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DarkTransient
09/27/18 4:40:16 PM
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...dead now?

I mean, he's probably the ONE character of the main four they could get away with killing off. They need Kyle for Jew jokes, fans would flip their shit if they killed Cartman, and no one would take it seriously if they tried to kill Kenny...

Guess we'll just find out next week.
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Foppe
09/27/18 4:42:08 PM
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He will live.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/27/18 4:43:36 PM
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Nah
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Space_Man
09/27/18 4:44:03 PM
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Wait what happened?
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DarkTransient
09/27/18 4:44:41 PM
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Space_Man posted...
Wait what happened?


Watch yesterday's episode.

He was shot in a school shooting. He wasn't seen after this, nor was the shooting itself seen onscreen (we only saw his parents getting a phone call and not really caring, then the episode cut to credits).
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MakoReizei
09/27/18 4:46:54 PM
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They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move
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Foppe
09/27/18 4:50:27 PM
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Space_Man posted...
Wait what happened?

The school had daily school shootings for a week and Sharon was the only person reacting.
She over reacted and was worried for what would happen if she got a call about her son being shot.
But since it was the time for her period, she got convinced that it was her hormones going crazy, and it ended with her getting a call that Stan had been shot, which she didnt care about any longer.
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Foppe
09/27/18 4:51:20 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move

What if... Butters shot Stan?
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DarkTransient
09/27/18 4:51:26 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move


It'd be ballsy, but I couldn't see them doing it. Butters fills a useful role. Stan is pretty generic, really, despite being a major character.
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DarkTransient
09/27/18 4:51:50 PM
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Foppe posted...
MakoReizei posted...
They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move

What if... Butters shot Stan?


O_O

Honestly, Butters being the shooter is actually a very real possibility that I hadn't considered yet.
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-Unowninator-
09/27/18 5:01:23 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
fans would flip their shit if they killed Cartman

Are you kidding me? Cartman is annoying and completely unfunny. I wish they would kill him instead of Kenny.
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DarkTransient
09/27/18 5:03:13 PM
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-Unowninator- posted...
DarkTransient posted...
fans would flip their shit if they killed Cartman

Are you kidding me? Cartman is annoying and completely unfunny. I wish they would kill him instead of Kenny.


You, sure, but among the fanbase overall Cartman is still the favorite.
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Zikten
09/27/18 5:04:28 PM
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Cartman is the center of many great episodes.
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Zikten
09/27/18 5:07:10 PM
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it would be interesting if the whole season is dealing with Stan's death.
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_Rinku_
09/27/18 5:07:22 PM
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Some people think Matt and Trey are legitimately trying to get Comedy Central to #cancelsouthpark cause they're sick of making the show. So, yeah, they might seriously kill off main characters.

That said, people have been saying that they're sick of making the show for ages.
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Questionmarktarius
09/27/18 5:08:35 PM
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Foppe posted...
But since it was the time for her period

Didn't Sharon go though menopause like thirty seasons ago?
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-Unowninator-
09/27/18 5:09:51 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
You, sure, but among the fanbase overall Cartman is still the favorite.

https://imgur.com/Lm2U58R
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Zikten
09/27/18 5:11:27 PM
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you don't have to like a character to like them. what I mean is even someone you would hate in real life, can be liked in a fictional show. most people would hate a real life cartman. but he's funny in the show
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_Rinku_
09/27/18 5:14:45 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
_Rinku_ posted...
Some people think Matt and Trey are legitimately trying to get Comedy Central to #cancelsouthpark cause they're sick of making the show. So, yeah, they might seriously kill off main characters.

That said, people have been saying that they're sick of making the show for ages.


They don't have the power to just...quit?

Personally, I'd love to see Trey and Matt work on something new. Their stuff is almost always good.

I think they're technically under contract for a few more seasons, so just quitting might not be an option.

They still put out new stuff. I'm sure they do some work on SP during the off-season, but the bulk of it seems to be done in three months. They have more than enough time to work on other stuff. They probably just like to take it easy; I'm sure they have "never work another day of their life" money.

That said, I'd love to see some new stuff, but in the meantime I can just keep seeing Book of Mormon every time it comes close to where I live.
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-Unowninator-
09/27/18 5:14:53 PM
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Zikten posted...
you don't have to like a character to like them. what I mean is even someone you would hate in real life, can be liked in a fictional show.


You do have a valid point. No arguments there.

most people would hate a real life cartman. but he's funny in the show


I really wish I could agree, but I just find him annoying and unfunny for some reason.
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cjsdowg
09/27/18 5:21:40 PM
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I haven't seen the show is so long and this episode was just so bad . I FF past most of it and missed Stan being killed .
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Zikten
09/27/18 5:22:32 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
and missed Stan being killed .

it wasn't shown. they just talked about him being shot in the final scene. we don't know if he's dead
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-Unowninator-
09/27/18 5:27:27 PM
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Zikten posted...
cjsdowg posted...
and missed Stan being killed .

it wasn't shown. they just talked about him being shot in the final scene. we don't know if he's dead

This. Assuming the season is continuous like before, I'd say that next episode he'll probably just wear a cast.
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lightwarrior78
09/27/18 5:42:34 PM
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Cartman's too essential to the show. No one else can be that level of "real life asshole dialed up past eleven and into the teens" that a show like South Park needs to make topical commentary. It's be like killing off Archie Bunker: most of the reason people watch is to see him proven wrong and get a comeuppance.

On the other hand, going after Stan, a character largely a bland viewer surrogate, seems lazy. Kyle's no better, Kenny wouldn't have impact despite his dying every episode no longer being a bit since before some people watching south Park were born, and Butters would elicit cheers, but maybe go after Wendy.
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Questionmarktarius
09/27/18 5:44:01 PM
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Killing off Craig would have been an epic internet shitstorm.
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GeneralKenobi85
09/27/18 5:59:32 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
-Unowninator- posted...
DarkTransient posted...
fans would flip their shit if they killed Cartman

Are you kidding me? Cartman is annoying and completely unfunny. I wish they would kill him instead of Kenny.


You, sure, but among the fanbase overall Cartman is still the favorite.

I think that's only true of the casual fanbase. I know Randy got really popular and I remember he handily won a character battle that was held on the South Park site. But that was also years ago.
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apolloooo
09/28/18 8:57:10 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Killing off Craig would have been an epic internet shitstorm.

tweek :(
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 3:32:18 PM
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apolloooo posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Killing off Craig would have been an epic internet shitstorm.

tweek :(


I kinda think Tweek would be the only reason people would care very much if Craig was killed.
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Thunder_Armor
09/28/18 3:41:49 PM
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I doubt Stan is permanently dead. It reminds me of *Family Guy spoilers from a few years ago* Brian.

Yes, Stan is often considered the most basic, bland character, but he still has a huge influence on the show's story telling. His relationship with his dad and Kyle are two huge themes on the show. There's also the fact that he's supposed to be based on Trey Parker himself. Taking the show forward with Stan permanently dead wouldn't be easy.

It's possible, but I think his death was supposed to just be a shocking thing to contrast the episode's point about how America is becoming numb to school shootings. And it's not like characters coming back from the dead is anything new to South Park...
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Foppe
09/28/18 3:42:53 PM
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He was shot, they never said that he was dead...
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 3:42:55 PM
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Thunder_Armor posted...
And it's not like characters coming back from the dead is anything new to South Park...


Has anyone who's been confirmed dead, other than Kenny, come back? They've abscribed it to Kenny having superpowers that are explained in-universe, not to it being the standard for their universe. Indeed, all other characters I can think of who died, stayed dead for real.
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creativerealms
09/28/18 3:43:07 PM
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You can survive a gun shot. They said nothing about him being killed.
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creativerealms
09/28/18 3:44:00 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
MakoReizei posted...
They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move


It'd be ballsy, but I couldn't see them doing it. Butters fills a useful role. Stan is pretty generic, really, despite being a major character.

He's the normal one which is fine.
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Thunder_Armor
09/28/18 3:45:59 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
Has anyone who's been confirmed dead, other than Kenny, come back? They've abscribed it to Kenny having superpowers that are explained in-universe, not to it being the standard for their universe. Indeed, all other characters I can think of who died, stayed dead for real.


Well, there was Chef, kinda...

Other than Kenny, a major character anywhere near the level of Stan hasn't died afaik. I see your point but I don't doubt that they could come up with an explanation for bringing Stan back.
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sktgamer_13dude
09/28/18 3:47:38 PM
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Foppe posted...
He was shot, they never said that he was dead...

This.

DarkTransient posted...
Foppe posted...
MakoReizei posted...
They should kill off Butters. Now that would be a ballsy move

What if... Butters shot Stan?


O_O

Honestly, Butters being the shooter is actually a very real possibility that I hadn't considered yet.

Professor Chaos*
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creativerealms
09/28/18 3:49:41 PM
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Butters was armed the whole episode yeah he could have shot Stan.
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Gheb
09/28/18 3:52:37 PM
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Stan is the straight man. That is an essential character in an absurdist comedy like South Park. I can't imagine they'd permanently kill him.
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 3:52:51 PM
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creativerealms posted...
You can survive a gun shot. They said nothing about him being killed.


You can, but you can also die from it. The point is, we don't really know.
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L0Z
09/28/18 3:53:57 PM
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they are trying to cancel southpark so if they kill him off it will work
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Foppe
09/28/18 3:55:03 PM
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L0Z posted...
they are trying to cancel southpark so if they kill him off it will work

#cancelsouthpark is a trick to make you talk about it, which you do.
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TommyG663513
09/28/18 3:56:23 PM
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I would start watching South Park again if every episode stopped being so overly political. They need to go back to episodes like Casabonita. That is still one of my all time favorites.
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 3:59:23 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I would start watching South Park again if every episode stopped being so overly political. They need to go back to episodes like Casabonita. That is still one of my all time favorites.


They toned the political stuff down a bit (though didn't get rid of it) in season 21, after being a bit over-the-top in 19 and 20. It's not completely classic South Park yet, but it's definitely moving back in that direction. As an example, the subplot with Cartman and Token in this latest episode was almost completely classic South Park style, with only the main plot being somewhat political - and even then, it was more about the general apathy than about either side's specific views.
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-Unowninator-
09/28/18 5:25:38 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
I haven't seen the show is so long and this episode was just so bad .

You think THAT's bad? Remember the time I sang "La Cucaracha" for Paul McCartney?


DarkTransient posted...
Thunder_Armor posted...
And it's not like characters coming back from the dead is anything new to South Park...


Has anyone who's been confirmed dead, other than Kenny, come back? They've abscribed it to Kenny having superpowers that are explained in-universe, not to it being the standard for their universe. Indeed, all other characters I can think of who died, stayed dead for real.


Do any of these count? https://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revived_Characters
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 5:53:08 PM
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-Unowninator- posted...
Do any of these count? https://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revived_Characters


Mysterion is just Kenny's alter-ego, and aside from Chef - fair call on that one - I don't think any of the others canonically died? Mind you, it's entirely possible I'm just not remembering correctly.

(EDIT: Actually, Terence and Philip did too now that I think about it. But they were brought back in the same episode (or rather, movie), under somewhat abnormal - even by South Park standards - circumstances...)
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creativerealms
09/28/18 5:56:21 PM
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Even though Chef was revived in the same episode he was killed did Darth Chef ever show up in an episode? I mean it was pretty much reconned in Stick of Truth where He became a Nazi Zombie and killed off again.
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Foppe
09/28/18 5:59:29 PM
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Spielberg and Lucas died in that Free Hat episode as a parody of the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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DarkTransient
09/28/18 6:00:47 PM
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Foppe posted...
Spielberg and Lucas died in that Free Hat episode as a parody of the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark.


Have they appeared again, alive, since?
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