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WastelandCowboy 09/28/18 1:13:29 PM #1:	Hopefully, in 2024, well have a Democratic president, or if were really lucky and they have a fighting chance, a Libertarian or Independant candidate. But I wont cry if this doesnt happen. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909606836] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully, in 2024, well have a Democratic president, or if were really lucky and they have a fighting chance, a Libertarian or Independant candidate. But I wont cry if this doesnt happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 09/28/18 1:15:57 PM #2:	Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents. --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:909607010] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/28/18 1:18:54 PM #3:	Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:909607205] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jramirez23 09/28/18 1:19:25 PM #4:	Why? --- I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the votes, and how. <cite>jramirez23 posted [p:909607234] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/28/18 1:19:55 PM #5:	Well, the US trends towards incumbency and lately the pendulum has swung every 8 years or so. SmokeMassTree posted... Were you surprised he won in 2016? I was surprised. I hadn't even bothered watching the results that night because the media had presented it as a blowout for Hillary. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:909607259] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Well, the US trends towards incumbency and lately the pendulum has swung every 8 years or so. <cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Were you surprised he won in 2016?</quote> I was surprised. I hadn't even bothered watching the results that night because the media had presented it as a blowout for Hillary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/28/18 1:21:52 PM #6:	SmokeMassTree posted... Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents. I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909607382] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents.</quote> I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/28/18 1:24:44 PM #7:	MICHALECOLE posted... Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:909607567] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote</quote> Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 09/28/18 1:27:08 PM #8:	Zeus posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend. Doesnt matter! <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:909607717] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote</quote> Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend.</quote> Doesnt matter!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 09/28/18 1:28:14 PM #9:	WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents. I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote. Do you believe that hatred is going to die off anytime soon? --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:909607803] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents.</quote> I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote.</quote> Do you believe that hatred is going to die off anytime soon?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 09/28/18 1:31:28 PM #10:	I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:909607991] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/28/18 1:34:09 PM #11:	SmokeMassTree posted... WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents. I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote. Do you believe that hatred is going to die off anytime soon? Nope. Probably will only die when they do. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909608150] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote>Were you surprised he won in 2016? Prepare your anus for a decade or two of republican presidents.</quote> I was surprised. Wasnt expecting him to win. But it makes sense now, given the inane hatred republicans had and still have for Obama and Hillary. Fuel to the fire and motivation to vote.</quote> Do you believe that hatred is going to die off anytime soon?</quote> Nope. Probably will only die when they do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 09/28/18 1:36:36 PM #12:	argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:909608293] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andromicus 09/28/18 1:39:26 PM #13:	Trump's a moron but if there economy doesn't collapse by 2020 it'll be called an economic miracle and he'll win again --- PotD's official master braider <cite>Andromicus posted [p:909608476] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote>Trump's a moron but if there economy doesn't collapse by 2020 it'll be called an economic miracle and he'll win again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/28/18 1:39:54 PM #14:	SmokeMassTree posted... argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909608500] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/28/18 1:50:34 PM #15:	WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found. That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909609114] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found.</quote> That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/28/18 2:07:17 PM #16:	OhhhJa posted... WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found. That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was But thats a double edged sword there. If you cant trust online polls or news media, what can you trust? To what extent does the public go to to make sure the information theyre seeking is correct and honest? Surely, not from the original speaker like Trump, because we all know he has a large bias against all news media except from Fox News, who also has a large bias against liberals. If you want an accurate, right down the middle reporting with no bias or agenda influencing the article or report, you might be out of luck because most everyone has a bias of some kind. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909610091] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found.</quote> That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was</quote> But thats a double edged sword there. If you cant trust online polls or news media, what can you trust? To what extent does the public go to to make sure the information theyre seeking is correct and honest? Surely, not from the original speaker like Trump, because we all know he has a large bias against all news media except from Fox News, who also has a large bias against liberals. If you want an accurate, right down the middle reporting with no bias or agenda influencing the article or report, you might be out of luck because most everyone has a bias of some kind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/28/18 2:09:51 PM #17:	Zeus posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend. Omg I want this data to be made public --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909610257] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote>Two of the last three republican presidential victories they lost the popular vote</quote> Doesn't matter because the presidency isn't decided by the popular vote. That's like saying that they lost the vote of everybody named Steve. More importantly, there's the context of "when" the popular vote was lost. GWB didn't get the popular vote in 2000, but he got it in 2004 when he ran for re-election -- which is a more significant note to this trend.</quote> Omg I want this data to be made public</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/28/18 2:09:51 PM #18:	WastelandCowboy posted... OhhhJa posted... WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found. That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was But thats a double edged sword there. If you cant trust online polls or news media, what can you trust? To what extent does the public go to to make sure the information theyre seeking is correct and honest? Surely, not from the original speaker like Trump, because we all know he has a large bias against all news media except from Fox News, who also has a large bias against liberals. If you want an accurate, right down the middle reporting with no bias or agenda influencing the article or report, you might be out of luck because most everyone has a bias of some kind. That's pretty much why I always just wait and see what happens without any expectations. I'll read the news and keep up with events and what not but when it comes to statistics like that involving politics, I dont put much stock in it <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909610259] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found.</quote> That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was</quote> But thats a double edged sword there. If you cant trust online polls or news media, what can you trust? To what extent does the public go to to make sure the information theyre seeking is correct and honest? Surely, not from the original speaker like Trump, because we all know he has a large bias against all news media except from Fox News, who also has a large bias against liberals. If you want an accurate, right down the middle reporting with no bias or agenda influencing the article or report, you might be out of luck because most everyone has a bias of some kind.</quote> That's pretty much why I always just wait and see what happens without any expectations. I'll read the news and keep up with events and what not but when it comes to statistics like that involving politics, I dont put much stock in it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 09/28/18 3:31:33 PM #19:	OhhhJa posted... WastelandCowboy posted... SmokeMassTree posted... argonautweakend posted... I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out. #fakenews Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found. That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was 70, according tp 538. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:909614869] in With the w... [t:77048482]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>argonautweakend posted...</cite> <quote>I dont see trump winning again. Of course, I thought so in 2016, but I still stand by it. He won the last election by a razor thin margin(100K votes in PA, WI, and MI). he basically needed a bunch of swing states and we won most of them by a hair. Since his approval rating isnt so high, and a lot of people who voted for him now dislike him, I dont know where his votes are going to come from to repeat again. though i admit in 2 years something could happen that could make people like him. basically not counting that out.</quote> #fakenews</quote> Depends on what your source is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html Just one random poll I found.</quote> That's the thing. I think approval ratings are about as reliable as the media saying Hillary had a 98% chance or whatever it was</quote> 70, according tp 538.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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