be on that list? If a person was convicted of child porn offences 40 years ago and has had a spotless record since, no responsible daycare centre would hire them today despite the passage of time, so why doesn't that logic apply here? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_AdjI_ 09/30/18 6:06:34 PM #255: |
Brocknoth posted...
I'm not saying it's ok by ANY means but these mistakes shouldn't haunt a person for the rest of their life. That's a position that can potentially be applied to any crime, but I feel that it's very important to make a distinction between not having something haunt you forever and never having to take responsibility for it. Anyone who assaults anyone else should face the consequences for doing so. Ideally, that'll happen immediately, but if it doesn't, it's fair game to apply those consequences later, even if that will jeopardize their career (especially so in the case of somebody as influential as a supreme court judge). That's also not to say the only way to take responsibility for a crime is to go to jail for it. If somebody who committed an assault then proceeded to support the victim through the recovery process, or otherwise right the wrong and earn forgiveness, pressing charges and seeking jail time years after that sequence of events would be unreasonable. But you have to do something. Nobody should expect to be forgiven for a crime unless they've genuinely worked to earn that forgiveness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 09/30/18 6:59:27 PM #256: |
You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior.
People on here who are justifying the smear against Kavanaugh as "Well it's the Supreme Court! Do YOU want a rapist on the Supreme Court?" you are throwing down a smoke bomb to hide the real issue. Of course no one wants a fucking rapist on the Supreme Court! But isn't it important to know that they are, in fact, a confirmed rapist BEFORE dragging their face through the mud??? Or am I the only person here who didn't take his crazy pills this morning? What kind of pathetic sheep believe an allegation right out of the gate? Oh? Because the #MeToo movement magically brainwashed the entire fucking country into being FORCED to believe (out of fear of looking sexist) any and all allegations women make against men? Regardless of evidence? Regardless of criminal charges? Regardless of anything other than her word against his? Sorry. In any rational society, that shit simply cannot fly. Brand me a sexist jerk. I don't care. Whatever helps your deluded mind process the logic. If I'm somehow wrong for believing in "innocent until proven guilty"...I guess I'm just un-American. But, sadly, that's where we are now. This whole thing has put his character on trial, which causes voter doubt....which could ultimately cost him the seat. Justifying it with "well, that's democracy" isn't good enough. It was an active attack against him. You could do that to ANYONE by paying off the right people. Smear someone for the sake of smearing them. With zero proof. It's just easy for some of you to let it all slide, because you know it's a situation you will never find yourself in. And no, it has nothing to do with you never making mistakes. It has everything to do with you just being a low-profile peasant human who will never be in the public eye and make enemies in high places. Run for Supreme Court. Watch what happens. Skeletons you didn't even know existed will come out of the closet to haunt you. That facebook post you made in 2006? You forgot about it, didn't you? Don't worry. The entire staff at the Huffington Post who was hired to specifically dig through all your online records found it. And they loved it. Sending it to CNN now. Gunna make damn sure to take it out of context. Oh? You didn't even make a Facebook post at all in 2006? Doesn't matter. Someone made one for you. Now you need to prove to the country that you DIDN'T make it. Have fun! Be careful not to get too emotional or defensive.....because then people will think you look even MORE guilty! lol --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/30/18 7:01:24 PM #257: |
His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge
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GreenKnight127 09/30/18 7:05:54 PM #258: |
Mead posted...
His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge All I heard was: "It's okay to stab an innocent man in the chest. We have gauze. Besides, he knew what he was getting into by being a Supreme Court nominee." The way people justify cruelty. Boggles my fucking mind. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/30/18 7:10:09 PM #259: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
Mead posted...His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge It isnt cruel to see if a claim is accurate during a job interview --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 09/30/18 7:28:49 PM #260: |
Mead posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...Mead posted...His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge Spoken like a true apathetic humanoid. Of course it's cruel. Just because it's not you. It's insulting to believe any claim is true just because a woman says it is, 35 years later, conveniently around the time he's up for the Supreme Court, when everyone knows the Dems want that fucking seat like it's made out of candy, in the era of #MeToo where hating on our current President is all "edgy" as fuck and encouraged by 99% of the media. Yeah. Not buying it. Nothing justifies what has happened to Kavanaugh. The only rationality some morons can even attempt to use is: "Hurr duuurr....*wipes snot from nose*....hurr....b-but what if he really is a gang rapist!?!" Sheeple mindset. Sheeple. What if your dad molested you as a child and you just blocked it out? *mind blown* --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 09/30/18 7:39:45 PM #261: |
if they want to investigate claims from something 30 years ago then they should also investigate claims from about 20 years ago about bill clinton
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Brocknoth 09/30/18 7:50:37 PM #262: |
_AdjI_ posted...
Nobody should expect to be forgiven for a crime unless they've genuinely worked to earn that forgiveness. That's my entire point. If we look at her testimony nothing actually happened to her. She was in a room with 2 boys, everybody was drunk, one of the boys started getting handsy and she managed to get away and lock herself in the bathroom. Did she deserve to have this happen? No. Was it wrong of Brett to have possibly done this? Yes. But this is not the behavior of a serial rapist. This is the behavior of a drunken teenager at the height of their hormonal youth. A drunken teen who once they sober up would realize what they did and hopefully feel remorse, seek out the affected party, and apologize for their behavior. This is not something that merits jail time. If Ford had ended up battered, bruised, and abused that would be a different story but that's not what happened. Again this is not a mistake that should haunt this man forever. (if it happened) darkknight109 posted... If a person was convicted of child porn offences 40 years ago and has had a spotless record since, no responsible daycare centre would hire them today despite the passage of time, so why doesn't that logic apply here? Because it's not the same thing. Stop moving the goalposts. An "attempted assault" (again no substantial evidence to support the claim) ways FAR less then someone who was tried, convicted, and found guilty of being a pedophile. Again intent and severity. Petty theft? (candy, small items) No. Serial murder? Yes. Use common sense. --- "You don't scare me. I play Touhou." ~ http://www.backloggery.com/brocknoth ~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 09/30/18 8:24:06 PM #263: |
Was what he did a terrible thing? Yes
Should that terrible thing if true be at all considered? Of course not! --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 09/30/18 10:14:44 PM #264: |
Mead posted...
Was what he did a terrible thing? Yes That thing that wasn't proven he has done and only exists in the mind of feminist/sjws (aka: lunatics)? --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/01/18 3:16:12 AM #265: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior. GreenKnight127 posted... Mead posted...His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge So, if not being able to join the Supreme Court is having one's career ruined, please explain to me what Merrick Garland did to have his career ruined? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/01/18 3:21:06 AM #266: |
The_tall_midget posted...
Mead posted...Was what he did a terrible thing? Yes I forgot that things are only looked into if its already been proven what happened Oh wait that makes no sense at all --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 10/01/18 3:35:50 AM #267: |
Mead posted...
The_tall_midget posted...Mead posted...Was what he did a terrible thing? Yes so to you "looked into" = guilty. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil69Leo 10/01/18 3:40:46 AM #268: |
streamofthesky posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior. Woah now don't use too much logic with idiots it might kill them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/01/18 3:45:59 AM #269: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior. Which is exactly what the FBI are now looking for. If they don't find one, it's extremely likely that Kavanaugh will wind up on the Supreme Court. That doesn't sound like anything even close to a ruined career to me. GreenKnight127 posted... Of course no one wants a fucking rapist on the Supreme Court! But isn't it important to know that they are, in fact, a confirmed rapist BEFORE dragging their face through the mud??? Or am I the only person here who didn't take his crazy pills this morning? What kind of pathetic sheep believe an allegation right out of the gate? Dude, this has been explained to you before. It's not a matter of "believing" or "not believing", because those terms mean nothing in this context. The possibility is open that those allegations are true. It's also possible that they're not. I don't know which of those is accurate and, contrary to your ranting, neither do you. That's exactly why the FBI should be investigating this. What you're suggesting is akin to someone going in their friend's basement, finding a large pool of blood, and thinking "Hmm, well, that looks kind of suspicious, but he hasn't been convicted of any murders that I'm aware of, so I guess I'll just ignore it and hope he's innocent..." GreenKnight127 posted... It was an active attack against him. You could do that to ANYONE by paying off the right people. Smear someone for the sake of smearing them. With zero proof. This paragraph is so incredibly un-self-aware it's quietly hilarious. "Don't accuse someone with zero proof!" he screams, while accusing Kavanaugh's accusers of lying with zero proof. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/01/18 3:46:02 AM #270: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
No. It has everything to do with you just being a low-profile peasant human who will never be in the public eye and make enemies in high places. Run for Supreme Court. Watch what happens. Skeletons you didn't even know existed will come out of the closet to haunt you. No thanks, doesn't appeal to me, plus I'm not in legal. That said, if I ever do apply for a high profile job (whether that's running for political office, seeking membership on the board of directors for a high profile company, or something else that would similarly put me in the public spotlight), I will acknowledge and accept that my background will be gone over with a fine tooth comb, because that's exactly how it should be. If someone is being granted a high level of power, I want to know that they are trustworthy, above and beyond what I would expect from an average person, so I fully expect to be subjected to the exact same scrutiny (and if the thought of that scrutiny ever proves disquieting, for any reason, I would avoid those high profile jobs in the first place). GreenKnight127 posted... Oh? You didn't even make a Facebook post at all in 2006? Doesn't matter. Someone made one for you. Now you need to prove to the country that you DIDN'T make it. Have fun! That's pretty straightforward - Facebook wasn't even public until the end of that year, and I've never had a Facebook profile my entire life (which all my friends and acquaintances - some of whom have pestered me for years to abandon my "Luddite ways" would be happy to attest to). I wouldn't need to get emotional or defensive, because it would be easily disproven and any accuser who falsely attributed such things to me would be quickly proven a liar. GreenKnight127 posted... Sheeple mindset. You know, I appreciate you using this word unironically in your post, because it tells me exactly how seriously I should take it. Brocknoth posted... An "attempted assault" (again no substantial evidence to support the claim) ways FAR less then someone who was tried, convicted, and found guilty of being a pedophile. Again intent and severity. Petty theft? (candy, small items) No. Serial murder? Yes. Use common sense. Attempted rape seems pretty bad to me, man. You never answered my question, though - how long ago does an attempted rape have to have happened for it to be A-OK in your books? Krazy_Kirby posted... so to you "looked into" = guilty. Has anyone in this topic even said anything that even remotely sounds like this? Because I sure don't see it. In fact, I've seen several people say the exact opposite of this. Seems pretty flimsy, even for a Strawman argument. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 10/01/18 6:22:18 AM #271: |
streamofthesky posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior. I'm sorry. I missed the part where Merrick Garland was accused of being a gang rapist in front of the entire world. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASlaveObeys 10/01/18 9:17:38 AM #272: |
I'm just saying I don't care when he did it, if someone who is going to have that much power has raped anyone I'd rather them not have a ton of power.
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GreenKnight127 10/01/18 4:17:21 PM #273: |
ASlaveObeys posted...
I'm just saying I don't care when he did it, if someone who is going to have that much power has raped anyone I'd rather them not have a ton of power. It would help to know for a fact they are an actual rapist before holding them back from that position of power though. But that's just me thinking out loud. You know, being rational. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt. Seeing someone as innocent until proven guilty. I know, I know....it's not a very common way of thinking these days. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/01/18 4:41:53 PM #274: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
ASlaveObeys posted...I'm just saying I don't care when he did it, if someone who is going to have that much power has raped anyone I'd rather them not have a ton of power. Nothing should ever be investigated because what if theyre innocent --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 10/01/18 5:17:31 PM #275: |
Mead posted...
Nothing should ever be investigated because what if theyre innocent You don't accuse someone of being a gang rapist and then sit back with a shit-eating grin on your face and tell them to prove they aren't. C'mon, Mead. You are better than this. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/01/18 5:23:35 PM #276: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
It would help to know for a fact they are an actual rapist before holding them back from that position of power though. Isn't that exactly what's going on, though? Kavanaugh hasn't been told he's not getting on the Supreme Court; the Senate is now investigating the claims (which should not have taken this much theatrics to get them to do, given that that's literally their fucking job) and if nothing comes of it, he'll almost assuredly wind up there within the week. GreenKnight127 posted... Seeing someone as innocent until proven guilty. How come this logic doesn't apply to Kavanaugh's accusers, who you've said multiple times in this topic are guilty of perjuring themselves? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/01/18 5:28:44 PM #277: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
streamofthesky posted...GreenKnight127 posted...You shouldn't be able to have a career ruined over allegations. There needs to be evidence. A paper trail. An actual crime processed by authorities. A conviction. A pattern of behavior. He wasn't, and yet he never even got as far along in the process as Kavanaugh has. Way to completely miss the point. Where was your outrage in 2016? At least if Garland had grape allegations against him, it'd be understandable to not give him a confirmation hearing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Brocknoth 10/01/18 6:43:16 PM #278: |
darkknight109 posted...
Attempted rape seems pretty bad to me, man. Bleh I'm done responding to you after this post. I've already explained my position it's not my fault you don't understand it. --- "You don't scare me. I play Touhou." ~ http://www.backloggery.com/brocknoth ~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/01/18 7:15:48 PM #279: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
Mead posted...Nothing should ever be investigated because what if theyre innocent That isnt what is being investigated --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/01/18 7:29:30 PM #280: |
As I've stated previously, I highly doubt that Brett Kavanaugh is telling the truth. He has demonstrably lied before.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/brett-kavanaugh-lies-senate-testimony-supreme-court.html He does not deserve to sit in the highest court of the land. --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/01/18 7:35:01 PM #281: |
Maybe he is telling the truth. This has shined a light on the kind of person he is though.
Dude went to a fucking high school with an actual golf course on the campus. Do we really want someone like that on the highest court of the land deciding things for regular Americans? The guy has no idea what their lives are actually like. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/01/18 7:38:04 PM #282: |
GreenKnight127 posted...
Mead posted...His career isnt ruined if he isnt made a Supreme Court judge You are extremely hyperbolic in how you interpret other people's sentences. --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/02/18 10:18:44 AM #283: |
Mead posted...
Maybe he is telling the truth. This has shined a light on the kind of person he is though. Hurray for classism. And I'm sure he's totally the only judge/politician with a privileged upbringing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/02/18 11:24:28 AM #284: |
Mead posted...
Dude went to a fucking high school with an actual golf course on the campus. Do we really want someone like that on the highest court of the land deciding things for regular Americans? The guy has no idea what their lives are actually like.  --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrndNhbrHdCEman 10/02/18 11:54:57 PM #285: |
Brocknoth posted...
darkknight109 posted...Attempted rape seems pretty bad to me, man. or he understands you don't give a shit about rape victims or a narrow scope of people's feelings. It's all about party lines and pretending there's an expiration date on others feelings. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/03/18 1:05:48 AM #286: |
FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
or he understands you don't give a shit about rape victims or a narrow scope of people's feelings. It's all about party lines and pretending there's an expiration date on others feelings. Alleged* --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/03/18 2:49:05 AM #287: |
Revelation34 posted...
Alleged* darkknight109 posted... Buddy wasn't talking about "alleged" anything - he said "if he did it" it doesn't matter anyways, because it was too long ago. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/03/18 2:54:00 AM #288: |
Revelation34 posted...
Alleged* --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/03/18 3:06:20 AM #289: |
Revelation34 posted...
Revelation34 posted...Alleged* darkknight109 posted... darkknight109 posted...Buddy wasn't talking about "alleged" anything - he said "if he did it" it doesn't matter anyways, because it was too long ago. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/03/18 3:09:00 AM #290: |
So, anyway... John Oliver has damn near 30 min on the hearing from his most recent show, and it's actually pretty good.
Kavanaugh seems to have a serious drinking problem. And he may be a a low key sociopath. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/03/18 3:11:18 AM #291: |
streamofthesky posted...
So, anyway... John Oliver has damn near 30 min on the hearing from his most recent show, and it's actually pretty good. Yet it must be him and not any other republican on the court according to so many conservatives Im sure the fact that he is unique among judges in thinking that acting US presidents should not be able to be investigated for any crimes has nothing at all to do with it --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/03/18 3:21:12 AM #292: |
Mead posted...
streamofthesky posted...So, anyway... John Oliver has damn near 30 min on the hearing from his most recent show, and it's actually pretty good. I'm also sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it'd be really tough at this point to nominate a new SC justice and ram through the confirmation hearing before the voters get a chance to let their will be known. How many more days before the election is Congress even in session? Don't they usually have recesses close to elections? Tick tock... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/03/18 3:47:30 AM #293: |
streamofthesky posted...
I'm also sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it'd be really tough at this point to nominate a new SC justice and ram through the confirmation hearing before the voters get a chance to let their will be known. The irony is if Kavanaugh's nomination was pulled right now, there's actually enough time to confirm a new judge in the lame duck session of Congress. Yes, the elections are less than 40 days away, but the newly elected senate doesn't sit until the New Year. The senate would have about 100 days to vet and confirm a new nominee, which would almost certainly be sufficient. The fact that Republicans are sticking to their guns on this actually makes their job more difficult if Kavanaugh's nomination falls through. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/03/18 10:59:24 AM #294: |
darkknight109 posted...
streamofthesky posted...I'm also sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it'd be really tough at this point to nominate a new SC justice and ram through the confirmation hearing before the voters get a chance to let their will be known. Some might call that integrity but there's no room for integrity in politics so I doubt it's that. But the guy appears to be innocent at this point so why should they not stick with him? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 10/03/18 11:00:33 AM #295: |
Mead posted...
Im sure the fact that he is unique among judges in thinking that acting US presidents should not be able to be investigated for any crimes has nothing at all to do with it Oh yeah... I havent hsrd anything about the Russia investigation lately. How is that going? Trump still not convicted? Awww shucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 10/03/18 12:09:59 PM #296: |
OhhhJa posted...
But the guy appears to be innocent at this point so why should they not stick with him? That's a stretch. Based on the facts, I'd say his accusers are looking more credible than he is at the moment; if I had to choose one, at this point I would vote against him (and that's not even touching the issues of whether he perjured himself during his testimony or the more subjective issue of whether or not the more partisan elements of his ranting - particularly his comment "what goes around comes around" - should disqualify him from the position). We'll see what the FBI investigation turns up, though. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/03/18 2:20:13 PM #297: |
darkknight109 posted...
Based on the facts, I'd say his accusers are looking more credible than he is at the moment  --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 10/03/18 3:32:41 PM #298: |
darkknight109 posted...
We'll see what the FBI investigation turns up, though. That won't change your opinion, darkknight109. LOL --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 10/03/18 3:33:29 PM #299: |
darkknight109 posted...
streamofthesky posted...I'm also sure it has nothing to do with the fact that it'd be really tough at this point to nominate a new SC justice and ram through the confirmation hearing before the voters get a chance to let their will be known. I realize they have a lame duck session, and Mitch McConnell is such a void of integrity and wellspring of hypocrisy that he WOULD try and ram through a nomination during said session even if the voters had just kicked Republicans out of power in both houses of Congress despite never even giving Garland a hearing for 11 fucking months so the "will of the voters" could be heard. But I'm at least a little hopeful if it reached into the lame duck session and the blue wave did happen, that at least a couple Republicans might have some basic shred of decency. Barring that, Democrats should try and do every dirty trick (let's call them "Mitch McConnell-isms") to prevent the vote from happening till the new Congress is seated. How many Senators are needed to be there for there to be quorum? Maybe they just don't show up... Whatever it takes. If McConnell still tries to force a vote before the new Congress even after an election night drubbing, it should be treated as an act of political war. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 10/03/18 3:40:32 PM #300: |
 --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" *facepalm* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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