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Cilolntro 09/19/18 11:59:46 PM #1:	Do you support abortion? - Results (7 votes) Yes 71.43% (5 votes) 5 No 28.57% (2 votes) 2 If you look at the science, consciousness begins when a brain is formed. Because of this, it would be reasonable to look at banning abortion in the 3rd trimester but even then there are counterarguments. The capacity for a fetus with a barely aware brain to feel suffering is likely minimal. Farm animal are far more self aware and capable of suffering, yet pro-lifers have no problem with the brutal ways in which they are slaughtered. At the end of the day, people only oppose abortion because they believe in magic. They believe there is some sort of magical ghost inhabiting every one of us. To the rational person, that is absurd, and it is concerning that it impacts public policy. If you look at evidence, abortion is not a controversial issue. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909093605] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote> Do you support abortion? - Results (7 votes) Yes 71.43% (5 votes) 5 No 28.57% (2 votes) 2 If you look at the science, consciousness begins when a brain is formed. Because of this, it would be reasonable to look at banning abortion in the 3rd trimester but even then there are counterarguments. The capacity for a fetus with a barely aware brain to feel suffering is likely minimal. Farm animal are far more self aware and capable of suffering, yet pro-lifers have no problem with the brutal ways in which they are slaughtered. At the end of the day, people only oppose abortion because they believe in magic. They believe there is some sort of magical ghost inhabiting every one of us. To the rational person, that is absurd, and it is concerning that it impacts public policy. If you look at evidence, abortion is not a controversial issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/20/18 12:00:16 AM #2:	Some posters here give enough reason to support abortion as is. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:909093632] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Some posters here give enough reason to support abortion as is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:00:36 AM #3:	Because killing humans is wrong. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909093653] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:00:58 AM #4:	dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909093671] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 09/20/18 12:01:04 AM #5:	I support abortion but I get why pro-life people feel the way they do even though I disagree --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:909093675] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>I support abortion but I get why pro-life people feel the way they do even though I disagree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Acceleration 09/20/18 12:02:35 AM #6:	Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child. <cite>Acceleration posted [p:909093763] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:03:01 AM #7:	Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. How is it not a human being. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909093786] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> How is it not a human being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/20/18 12:04:21 AM #8:	What are your thoughts on people who are brain dead? What about someone who is currently brain dead, but won't be in nine months? <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:909093836] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>What are your thoughts on people who are brain dead? What about someone who is currently brain dead, but won't be in nine months?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:04:40 AM #9:	Acceleration posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child. Prove it (you can't). There is no consciousness before a brain develops. That is a biological, indisputable fact. A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909093848] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Acceleration posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child.</quote> Prove it (you can't). There is no consciousness before a brain develops. That is a biological, indisputable fact. A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:04:56 AM #10:	Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909093858] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amesoeurs 09/20/18 12:05:07 AM #11:	Cilolntro posted... They believe there is some sort of magical ghost inhabiting every one of us. To the rational person, that is absurd tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip <cite>Amesoeurs posted [p:909093870] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote> They believe there is some sort of magical ghost inhabiting every one of us. To the rational person, that is absurd</quote> tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:05:09 AM #12:	Cilolntro posted... Acceleration posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child. Prove it (you can't). There is no consciousness before a brain develops. That is a biological, indisputable fact. A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain. When did I say they are conscious. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909093873] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Acceleration posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> It is. I am not against abortion, but it is the murder of a child.</quote> Prove it (you can't). There is no consciousness before a brain develops. That is a biological, indisputable fact. A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain.</quote> When did I say they are conscious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amesoeurs 09/20/18 12:05:50 AM #13:	Cilolntro posted... A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations <cite>Amesoeurs posted [p:909093909] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person.</quote> here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/20/18 12:06:05 AM #14:	DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. Your existence gives support to why we need abortions. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:909093920] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> Your existence gives support to why we need abortions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:06:28 AM #15:	Amesoeurs posted... Cilolntro posted... A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations You are literally arguing that consciousness can exist without a brain. Did you skip middle school health class or something? That is beyond absurd. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909093943] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amesoeurs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person.</quote> here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations</quote> You are literally arguing that consciousness can exist without a brain. Did you skip middle school health class or something? That is beyond absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:06:41 AM #16:	Cilolntro posted... If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain. It's not a person; it's a part of a person that has now been detached from them. It doesn't become, well, not that, just because you've cut it off. The difference here is that the person who's being harmed - yourself - in this situation, consented to the harm (or at least, that's implied by the fact that you cut it off yourself). --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909093956] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote> If I chop off my arm, that doesn't make it its own person. It would need a fully-developed brain.</quote> It's not a person; it's a part of a person that has now been detached from them. It doesn't become, well, not that, just because you've cut it off. The difference here is that the person who's being harmed - yourself - in this situation, consented to the harm (or at least, that's implied by the fact that you cut it off yourself).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:07:24 AM #17:	Cilolntro posted... Amesoeurs posted... Cilolntro posted... A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person. here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations You are literally arguing that consciousness can exist without a brain. Did you skip middle school health class or something? That is beyond absurd. No he isn't, he's arguing that conciousness (especially in a situation of "they haven't gained it yet but will do so if not interrupted" rather than "they've never had it and never will") is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909093989] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amesoeurs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote>A fetus does not have consciousness and is therefore not a person.</quote> here you go again with baseless assumptions and generalisations</quote> You are literally arguing that consciousness can exist without a brain. Did you skip middle school health class or something? That is beyond absurd.</quote> No he isn't, he's arguing that conciousness (especially in a situation of "they haven't gained it yet but will do so if not interrupted" rather than "they've never had it and never will") is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/20/18 12:07:41 AM #18:	Tmaster148 posted... DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. Your existence gives support to why we need abortions. Man you really do have issues wow --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:909094000] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> Your existence gives support to why we need abortions.</quote> Man you really do have issues wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 09/20/18 12:07:54 AM #19:	I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:909094013] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/20/18 12:08:00 AM #20:	BignutzisBack posted... Tmaster148 posted... DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. Your existence gives support to why we need abortions. Man you really do have issues wow I'm not bald, so I got that going for me. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:909094021] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> Your existence gives support to why we need abortions.</quote> Man you really do have issues wow</quote> I'm not bald, so I got that going for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:08:24 AM #21:	Tmaster148 posted... What the fuck. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909094036] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> What the fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/20/18 12:08:59 AM #22:	Poll needs an "indifferent" option. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909094059] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Poll needs an "indifferent" option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 09/20/18 12:09:16 AM #23:	DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. These are some good points. The convenience of abortion is ultimately what drives people to support it, IMO. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:909094070] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> These are some good points. The convenience of abortion is ultimately what drives people to support it, IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:09:20 AM #24:	DarkTransient posted... is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person. False. If I grow some of my cells in a petri dish, that does not make it a person. Until it has a functioning brain and individual consciousness, it is nothing more than a cluster of cells. That is a flat-out biological fact. It isn't even something that can be debated. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909094073] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person.</quote> False. If I grow some of my cells in a petri dish, that does not make it a person. Until it has a functioning brain and individual consciousness, it is nothing more than a cluster of cells. That is a flat-out biological fact. It isn't even something that can be debated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/20/18 12:09:25 AM #25:	Tmaster148 posted... BignutzisBack posted... Tmaster148 posted... DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. Your existence gives support to why we need abortions. Man you really do have issues wow I'm not bald, so I got that going for me. I'd rather be bald then be a psycho, for real dude it's just a message board and you're telling people they should have never been born. Pretty sad smh --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:909094076] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> Your existence gives support to why we need abortions.</quote> Man you really do have issues wow</quote> I'm not bald, so I got that going for me.</quote> I'd rather be bald then be a psycho, for real dude it's just a message board and you're telling people they should have never been born. Pretty sad smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/20/18 12:09:55 AM #26:	BignutzisBack posted... Tmaster148 posted... BignutzisBack posted... Tmaster148 posted... DarkTransient posted... Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too. Your existence gives support to why we need abortions. Man you really do have issues wow I'm not bald, so I got that going for me. I'd rather be bald then be a psycho, for real dude it's just a message board and you're telling people they should have never been born. Pretty sad smh Putting words in my mouth is not a good look. I never said anything about how he shouldn't have been born. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:909094098] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>Certain disabilities result in the person never truly becoming concious, but it's still not considered acceptable to kill them just because of the lack of it. There is literally no argument to justify killing of unborn babies (other than the pure "mother should be allowed to do what she likes regardless of impact on others" argument, which is little more than "wahhh I'll do what I want!") that cannot equally be applied to certain disabled people too. Given that we'd (rightly) reject it in those cases, we should reject it in this one too.</quote> Your existence gives support to why we need abortions.</quote> Man you really do have issues wow</quote> I'm not bald, so I got that going for me.</quote> I'd rather be bald then be a psycho, for real dude it's just a message board and you're telling people they should have never been born. Pretty sad smh</quote> Putting words in my mouth is not a good look. I never said anything about how he shouldn't have been born.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicKingdom_ 09/20/18 12:10:00 AM #27:	Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. No matter how you look at it, abortion is anti-life. --- @GameFAQs moderators: https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w <cite>EpicKingdom_ posted [p:909094099] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. No matter how you look at it, abortion is anti-life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:10:08 AM #28:	ChainedRedone posted... I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing. Because I refuse to show respect to people who believe in magic and legislate based on their fantasies? <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909094106] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing.</quote> Because I refuse to show respect to people who believe in magic and legislate based on their fantasies?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:10:47 AM #30:	Cilolntro posted... ChainedRedone posted... I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing. Because I refuse to show respect to people who believe in magic and legislate based on their fantasies? You don't legislate shit. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909094139] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% pro-choice but people like the TC are so embarrassing.</quote> Because I refuse to show respect to people who believe in magic and legislate based on their fantasies?</quote> You don't legislate shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:11:24 AM #31:	EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is? <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909094168] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers.</quote> If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:11:36 AM #32:	Cilolntro posted... DarkTransient posted... is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person. False. If I grow some of my cells in a petri dish, that does not make it a person. Until it has a functioning brain and individual consciousness, it is nothing more than a cluster of cells. That is a flat-out biological fact. It isn't even something that can be debated. I mean, my point in that post was "this is what he's saying", not "this is fact" (although it is), so my post was true either way - assuming I didn't interpret his posts wrong. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909094181] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>is not a required trait for them to qualify as a person.</quote> False. If I grow some of my cells in a petri dish, that does not make it a person. Until it has a functioning brain and individual consciousness, it is nothing more than a cluster of cells. That is a flat-out biological fact. It isn't even something that can be debated.</quote> I mean, my point in that post was "this is what he's saying", not "this is fact" (although it is), so my post was true either way - assuming I didn't interpret his posts wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/20/18 12:11:41 AM #33:	I understand it. I just think they're way off base. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:909094185] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>I understand it. I just think they're way off base.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/20/18 12:11:45 AM #34:	dontIoseyourway posted... Tmaster148 posted... What the fuck. No kidding, Wtf for real. That's sad that someone would take it that far --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:909094188] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> What the fuck.</quote> No kidding, Wtf for real. That's sad that someone would take it that far</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/20/18 12:12:00 AM #35:	Cilolntro posted... If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Hold on... I thought I was just killing kittens. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909094202] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote>If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies.</quote> Hold on... I thought I was just killing kittens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicKingdom_ 09/20/18 12:12:28 AM #36:	Cilolntro posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is? Exactly, who said the pill wasn't anti-life either? --- @GameFAQs moderators: https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w <cite>EpicKingdom_ posted [p:909094221] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers.</quote> If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is?</quote> Exactly, who said the pill wasn't anti-life either?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/20/18 12:12:32 AM #37:	Cilolntro posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is? If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:909094222] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers.</quote> If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is?</quote> If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 09/20/18 12:13:03 AM #38:	Too many people as it is. Might as well thin it at our own hands --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:909094254] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Too many people as it is. Might as well thin it at our own hands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cilolntro 09/20/18 12:13:42 AM #39:	NeoShadowhen posted... If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job. I am sick of people like you playing nice and respecting pro-lifers. They are just religious extremists who disregard all scientific facts and want to rule based on a bronze-age novel. <cite>Cilolntro posted [p:909094282] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job.</quote> I am sick of people like you playing nice and respecting pro-lifers. They are just religious extremists who disregard all scientific facts and want to rule based on a bronze-age novel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:14:22 AM #40:	EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is? Exactly, who said the pill wasn't anti-life either? There's a difference between terminating a life, and avoiding one being created in the first place. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909094317] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers.</quote> If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is?</quote> Exactly, who said the pill wasn't anti-life either?</quote> There's a difference between terminating a life, and avoiding one being created in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 12:14:37 AM #42:	BignutzisBack posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Tmaster148 posted... What the fuck. No kidding, Wtf for real. That's sad that someone would take it that far Yeah, some people take this website way too seriously. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909094329] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>BignutzisBack posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> What the fuck.</quote> No kidding, Wtf for real. That's sad that someone would take it that far</quote> Yeah, some people take this website way too seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:15:13 AM #43:	Cilolntro posted... NeoShadowhen posted... If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job. I am sick of people like you playing nice and respecting pro-lifers. They are just religious extremists who disregard all scientific facts and want to rule based on a bronze-age novel. And here we see another pro-choice tactic (actually, liberal tactic really, they use this on a lot of issues): Stereotype their opposition into one small group that can easily be dismissed as "crazy" (generally because those who actually fit the stereotype really do qualify as crazy) and avoid the reality that there are a huge variety of people who disagree with them (which is where the actual issue is - they're not wrong that their stereotype is crazy, they're wrong that everyone who disagrees with them fits it). Just to give one example, I'm pretty much as non-religious as they come, and yet here I am on the anti-abortion side. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909094360] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job.</quote> I am sick of people like you playing nice and respecting pro-lifers. They are just religious extremists who disregard all scientific facts and want to rule based on a bronze-age novel.</quote> And here we see another pro-choice tactic (actually, liberal tactic really, they use this on a lot of issues): Stereotype their opposition into one small group that can easily be dismissed as "crazy" (generally because those who actually fit the stereotype really do qualify as crazy) and avoid the reality that there are a huge variety of people who disagree with them (which is where the actual issue is - they're not wrong that their stereotype is crazy, they're wrong that everyone who disagrees with them fits it). Just to give one example, I'm pretty much as non-religious as they come, and yet here I am on the anti-abortion side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 09/20/18 12:15:31 AM #44:	Conflict posted... NeoShadowhen posted... Cilolntro posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... Cilolntro posted... dontIoseyourway posted... Because killing humans is wrong. I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is. WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers. If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is? If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job. Really? Because he just aptly demonstrated that pro-lifers have zero understanding about the concept of cause and effect Yikes. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:909094376] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EpicKingdom_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cilolntro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dontIoseyourway posted...</cite> <quote>Because killing humans is wrong.</quote> I agree. Good thing that isn't what abortion is.</quote> WHATEVER MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. The fact remains, if you do not do abortion, a baby will eventually form. Thus, baby killers.</quote> If you have sex, a baby will form. By masturbating, you are killing babies. Thus, baby killers. See how easy that is?</quote> If your intention was to make the pro-choice side look bad, you're doing an excellent job.</quote> Really? Because he just aptly demonstrated that pro-lifers have zero understanding about the concept of cause and effect</quote> Yikes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EpicKingdom_ 09/20/18 12:18:22 AM #46:	Conflict posted... Why do you guys consistently make this topic Trolling purposes. --- @GameFAQs moderators: https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w <cite>EpicKingdom_ posted [p:909094490] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you guys consistently make this topic</quote> Trolling purposes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 12:22:09 AM #47:	Conflict posted... This topic is pointless anyway. Why do you guys consistently make this topic when you know not a damn mind is going to be changed? You'll still have people like @DarkTransient and @Howl saying some incredibly fuckin stupid shit like that it's equivalent to genocide or that anyone who goes through an abortion should receive retroactive punishments. Yeah, it doesn't change any minds... that's why support for it continues to drop lower and lower, right? --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909094657] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>This topic is pointless anyway. Why do you guys consistently make this topic when you know not a damn mind is going to be changed? You'll still have people like @DarkTransient and @Howl saying some incredibly fuckin stupid shit like that it's equivalent to genocide or that anyone who goes through an abortion should receive retroactive punishments.</quote> Yeah, it doesn't change any minds... that's why support for it continues to drop lower and lower, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 09/20/18 12:22:53 AM #48:	DarkTransient posted... that's why support for it continues to drop lower and lower, right? http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ Nope. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:909094690] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>that's why support for it continues to drop lower and lower, right? </quote> http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/20/18 12:26:38 AM #49:	Who actually supports abortion? It's an unfortunate resolution to an unfortunate situation, but sometimes it's the only real viable option. I can't think of anyone who advocates abortion to the point of "you should get an abortion! I'll drive you there now, and we can get smoothies afterwords!" Maybe radical population control loonies, but I don't know any of those. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909094848] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Who actually supports abortion? It's an unfortunate resolution to an unfortunate situation, but sometimes it's the only real viable option. I can't think of anyone who advocates abortion to the point of "you should get an abortion! I'll drive you there now, and we can get smoothies afterwords!" Maybe radical population control loonies, but I don't know any of those.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jaghave 09/20/18 12:28:21 AM #51:	Murdering someone due to inconvience and your gender should be outlawed --- For those who say I'm a gimmick https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/64183623 been going for 6 years strong <cite>Jaghave posted [p:909094926] in I don't un... [t:77021299]...</cite> <quote>Murdering someone due to inconvience and your gender should be outlawed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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